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Oct 11, 2012 7:15 AM

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Weekly Playboy News released an interview with director Motohiro Katsuyuki and writer Urobuchi Gen about new anime Psycho-Pass. Monohiro said he didn't allow the production staff to use the word "moe" in the discussion meeting. "This anime goes against the current trend of anime industry. So it'll either be a complete failure or a great success." Urobuchi said Motohiro protects him from noitamina producer's demands to add appealing elements for female audience.

Urobuchi said this anime has cruel scenes both physically and mentally. Motohiro joked that he wanted kids audience to have a trauma for life by watching this anime.

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Oct 11, 2012 7:17 AM

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Urobuchi said this anime has cruel scenes both physically and mentally.


In other news, the sun rises from the East.
 
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Urobuchi said this anime has cruel scenes both physically and mentally. Motohiro joked that he wanted kids audience to have a trauma for life by watching this anime.


lol as expected of UROBUTCHER!!!
and CyberPunk anime should be cruel and depressing so i cannot wait for this!!!
 
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He is my hero for that!! xD
 
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Executive Director Motohiro Katsuyuki = MY HERO

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Reactions from anime fans in Japan that I read
- The character design seems moe enough to me though
- Ghost in the Shell is also moe, so what?
- They seem to talk about moe from male point of view. Perhaps moe from female point of view does not count? I can see quite a lot of female appealing elements in it despite what Urobuchi said.
- They want to confirm that the consumer target is the female audience?
- What else do you expect from Urobuchi ?
- What difference does it make? Those who want moe will find things that are moe to them.
- OK, they want it to be like "quality anime"... Will it sell as poorly as those "quality anime"?
Modified by symbv, Oct 11, 2012 7:29 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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"Urobuchi said Motohiro protects him from noitamina producer's demands to add appealing elements for female audience."

So no shitty BL innuendo either? Psycho Pass = confirmed for AotY.
 
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Oct 11, 2012 7:28 AM
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Then there is still hope for this anime :3
 
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well.. i'm kinda really glad.

 
Oct 11, 2012 7:29 AM

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So this is going to be a grimderp show aimed at Hot Topic shopping edgy teens?
Ok™
 
Oct 11, 2012 7:30 AM

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This anime just became even more interesting.
 
Oct 11, 2012 7:35 AM

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ehh.. never expected that show to be moe anyway..

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thank goodness, im glad they are not poisoning it with that crap. Ive been waiting for something that "goes against the current trend of anime". It being a CyberPunk anime makes it even better. Hoping to get a similar feel from it as i did with ghost in a shell.
then again there is Akane Tsunemori, she going to be no "Major"
edit: ok just watched the trailer...lol, im probably only going to like Tomomi Masaoka
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Maybe he has some traumatic experiences with this word
like he had a dog called "Moe", which died when he was young
poor one :(

whole idea looks nice, as well as what they plan to do
now how they will execute it
 
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I still know what you did there Urobutcher-sama
 
Oct 11, 2012 7:53 AM

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Not unexpected, but it's still great to hear this~
 
Oct 11, 2012 7:54 AM

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McRib said:
So this is going to be a grimderp show aimed at Hot Topic shopping edgy teens?


my thoughts exactly.
 
Oct 11, 2012 7:55 AM

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Madoka was yuri, Psycho-Pass will be yaoi.
 
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Psycho-pass confirmed for awesome. Great news!
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Madoka was yuri, Psycho-Pass will be yaoi.

My body is ready.
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thank goodness, im glad they are not poisoning it with that crap. Ive been waiting for something that "goes against the current trend of anime". It being a CyberPunk anime makes it even better. Hoping to get a similar feel from it as i did with ghost in a shell.

Quite many anime fans in Japan finds Ghost in the Shell quite moe though.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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WHAT?!?!?!!
 
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its its fantastic new hopfull this will start a new trend of no moe that would make me one happy Otaku
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dtshyk said:
Motohiro protects him from noitamina producer's demands to add appealing elements for female audience.
Need for such protection explains why most of noitamina series suck.
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Progeusz said:
Madoka was yuri, Psycho-Pass will be yaoi.


One girl kiss girl scene = yuri (sexual/explicit relationship between females) = dat be sum great logic. /sarcasm.


Anyways, I like how they mentioned: "This anime goes against the current trend of anime industry. So it'll either be a complete failure or a great success."

Pretty much saying that moe increases the chance for a anime to be more successful in this era while ones that aren't are hit or miss.
 
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symbv said:
Tr1ckR said:
thank goodness, im glad they are not poisoning it with that crap. Ive been waiting for something that "goes against the current trend of anime". It being a CyberPunk anime makes it even better. Hoping to get a similar feel from it as i did with ghost in a shell.

Quite many anime fans in Japan finds Ghost in the Shell quite moe though.


