Sword Art Online (light novel)
Tarextherex said: kamikaze_1996 said: Uberchu said: Solkiskey said: This again? For fuck's sake, why should it matter if SAO is overrated or not? If you like it, then good for you. If you don't like it, then too bad. It's that simple. Also, lol mal rankings. Well, I don't really care about ratings (one of my favorite anime, High School DxD, is rated poorly) but many people DO base what they're going to watch on ratings. So in a way, a higher rating encourages more people to watch. And the rating is just an example of too much hype. Go to the "Favorite Summer 2012 Anime So Far" thread and almost everyone put down SAO. i can sort of understand you ive watched DXD and read the LN, i loved the LN, its very good, one of my favourites but i personally thought the anime was very crap compared to the LN, but it surprised me that the ending was so good and was animated well, but it doesn't change the fact that it was a bit boring with too much ecchi and fanservice which is why people rated it lower, even though the ending was good, it doesn't change the fact that the anime had its bad points basically what im trying to say is that just because its rated lower or higher doesn't always mean its significantly better, it just means that it appeals to more people and more people enjoy it, so you shouldn't call it overrated when its a fact that many people actually enjoy it also i don't think you realise that the anime rankings have been balancing out but still remains in the top 100, i think thats proof enough that it isn't overrated because if it was, the majority of people who are now starting watch this would rate it lower and it would drop significantly also again, i think its unfair to say SAO is overrated when its only reached episode 6, steins gate was mediocre until 12 but it still remained high and considering ive read the LN and i know that the main story starts at 8, i am refraining myself from judging the anime until that episode lolno SAO is almost as bad as Guilty Crown I take that as compliment. Until now, i cannot understand why people hate guilty crown, other than ending, i only found 1 minor plothole so far. A little overrated maybe, but hey, do you like anime based on ranking? many good anime are on 7.xx ranking, but they are good. Also, try to write, not animate all 100 floor stories, the hometown, monster, and so on. I bet you will recycle a lot of idea when we reach floor 90++. |
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Uberchu said: SAO is ridiculously overrated. Nothing it has done warrants its status. There have been barely any action scenes, the short stories don't have as much impact without prior reading of the light novel and the pacing is horribly off. I doubt the main story is truly that good to make up for this. I mean, just look at the score. 8.61? Seriously? Kokoro Connect, an anime that (currently) has a better and more engaging plot, barely gets an 8. Koboro connect? let me just go remember the goods from the back of my mind. |
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BlackListHunter said: After watching episode 1, I was amazed by the potentials it had. I recommended the serie to a few gamebuddies who don't usually watch anime. I was sure this anime would be the next biggest thing. episode 1 + the ranking of the novel made me all hyped over this anime. believe me, i'm not a hater but episode 2 till 6 was (below) average IMO. I didn't enjoy ANY episode at all.same goes for most of my friends. But the ranking of the anime is still high ss fuck. So is it because most people who rated it that high did it because they already read the novel and know that it's going to get awesome?, or because you really think this anime is good up until now. Go visit a discussion thread and then ask me if this anime is overrated. Stuffed with nothing but people complaining. |
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| I don't think episode 2 till 6 deserve the ranking, although I love those parts in the novel, SAO's anime hasn't done a good job. But I still believe it will be better when it goes to the main story, maybe A-1 Pictures will work hard then. |
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| after the first episode 2 had abit hope for it. but episode for episode it annoyed me more and more because all what they did in the anime was a waste of time. like the 2 episode about that group of ppl and that guild master n her husband who killed her. WTF ??? why has that to be in the anime and why 2 episodes? when i were in such a situation i would try my best to clear stage 100 and GTFO. another overhyped anime which soon will be forgotten. 5/10 .oh and i honestly pity the people who give SAO 9/10 or even 8/10 cause this makes the real 8-9/10 look bad. i am about drop this. its not worthy anymore. |
