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Jul 12, 2013 8:08 PM
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has Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon II been released anywhere other then japan? If not those sales figures will still rise.
nvm forgot to look first, also if they can make the 3rd season as great as seasons 1 and 2 it will not be a risk
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They really need to work on the anime fast because the author writes one arc every year and one season of the anime covers one arc. This year the novels have reached the 6th arc and most likely the 7th arc is next year. Even if there's gonna be a third season next year, by that time the anime would be 4 arcs or 4 years behind.

The main problem is how many arcs will this series have and is the studio willing to produce so many seasons when one season only covers one arc?
 
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there is a simple solution to that problem and it is to make the seasons longer so they cover more than one arc per season that way they could eventually catch up and we wouldn't have to wait so long for more
 
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i don't really know much about this things. Just finished watching season 2. From a business standpoint however, i'd be concerned about new viewers not understanding crap (ie: prerequisite watching both seasons to understand the complex story, hence limiting your audience) if you grab the amount of people that bought season 2 and cut out a % of people that wouldn't buy S3 for whatever reason out of it...it might not be worth the trouble (ie: other investments are more profitable).

Again, i'm just looking at it in my very noobish point of view. Hope it does come out.
 
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ZetronovieK said:
i don't really know much about this things. Just finished watching season 2. From a business standpoint however, i'd be concerned about new viewers not understanding crap (ie: prerequisite watching both seasons to understand the complex story, hence limiting your audience) if you grab the amount of people that bought season 2 and cut out a % of people that wouldn't buy S3 for whatever reason out of it...it might not be worth the trouble (ie: other investments are more profitable).

Again, i'm just looking at it in my very noobish point of view. Hope it does come out.


I don't think new viewers will watch the third season, if they are interested they will obtain the other 2 seasons somehow and watch them to catch up before the third season.

Season 2 final blu ray average was only 1.2k below Season 1 final blu ray average in terms of sales.
 
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Sooo.... Any news in this matter? :)
 
Sep 19, 2013 6:08 PM
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Sooo.... Any news in this matter? :)

I was at the Sunrise Panel in Anime Expo 2013 and they said its in the works
 
Sep 20, 2013 7:39 AM

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westusa said:
ma_ko said:
Sooo.... Any news in this matter? :)

I was at the Sunrise Panel in Anime Expo 2013 and they said its in the works


you mean? they're working on S3?
 
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westusa said:
ma_ko said:
Sooo.... Any news in this matter? :)

I was at the Sunrise Panel in Anime Expo 2013 and they said its in the works


great :D

waiting..............
 
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i come just to finish the series in like 2 days, interesting story(i would say that this anime is rather complicated for young people) i didnt liked to see Toori Aoi naked 75% of the series(well i think they just exagerated a bit on this in the second season but otherwise) this series was Really nice, probably a season 3 in 2014? spring or fall? if anyone have any news would be greatly appreciated

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there will probably never be a season 3. Because adapting the next arc in one court would mean stacking even more pages adapted by episode.
The season 1 had a pretty standard (in the anime industry) ratio for "rushed LN adaptation" with a little over 100 pages/episode. You see that kind of number quite a lot in anime, nothing surprising here. However, depending of the style of the author and the subject, 100 pages/episode can still be OK, or it can let you feel like it's rushed, or it can be completely rushed. Good adaptation usually have between 60 and 80/episode btw.

Being a huge info dump, Horizon is in the last category. The anime gave you like 1/4 of the necessary information in the first series. And this isn't contestable, as you just need to read each episode's thread on this board to see that lots of people had to rely on wikia/wiki/other for extra informations in order to know what was going on. You never see that on other adaptation. This show how much of a rush it was. And I think that considering how much info was needed, they actually did a pretty good job on the episode 1 to 3 trying to cover as much as possible.

So while 100 pages/episodes is quite common nowadays for a LN adaptation, it was a freaking bad ratio for Horizon. Then what about the second season?
It simply breaks by a lot the record of highest page/episode ratio in the anime industry, with a ridiculous 155 pages/episode. That's no longer compression. I don't think there's a single anime with a ratio> 130/episode and they did a 150+ on a anime that felt already incredibly rushed with just a 100/episode ratio.
The result is that we lost most of what made the story.

So what about the third arc then? It's even longer than the second one. With one court, it would require to break the record again and go as high as 190pages/episode. Ridiculous number.
That, or to take a risk economically by adapting a single arc over two court.