:/ really? what about it is moe? Ive watched anime and read discussions about people going on how moe some of the characters are in them, but i don't really see any of those types of characters in ghost in the shell. Then again im not too familiar with the definition of it lol
 
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It will be moe has long as Akane stays alive even if she gets tortured .
 
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Progeusz said:
Madoka was yuri, Psycho-Pass will be yaoi.


My body is not ready for this :D
 
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Alpha_Centauri said:
Psycho-pass confirmed for awesome. Great news!
Progeusz said:
Madoka was yuri, Psycho-Pass will be yaoi.

My body is ready.


Oh god please no.
 
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My interest in this series has significantly increased.
 
Oct 11, 2012 8:17 AM

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Paul said:
Progeusz said:
Madoka was yuri, Psycho-Pass will be yaoi.


One girl kiss girl scene = yuri (sexual/explicit relationship between females) = dat be sum great logic. /sarcasm.
lack of sex scenes = not implied yuri (pure love between girls) = dat be sum great logic. /sarcasm.
: )

Can't wait for this series, I have various reasons and actual quality isn't main of them.
 
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Bless him, Im so tired of cliché plots.

Progeusz said:
Madoka was yuri, Psycho-Pass will be yaoi.


I wish. And if it has both, better.
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dtshyk said:
Urobuchi said this anime has cruel scenes both physically and mentally. Motohiro joked that he wanted kids audience to have a trauma for life by watching this anime.

I wish i was 12 again.

dtshyk said:
Urobuchi said Motohiro protects him from noitamina producer's demands to add appealing elements for female audience.

So no faggotry? That sounds great especially with how gay the chara design looks.
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Urobutcher, YOU'RE THE MAN!!
 
Oct 11, 2012 8:25 AM

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Motohiro joked that he wanted kids audience to have a trauma for life by watching this anime.


As the saying goes: "A mature anime for mature viewers like myself". It's not like I was going to watch this anyway so I don't mind anything.
Also how the hell are they going to avoid moe, if the female lead is going to be played by KanaHana? It doesn't really make sense.
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dtshyk said:
Urobuchi said Motohiro protects him from noitamina producer's demands to add appealing elements for female audience.

So no faggotry? That sounds great especially with how gay the chara design looks.
Considering it has KHR's art and Urobuchi already created F/Z, series can be 100% straight for all it wants and even then still be flooded by homo arts&doujins.
 
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Progeusz said:
Paul said:
Progeusz said:
Madoka was yuri, Psycho-Pass will be yaoi.


One girl kiss girl scene = yuri (sexual/explicit relationship between females) = dat be sum great logic. /sarcasm.
lack of sex scenes = not implied yuri (pure love between girls) = dat be sum great logic. /sarcasm.
: )


There's a fair difference between shoujo-ai and yuri (and shounen-ai and yaoi). Medaka Box isn't a shoujo-ai and doesn't try to be.

For this series, I'm not expecting much of 'your definition of yaoi' to apply with the characters unless the entire main cast was mostly males or something. Otherwise, leave it to the fujoshis to do the fantasizing.
 
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And the hype machine keeps on churning. I'm getting really nervous about being let down. I rather just watch the series rather than keep hearing what elements it contains or doesn't contain. The noise surrounding this series since Urobuchi Gen was attached to it has been deafening. It's going to be hard to fairly critique it without going too far in either direction (AotY or Major Flop).
 
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Paul said:
Progeusz said:
Paul said:
Progeusz said:
Madoka was yuri, Psycho-Pass will be yaoi.


One girl kiss girl scene = yuri (sexual/explicit relationship between females) = dat be sum great logic. /sarcasm.
lack of sex scenes = not implied yuri (pure love between girls) = dat be sum great logic. /sarcasm.
: )


There's a fair difference between shoujo-ai and yuri (and shounen-ai and yaoi). Medaka Box isn't a shoujo-ai and doesn't try to be.

For this series, I'm not expecting much of 'your definition of yaoi' to apply with the characters unless the entire main cast was mostly males or something. Otherwise, leave it to the fujoshis to do the fantasizing.
You seem to live in the past. Words change their meanings over time... Many people don't use "shoujo-ai" and "shounen-ai" and prefer using "yuri" and "yaoi" as terms with broader meaning. It shouldn't be surprising as most of non-doujin stuff has no explicit scenes for obvious reasons and yuri lovers have to deal with shows like Rinne no Lagrange while yaoi lovers have Kuroko no Basket etc. If we wanted to stick to your terminology, there would be almost no yaoi or yuri anime outside of rare OVAs.

Edit: Oh, even wiki agrees:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_(genre)
Since then, the meaning has drifted from its mostly pornographic connotation to describe the portrayal of intimate love, sex, or the intimate emotional connections between women.

As of 2009, the term yuri is used in Japan to mean the depiction of attraction between women (whether sexual, spiritual, or romantic; explicit or implied) in manga, anime, and related entertainment media, as well as the genre of stories primarily dealing with this content.
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YES. Thank you.

He is my hero.
 