Neizaru said: I don't belive there is a clear right or wrong when it comes to rating shows, it's a subjective matter after all. But I think people can't get over their own hype and realize this show is nowhere near as great as they want it to be. Rather than adjusting scores I'd have everyone realize they are deceiving themselves :) Thus it is overrated, since few viewers have accepted the simple truth :) You don't believe there is a clear right and wrong but everyone that rated this highly is wrong because they are deluded into thinking it's a good show. Fucking hypocrite. At site that takes ratings from anyone and averages them together can't produce an overrated show. The resulting averages is the opinion of the community and if the community is delusion about this one product then they are delusional about them all, which evens the field. |
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Neizaru said: everyone that rated this highly is wrong because they are deluded There is no real rule how to score "properly". E.g if someone rates it great because he is enjoying it means he's wrong? He's wrong about enjoying it greatly? The isssue is individual tastes have been distorted by the massive hype (maybe result of marketing efforts?). Overhyped would be more accurate than overrated, but the point is the same. Get it know? The community isn't rating based on hype they are rating based on what was seen. Hype might have been a reason if this conversation took place at the end of last season and there were 0 episodes shown but that's not the case now. The ratings and averages are MAL are all self-correcting based on what the viewers currently think of the show. |
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Shaduge said: fact is, overrated doesn't even suffice to describe how overrated this show is The term overrated is underrated for this show. |
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| I am enjoying Sword Art Online more than any other anime atm, great animation and story, and yes I am watching several other anime series >_> |
| I'm not a SAO LN reader, or not yet. But I don't consider this as a show that doesn't deserve to not be watched. I'm pretty sure that this anime would not be as popular as it is if the LN never existed. But if I consider SAO as an anime original, I would still watch it and I find that it's doing a pretty good job. It would still be the series that I would put it in my priority to watch weekly. But it's true that I find it a bit overrated for the first 7 episodes, but at the same time, you can't really make a fuss of it since it hasn't ended, maybe the second half will be very good? |
| Considering episodes up until episode 7, this anime is really overrated. I actually still enjoy it but after episode 2, episodes started to be useless. |
| Lol another "the show's numbers aren't at a place where I want them to be" kind of thread. I sometimes wonder how 50 shades of grey is the best selling novel ever, but on the other hand, I don't give a damn about it. You should learn to let it go too. |
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plushkin said: Lol another "the show's numbers aren't at a place where I want them to be" kind of thread. I sometimes wonder how 50 shades of grey is the best selling novel ever, but on the other hand, I don't give a damn about it. You should learn to let it go too. Nah I want the anime that's recommended most to me to be good, that's why we need stuff like these out of the picture :P |
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| as long as you enjoy the anime, it doesn't matter what rating it gets.. though I guess some rating can help you decide to watch something or not, but good feed back must mean its good no? |
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| At the moment...hell yes. It was ranked #44 before it even fucking aired. |
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BloodRequiem said: At the moment...hell yes. It was ranked #44 before it even fucking aired. not true at all, the ranking had only reached around 70 on the first episode then increased to 32 where it started to decrease to the 40s and now 50s |
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Mikasa said: plushkin said: Lol another "the show's numbers aren't at a place where I want them to be" kind of thread. I sometimes wonder how 50 shades of grey is the best selling novel ever, but on the other hand, I don't give a damn about it. You should learn to let it go too. Nah I want the anime that's recommended most to me to be good, that's why we need stuff like these out of the picture :P Then you're going to have to stop people that like(where is appears on the ratings page has nothing to do with it) this anime from making recommendations for it. |
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kamikaze_1996 said: BloodRequiem said: At the moment...hell yes. It was ranked #44 before it even fucking aired. not true at all, the ranking had only reached around 70 on the first episode then increased to 32 where it started to decrease to the 40s and now 50s Still proves my point. |
