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Oct 27, 2012 11:27 PM

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I wonder if Zeppeli remembers how many frogs he has killed in order to master the Ripple.


 
Oct 28, 2012 12:20 AM
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Nilvius, it seems like we share similar tastes in anime.

I do not think this is rushed at all. We got a training montage. It could of been a lot shorter.

I guess most battle shounen fans cannot fathom a series actually progressing fast. Compare this to Naruto or Bleach any day of the week in terms of speed.
 
Oct 28, 2012 1:31 AM

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Nilvius, it seems like we share similar tastes in anime.
That reminds me, I still need to finish watching Galactic Heroes.
 
Oct 28, 2012 3:33 AM
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This stupid shiet is soo amusing ..
Villain plans to take over the world
Hero is training to gain power then confronts with the evil
Those dialogues are childish as hell, and the animations were so bad that I began to wonder whether this was made recently or ages ago.
Animated fights were fking terribly animated, there were no action sequences at all.
They just showed pictures(1-3 frames) with words they have what they called animation. So garbage.
Unnecessary dialogues appeared every time shits happened, manly poses are lame and retarded. PLZ stop talking trashes when battling.

Gonna keep watching anyway to see how much worst it will turn out.
 
Oct 28, 2012 4:19 AM
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I wasn´t quite pleased with this episode, many scenes were shortened, many details were altered or forgotten.
For instance, the Jack the Ripper introduction scene was merely a shadow of it´s manga-counterpart.
There were just no moments for taking a breath.

I´m not sure if this insane pace is better for getting new fans, but I know that it wasn´t exactly meant for the old fans, judging specifically from this episode.

And compared to the manga, Jonathan looks a little bit too derp for me, he didn´t have those gigantic lips in the chapters that were covered in this episode.
 
Oct 28, 2012 5:04 AM

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*Looking the comments above..*

Actually the episode wasn't that rushed and the animation quality was amazing.
 
Oct 28, 2012 5:48 AM

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Kuronoo said:
*Looking the comments above..*

Actually the episode wasn't that rushed and the animation quality was amazing.


It's rushed actually. There were cut scenes in this episode
-Erina as the cold nurse, when Speedwagon first visits Jojo in the morning.
-Jack the Ripper's "faking" before killing the women.
-Parts where Jack the Ripper actually attacks Dio
-Parts where Dio shows off to Jack

and that's just the first few pages of volume 3.

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Those dialogues are childish as hell, and the animations were so bad that I began to wonder whether this was made recently or ages ago.


Ironically yes, this was made in 1986, and just got animated now. For this modern standard it can feel a bit cheesy and outdated, but this was one of the most popular series at that time. This is the very first Jojo anime to be adapted as a TV series. But there was an OVA about the 3rd part though, this new one is the very 1st part.

David Animation is actually doing a good job recreating that old nostalgic '80s manga. So this anime was specifically made targeting old anime fans. It's not trying to pander the moe industry.

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Oct 28, 2012 5:49 AM
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I did not felt rushing in this episode - instead of it - this is so called fine story, animation and peace of episode. It is anime not manga so creativity or different own version can be/should be done. Honestly those 4 episodes were 9+ and I hope for more with same quality given.
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Oct 28, 2012 6:05 AM

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The episode really wasn't rushed and the stuff that was cut (about 6 pages out of 7 Chapters) weren't all that important.

Can't wait for next week!
 
Oct 28, 2012 6:44 AM

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Most of the scenes that they shortened (such as the early pages with Jack the Ripper and Erina) weren't really that necessary and were perfectly fine to skim over. The only part that I hated seeing them have to rush though was the introduction (as well as the backstory) of Zeppeli. Punching the frog especially seemed so much more epic and drawn out in the manga somehow, and I really wanted there to be more buildup than what was given.



Overall though, this is still a fun episode. ^^
 
Oct 28, 2012 7:03 AM

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Good episode!!! Getting into this series now:D
 
Oct 28, 2012 11:00 AM

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After the awesomeness and testosterone high of the third episode, the fourth one kind of pale in comparison.