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Progeusz said:
Paul said:
Progeusz said:
Paul said:
Progeusz said:
Madoka was yuri, Psycho-Pass will be yaoi.


One girl kiss girl scene = yuri (sexual/explicit relationship between females) = dat be sum great logic. /sarcasm.
lack of sex scenes = not implied yuri (pure love between girls) = dat be sum great logic. /sarcasm.
: )


There's a fair difference between shoujo-ai and yuri (and shounen-ai and yaoi). Medaka Box isn't a shoujo-ai and doesn't try to be.

For this series, I'm not expecting much of 'your definition of yaoi' to apply with the characters unless the entire main cast was mostly males or something. Otherwise, leave it to the fujoshis to do the fantasizing.
You seem to live in the past. Words change their meanings over time... Many people don't use "shoujo-ai" and "shounen-ai" and prefer using "yuri" and "yaoi" as terms with broader meaning. It shouldn't be surprising as most of non-doujin stuff has no explicit scenes for obvious reasons and yuri lovers have to deal with shows like Rinne no Lagrange while yaoi lovers have Kuroko no Basket etc. If we wanted to stick to your terminology, there would be almost no yaoi or yuri anime outside of rare OVAs.

Edit: Oh, even wiki agrees:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_(genre)
Since then, the meaning has drifted from its mostly pornographic connotation to describe the portrayal of intimate love, sex, or the intimate emotional connections between women.

As of 2009, the term yuri is used in Japan to mean the depiction of attraction between women (whether sexual, spiritual, or romantic; explicit or implied) in manga, anime, and related entertainment media, as well as the genre of stories primarily dealing with this content.


That'd be the internet. Words don't change their meaning, people on the internet change their meaning by using it improperly and others assume that is the correct meaning and thus use that meaning which then spreads.

And there are plenty of yuri and yaoi anime. They're called hentai. Of course, just because they are one of the two doesn't mean they're required to be a hentai, it's just because both yuri and yaoi 'usually' involve more sexual/mature scenes.
 
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Dalek-baka said:
Maybe he has some traumatic experiences with this word
like he had a dog called "Moe", which died when he was young
poor one :(

whole idea looks nice, as well as what they plan to do
now how they will execute it

You think so???



 
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Well, the anime seems to have that kind of storyline which would get crappy if moe was added
So I fully support his decision
 
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I like what it sounds like :3
I'm getting more and more excited about this xDDD
 
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This anime just became even more interesting.

Agreed, I hope this show turns out good.
As it turns out, living was a punishment...
 
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You think so???
I remember one interview with Urobuchi when he was claiming that Madoka will be calm and healing anime - and it turned out to be what it was.
Now he's saying something like this... maybe again the opposite will be given.

But one more marketing stunt, nothing to be excited or being hyped.
Still I try not to have any expectations and so far it worked.
 
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So this is going to be a grimderp show aimed at Hot Topic shopping edgy teens?
As opposed to landwhales and pedophiles, yes.
 
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Paul said:
There's a fair difference between shoujo-ai and yuri (and shounen-ai and yaoi). Medaka Box isn't a shoujo-ai and doesn't try to be.

This is a difference between Japanese and English fandom, though I think foreigners are more in line with the Japanese meaning lately. Technically, shoujo-ai is used in Japan to mean outright lolicon (shoujo = young girl, ai = love, after all), not girl-girl relationships. The distinction between "non-explicit shoujo-ai" and "explicit yuri" is really a second-hand creation of foreigners, not an original meaning in Japan.

百合 (yuri) is used in Japan to denote romantic or sexual attraction or subtext between two females, broadly. It doesn't have to be pornographic, or even explicitly canonical, so if you asked a Japanese fan Madoka would absolutely be considered (among many other things, it's important to stress!) a yuri anime. And if you search 百合 on pixiv, that's where you'll find anything from explicit pornography to girls holding hands and blushing slightly. Not so much 少女愛, which would really be supplanted by the contracted loanword ロリ or ロリコン (lolicon for lolita complex, obviously). So Progeusz basically has the right of it. I'm sure symbv would, as a Japanese person, be able to give more nuance if I glossed over anything.


I guess he would be correct if he and I were going by your reasoning, though I for one, am not going by this 'Japanese and English fandom', I'm simply following the genres definition used by every anime database site. Looking up a anime with shoujo-ai as a genre won't get me some title about lolicon or non-girl on girl romance, looking up shoujo-ai as a genre will give me titles about the complete opposite, that is, girl x girl relationships. Looking up yuri will give me a list of explicit female relationship anime, in which case, are mostly hentai.
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dtshyk said:
Motohiro joked that he wanted kids audience to have a trauma for life by watching this anime.


Wow.
 
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dtshyk said:
Urobuchi said this anime has cruel scenes both physically and mentally.


"Urobuchi said this anime will be censored when it airs. To see all the blood'n'guts, buy the bloo-rei, bitches."

...is what i got from this.
 
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