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Poll: What is your favorite 'dere' archetype?


Aug 18, 2012 3:22 AM
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I guess it falls somewhere between Tsundere and Kuudere. Think Makise Kurisu from Steins;Gate for one example. Though I like Misaka from Index/Railgun and Chidori from FMP, I guess they are Tsundere if anything.

Kugimiya Rie is Kugimiya Rie. Taiga is good, the others are pretty terrible (Shana is almost ok, Louise is... just kill her, please).

Haruhi is nice too though... ugh, I guess I'm just a fan of a character that opens up a bit as time goes on and isn't all deredere from the start?
 
Aug 18, 2012 3:38 AM

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Yandere, knives unattached.
 
Aug 18, 2012 3:49 AM

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What the heck? Only I and another one voted for kamidere?
 
Aug 18, 2012 4:33 AM

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Yandere....Yuno<3
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Aug 18, 2012 5:08 AM

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I think I've seen this thread before <3

Anyway, Yandere! :)
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Aug 18, 2012 5:12 AM

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I like yandere, too bad there are so few of them :<
 
Aug 18, 2012 5:17 AM

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Tsunderes are glorious.


Victory!


 
Aug 18, 2012 9:10 AM

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Deredere are damn cute, I love them.
 
Aug 18, 2012 9:20 AM

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Hitagi Senjougahara is a Kuudere, so I'll go with that.

I would choose Yandere, but they either don't last too long to get any development, or ruin already good characters(as in transforming sane characters into Yanderes near the end of the series).
 
Aug 18, 2012 9:47 AM

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VIVA LA YANDERE

 
Aug 18, 2012 9:51 AM

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Personally, I love danderes and kuuderes. They're the best characters, imo. However, so are yanderes. You have to admit that Yuno made Mirai Nikki. They're just so entertaining.

Derederes can be alright, but the rest are kinda annoying. And unless it's a special exception, I dislike tsunderes very much.
 
Aug 18, 2012 10:11 AM

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Well, that depends. If I just took all the archetypical girls I liked and counted them, I'm sure tsundere would be in the majority. Yet if I looked at all the tsundere I've seen, the ones I could put up with would definitely lose out. So with apologies to Makise, Asuka, etc., I have to say I fucking hate the archetype. Certainly, it has potential, but I'm not impressed with the basic idea. And the thing is, tons of authors don't go beyond the basic idea.
Then on the flipside, there's yandere. I've seen a few and I like batshit characters in general so I liked most of them. I'd say they're my favourite dere archetype. And yet I can't say I've seen any really impressive characters in that category. Once you get past the Holy Shit Factor, just about all the yandere I've seen were utterly shallow.

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Hitagi Senjougahara is a Kuudere, so I'll go with that.
Really? She could fall into like half of these categories.
 
Aug 18, 2012 10:18 AM
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a normal one please
 
Aug 18, 2012 2:40 PM
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SaberEdge said:
Not really, ive heard her called both Tsundere and Yandere.

LOL Yandere? She even calls herself a tsundere in the anime and the LN.
 
Aug 18, 2012 2:53 PM

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LOL Yandere? She even calls herself a tsundere in the anime and the LN.
You're really arguing with the Yandere part? Remember the part when she kidnapped him? Or the part where Araragi was seriously worried she'd kill a certain girl? Or the part where she threatened him all of her scenes?
 
Aug 18, 2012 2:56 PM
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NyuuuuSaaaan said:
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LOL Yandere? She even calls herself a tsundere in the anime and the LN.
You're really arguing with the Yandere part? Remember the part when she kidnapped him? Or the part where Araragi was seriously worried she'd kill a certain girl? Or the part where she threatened him all of her scenes?


She said she'd hug him if he was covered in feces. That sounds like something a yandere would say
 
Aug 18, 2012 3:01 PM

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Lucy is considered yandere? I don't know about the show, since it was bad, but I don't recall Lucy acting like any form of dere in the manga.


The girl examples he gave where horrible. Don't bother.
 
Aug 18, 2012 5:09 PM

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I love me some loli tsunderes.
 
Aug 18, 2012 5:12 PM

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I did not realize there were that many deres to begin with. I would have to say Yandere though, at least they are always interesting. Tsunderes are boring and it annoys me when the characters act cold and then melt later...

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Aug 18, 2012 5:20 PM

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I did not realize there were that many deres to begin with. I would have to say Yandere though, at least they are always interesting. Tsunderes are boring and it annoys me when the characters act cold and then melt later...


You probably already know this but tsunderes have actually been separate into two groups, by fans and the interwebs I presume. Basically a Type A and a Type B.

Type A are the TsunTsun. They're always pissed off most of the time, your generic Kugimiya Rie tsundere usually falls into this category.

Then there are the Type B, they're mostly normal most of the time and usually require something to trigger their "tsun" or "harsh mood". I find this trait more similar among male characters than female.

So what I'm basically saying is, not all tsunderes require the melting.
 
Aug 18, 2012 5:26 PM

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@Paul
Yes I am aware. I am not a huge fan of romance anime though and most dere types are romance archetypes. I would never go into an anime because of the dere type, however I can deal with most characters.

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Aug 18, 2012 5:34 PM
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@Paul

If type A's are the tsuntsun, does that mean that type B's are the deredere?
 
Aug 18, 2012 5:36 PM

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@Paul

If type A's are the tsuntsun, does that mean that type B's are the deredere?


Pretty much but not limited to being constant lovey dovey as their default mood.
 
Aug 18, 2012 5:42 PM

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Definitely kuuderes and danderes.
 