Never of those two things are going to happen. I sure don't want to see the first one as it would just be a complete crap with that kind of ratio; and the second one would be nice but they'll never do that anyway.

Hence no third season.
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That, or to take a risk economically by adapting a single arc over two court.

Never of those two things are going to happen. I sure don't want to see the first one as it would just be a complete crap with that kind of ratio; and the second one would be nice but they'll never do that anyway.
Why is that a risk and something they'll never do considering how much the first two seasons sold?
 
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there will probably never be a season 3


It's been confirmed, according to someone a few posts back. While I don't mean to disrespect you, your belief that it would never happen is effectively null and void unless the studio says otherwise.
 
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Yeah, just like there has been a thousand of "confirmations" of a third season of spice and wolf and a new season of haruhi, yet we never saw anything. I'm sorry, but it has NOT been confirmed officially so no, it's not confirmed.

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That, or to take a risk economically by adapting a single arc over two court.

Never of those two things are going to happen. I sure don't want to see the first one as it would just be a complete crap with that kind of ratio; and the second one would be nice but they'll never do that anyway.
Why is that a risk and something they'll never do considering how much the first two seasons sold?

It's a risk because a third season would not be guaranteed to have the same success as the previous two. Especially since it's a really complex verse, the more you wait before creating a new season, the more people will forget about what happened in those 3500 previous pages. And since even with two court they would already be hard pressed to finish the adaptation with that number of episodes, and considering how much stuff happened before, they won't have the leisure to remind people about what happened in the two previous seasons.
We're not talking about a shakugan no shana here. the complexity is on a whole other level.

It's been more than one year since the second season aired, and still no official announcement for a third season. That pretty much settles it. And the more time passes, the more unrealistic the idea of a third season becomes.
Besides, in the end of the first series, they adapted partially the prologue of the second arc. But in the end of the second series, what did they do? Instead, they simply have shown quick images about several characters appearing in the next arc, that shouldn't have been shown right now. This looks a lot like what was done in the end of the c^3 series if you ask me. They don't really have any plan to adapt the next season so they just show a little other characters for the fans.

And besides, if they didn't do two court to adapt the second arc even though doing one court lead to the most compressed LN adaptation in history, I don't see how they would risk it for a third season. Doesn't sound logical to me.
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Zefyris said:
there will probably never be a season 3. Because adapting the next arc in one court would mean stacking even more pages adapted by episode.
The season 1 had a pretty standard (in the anime industry) ratio for "rushed LN adaptation" with a little over 100 pages/episode. You see that kind of number quite a lot in anime, nothing surprising here. However, depending of the style of the author and the subject, 100 pages/episode can still be OK, or it can let you feel like it's rushed, or it can be completely rushed. Good adaptation usually have between 60 and 80/episode btw.

Being a huge info dump, Horizon is in the last category. The anime gave you like 1/4 of the necessary information in the first series. And this isn't contestable, as you just need to read each episode's thread on this board to see that lots of people had to rely on wikia/wiki/other for extra informations in order to know what was going on. You never see that on other adaptation. This show how much of a rush it was. And I think that considering how much info was needed, they actually did a pretty good job on the episode 1 to 3 trying to cover as much as possible.

So while 100 pages/episodes is quite common nowadays for a LN adaptation, it was a freaking bad ratio for Horizon. Then what about the second season?
It simply breaks by a lot the record of highest page/episode ratio in the anime industry, with a ridiculous 155 pages/episode. That's no longer compression. I don't think there's a single anime with a ratio> 130/episode and they did a 150+ on a anime that felt already incredibly rushed with just a 100/episode ratio.
The result is that we lost most of what made the story.

So what about the third arc then? It's even longer than the second one. With one court, it would require to break the record again and go as high as 190pages/episode. Ridiculous number.
That, or to take a risk economically by adapting a single arc over two court.

Never of those two things are going to happen. I sure don't want to see the first one as it would just be a complete crap with that kind of ratio; and the second one would be nice but they'll never do that anyway.

Hence no third season.


oh the amount of stupidity/ bias and just being plain up wrong. its like you hated this series lol.
 
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bottomline sales are what matter in the end.
 
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oh the amount of stupidity/ bias and just being plain up wrong. its like you hated this series lol.

So explaining why this will not get a third season is being biased and stupid, and saying that there will be one despite everything showing that there won't be any is being intelligent and objective? Thank you for your wonderful and objective comment. Also, how does this lead to liking or not liking a series, and what kind of point are you making with that in this discussion. Please explain, I do not get it.

