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Aug 11, 2012 10:46 AM

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Wow, this arc is going to be awesome. I was skeptical at the beginning of the EP, as I got spoiled so bad on the last episode's topic *cough cough*.

Inaba's true desire at the beginning of the episode is totally questionable. Did she want to have ... that ... with Taichi? I didn't buy the story that she had that feeling just because she were looking at porn. :P

While we didn't see Yui very much in this EP, I still think that her power to destroy that table was totally impressive. I was expected Iori to walked into the room to see the scene as well, as I would love to see how she would react, instead of how Yui reacted.

Toward the end of the episode, I was disappointed that Iori told Taichi that they're going to keep a distance. WTF Iori??? If you guys love each other and your 'true desire' kick in, what could possibly happened? (*cough cough* if you know what i mean *cough* *cough*) ... It's kinda sad that even Taichi was all for her, and confessed that he likes her the way she is, she still acting that way. Hoever, Iori confused me whether she was speaking out from her true desire or actually that's actually herself who asked that question, as she was speaking in a different tone after she hung up.

From the preview. Next episode is going to be *awesome*. A little more drama, and seems like a lot more love complex. If Inaba really loves Taichi, I would hope that it'll explode soon. Hell, I would thought that Iori x Taichi would be more sweet than this, so Inaba would explode her feeling on Taichi, plus a little more jealousy. :P

The ED suggested me that this is going to be Inaba's arc, with everything focused on her. Kinda disappoint for me (I was rooted for Iori) but overall the ED is nicely done. I like the music as well.

(I haven't read the light novel, so please don't spoil me.)

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Aug 11, 2012 10:50 AM

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One more note - Inaba made me worried when she laid out all the plans before asked everyone to leave, and turned around leaning against the door. Did she worried that her love to Taichi would be exposed?

kiwak said:
I kinda felt sad when they changed the ED. I really liked the previous one and was REALLY looking forward to it.
Yeah, I anticipated the change to the ED because everyone were talking about the end of arc, and the ED was totally focused on the mind swapping (hence, the white ball.)

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Aug 11, 2012 10:52 AM
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Major drama coming up... I am excited both to see Iori's development as a character and Taich x Inaba's development. Either Taichi x Iori is gonna stay intact or Taichi x Inaba happens; either way will be VERY messy. Personally I am favoring Taichi x Inaba because Iori doesn't know herself and by nature her feelings for Taich well, whereas we see that Inaba sincerely likes Taichi.

And IMO Inaba looking at porn story was BS cover-up for Iori's sake.
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So Iori made the big mistake of deciding to hold back as well. Stupid. If you dont get whats given to you, you will lose it. Love is not a spectarors sport, was that the moto on Suzuka? So true.
Im sad, cose I actually like Iori a lot more than Inaba. Ill never understand what most of you guys like about agressive and manipulative girls, but thats the trend. Being a good timid girl is the sure way to be on the losing end of most love triangles lately :(
Aug 11, 2012 10:57 AM

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Maybe this time around we'll finally get more dirt on Aoki, whos been horribly sidelined in the last arc. But I'm not holding my breath either in this arc.

At least Iori is using this latest turn of events into something positive.

Dang, Yui, breaking a table, so much anger.

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The ED suggested me that this is going to be Inaba's arc, with everything focused on her. Kinda disappoint for me (I was rooted for Iori) but overall the ED is nicely done. I like the music as well.


God, I hope not, because I want developement for the guys and not waste the next 4-5 eps. on one character. >:(
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AlexGK said:
So Iori made the big mistake of deciding to hold back as well. Stupid. If you dont get whats given to you, you will lose it. Love is not a spectarors sport, was that the moto on Suzuka? So true.
Im sad, cose I actually like Iori a lot more than Inaba. Ill never understand what most of you guys like about agressive and manipulative girls, but thats the trend. Being a good timid girl is the sure way to be on the losing end of most love triangles lately :(


I agree, I like Iori more (though I dont share the dislike you have for Inaba) but I feel that won't be the case, as I spelled out before. I personally think Iori is kawaii ;)
Aug 11, 2012 10:58 AM

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AlexGK said:
So Iori made the big mistake of deciding to hold back as well. Stupid. If you dont get whats given to you, you will lose it. Love is not a spectarors sport, was that the moto on Suzuka? So true.
So true .. I glad that there's someone else that were disappointed like I did. Damn ...

