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| The MC has no right to be shocked about his mother sending him away. After treating her like trash. The MC's past being revealed only makes him less likeable. What an ass. Hopefully he'll understand things and becomes a better person by the end of this show. Oh and I have a bad feeling about Taira. I don't think he'll survive the next episode :( |
Sir_Lexa said: The MC has no right to be shocked about his mother sending him away. After treating her like trash. The MC's past being revealed only makes him less likeable. What an ass. Hopefully he'll understand things and becomes a better person by the end of this show. Oh and I have a bad feeling about Taira. I don't think he'll survive the next episode :( Have to agree with that. Guess he should become better by the time this is over. Himiko shouldn't worry about having nobody to go back to IMO. Those girls are not her family members anyway. The giant lizards look awesome haha |
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Red_Keys said: Firstly, he already had food. Second, why would he get away from Himiko after she fell unconscious? We're talking about a guy that didn't kill the insane kid, yet you expect him to run away from a girl that clearly just recently had a bad experience with a guy? Had he left her, someone else might have got to her while she was knocked out and proceeded to rape her. Or worse yet, kill her in her sleep for her chip. The situation may be extreme and desperate, but that is all the more reason why Sakamoto should have had other things on his mind, such as food, or getting the hell away from the crazy bitch that just tried to murder him. That is why I feel the scene is out of place and annoying. It sacrifices character development for panties. It's the kind of immature fan-service gimmick I would expect in an ecchi harem comedy-romance show targeted at 15 year old virgin boys going through puberty. You speak of character development, yet this is somehow not character development? Sakamoto just showed why he's a character to like; he let his urges go ( Something most guys on the island likely wouldn't have done ) and decided to HELP Himiko, probably saved her life since she was already at her breaking point and most likely would have killed herself if she fell victim to another man, and even got her to join him. How is that not character development? And again, you keep saying the scene was targeted at otakus and now 15 year old virgins. Really? Do you REALLY think it's targeted at them and not just, I don't know, MALES? I guess every single guy that goes to strip clubs, watches porn, hires prostitutes/escorts are all just 15 year old virgins/otakus. Let's get real here. If you show that scene to any non otaku/15 year old virgin, like, say, someone that's really into football and has a girlfriend/wife, I guarantee you they'd love it. It's what guys love, except for maybe the minorities like you that has issues with something so trivial. I also assure you that nobody had issues when Angelina Jolie was seen butt naked in the movie 'Wanted'. Infact, the entire movie theatre erupted in cheers. I'd imagine you'd think that scene was cheap and annoying, though. Clearly pandering for all the virgins that watched the movie. Last but not least, we saw in Ep 2 that there is a connection between Sakamoto and Himiko. Your idea of Sakamoto leaving Himiko behind would have completely made that ep ( And the important development between the two ) pointless, since it's painfully obvious the two were meant to be together if the cover of the anime didn't make this obvious already. |
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| Ryouta wanted Himiko's pink pantasu so badly lol But wtf are those giant lizard things. |
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Hikarusuke said: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komodo_dragonRyouta wanted Himiko's pink pantasu so badly lol But wtf are those giant lizard things. |
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| Its good for a main character to have flaws. It was good that he decided not to do anything also. It shows character. |
| Well the finally met for real. I wonder how long it'll take for her to find out who he really is (his BTOOOM! alias). Besides all the human enemies now there's vicious komodo dragons? What's next? |
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| I think i I watched a documentary that komodo dragon's cant be eaten, or at least it tastes like complete shit - so they can't blow them up and use them for food source either I guess. Correct me if I'm wrong though, years since I saw that documentary |