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bottom line sales are what matter in the end.

And they won't do it because it would take too many episodes so it would be too much of an investment. We're talking about money indeed in the end. Sales are important but how much needs to be invested for the next season is crucial as well.
Bottom line is, I know how much the content was cut in the first and second season, and you probably don't. And I have under my nose how big is the next arc, whereas you probably don't.

Also, sales of the dvd/BR AREN'T the only thing that matter. If it was, there would be a new season of Haruhi. but there are other factors in play. You cannot just brush off every single other factor by saying "it sold fairly well".
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Zefyris said:
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oh the amount of stupidity/ bias and just being plain up wrong. its like you hated this series lol.

So explaining why this will not get a third season is being biased and stupid, and saying that there will be one despite everything showing that there won't be any is being intelligent and objective? Thank you for your wonderful and objective comment. Also, how does this lead to liking or not liking a series, and what kind of point are you making with that in this discussion. Please explain, I do not get it.

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bottom line sales are what matter in the end.

And they won't do it because it would take too many episodes so it would be too much of an investment. We're talking about money indeed in the end. Sales are important but how much needs to be invested for the next season is crucial as well.
Bottom line is, I know how much the content was cut in the first and second season, and you probably don't. And I have under my nose how big is the next arc, whereas you probably don't.

Also, sales of the dvd/BR AREN'T the only thing that matter. If it was, there would be a new season of Haruhi. but there are other factors in play. You cannot just brush off every single other factor by saying "it sold fairly well".

So couldn't they just extend it to a 24-26 episode season 3? Or would that require more content? Also depending on how well sales go, although iv'e heard they have been well.
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Sales have been good. A 24-26 episodes would lead to a rushed adaptation that would probably still require the customer to read wikia or other explanations about what is happening; but it was already like that in the first series so that would not be a real problem; it sold well despite this.

I would certainly like to see "loli grandma" (Yoshitsune) animated as she's awesome, and see fighting some of the monsters like Ujinao (coolest character design in Horizon imo) and Turenne (her strength is ridiculous, you can't even compare her to Mitotsudaira, the difference is just too great), as well as the satomi and sanada etc. who all appears during the third arc but... Well, it won't happen.
 
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Sales have been good. A 24-26 episodes would lead to a rushed adaptation that would probably still require the customer to read wikia or other explanations about what is happening; but it was already like that in the first series so that would not be a real problem; it sold well despite this.

I would certainly like to see "loli grandma" (Yoshitsune) animated as she's awesome, and see fighting some of the monsters like Ujinao (coolest character design in Horizon imo) and Turenne (her strength is ridiculous, you can't even compare her to Mitotsudaira, the difference is just too great), as well as the satomi and sanada etc. who all appears during the third arc but... Well, it won't happen.

Nahh bruh it's going to happen, showing new characters on final episode and not making sequel fuk dat. Placing bets for 2015
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Bottom line is, I know how much the content was cut in the first and second season, and you probably don't. And I have under my nose how big is the next arc, whereas you probably don't.

Still the series turned out pretty decent, did it not?
I too know how big the volumes are and that one of them would easily fill a 50 episode anime to the brink. And I have no doubt that Kawakami himself knows that, too. Cutting elements was inevitable, as it is with most extensive adaptions but horizon especially. That was why he put so much time and effort in the project, I dare to say more than other authors whose work gets adapted, to see it turn out the best it can with the limits given to the team.

Of course the last scene of S2 and the good sales are not a promise for a third season. It may happen next year, in a few years or it may not happen at all. Nothings set in stone and in the end only the studio that wants to produce it will know for sure, if they get the fundings or not and of course Kawakami.
 
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There were easily enough sales from both seasons to warrant it. If there is a third season in the making, expect it to be 26 episodes, or an average 13 episoder.

In the end, we can only hope!
 
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http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/anime-talk-9/ksnh-kyoukai-senjou-no-horizon-iii-its-coming-129250/ If you think there is not gonna be a season three it was already annouced where have yall been under a rock ?

 
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That picture is old and was already discussed at anime-suki forums...
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=4469551#post4469551
 
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^ Well that's why I made the comparison with a new season of spice and wold or haruhi earlier.
Although I have to admit that the fake is impressive.