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Anime_Name said: Mikasa said: plushkin said: Lol another "the show's numbers aren't at a place where I want them to be" kind of thread. I sometimes wonder how 50 shades of grey is the best selling novel ever, but on the other hand, I don't give a damn about it. You should learn to let it go too. Nah I want the anime that's recommended most to me to be good, that's why we need stuff like these out of the picture :P Then you're going to have to stop people that like(where is appears on the ratings page has nothing to do with it) this anime from making recommendations for it. Indeed |
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BloodRequiem said: kamikaze_1996 said: BloodRequiem said: At the moment...hell yes. It was ranked #44 before it even fucking aired. not true at all, the ranking had only reached around 70 on the first episode then increased to 32 where it started to decrease to the 40s and now 50s Still proves my point. It proves your point wrong. |
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| Yeah it's probably overrated cause the side stories were quite boring but is it bad? NOpe. It's ok, art animation and everything is nice. However there are plenty of better shows |
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Andyis said: Yeah it's probably overrated cause the side stories were quite boring but is it bad? NOpe. It's ok, art animation and everything is nice. However there are plenty of better shows Do you understand what overrated means? Why would it be overrated because the side stories are bad and boring? |
| Isn't everything technically overrated? |
Anime_Name said: BloodRequiem said: kamikaze_1996 said: BloodRequiem said: At the moment...hell yes. It was ranked #44 before it even fucking aired. not true at all, the ranking had only reached around 70 on the first episode then increased to 32 where it started to decrease to the 40s and now 50s Still proves my point. It proves your point wrong. My point is that SAO is overrated because it was ranked very high before it aired, not that it's ranking was exactly #44. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
BloodRequiem said: Anime_Name said: BloodRequiem said: kamikaze_1996 said: BloodRequiem said: At the moment...hell yes. It was ranked #44 before it even fucking aired. not true at all, the ranking had only reached around 70 on the first episode then increased to 32 where it started to decrease to the 40s and now 50s Still proves my point. It proves your point wrong. My point is that SAO is overrated because it was ranked very high before it aired, not that it's ranking was exactly #44. and im saying your wrong, it only started to get to a high rank rank after episode 1, it never had a high rank before it aired |
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| So far the pacing has been subpar, but what can you expect with them squishing 2 volumes into the first season? IMO, the side stories should've been released as an OVA, so that the producers could properly take the time to get through the SAO arc in detail. I'm still watching it just for the fact that it is sure to get better, but for the time being I'm content with the filler. |
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kamikaze_1996 said: BloodRequiem said: Anime_Name said: BloodRequiem said: kamikaze_1996 said: BloodRequiem said: At the moment...hell yes. It was ranked #44 before it even fucking aired. not true at all, the ranking had only reached around 70 on the first episode then increased to 32 where it started to decrease to the 40s and now 50s Still proves my point. It proves your point wrong. My point is that SAO is overrated because it was ranked very high before it aired, not that it's ranking was exactly #44. and im saying your wrong, it only started to get to a high rank rank after episode 1, it never had a high rank before it aired I can show you some screenshots but I don't have a photobucket account. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
| There is so much stuff to cover in the light novel that it becomes unrealistic to cover it all up. I would prefer if they could slow it down a bit through |
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epicscreator said: Pretty much. I think overrated is pretty overrated.Isn't everything technically overrated? |
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BloodRequiem said: I can show you some screenshots but I don't have a photobucket account. then your point is invalid until you do |
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| I dunno about overrated, but this is easily one of the most disappointing anime I have ever watched. Granted, it's not done yet, but I have yet to see an episode as engaging or interesting as episode 1. Since then, it's been cheap melodrama, harem hijinks, and emo-ness. |
kamikaze_1996 said: BloodRequiem said: I can show you some screenshots but I don't have a photobucket account. then your point is invalid until you do It is overrated but you seem to have the idea that overrated automatically means shit. |
And this was 2 weeks before the first episode. Already #157 out of around 6000 which beat the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya that aired 6 years ago. Not saying Haruhi is good but it had 6 years worth of judgement from people who actually watched it.BloodRequiemAug 18, 2012 8:19 PM