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Yvese said: Red_Keys said: Firstly, he already had food. Second, why would he get away from Himiko after she fell unconscious? We're talking about a guy that didn't kill the insane kid, yet you expect him to run away from a girl that clearly just recently had a bad experience with a guy? Had he left her, someone else might have got to her while she was knocked out and proceeded to rape her. Or worse yet, kill her in her sleep for her chip. The situation may be extreme and desperate, but that is all the more reason why Sakamoto should have had other things on his mind, such as food, or getting the hell away from the crazy bitch that just tried to murder him. That is why I feel the scene is out of place and annoying. It sacrifices character development for panties. It's the kind of immature fan-service gimmick I would expect in an ecchi harem comedy-romance show targeted at 15 year old virgin boys going through puberty. You speak of character development, yet this is somehow not character development? Sakamoto just showed why he's a character to like; he let his urges go ( Something most guys on the island likely wouldn't have done ) and decided to HELP Himiko, probably saved her life since she was already at her breaking point and most likely would have killed herself if she fell victim to another man, and even got her to join him. How is that not character development? And again, you keep saying the scene was targeted at otakus and now 15 year old virgins. Really? Do you REALLY think it's targeted at them and not just, I don't know, MALES? I guess every single guy that goes to strip clubs, watches porn, hires prostitutes/escorts are all just 15 year old virgins/otakus. Let's get real here. If you show that scene to any non otaku/15 year old virgin, like, say, someone that's really into football and has a girlfriend/wife, I guarantee you they'd love it. It's what guys love, except for maybe the minorities like you that has issues with something so trivial. I also assure you that nobody had issues when Angelina Jolie was seen butt naked in the movie 'Wanted'. Infact, the entire movie theatre erupted in cheers. I'd imagine you'd think that scene was cheap and annoying, though. Clearly pandering for all the virgins that watched the movie. Last but not least, we saw in Ep 2 that there is a connection between Sakamoto and Himiko. Your idea of Sakamoto leaving Himiko behind would have completely made that ep ( And the important development between the two ) pointless, since it's painfully obvious the two were meant to be together if the cover of the anime didn't make this obvious already. Wow did you even read what I wrote? Character development - the change in characterization of a dynamic character, who changes over the course of a narrative. Character development is different than characterization. Since the first episode, Sakamoto was portrayed as immature, rude, and just overall nasty. Then five episodes later, his character is developing as we see him become a bit more mature and grow (and become a total badass). And then that all gets tossed aside as the writer decided to throw in a fan service scene at the sacrifice of Sakamoto's character. And yea, he didn't kill the kid. Instead, he took away all of his food and weapons and tied him to a tree, and then left. He obviously didn't give a single shit about the kid's life, he just didn't want to be the one to take it. He's hardly compassionate. And besides, my problem wasn't that he stayed with Himiko. Why do you think that? I just stated that he should have had other priorities than sneaking a peak. And jesus christ, can you not understand anything I wrote? I said the scene was LIKE something I would expect from a show targeted at 15 year olds. It is called a simile. No. I did not say the show was targeted to 15 year old virgins. Here's what I meant by that statement, because apparently I have to break it down for you: generally, ecchi romance-comedy harem shows are more about the boobs and panties than the actual story or characters. They are, in my opinion, immature and not to be taken seriously. Now Btooom, on the other hand, is meant for mature audiences only, and has a more serious tone. But then they put in a scene where the main character's actions can be paralleled with the main character of said immature ecchi shows. My overall point is, the scene was immature and didm't fit with the rest of the story, and that is why I found it annoying. Didn't I already go over the whole "I don't mind seeing naked chicks" thing? No, I did not have a problem with seeing Angelina Jolie nude. In fact, I quite rather enjoyed it. It made sense to the context and tone of the rest of the movie. Now if, lets say, during one of the action scenes, Angelina's character got knocked out, and the main character decided to stop everything and pull her pants down to look at her underwear, yes, I would be annoyed. I already said that the fact that Himiko's panties were displayed was not the problem. The way it happened was my problem. I'm pretty sure I wrote that like 4 times already. |
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| Holy shit Komodo Dragons. That's the thing I didn't expect to be used as an animal in this series, if there would be any animals at all. Awesome episode as always, although I was facepalming throughout the whole Sakamoto lust scene. |