I could understand why some people can't get into this anime, compare with the ones that are popular nowadays they from two different world.

Me for one I enjoy it and very refreshing from the annoying pussies worthless heroes that plague anime at the moment.
 
Oct 28, 2012 11:42 AM
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azbc1209 said:
*snip*

Didn't you just drop it? What are you, schizophrenic?
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My inner Speedwagon doesn't approve of this.
 
Oct 28, 2012 2:58 PM
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Katakis said:
azbc1209 said:
*snip*

Didn't you just drop it? What are you, schizophrenic?



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RMNDolphy said:

No.

Then drop.


I'll just copy/paste what I wrote in the previous thread:

"I think there's merit in continuing to watch shows you don't enjoy. If you view anime as an art, analyzing a shows failing can be an illuminating experience and even help you appreciate quality shows even more. To think about how the show fails, why the show fails, what the show could have done to be better, why the show made you feel the way a certain way -All important things to consider when looking at a piece of art. And, of course, it's important to see how things play out in the long run for an extended, serialized art such as TV anime. To only watch a part of the show before concluding what it's perceived value is would be akin to only looking at the corner of a painting or the first movement of a much larger musical piece and doing the same."

and:

"I continue to watch this show that I hate because it makes me think critically and in turn helps me appreciate the medium more.
For example, earlier in this thread I complained about Kirito essentially being invincible and why I thought that made him an uninteresting character. Since then, I've been thinking more about it. I'm watching another show at the moment called Future Boy Conan, directed by Hayao Miyazaki, in which the main character, Conan, is even more of a super-human, invincible powerhouse than Kirito. I've been think a lot about why Kirito bugs me but Conan is A-OK. I haven't quite figured out the answer yet, but that type of critical thinking is good, healthy, and intellectually satisfying. At least in my opinion it is."




Just a quote from SAO, why didn't you drop cause you dislike it?
Apparently I want to see the show some people called best show of the season.
 
Oct 28, 2012 4:05 PM

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If you view anime as an art,

See, a mindset like that could certainly make for a big difference between the people who are enjoying Jojo's Bizarre Adventure and themselves. Everybody who loves Jojo already knows that the plots are dumb and goofy as hell; that's one of the reasons why we love it. It's a hilarious series to witness, and it only continues to get more goofy, outrageous, and fun from Part 2 onwards. I'm sorry if anyone came here looking for a show that would tickle their psuedointellectual minds, because all they're going to get here is the supernatural shonen equivalent of a spaghetti western... with fabulous outfits.

Also, if somebody actually thinks that Jojo is about invincible protagonists, then I don't know what to tell them, other than that they're judging much too prematurely. =P
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Oct 28, 2012 4:07 PM

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This is just to say that Part 1 is almost finished. So maybe, you will change your opinion for part 2.
 
Oct 28, 2012 4:09 PM

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Don't try to justify your stupidness.

Watching a show you dislike is dumb, period. The so bad it's good excuse doesn't exist, because if you are ENTERTAINED, then it's good for you.

That is all.
 
Oct 28, 2012 4:50 PM
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I call bull on what azbc1209 said the moment he put "dropped" with exclamation marks and capital letters in his first comment (seriously why do that? were you shouting in your head or out loud when typing it?). If you were watching it for the reasons to see why it's bad and to appreciate better things then you should had just give your opinion about the episode and that's it.

Oh! and there is are many reasons why people are saying that part 2 and forward are way better (I'm halfway part 4 of the manga and I can easily see why jojo is way better than many of the current shonen of today)
 
Oct 28, 2012 6:20 PM

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Wow, what to say.

This has to be some of the cheesiest, overblown, over-the-top, ridiculous anime that I have ever seen!

And yet...

I can't help but love it! The reactions are so over-exaggerated and everything about the (male) characters SCREAMS "I AM MANLY, SEE ME PUNCH SOMETHING" that it's incredibly entertaining.