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BloodRequiem said: kamikaze_1996 said: BloodRequiem said: I can show you some screenshots but I don't have a photobucket account. then your point is invalid until you do It is overrated but you seem to have the idea that overrated automatically means shit. dafuq, it says currently airing, so how could it be two weeks before the first ep when it aired already? can you tell me how it was overrated before it even aired? and give a pic where its rated high when it hasn't aired |
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Anime_Name said: Neizaru said: I don't belive there is a clear right or wrong when it comes to rating shows, it's a subjective matter after all. But I think people can't get over their own hype and realize this show is nowhere near as great as they want it to be. Rather than adjusting scores I'd have everyone realize they are deceiving themselves :) Thus it is overrated, since few viewers have accepted the simple truth :) You don't believe there is a clear right and wrong but everyone that rated this highly is wrong because they are deluded into thinking it's a good show. Fucking hypocrite. At site that takes ratings from anyone and averages them together can't produce an overrated show. The resulting averages is the opinion of the community and if the community is delusion about this one product then they are delusional about them all, which evens the field. I suppose 50 Shades of Grey and Twilight are quality books because lots of people bought them right? In the end, ratings are meaningless, but they do help in encouraging others to watch an anime. Also, you're missing the point of why we're using the rating. It's just an example of the hype. Other people and I can bring other examples if needed. And why so harsh? Is it possible that, gasp, people have a different opinion? |
| As someone who hasn't read the books and is watching an anime about an online MMO where people die when they die in game, I'm thoroughly enjoying this. It has action, adventure, drama, romance, etc. Everything I need in an anime to enjoy it. If you're going to slam it for pacing and shit based on the novels, you shouldn't because this isn't the novel. This is the anime adaptation of the novel. It is NOT going to be word for word, arc for arc exactly as the novel was. |
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Uberchu said: Anime_Name said: Neizaru said: I don't belive there is a clear right or wrong when it comes to rating shows, it's a subjective matter after all. But I think people can't get over their own hype and realize this show is nowhere near as great as they want it to be. Rather than adjusting scores I'd have everyone realize they are deceiving themselves :) Thus it is overrated, since few viewers have accepted the simple truth :) You don't believe there is a clear right and wrong but everyone that rated this highly is wrong because they are deluded into thinking it's a good show. Fucking hypocrite. At site that takes ratings from anyone and averages them together can't produce an overrated show. The resulting averages is the opinion of the community and if the community is delusion about this one product then they are delusional about them all, which evens the field. I suppose 50 Shades of Grey and Twilight are quality books because lots of people bought them right? In the end, ratings are meaningless, but they do help in encouraging others to watch an anime. Also, you're missing the point of why we're using the rating. It's just an example of the hype. Other people and I can bring other examples if needed. And why so harsh? Is it possible that, gasp, people have a different opinion? You just said that ratings are meaningless, but they encourage others to watch an anime, isn't that a meaning. The ratings are there to show you an idea about how good the anime is based on how everyone else rates the anime. I think it might be the rating systems fault, like 7 or 8 is my average score for an anime, but really 5 on the scale is supposed to be average. I agree with Anime_Name, it isn't overrated because it takes everyone's score even the people who hate the score that it's given and rate it a 1 and averages it. All shows have people who like it or hate it for different reasons, thus all shows are equal. Almost all shows have an original source that some people rate the anime early because. |
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| Kinda overrated but hoping that the main story will make up for it. Hoping for the best for this season is already a disappointment I don't want this series to bomb too. |