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Red_Keys said: And jesus christ, can you not understand anything I wrote? I said the scene was LIKE something I would expect from a show targeted at 15 year olds. It is called a simile. No. I did not say the show was targeted to 15 year old virgins. Here's what I meant by that statement, because apparently I have to break it down for you: generally, ecchi romance-comedy harem shows are more about the boobs and panties than the actual story or characters. They are, in my opinion, immature and not to be taken seriously. Now Btooom, on the other hand, is meant for mature audiences only, and has a more serious tone. But then they put in a scene where the main character's actions can be paralleled with the main character of said immature ecchi shows. My overall point is, the scene was immature and didm't fit with the rest of the story, and that is why I found it annoying. Didn't I already go over the whole "I don't mind seeing naked chicks" thing? No, I did not have a problem with seeing Angelina Jolie nude. In fact, I quite rather enjoyed it. It made sense to the context and tone of the rest of the movie. Now if, lets say, during one of the action scenes, Angelina's character got knocked out, and the main character decided to stop everything and pull her pants down to look at her underwear, yes, I would be annoyed. I already said that the fact that Himiko's panties were displayed was not the problem. The way it happened was my problem. I'm pretty sure I wrote that like 4 times already. Let's go back two pages: Red_Keys said: I guess it just shows this show's target audience: creepy otakus who are only interested in boobs, panties, and explosions. Let me rephrase what I said since I typed it out without rereading it: You said the show was targeted at creepy Otaku, and now you say the scene is like what you'd expect from ecchi harem comedies aimed at 15 year old virgins. Let's get this right: The show is aimed at males. Leave Otakus and 15 year old virgins out of it. Btooom has violence, explosions, and a plot. Great. It's mature, yes, which means anything that's sexuallized shouldn't come as a surprise. We've already seen attempted rape and the insane kid fucking a corpse ( Though that was only in the manga ). Out of all that and people getting blown to bits, a scene with panties, of all things, bothers you? That's the truely baffling thing here. It doesn't matter what context said panties were shown in, or that the show is 'mature'. The point is, the only difference between this and the previous events is that this was far lighter and trivial, so why does it bother you now? You said it didn't fit the rest of the story, yet the tone of the story was already set when those two previous events happened, so things like this should already be expected. It's not like Sakamoto was in a rush. Maybe you're annoyed because it didn't follow the status quo of what a 'mature' character should do? Big deal. It showed one thing: Sakamoto isn't perfect. He's a guy just like most of the viewers, and I guarantee you if placed in the same situation of a hot chick laying unconscious in front of them, most people would be tempted to sneak-a-peek. It's not like anything else was going on at the time either. Heck, Sakamoto could be a perfect example of an audience surrogate; a character that the audience can identify and relate with. Afterall, Sakamoto did nothing but game all day. One could argue he's an otaku, the very audience you like to mention when it comes to target audiences. As for your comment on the 'Wanted' movie, the thing is, if something like this happened in it I wouldn't be surprised. Why? Because the tone of the movie was already set; serious, yet also comedic and playful in parts. You talk about tone, yet you forget it didn't take itself seriously all the time. There were many parts of the movie that showed playful, comedic scenes. Like the one where he flips his car OVER his targets car, and as they're rolling over it it goes in slow motion and the MC shoots the target through his moonroof while saying "I'm sorry", or when he lashed out at his boss and smashed his friends face with a keyboard and the letters flew at the screen that said "Fuck you". Or when he was trying to get his gun from his apartment and his girlfriend was in there, Angelina Jolie goes in and starts making out with him out of nowhere. Point is, the scene in btooom would have fit perfectly in the Wanted movie. If it were in it, it would have been done in a comedic way. I'll say this though. It's amusing arguing with people when it comes to trivial things. I remember arguing with someone over a short boob grab in oda nobuna that was nearly exactly the same as the argument we're having now; that the scene didn't fit with the rest of the story, yet my answer was the same; the tone for it was already set. |
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Red_Keys said: I guess it just shows this show's target audience: creepy otakus who are only interested in boobs, panties, and explosions. Ok let me take this statement back, I actually regret writing it that way. I think what I meant to write was not the show's target audience, but more of the scene's target audience. I agree with you that the show's target audience is males, but I believe it is supposed to be mature, adult males. That is why it annoyed me that there was such a juvenile scene. Yvese said: Let me rephrase what I said since I typed it out without rereading it: You said the show was targeted at creepy Otaku, and now you say the scene is like what you'd expect from ecchi harem comedies aimed at 15 year old virgins. Let's get this right: The show is aimed at males. Leave Otakus and 15 year old virgins out of it. Yvese said: Heck, Sakamoto could be a perfect example of an audience surrogate; a character that the audience can identify and relate with. Afterall, Sakamoto did nothing but game all day. One could argue he's an otaku, the