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http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/anime-talk-9/ksnh-kyoukai-senjou-no-horizon-iii-its-coming-129250/ If you think there is not gonna be a season three it was already annouced where have yall been under a rock ?

Putting aside the fact of being under a rock or not, that image is now more than 6 months old. Don't you think that since then it would have generated things like a news on MAL or ANN for example, an official site, and that more info like the studios and main staff would have been leaked? The fact that no one reacted nor gave news for 7 months after that "image" alone should tell you that this was a fake.

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Zefyris said:

Bottom line is, I know how much the content was cut in the first and second season, and you probably don't. And I have under my nose how big is the next arc, whereas you probably don't.

Still the series turned out pretty decent, did it not?
I too know how big the volumes are and that one of them would easily fill a 50 episode anime to the brink. And I have no doubt that Kawakami himself knows that, too. Cutting elements was inevitable, as it is with most extensive adaptions but horizon especially. That was why he put so much time and effort in the project, I dare to say more than other authors whose work gets adapted, to see it turn out the best it can with the limits given to the team.

Of course the last scene of S2 and the good sales are not a promise for a third season. It may happen next year, in a few years or it may not happen at all. Nothings set in stone and in the end only the studio that wants to produce it will know for sure, if they get the fundings or not and of course Kawakami.

Considering how complicated the verse is, doing a two court third season (which would itself require people to look at wikia stuff to understand episodes even if they remember correctly the seasons 1&2) several years after everyone forgot about the two other seasons' details would be far too much of an economical gamble.
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I think Sunrise will eventually get around to it, they have a lot on their plate right now.
 
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I think Sunrise will eventually get around to it, they have a lot on their plate right now.
Isn't that what they have multiple studios for? I want my sequels, and I want the now! Who owes it to us? Sunrise! Why? Because we made a binding contract!
 
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Considering how complicated the verse is, doing a two court third season (which would itself require people to look at wikia stuff to understand episodes even if they remember correctly the seasons 1&2) several years after everyone forgot about the two other seasons' details would be far too much of an economical gamble.


Only that the people that want to know every little detail are a very low percentage. I am just before the final ep in S1 and I wont be reading any wiki at all, cause I dont need it. I got the jinx of the series I dont need to know every little nitty gritty detail as long as I am entertained. Its probably the same as Bioschock Infinite people said that it was very complex, but honestly the essence and core of it was relatively easy to get and only the quirky details where hard to notice. And its the same with Horizon at least so far inot s1. Its core story is relatively easy to understand and most people dont need more than that.
 
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You're basically saying that someone shutting off his/her brain while watching an anime doesn't need any explanation while he/she's watching it. If you think about what's happening then you'll need lots of explanation that you won't find in the anime in order to get WHY this is happening like this. So the only way to not find yourself with a lot of unanswered questions and an impression that the characters don't do logical decision/and so on, you always have the choice indeed to 'not think about it".

Outside of the fact that it's kind of a "thanks captain obvious" here to say that "if I don't want to understand anything else than the basic plot and don't want to think about how the plot elements are linked, I don't need any supplementary explanation" ( If I don't want to eat chocolate, I won't need a chocolate bar either I think)....

So outside of this then... I'll say Watching a show with complex scenario, complex negotiations, intricate character settings, wel thought strategies, and most importantly the most impressive world building ever, etc etc with a mindset of "I don't need to understand anything else than the basic scenario" sounds kind of a complete waste. When you feel like this, go watch Highschool DxD, not Horizon. In the end, everyone does whatever he wants; but that just seems like a complete waste. It's not about " quirky details hard to notice", half of the necessary content is missing.

Comparing a original game setting to a series of book of the size and complexity of Horizon shows how much you aren't grasping the degree of awesomeness of Horizon's world building. I've played a lot of RPG, read a ton of books, this is in a completely different league. The fact that you think it's okay to watch such a rare treasure like you're watching any generic ecchi/action anime is up to you. Just don't think everyone will follow your opinion though.
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Comparing a original game setting to a series of book of the size and complexity of Horizon shows how much you aren't grasping the degree of awesomeness of Horizon's world building. I've played a lot of RPG, read a ton of books, this is in a completely different league. The fact that you think it's okay to watch such a rare treasure like you're watching any generic ecchi/action anime is up to you. Just don't think everyone will follow your opinion though.