I couldn't help but laugh at the one part were zeppeli hit Jojo with the ripple, and all of a sudden, Jojo is like, "I cant even feel a thing in my broken arm! I can even lift this large rock!!" AND HE JUST LIFTS THIS LARGE, CONVIENIENTLY CONJURED ROCK THAT CAME OUT OF NOWHERE! I seriously cracked up!
 
Oct 28, 2012 6:40 PM
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I hope DUWANG hasn't dropped this. Their subs bring me cheer every week.
 
Oct 29, 2012 3:44 AM

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A new group of fan-subs. for Jojo. Muda Muda Muda who are fan of Jojo.
 
Oct 29, 2012 4:19 AM

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Good episode.

I liked the new character, Zeppeli :D
 
Oct 29, 2012 9:38 AM

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This has to be some of the cheesiest, overblown, over-the-top, ridiculous anime that I have ever seen!

And yet...

I can't help but love it! The reactions are so over-exaggerated and everything about the (male) characters SCREAMS "I AM MANLY, SEE ME PUNCH SOMETHING" that it's incredibly entertaining.

I couldn't help but laugh at the one part were zeppeli hit Jojo with the ripple, and all of a sudden, Jojo is like, "I cant even feel a thing in my broken arm! I can even lift this large rock!!" AND HE JUST LIFTS THIS LARGE, CONVIENIENTLY CONJURED ROCK THAT CAME OUT OF NOWHERE! I seriously cracked up!

True, I was also laughing when it was like: Oh my arm is healed, I can even lift this large rock! Genius comedy.
This show is not for everyone and this is not a show everyone will like.
Most people that like this either like old styles stuff or watched plenty of anime and just enjoy something different.

On azbc1209's list I also saw that Madoka only got a 7 from him. But seeing his/her list he hasn't watched enough "generic" stuff to appreciate shows like this. Sure I only have 37 days right now but almost all of those days are from short, "normal" shows instead of 500 episodes Bleach, Dragon Ball etc. I didn't like this kind of stuff at the beginning too, but now I love these unique works. They're just art imo.

I can't wait for more, amazing episode!
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Oct 29, 2012 11:38 AM
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Jojo only playing around woth you, his sake NOT EVEN DROP
 
Oct 29, 2012 2:55 PM

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Zeppeli's VA is great and the whole episode felt great despite the fact that they rushed through certain parts.
Stone Ocean adaption when?
 
Oct 29, 2012 3:34 PM
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avesome but to rushed :S
 
Oct 29, 2012 5:37 PM

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New character, new power + new enemy(Already defeated) = Good Episode ;D

 
Oct 30, 2012 6:52 AM

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Man, I really hope that OST comes out soon. Some of the background tracks are really beautiful. And I rolled with laughter, watching GG subs - so classy. Speedwagon had by far the best lines.

specially the Jojo vs Dio OST.great adaptation really enjoying it
 
Oct 30, 2012 9:37 AM
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LOL. Speedwagon FTW
 
Oct 30, 2012 4:53 PM
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The episode was great as usual.
It feels a bit rushed, but I don't care much, as long as they don't skip any important part.

5/5

PS: Zeppeli ftw.
 
Oct 31, 2012 3:10 AM
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Why is the dialogue so intense. Everyone is screaming all the time or being overly dramatic even in normal conversation. I like the series so far, but the yelling is a bit distracting at times.

 
Oct 31, 2012 8:28 AM

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Why is the dialogue so intense. Everyone is screaming all the time or being overly dramatic even in normal conversation. I like the series so far, but the yelling is a bit distracting at times.


REAL MEN SCREAM ALL THE TIME
EVEN ONLINE
Stone Ocean adaption when?
 
Oct 31, 2012 11:31 AM

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KingYoshi said:
Why is the dialogue so intense. Everyone is screaming all the time or being overly dramatic even in normal conversation. I like the series so far, but the yelling is a bit distracting at times.


You might as well get used to it, because I doubt that will change.
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Oct 31, 2012 1:21 PM
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Why is the dialogue so intense.
because yes.
 