very audience you like to mention when it comes to target audiences. So...I don't get it. You do realize that's a contradiction on your part, right? Yvese said: Btooom has violence, explosions, and a plot. Great. It's mature, yes, which means anything that's sexuallized shouldn't come as a surprise. We've already seen attempted rape and the insane kid fucking a corpse ( Though that was only in the manga ). Out of all that and people getting blown to bits, a scene with panties, of all things, bothers you? That's the truely baffling thing here. It doesn't matter what context said panties were shown in, or that the show is 'mature'. Please reread what I wrote, and this time try to comprehend what I said I had a problem with in the first place. It's annoying to type the same thing over and over again. Yvese said: I'll say this though. It's amusing arguing with people when it comes to trivial things. I remember arguing with someone over a short boob grab in oda nobuna that was nearly exactly the same as the argument we're having now; that the scene didn't fit with the rest of the story, yet my answer was the same; the tone for it was already set. Well first off, I stated my opinion on the scene, and then you started the argument with me. Sooo...if you're complaining about being in an argument about trivial things, you have no one else to blame but yourself. And second, if you read my previous posts, I even said myself that this was a trivial matter. My literal words were: Red_Keys said: I believe we are both looking too much into the situation. The scene (to my interpretation) was supposed to be purely fan-service and comedic relief. My only qualm was that in achieving the fan-service, it portrayed Sakamoto as a pervert, and in my opinion, that is a negative thing. Red_Keys said: But like I said, I think we're looking into the scene too deeply, and taking it too seriously. The scene wasn't supposed to give us much about Sakamoto's character, or be some deep scene about the internal human struggle in a desperate situation, but rather just a look at sexy Himiko's panties. And also, yet again, like I said before, I'm not that bothered by it, I just like to rant and talk a lot. This argument is pointless and getting fucking obnoxious. To end it (at least on my part), to me, the scene was annoying and I didn't appreciate the fan-service at the cost of my respect for Sokamoto. I thought it was obtuse and unfitting. You, on the other hand, did not find it annoying. You interpreted it as fitting and lost no respect for Sokamoto. Wow holy shit I just summed our entire page of bickering in one fucking paragraph! Can we call it a damn day? Christ. Well I'm done anyway....(for now) |
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| That pantsu.. =_=" Cool episode :) |
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| O.o Now they have unexpected enemies: lizards. Now I'll wait until next episode: will they fight them or just run away? |
| I cracked up at when Sakamoto said that taking the bombs pouch off was like taking panties off. Awesome episode, love this show. |
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| Btooom episodes always go by so fast, this show is awesome. |
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| Great episode with a good mix of suspense action and drama. Because of the flashback in episode 2 the heroines actions made sense. I liked seeing Ryouta's thoughts and his way of thinking in this show, he is very relatable and if I was in his situation that'd be pretty close to how'd I react and feel. Ryouta ecchi face was hillarious by the way just trying to get a look at her panties and his "I can't speak" engrish voice was funny as hell with the girl getting pissed for being mistaken as a foreigner Komodo Dragons descending upon our trio should be an intense episode next time |
| Kinda weird I was just watching komodo dragons on national geographic a few days ago & I saw them in anime form already but then again it happens to me all the time. But anyways this episode was pretty good.I could not set my eyes off from the screen btw I support Himiko x Ryouta now. |
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| Every anime needs an oji-san geezer who loves slightly hard cup noodles! Also, hooray for not molesting rape victims. Even if no one is watching. Well done Ryouta, you just passed Civilization 101. |
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PrometheusZero said: Every anime needs an oji-san geezer who loves slightly hard cup noodles! Also, hooray for not molesting rape victims. Even if no one is watching. Well done Ryouta, you just passed Civilization 101. Lost a lot of respect for the guy after that, think my sympathy is at level Ryouta's okasan. |
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| I have to go by and finish with this anime. Easily one of the worst this season. Good that it has 8 episodes left. And bad that it has 8 episode lefts. Will not miss a thing if I had dropped it now, but since it's a 1 cour show, I will probably complete it now that I have seen the first 5 episodes. Only good thing about the anime was Komodo Dragons. Well, at least by now we know they are stranded in one of the Indonesian islands of Komodo, Rinca, Flores, Gili Motang and Padar. Yay! for the mudkipz sending their beta testers to Indonesia, one of the most densely populated countries in the world. 3/5 Edit: Yay! actually only 7 episodes left. Hooray for 12 episodes only! :D |