And right back to you. Dont think that everyone will watch this with the utmost attention and will want to know every little detail like you. And we where talking about getting a 3rd season. The only thing that matters in that regards is sales. And If a big chunk of the customers think that they dont need to know every little single detail, they wont have a problem with having alot of info stuffed in very little time, and the studio wont have a problem with producing what the costumers want.
 
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And right back to you. Dont think that everyone will watch this with the utmost attention and will want to know every little detail like you. And we where talking about getting a 3rd season. The only thing that matters in that regards is sales. And If a big chunk of the customers think that they dont need to know every little single detail, they wont have a problem with having alot of info stuffed in very little time, and the studio wont have a problem with producing what the costumers want.

What you still don't realize is that when we're talking about half the content missing, we aren't talking about 'little details". We're taking about explaining what you saw so that it actually HAVE sense.

And yes, we're talking about a third season. Ain't happening. As I said, there's even more content in the third arc than in the second that was completely rushed.
And no, it doesn't just depends on sales. If the studio deems impossible or too risky to do it,(and lots of other reasons as well, like the fact that LN sales aren't being affected enough for the adaptation to be worth it for example) no matter how much the first two seasons sold for example, we won't get a third season.

Kyoukaisen-jou no Horizon was never a tittle fitted to be adapted into an anime to begin with. It's too far away and too big for this. They tried anyway, and actually did better than expected. Kuddos to them.
But I don't think you're ever going to see the two next arc which are longer than the second one. Sales or not. Because that would be even more difficult to makes it into an anime that can sale properly.
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Hello.. I'm new here.. And just watch Kyoukai Senjo no Horizon Yesterday straight S1 and S2.. I find it totally interesting.. especially Tori..
BTW do you guys noticed that in the last scene all of them are love bird.. Plus all the new students already has partner.. Azusa+anteater, Muneshige+Gin and Tenzou+Mary...
 
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From the Otakuthon Sunrise Panel:

Q: Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere S3?
A: No plans right now

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Nothing surprising.
You'll soon have the translation of the LN reaching the 3rd arc anyway, as Js06 is quickly finishing the second part of the second arc. if you want to know what happens next, your best bets are there .
 
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Wouldn't bet against a third season but I guess other projects take priority over a third season until they feel the LN material is ready to be adapted. I'd hope for one around late 2015 latest. It's hardly gonna end up like Sora no Otoshimono which had a half baked finale. They'll want to give a fitting conclusion to the anime version but I don't think they'll want to rush it like SnO did.
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Wouldn't bet against a third season but I guess other projects take priority over a third season until they feel the LN material is ready to be adapted.

There's enough material available to make not one, but 10 cours. And that's if you rush. If you don't, then about 15 cours can be made. So no, LN material being ready is besides the point.

They'll want to give a fitting conclusion to the anime

Season one and two just covered the "opening" of the story. If they were to do (which they won't) a 2 cour third season covering the third arc, far from being a "proper conclusion", this would end into a huge cliffhanger.
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hey I've been wondering, does anyone know how well the second season sold over all. I found the sale statistics for the first season, but couldn't find anything on the second season.
 
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Wouldn't bet against a third season but I guess other projects take priority over a third season until they feel the LN material is ready to be adapted.

There's enough material available to make not one, but 10 cours. And that's if you rush. If you don't, then about 15 cours can be made. So no, LN material being ready is besides the point.

They'll want to give a fitting conclusion to the anime

Season one and two just covered the "opening" of the story. If they were to do (which they won't) a 2 cour third season covering the third arc, far from being a "proper conclusion", this would end into a huge cliffhanger.

Hey seeing as you seem to know a lot about the series past the light novels, do you what happened to Christopher Hatton, the skeleton guy.I don't think he died when the spells went off, but neither the novel or the anime ever showed what happened to him.
Do you know if he shows up, or is at least mentioned and confirmed alive after that battle?
 
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Wow, I completely forgot about that character... I think we haven't seen him since that fight, except maybe during a short comical moment with the whole english crew but... I can't remember if he was among the others that time. And since I can't recall when that moment was... that would be a bit difficult to check.
I personally don't think he died that day (well, he was already dead from the start though), as when a named character die in Horizon, you usually hear about it. So that silence about Hatton actually points toward him still being around.
 
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would this short comical moment be during one of the later light novels. Also maybe he has appeared in the divine chat, seeming as a lot of characters who don't get very much facetime in the novels, seem to pop up on the Divine chat. For reference his name is Desu O or death for the divine chat, depending on the translations i've seen.
 