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Im sad, cose I actually like Iori a lot more than Inaba. Ill never understand what most of you guys like about agressive and manipulative girls, but thats the trend. Being a good timid girl is the sure way to be on the losing end of most love triangles lately :(
I'm rooted for Iori x Taichi as well, and that's a bad move from her part :(

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Aug 11, 2012 11:00 AM

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To bad it probably would be 12-13 eps. I really hope for more(there are 6 volumes of LN for mnow if I remember right). But preoders are quite good so far so let's hope for S2 sometime
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To bad it probably would be 12-13 eps. I really hope for more(there are 6 volumes of LN for mnow if I remember right). But preoders are quite good so far so let's hope for S2 sometime


From what I heard it's going to be around 17 episodes? Though this hasn't been confirmed yet.

Another really great episode. I can't wait to see what ends up happening to everyone because of this. Hopefully we'll get to see more of Iori's true self, but I'm also hoping they focus more on Yui and Aoki in this arc as well.

Looking forward to next week's episode.
Aug 11, 2012 11:11 AM
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That's not what I meant my point being is that we don't know what is considered your "true desire" is something that you desire for the moment or something that is apart of your nature but, you shy away from. I didn't mean what happened between Taichi and, nagase was small by any means it probably was very hard for considering her desire and, the fact that it was revealed to him.
Ah! Sorry about that!
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This is definitely one of the best shows of the season in my view. Looking forward to what will develop in this arc.

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Maybe this time around we'll finally get more dirt on Aoki, whos been horribly sidelined in the last arc. But I'm not holding my breath either in this arc.


I just realized that Aoki is really the least developed character out of all of them. Like you said, it's doubtful that it will happen over the next couple of episodes.
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This is definitely one of the best shows of the season in my view. Looking forward to what will develop in this arc.

Jmac said:
Maybe this time around we'll finally get more dirt on Aoki, whos been horribly sidelined in the last arc. But I'm not holding my breath either in this arc.


I just realized that Aoki is really the least developed character out of all of them. Like you said, it's doubtful that it will happen over the next couple of episodes.

I know right!? But I'm starting to get this impression that there's really nothing wrong with him and he's the normal person of the group.
Aug 11, 2012 11:21 AM

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Heartseed is dangerous...
If this was real life, and I were to 'release my inner desires', I would find myself in jail pretty fast. LOL!
Aug 11, 2012 11:28 AM
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Jmac said:
TravSavage said:
This is definitely one of the best shows of the season in my view. Looking forward to what will develop in this arc.

Jmac said:
Maybe this time around we'll finally get more dirt on Aoki, whos been horribly sidelined in the last arc. But I'm not holding my breath either in this arc.


I just realized that Aoki is really the least developed character out of all of them. Like you said, it's doubtful that it will happen over the next couple of episodes.

I know right!? But I'm starting to get this impression that there's really nothing wrong with him and he's the normal person of the group.


but in my opinion Aoki is wiser than taichi that still cant be true to himselves

and Yui anger only indicated that Yui actually fall for taichi, so if Inaban x Taichi gonna be in the final couple

then not only Iori gonna be hurt, but also Yui, and Aoki too since when he loves Yui sincerely, in Yui heart always gonna be Taichi

so, I only see good ending for taichi and taichi partner and the rest gonna be suffer
Aug 11, 2012 11:50 AM

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I liked the old ending better but the ending shows that this arc is gonna be more focused on Inaba compared to the last one which shows more of Iori. Aoki might actually get his spotlight this time though since Yui will get hit hard on this arc but this time he should be the one who supports her.
And one more thing, Inaba > Iori
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Aug 11, 2012 11:50 AM

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AMAZING :O Noo, I want to watch more :&
Can't wait till next episode !!

I broke up with my boyfriend yesterday, so Iori and Taichi are kinda annoying me -.- But they're still so adorable <3 I just can't help but feel bad for Inaba, she *obviously* loves Taichi, and she seems to be having problems with trusting everybody again. :/ And it looks like Taichi chews her out about it next episode. That'll hurt for her. Ouch.

Heartseed is so beaast. He toys with my emotions as well >__<" Uwaa! Kokoro Connect is too good. Too good <33333

If my hidden desires were released... .____. Lol. I'd be expelled in a heartbeat XD
Aug 11, 2012 11:52 AM

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Inaba was HOT. Poor Inaba I feel like she will be the main target this arc. The romance between Taichi and Iori </3

And new ending, wow. This Anime just keeps on impressing me.