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| The only part of this episode I didn't like was when Ryouta tried to take off Himiko's panties. Like seriously, every other guy on the island is a pervert/rapist fuck, why must they give us a reason to hate the protagonist, the guy we're supposed to be rooting for, by making him the same as them? By not raping her it doesn't make him heroic, it makes him a decent fucking human, which is questionable because he still considered it. |
RarityNov 7, 2012 4:35 PM
| Pretty silly of the gang to camp out in the middle of the open at night like that; I mean, any other contestant can just sneak up behind them from the tree line and lob a bomb at them: BOOM! three people killed. Why not move into the forest, out of sight? |
| "Truth can always be found deep in the dungeon." ~ Balmung of the Azure Sky |
| ...and the wildlife joins the party! LOL |
| You see there's no need to wonder where your god is, Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy. |
| As a reader I thought this episode was great, I believe it had everything in there and the part with the lizards is coming up now, good stuff. |
| shit just got real |
| I'm not RAPE APOLOGIZING (as feminists would put it), but keep in mind that the main character would be desperate for sex on this island. He hasn't had any at all, not even porn. I found this a decent episode, couldn't beat episode 4 though. |
| Wait wasn't her shirt torn by that fat guy? How can it be fine in this episode? Also lol Komodo Dragons. Oh! well just throw a bomb at them. RarityRoyale said: The only part of this episode I didn't like was when Ryouta tried to take off Himiko's panties. Like seriously, every other guy on the island is a pervert/rapist fuck, why must they give us a reason to hate the protagonist, the guy we're supposed to be rooting for, by making him the same as them? By not raping her it doesn't make him heroic, it makes him a decent fucking human, which is questionable because he still considered it. As a guy i found the fact that he even considered rape quite offending because he supposedly ain't a scumbag that rapes people but yet it shows us that he considered it. What exactly is the message here? That all males even the ones not raping you are actually pretty close in raping you? I hate it how guys are portrayed like monsters like that. |
MonadNov 29, 2012 12:40 PM
| ecchi ;_; |
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| So they finally teamed up with that girl, good now lets see what will happen with them all as the ending was quite fucked with those lizards.. |
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| GG |
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| That was amazing! Komodo Dragons incoming! |
| That is their real enemy! Komodo Dragon! |
 "I like to expose what people hide. I'm an intellectual rapist." - Furudo Erika |
| dat camel toe.. this anime is a joke btw.. did I mention that the male lead sounds like a phaggot? decent voice acting though... but phaggy |
flaxman85May 11, 2013 2:58 PM
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| That's some mother Sakamoto has there. Yep. I can see her winning the "mother of the year" award. Only a mother that has such unconditional and strong love for her son would send him away to a deserted island to meet his doom. *rolls eyes* I REALLY want to know what happened with Taira. Something tells me he's not as kosher as he seems. |
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| No matter how I felt about Sakamoto treating his mother badly in the first episode, that bitch is no better. I'm not sure why the lizards were neccessary as the cliffhanger, I would have much more enjoyed Sakamoto pondering about his relationship with his mother, because he is no nice guy either. |
| We have DRAGONS!!!!! And yes Sakamoto, your mom sent you here because you are a douchebag. |
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| Oh. Komodo Dragons. Now that's something different. |
| ugh I cant believe he almost took her panties wtf |
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| This scene with Sakamoto looking at this girl's panties was just fucking disgusting. I don't know what an asshole thought it'd be a good idea to add this kind of fanservice. I facepalmed really hard. That girl has OP BMI. I mean, burning gas? OP! Pretty sure that on one point or another this old guy will betray them. He was probably lying about that 'big fight with customer'... Sakamoto's mom send him to this island? Wow, that's fucked up. |
| That old guy will surely betray them,he wants to save his own ass by collecting those green things on his own. |
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oreinjji said: great episode Definitely one of my highlights of this episode XD |
| This episode, wow i actually got that ''Mirai Nikki'' feelings back. Those worse things happening to people... and then they were thrown there by people who they knew very well. That is something! |
| While i am liking this anime so far, it is kind of shocking just how disturbing it is |
lilypippili said: ugh I cant believe he almost took her panties wtf Hahaha lol |
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