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Zefyris said:
Wow, I completely forgot about that character... I think we haven't seen him since that fight, except maybe during a short comical moment with the whole english crew but... I can't remember if he was among the others that time. And since I can't recall when that moment was... that would be a bit difficult to check.
I personally don't think he died that day (well, he was already dead from the start though), as when a named character die in Horizon, you usually hear about it. So that silence about Hatton actually points toward him still being around.


would this short comical moment be during one of the later light novels. Also maybe he has appeared in the divine chat, seeming as a lot of characters who don't get very much facetime in the novels, seem to pop up on the Divine chat. For reference his name is Desu O or death for the divine chat, depending on the translations i've seen.
 
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ConfusedEggplant said:
would this short comical moment be during one of the later light novels. Also maybe he has appeared in the divine chat, seeming as a lot of characters who don't get very much facetime in the novels, seem to pop up on the Divine chat. For reference his name is Desu O or death for the divine chat, depending on the translations i've seen.

yes, it's in later novel. English characters don't really come back after the second arc (at least so far up to the 7th arc) so it was just a sudden switch for a few pages with a joke about traps opening in the ground for those giving bad answers to question or something around that, sending two english characters in an underground pool with crocodiles or something like that. Now that I'm thinking about it, this may have been around when Mary was getting drunk on the musashi. Problem is, I don't remember exactly when that scene was, either. In the 4th or 5th arc, I think, but more precisely...

And iirc, Hatton was never really active in the english divine chat either, even during the second arc.

I' thinking about it, but considering that it's a few pages somewhere in the 10k + pages since the end of the second arc, I'm not really optimistic about remembering when exactly that was, sorry :/
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Well thanks anyway, hope we see more of the English characters later on. And characters falling into pits filled with crocodiles sounds like something Hatton would think up.
 
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Zefyris said:
ConfusedEggplant said:
would this short comical moment be during one of the later light novels. Also maybe he has appeared in the divine chat, seeming as a lot of characters who don't get very much facetime in the novels, seem to pop up on the Divine chat. For reference his name is Desu O or death for the divine chat, depending on the translations i've seen.

yes, it's in later novel. English characters don't really come back after the second arc (at least so far up to the 7th arc) so it was just a sudden switch for a few pages with a joke about traps opening in the ground for those giving bad answers to question or something around that, sending two english characters in an underground pool with crocodiles or something like that. Now that I'm thinking about it, this may have been around when Mary was getting drunk on the musashi. Problem is, I don't remember exactly when that scene was, either. In the 4th or 5th arc, I think, but more precisely...

And iirc, Hatton was never really active in the english divine chat either, even during the second arc.

I' thinking about it, but considering that it's a few pages somewhere in the 10k + pages since the end of the second arc, I'm not really optimistic about remembering when exactly that was, sorry :/

Oh just a few more quick things, what happens with Tadatsugu Sakai, is he still around, who is the white haried girl on volume 3-B and is Turenne's husband still alive( speaking of Turenne I was annoyed that the anime got her hair color wrong, every piece of art shows it as white or silver).
 
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Sakai is still around. Mostly drinking and eating stuff made by Musashi lol. He's not really into any mood of doing something at all it seems, although his knowledge of important personalities is usefull sometimes. That, and he (spoiler 4th arc)


3-B cover is Anne D'Autriche. France's cast has a lot of really nice/interesting characters, and she's one of them. Charismatic, tragic, heroic, and really smart.

Turenne's husband is still alive and kicking. As a werewolf, Turenne's magical protection extend to her husband, so he's not aging since he got together with Turenne. Since he was already looking really young (and he's short too, whereas Turenne is very tall) for his age to begin with, Turenne and him together looks like a... serious crime. BTW, Turenne just can't stop having sex with him every day. So yes, alive and well. Luckily, thanks to the werefolf's "protection", he has an inhuman stamina x). He's a nice guy btw, and just like Turenne, is impersonating both a historical French Noble (Conde) and an Historical Japanese General; but he's not a fighter at all, he's weak. He's governing one of the French's provinces since he was young.
He appears for the first time in the 6th arc, although we hear about his first time with Turenne as soon as the 3rd arc.

No, Turenne's hair color is really golden. Her daughter's hair is silver.