Aug 18, 2012 6:21 PM

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i went with Deredere (didn't even know there was such a term for it) otherwise i would have gone with Kuudere.

 
Aug 18, 2012 6:50 PM

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VIVA LA YANDERE



This guy's got it.
 
Aug 18, 2012 7:04 PM

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Tough choice, although I'd have to say either Deredere because you'd want to meet a girl like that in real life, or Yandere just because they're usually good looking and they make the plot more interesting.
 
Aug 18, 2012 7:24 PM

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1.Tsundere
2.Dandere

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Aug 18, 2012 10:50 PM

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Tsundere they just catch my eye a lot more.
 
Aug 19, 2012 12:50 AM

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Paul said:
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@Paul

If type A's are the tsuntsun, does that mean that type B's are the deredere?


Pretty much but not limited to being constant lovey dovey as their default mood.


Type B are closer to a more normal behavior that only acts tsun in certain situations but not as a default pattern to every thing. Many times their tsun has a reason too since the guy is teasing them. This tsundere are not like those Kugimiya Rie lolis that never shut-up and hit people and their dere is more honest. They are more mature and don't act all tsun after showing little affection(dere) to hide themselves because they are too immature to show their feelings.
Examples are amazing characters like Makise Kurisu and Isayama Yomi.
 
Aug 19, 2012 1:50 AM

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Monad said:
Paul said:
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@Paul

If type A's are the tsuntsun, does that mean that type B's are the deredere?


Pretty much but not limited to being constant lovey dovey as their default mood.


Type B are closer to a more normal behavior that only acts tsun in certain situations but not as a default pattern to every thing. Many times their tsun has a reason too since the guy is teasing them. This tsundere are not like those Kugimiya Rie lolis that never shut-up and hit people and their dere is more honest. They are more mature and don't act all tsun after showing little affection(dere) to hide themselves because they are too immature to show their feelings.
Examples are amazing characters like Makise Kurisu and Isayama Yomi.


Ah yes Makise Kurisu...is a great tsundere...
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Aug 19, 2012 9:34 PM
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LOL Yandere? She even calls herself a tsundere in the anime and the LN.
You're really arguing with the Yandere part? Remember the part when she kidnapped him? Or the part where Araragi was seriously worried she'd kill a certain girl? Or the part where she threatened him all of her scenes?

Meh, all tsundere. Watch Yuno for actual yandere behaviour.
 
Aug 19, 2012 9:43 PM

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I find that the application of the _____dere fad has gotten a bit out of hand. Why does the fanbase seem so intent on classifying every character like this when the basic descriptions are so limited? And to that end it seems like people add a new _____dere when nothing else from jargon can apply. I've found it at least uncommon for tsundere and kuudere to overlap as the cast member in question need not necessarily kick your face in or be cynical/blunt. And dandare, in all honesty, seems more like a variant on the kuudere.

So what else are we going to add to the dictionary? Kamidere? Genkidere? Sugoidere? This whole phenomenon is just ridiculous. @_@
 
Aug 19, 2012 9:48 PM
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It makes it easier to point out a character's traits and criticize them. I think. Either that, or it's that one thing where people just like to group and categorize things.
 
Aug 19, 2012 9:53 PM

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Shocked said:
@Akito_Kinomoto

It makes it easier to point out a character's traits and criticize them. I think. Either that, or it's that one thing where people just like to group and categorize things.

I'm aware of the first half of your statement. I think the second part applies a lot more though. :S
 
Aug 19, 2012 10:03 PM

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Tsundere!! I got to have my Rin Tohsaka and Misaka Mikoto!!

Although as said before there is more to the character. I just hate it when people say ''It's just a typical *enter character category*"

Really annoying

 
Aug 20, 2012 6:44 PM

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Thanks, Yvese, for posting a detailed explanation about "dere" archetypes. I learned a lot.
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Aug 20, 2012 6:48 PM
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sl8hocus said:
Voted for Yandere: not because I really like those, but because I can relate.


wait, what?
 
Aug 20, 2012 6:52 PM

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I like normal hoes, not bipolar hoes.
 
Aug 20, 2012 6:53 PM
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Yandere all the way
 
Aug 21, 2012 2:05 PM

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Yandere>Tsundere> rest for me.
Yandere are like even better than Tsundere because:

We can see so much tsundere, that the genre becomes boring after some times (like shonen, well imo)
Yandere prove their love by being much more than just words and slapsticks. And usually have a real backstory as a reason for that.

Well, I just love Yandere, much more attaching than basic Tsundere...

 
Sep 1, 2012 10:57 PM

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Yandere. Let's be honest here, everyone loves the crazy bitches.

I can't be the only one here who got really happy when they saw Gasai Yuno with a katana kinda late in Mirai Nikki, right? Right?

Okay fine maybe I'm weird whatever xP
 
Sep 1, 2012 11:56 PM

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Yandere. Let's be honest here, everyone loves the crazy bitches

but not in real life ;)
 
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Kuudere, though I love dandere characters too.
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Sep 2, 2012 12:33 AM

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As long as the Tsundere has twin tails and knee-socks, I'm all for it.
 
Sep 2, 2012 8:50 AM

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Kuudere!

Kanade Tachibana and Homura Akemi for example :D
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Sep 2, 2012 9:11 AM

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Tsundere are fine, except Rie Kugimiya's ones. ( Seen too often, overdose ;( )
 
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Yandere Dai-ichi!!!
 
Sep 2, 2012 12:25 PM

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Tsundere still wins, I see.
 
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Yandere
 
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