Oct 31, 2012 3:43 PM

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I think the episode is a bit rushed; a few scenes from the manga should've made it to this episode. Overall though, I still enjoyed it. The Ripple looks gorgeous and Mr.Zeppeli FTW!
 
Oct 31, 2012 4:19 PM

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I swear this seemed like 5 minutes!!!!
 
Oct 31, 2012 5:53 PM

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Maybe I misread something in the manga, or it was badly translated, but wasn't he just supposed to not feel the pain? I think that the ripple wasn't actually healing. Nevertheless, this option is way better, as you can imagine him lifting a large rock with a broken arm without feeling pain, because well, that's the point, not feeling pain.

Comparing to the translation of the manga, the lines really sound way more cheesy and simple. It's like they aren't even saying full sentences lol. You don't even need fansubs for Jojo haha.

Too bad it was heavily censored. That Jack x horse scene was could have been more epic. I mean it's a horse. It's not like it's Riki Oh, where he stands up from inside a man, as ridiculous as it sounds.

Looks like they'll finish part 1 really soon. It really does feel like trolling manga's slow pace.

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Nov 1, 2012 3:33 AM

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KingYoshi said:
Why is the dialogue so intense. Everyone is screaming all the time or being overly dramatic even in normal conversation. I like the series so far, but the yelling is a bit distracting at times.


You should yell too while you watch. Maybe it will be less distracting then.
 
Nov 1, 2012 6:50 PM

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Man, the censorship is killing me... Maybe I should just wait for the BDs... Get a feeling, so complicated.

Speedwagon is so awesome that
Part 7 spoiler
 
Nov 1, 2012 11:08 PM

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Man, the censorship is killing me... Maybe I should just wait for the BDs... Get a feeling, so complicated.

Speedwagon is so awesome that
Part 7 spoiler


I thought that was
 
Nov 2, 2012 1:05 PM

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THIS SERIES WARRANTS 100% UPTIME ON CAPS LOCK!
Don't forget.
Always, somewhere,
someone is fighting for you.
As long as you remember her,
you are not alone.
 
Nov 2, 2012 7:59 PM

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Man, the censorship is killing me... Maybe I should just wait for the BDs... Get a feeling, so complicated.

Speedwagon is so awesome that
Part 7 spoiler


wow this is cool
 
Nov 2, 2012 8:15 PM

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Kuronoo said:
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Actually the episode wasn't that rushed and the animation quality was amazing.
If you say this episode wasn't rushed, you have most definitely not read the manga. I'm pretty sure they just compressed an entire volume into one episode here.
 
Nov 2, 2012 11:43 PM

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It was seven chapters, the most in one episode so far.

I didn't feel that the episodes were "rushed" until this one, honestly. Now it seems like they're on a sprint to make it out of Part 1 as quickly as possible... ^^;;;;
 
Nov 3, 2012 12:25 AM
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>[DUWANG]_Jojo's_Bizarre_Adventure_-_04[240p].wmv
GLORIOUS
 
Nov 4, 2012 5:43 AM

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>[DUWANG]_Jojo's_Bizarre_Adventure_-_04[240p].wmv
GLORIOUS


"Friend frog does not belive in ripple that's why only stone was harmed"

These subs, man.
Stone Ocean adaption when?
 
Nov 6, 2012 7:48 PM

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Where's the obligatory "Not as good as Psycho-Pass" comments?
 
Nov 7, 2012 4:41 AM

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The guys who spammed that were IRC trolls anyway, don't even bother.
Stone Ocean adaption when?
 
Nov 9, 2012 11:06 PM
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fdsfgs said:
>[DUWANG]_Jojo's_Bizarre_Adventure_-_04[240p].wmv
GLORIOUS







Modified by Enigma_, Nov 9, 2012 11:46 PM
 
Nov 12, 2012 4:21 PM

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Wow, I really thought it couldn't top the last episode but it did. Really enjoyed this one, I haven't been disappointed with any ep so far.
 
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