PS : since we're getting heavily off topic, it may be better to actually continue asking questions if you (or someone else who has some) want some answer in a dedicated thread.
I suggest the kyoukaisenjou no horizon fanclub's Q&A thread as it was created exactly for this purpose here :
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1271637&show=0#post7
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Unfortunately for us, it seems like there'a huge chance Season 3 might NEVER happen. From what I heard, most anime studios only adapt the first two Light Novels in each franchise and that's it.

Horizon more than deserves to have a continuation outside of the Light Novels but its been about 2 years already. There is still hope, though but I won't count on Season 3 coming out too soon.
 
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I will cry tears of happiness if this gets a 3rd season at any point in time before whenever I die, One of my favorite shows and its horrible that they have not really said anything to confirm or deny a season in the future.
 
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waiting for 3rd season,

2nd season final battle is just too epic with great music...
 
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scrolling down the comments on this section i read many thoughts so i'm going to display mine too.

Checking on the web for official stats season 1 & 2 sold pretty amazing (21.000k copies average season 1 & 20.600 copies average season 2), that's more than enough for a season 3 having in mind that the number needed for a sequel is near 3-4.000k copies.
Som1 foretold { Zefyris } that sales isn't the only factor in mind. I would agree in a point though mb it isn't the only factor it's the MOST serious. And trust me even with the biggest Risk having those sales you wouldn't give a damn about stopping the project.
I'm not informed about the LN's all i know is that there is material for a bunch of seasons (1-cour ofc), which is enough. Now taking things chronologically season 1 aired end of 2011 & season 2 end of 2012 plus the Game of the anime at mid 2013. Two years have already passed which means that either the have the project on Hold/stalled or there is another reason that stopped them from making a sequel (author didn't want to animate any more content etc.) though the most usual reason based on big Studios like Sunrise is that they have their schedule closed with future projects in Plan.
In most of cases a sequel is being made with approximately 1 to 4 years from it's 1st airing.(with exceptions anime titles having a sequel after 4+ years)

I guess that they will make a move soon either to END the project once & for all or announce a future continuation. ~
 
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Except that you don't make an anime sequel of a LN adaptation if the anime sold well, but if the LN sold far better than before the anime. In other words, what matters isn't how many reader of the novels were fan enough of the series to buy the BD of the adaptation, but how many new regular reader of the LN you get with it. Good BD sales mostly means that if the publishers ever comes to a studio to buy them a contract for a third season, the studio will most probably be interested. It doesn't make the publisher goes to a studio, since the reason they bought a first anime series to begin with was to boost their LN sales. Either it works, and you may expect a new anime with enough luck, or it doesn't, and then you can't expect anything.

In other words, don't look at the BD sales, compare the LN sales before and after the anime series.
IIRC the second anime season did not especially affect the LN sale, that remained mostly the same.
KyouHora is very addictive one you started reading it so the amount buyers isn't really dropping over time from what I've seen; however, it's also difficult to start, so rising the amount of readers is far more difficult than other LNs.

So the problems for a third season would be

-Publisher is probably not interested since the LN sale didn't rise that much with the second (except if I'm mistaken about the scale of the sale boost for KyouHora)
-Too big. You don't seem to realize how big it is. A common LN adaptation adapt 1,200 pages of shallow content, sometimes a bit more, in one cour. There is 2400 pages of complex content to adapt this time.
-Very difficult to adapt due to the sheer complexity of explanation that would bore the anime watcher if you give them, but will lose the watcher completely if you try to avoid them since this won't be understandable anymore.

smaller problems are also here with content that usually cannot go into anime except if you rate it 17+ or 18+
-There's a long sex scene in the middle of the 3rd arc that last over a huge amount of days
-There's a very gore, violent and blood/organs splatter duel between Mitotsudaira and another character near the end of the arc. It's one of the most gruesome fight I've read in a LN.


The only thing in kyouHora small enough to make a movie BTW is the ookami to tamashii side story. Even the side story kimitoasamade has almost 2k pages and could make almost a 2 cour series by itself. Yep, just the side story could be a 2 cour.

I'm not informed about the LN's all i know is that there is material for a bunch of seasons (1-cour ofc),

Not counting the side stories, there's enough material for 6 seasons of 2 to 3 cour each actually. If you count the side stories, then there's enough material for 7 seasons of 2 to 3 cour and one movie. Totaling with what was already made 22 cour and one movie. And it's not finished yet. And I'm talking about rushing the adaptation here. Since 3k page of complex content adapted properly ( ginga eiyuu densetsu for example) means around 100 episodes, this would actually require 600 episodes to adapt all the currently written content lol xD.
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