Guild Wars 2 is released. Have it yet?

XR said:
I emphasized the wrong point there, it was simply that the content/ endgame does not differ from 40 to 80. It is open world bosses, 5 man dungeons and PvP. All of which you can do from a very low level and the difficulty curve is very linear. Whats the reward for getting to 80? Whats the drive to actually do it? They ( Anet) said very clearly this game is all carrot and no stick. Apart from they give you the carrot at the start, pat you on the head and send you on your way.

Pointless backtracking...In wow before the spade of addons that pointed you in the direction of where you needed to go, you actually had to look at your quest log, figure out where to go what to kill. With gw2 its, run into the area, whatever is infront of you will most likely be what you either need to kill or collect. Not to mention the ridiculous spawn rates of most mobs in the game. I'm not saying that questing was especially taxing before, but at least it felt like questing. With gw2 it just doesn't, as i said the "slightest" brainpower needed. Questing does not requite much brainpower, but gw2 is taking away ANY kind of mental activity needed.

3 words, lazy, unimaginative repetitive.

Part of the sad reason people like to play mmo's is get nice shiny new bits of gear, look badass. One could argue that this is the endgame of GW2, ( as it is somewhat with games like WoW) But you have a reason to get great gear in WoW to raid, to push endgame content. In GW2 there is not that drive.

Ok we established earlier that getting shiny new gear is one of the major driving points ( apart from endgame, which is what you need the gear for) so going by that if you dont NEED the gear, and there is very little endgame that needs you to have it, whats the point of the grind whatsoever?

Dungeons in gw2 ARE NOT CHALLENGING. If you really think that GW2 dungeons are hard then you haven't pushed hard modes in wow or done any properly challenging end game content in any other MMO. Ascalonian Catacombs and Caudecus's Manor were a joke in relation to difficulty. Ok admittedly they are only level 30/40 dungeons.

So maybe i havent experienced level 80 dungeons, so maybe i havent experienced enough to comment, maybe ( although i doubt it) level 80 dungeons are unbelievably hard compared to ones at 40, but considering the difficulty curve in the rest of the game I doubt it, i shall have to give it a go and comment then. But you know what? I don't want to, i cant be assed. And you know why? because quite simply if all i have to look forward to at 80 is a harder 5 man dungeons, why bother?

Endgame to me is something that you cannot do at any other level apart from max. Something that requires teamwork, cohesion, etc.

Which my experience of the first 2 dungeons, apart from being laughably easy to dodge most things and stay alive, more often than not if everyone looks out for themselves 99% of the time you were fine ( you would just have to time your heals). You are a band of individuals fighting together rather than a group that NEEDS eachother. Relying on people can be frustrating at times but its also highly rewarding when you get it right.

Now if you enjoy it fair enough, these things are IMO ( i made it very clear to put that so little whiners wouldnt take it to heart.)

Not to mention you seemed to miss out a shed load of other points i made.

The most important one, is would you pay a sub for this game? if so how much?

Nagi- said:
The worst thing is, dungeons don't feel very rewarding after you finish them. You collect tokens for... gear that has the same stats as exotics you can get from Temple of Gods in Orr..