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Hoping for heartseed to get massacred at the end*
Aug 11, 2012 11:53 AM

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AshtonClaude said:
Jmac said:
TravSavage said:
This is definitely one of the best shows of the season in my view. Looking forward to what will develop in this arc.

Jmac said:
Maybe this time around we'll finally get more dirt on Aoki, whos been horribly sidelined in the last arc. But I'm not holding my breath either in this arc.


I just realized that Aoki is really the least developed character out of all of them. Like you said, it's doubtful that it will happen over the next couple of episodes.

I know right!? But I'm starting to get this impression that there's really nothing wrong with him and he's the normal person of the group.


but in my opinion Aoki is wiser than taichi that still cant be true to himselves

and Yui anger only indicated that Yui actually fall for taichi, so if Inaban x Taichi gonna be in the final couple

then not only Iori gonna be hurt, but also Yui, and Aoki too since when he loves Yui sincerely, in Yui heart always gonna be Taichi

so, I only see good ending for taichi and taichi partner and the rest gonna be suffer

Meh, I would agree with you, only if I hadn't spoiled myself already with the light novels and already know whats to come.

But I will agree with you that Aoki is more perceptive than people give him credit.
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Im sad, cose I actually like Iori a lot more than Inaba. Ill never understand what most of you guys like about agressive and manipulative girls, but thats the trend. Being a good timid girl is the sure way to be on the losing end of most love triangles lately :(
I'm rooted for Iori x Taichi as well, and that's a bad move from her part :(

Uwaa~ How is Inaba agressive and manipulative?!
Aug 11, 2012 12:00 PM
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Jmac said:
But I'm starting to get this impression that there's really nothing wrong with Aoki and he's the normal person of the group.

Whoa there, just because you've never been traumatized doesn't mean your issues don't matter. Everyone has problems, regardless of whether you're leading a good life or a bad one. They may not all be of the same intensity but they're there and no-one leads a life where they're ok with everything. There's a million things that could bother a character, none of which would require any kind of past trauma.
If there's really nothing in Aoki's character that's worth looking into, then the writer should've thought of something, because treating 1/5 of the cast like that is just not good storytelling.
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Wow this arc looks promising :D
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I'm so excited for this arc because it focuses on Inaban as a character and she's my favorite of the bunch! I'm rooting for TaichiXInaba so seeing her trying to make a move on him was awesome and poor Taichi just didn't know what to make of it!

This arc is definitely going to be hardest for Inaba. I say this cause I am a lot like Inaba, I don't want people to know what I'm thinking or what my desires are so I mostly just keep it inside and to have all of those released would be. . . terrifying. And of course Inaba was already struggling with trust issues in the previous arc so that's going to be difficult.

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Toward the end of the episode, I was disappointed that Iori told Taichi that they're going to keep a distance. WTF Iori??? If you guys love each other and your 'true desire' kick in, what could possibly happened? (*cough cough* if you know what i mean *cough* *cough*)


NO! It's a very good thing Iori was all like 'let's keep our distance for now due to the act out desire thing' and I don't say this just because I'm a InabaXTaichi supporter but because well, sex makes babies! And I don't want Iori-chan to be a teenage mom. This isn't some late afternoon soap opera ^.^'
Aug 11, 2012 12:35 PM

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I want Iori and Taichi together, but Inaba will screw this up it the "unleashed desire".
Aug 11, 2012 12:45 PM
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The stress for Inaba regarding Taichi has been steadily growing even before this new arc. With her continuing to push him towards Iori, it's really taking a toll on her mentally and physically.

She's seeping with sexual tension. First she finds out Taichi finds her attractive enough to wank to. Next she learns that her body was used by Iori to kiss him. I'm sure deep down she's been asking herself "When is it my turn?" So I don't find it so surprising that she put the moves on Taichi this episode. Her feelings will be amplified especially when trying so hard to keep them bottled up.

She gets what she wants!
Aug 11, 2012 12:46 PM

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But I'm starting to get this impression that there's really nothing wrong with Aoki and he's the normal person of the group.

Whoa there, just because you've never been traumatized doesn't mean your issues don't matter. Everyone has problems, regardless of whether you're leading a good life or a bad one. They may not all be of the same intensity but they're there and no-one leads a life where they're ok with everything. There's a million things that could bother a character, none of which would require any kind of past trauma.
If there's really nothing in Aoki's character that's worth looking into, then the writer should've thought of something, because treating 1/5 of the cast like that is just not good storytelling.