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IntroverTurtle said: Uberchu said: Anime_Name said: Neizaru said: I don't belive there is a clear right or wrong when it comes to rating shows, it's a subjective matter after all. But I think people can't get over their own hype and realize this show is nowhere near as great as they want it to be. Rather than adjusting scores I'd have everyone realize they are deceiving themselves :) Thus it is overrated, since few viewers have accepted the simple truth :) You don't believe there is a clear right and wrong but everyone that rated this highly is wrong because they are deluded into thinking it's a good show. Fucking hypocrite. At site that takes ratings from anyone and averages them together can't produce an overrated show. The resulting averages is the opinion of the community and if the community is delusion about this one product then they are delusional about them all, which evens the field. I suppose 50 Shades of Grey and Twilight are quality books because lots of people bought them right? In the end, ratings are meaningless, but they do help in encouraging others to watch an anime. Also, you're missing the point of why we're using the rating. It's just an example of the hype. Other people and I can bring other examples if needed. And why so harsh? Is it possible that, gasp, people have a different opinion? You just said that ratings are meaningless, but they encourage others to watch an anime, isn't that a meaning. The ratings are there to show you an idea about how good the anime is based on how everyone else rates the anime. I think it might be the rating systems fault, like 7 or 8 is my average score for an anime, but really 5 on the scale is supposed to be average. I agree with Anime_Name, it isn't overrated because it takes everyone's score even the people who hate the score that it's given and rate it a 1 and averages it. All shows have people who like it or hate it for different reasons, thus all shows are equal. Almost all shows have an original source that some people rate the anime early because. Let me specify. Ratings are meaningless for judging the QUALITY of the work. However, a lot of people don't subscribe to that point of view. And my example still stands, because if 50 Shades of Grey and Twilight weren't quality series, how did they sell? |
Uberchu said: IntroverTurtle said: Uberchu said: Anime_Name said: Neizaru said: I don't belive there is a clear right or wrong when it comes to rating shows, it's a subjective matter after all. But I think people can't get over their own hype and realize this show is nowhere near as great as they want it to be. Rather than adjusting scores I'd have everyone realize they are deceiving themselves :) Thus it is overrated, since few viewers have accepted the simple truth :) You don't believe there is a clear right and wrong but everyone that rated this highly is wrong because they are deluded into thinking it's a good show. Fucking hypocrite. At site that takes ratings from anyone and averages them together can't produce an overrated show. The resulting averages is the opinion of the community and if the community is delusion about this one product then they are delusional about them all, which evens the field. I suppose 50 Shades of Grey and Twilight are quality books because lots of people bought them right? In the end, ratings are meaningless, but they do help in encouraging others to watch an anime. Also, you're missing the point of why we're using the rating. It's just an example of the hype. Other people and I can bring other examples if needed. And why so harsh? Is it possible that, gasp, people have a different opinion? You just said that ratings are meaningless, but they encourage others to watch an anime, isn't that a meaning. The ratings are there to show you an idea about how good the anime is based on how everyone else rates the anime. I think it might be the rating systems fault, like 7 or 8 is my average score for an anime, but really 5 on the scale is supposed to be average. I agree with Anime_Name, it isn't overrated because it takes everyone's score even the people who hate the score that it's given and rate it a 1 and averages it. All shows have people who like it or hate it for different reasons, thus all shows are equal. Almost all shows have an original source that some people rate the anime early because. Let me specify. Ratings are meaningless for judging the QUALITY of the work. However, a lot of people don't subscribe to that point of view. And my example still stands, because if 50 Shades of Grey and Twilight weren't quality series, how did they sell? That's what reviews are for, and there are reviews for it already, on the front page a 9 and a 4, two extremely different sides, one that loves the anime and one that doesn't. Maybe they are good books, enough to captivate millions of people into reading them and loving them, then no matter how bad the writing may be, then it is considered a good book to them. |
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| Well everyone has different opinion I think. Personally, I will say it's too early to give SAO a score of 8.6 only after 7episode, and yes it is overrated up to the current episode. I enjoy the show so far, as a novel reader I think they did a good(not great) job to adapt the novel into an anime show. It is watchable and entertaining. But I would prefer a few more episode before decide to give the show a solid score. |
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