Easy killer. I agree with you in reality that can be most definitely be the case, but in a work of fiction I'm going to have to disagree with you.

When I said Aoki was 'normal' I used it in the sense that based on past series that followed the same idioms, tropes, and cliches. Aoki is normal because he may not have a messed past or some dark ulterior motive, thus won't get any development at all. If he does get any development, it'll be because of his relationship with Yui. Of course this is pure speculation on my part so take it FWIW.

The point I'm trying to make he's a supporting character in, for the time being in what seems like a harem anime. And like his peers before him most, but not all hardly ever had any development at all. But why's is he in the story then if he's normal or have no purpose? Mainly because to drive the story whenever its convenient.

But I have to agree that some people say that the producers are keeping the guys shallow on purpose they serve as a proxy for the audience. Plus it's not the guys that sell the series, its the girls.

Taichi may get development (he's the MC after all!), but Aoki? Most likely not, because if past series and tropes count for anything then his only redeeming trait that we know about him, is he's completely utterly devoted to Yui: mind, heart, and soul.

But who knows? During the body swapping arc if he had skeletons hiding in the closet, he could've easily hid them. But being forced to act out your desires? We'll see if he's truly 'normal' or if he's really hiding something...(assuming if he even gets any screentime)
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Im sad, cose I actually like Iori a lot more than Inaba. Ill never understand what most of you guys like about agressive and manipulative girls, but thats the trend. Being a good timid girl is the sure way to be on the losing end of most love triangles lately :(
I'm rooted for Iori x Taichi as well, and that's a bad move from her part :(

Uwaa~ How is Inaba agressive and manipulative?!


How is she not? Wanna denie shes agressive? Every time she is annoyed she gets violent. Wanna denie she manipulative - she pretty much steers the whole show and every character in it so far, exept maybe Aoki. She likes to play leader. What more do you need?
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How is she not? Wanna denie shes agressive? Every time she is annoyed she gets violent. Wanna denie she manipulative - she pretty much steers the whole show and every character in it so far, exept maybe Aoki. She likes to play leader. What more do you need?


The violence is purely for comedy. Never once has she been violent when things get serious.

Manipulative, very unlikely. Just because she steers people a certain way doesn't make her manipulative. Manipulation implies personal gain in some way and she clearly is not getting anything in return for her advice. She is manipulative to herself though.
Aug 11, 2012 1:14 PM

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The violence is purely for comedy. Never once has she been violent when things get serious.

Manipulative, very unlikely. Just because she steers people a certain way doesn't make her manipulative. Manipulation implies personal gain in some way and she clearly is not getting anything in return for her advice. She is manipulative to herself though.


This is spot on.
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Next she learns that her body was used by Iori to kiss him.
Whoa, I almost forgot that part. Good point you make there.


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Jmac said:
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But I'm starting to get this impression that there's really nothing wrong with Aoki and he's the normal person of the group.

Whoa there, just because you've never been traumatized doesn't mean your issues don't matter. Everyone has problems, regardless of whether you're leading a good life or a bad one. They may not all be of the same intensity but they're there and no-one leads a life where they're ok with everything. There's a million things that could bother a character, none of which would require any kind of past trauma.
If there's really nothing in Aoki's character that's worth looking into, then the writer should've thought of something, because treating 1/5 of the cast like that is just not good storytelling.


Easy killer. I agree with you in reality that can be most definitely be the case, but in a work of fiction I'm going to have to disagree with you.

When I said Aoki was 'normal' I used it in the sense that based on past series that followed the same idioms, tropes, and cliches. Aoki is normal because he may not have a messed past or some dark ulterior motive, thus won't get any development at all. If he does get any development, it'll be because of his relationship with Yui. Of course this is pure speculation on my part so take it FWIW.

The point I'm trying to make he's a supporting character in, for the time being in what seems like a harem anime. And like his peers before him most, but not all hardly ever had any development at all. But why's is he in the story then if he's normal or have no purpose? Mainly because to drive the story whenever its convenient.

But I have to agree that some people say that the producers are keeping the guys shallow on purpose they serve as a proxy for the audience. Plus it's not the guys that sell the series, its the girls.

Taichi may get development (he's the MC after all!), but Aoki? Most likely not, because if past series and tropes count for anything then his only redeeming trait that we know about him, is he's completely utterly devoted to Yui: mind, heart, and soul.

But who knows? During the body swapping arc if he had skeletons hiding in the closet, he could've easily hid them. But being forced to act out your desires? We'll see if he's truly 'normal' or if he's really hiding something...(assuming if he even gets any screentime)


Ah, so you were talking in terms of what what we can expect based on anime cliches. Then we pretty much agree. I don't think Aoki will get any development either. Unfortunately, traumatized cute girls are what sells, and that calls for some pretty bad gender inequality. I wouldn't even call it sexism, it's audience pandering at its worst. It's the notion that guys only care about girls taken to the extreme, giving only girls any kind of complexity.
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Next she learns that her body was used by Iori to kiss him.
Whoa, I almost forgot that part. Good point you make there.


She didn't get to finish paying him back though :)
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How is she not? Wanna denie shes agressive? Every time she is annoyed she gets violent. Wanna denie she manipulative - she pretty much steers the whole show and every character in it so far, exept maybe Aoki. She likes to play leader. What more do you need?


The violence is purely for comedy. Never once has she been violent when things get serious.

Manipulative, very unlikely. Just because she steers people a certain way doesn't make her manipulative. Manipulation implies personal gain in some way and she clearly is not getting anything in return for her advice. She is manipulative to herself though.


I got to agree with you,if you pay attention to the way she acts you will notice she puts the others first and then herself.Yeah she keeps her emotions to herself because she is afraid not to hurt her friends feelings,we all wear a mask now and then and so does she.I believe that from the whole group Inaba has the most stress she tries to bury it all down and show to the others that she is strong(but in reallity that's not the case,she is getting more hurt than anyone else,so that's why the next episodes are gonna be extra-intreasting).Well to be honest she's my favourite of the bunch.
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Brilliant, the storyline this time has much more potential compared with the brilliantly executed previous arc"s, and i am a Iori x tai chi shipper but i don't mind if Inaba gets closer to Taichi for a little bit since she was the one who needed him the most (contrary to her claim about Iori being the one who presupposed taichi much more) it seem stat Taichi still has no idea 'bout this, but we'll see
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Good episode. I kinda guessed the new dilemma had to do with their desires.

I don't know who to ship anymore. ;_; Inaba or Iori, I really don't care who ends up with Taichi even if I already read the spoilers lol. Aoki and Yui should be with each other for sure. xD

My mom walked in at the part where Inaba was stripping for Taichi. LOL My mom's reaction: Why are you watching this?
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I wonder if Inaba is the one who will come closest to snapping in this arc. Great episode.
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inaba at the start was just awesome!
my pairing for taichi and inaba has grown stronger

i like the new ending as well next episode looks interesting
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The violence is purely for comedy. Never once has she been violent when things get serious.

Manipulative, very unlikely. Just because she steers people a certain way doesn't make her manipulative. Manipulation implies personal gain in some way and she clearly is not getting anything in return for her advice. She is manipulative to herself though.


This is spot on.


Is it? Remember who was the first one who grabbed Heartseed trying to force him to undo the switching? And thats not the point. Comedy or not, her way is the agressive way. Cant she resolve her temperament in some other way? Sorry, turn a blind eye if you want, but facts are facts.

How is steering people not manipulation? Regardless of personal goals, meddling in other peoples buisness, or even worse, private life, is manipulation. Who made you GOD and gave you rights to decide for others?!?
And, while you might think shes not acting for a personal gain, thats not the case. Taichi was leaning towards Iori anyways. Im pretty certain she pushed their relationship cose she wanted to see if they will be happy and if not Taichi would be free for her to make her own move on him. If Taichi and Iori would be happy with eachother, well there isnt much she can do about it anyway. Well, not without turning into complete bitch, which she isnt. So she was steering them for the sole purpose to settle her own feelings. For good or bad.
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This seems to be the Inaba-focused arc, which I'm looking forward to since she's an interesting character already.

I totally LOL'ed at the punch.
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Is it? Remember who was the first one who grabbed Heartseed trying to force him to undo the switching? And thats not the point. Comedy or not, her way is the agressive way. Cant she resolve her temperament in some other way? Sorry, turn a blind eye if you want, but facts are facts.

How is steering people not manipulation? Regardless of personal goals, meddling in other peoples buisness, or even worse, private life, is manipulation. Who made you GOD and gave you rights to decide for others?!?
And, while you might think shes not acting for a personal gain, thats not the case. Taichi was leaning towards Iori anyways. Im pretty certain she pushed their relationship cose she wanted to see if they will be happy and if not Taichi would be free for her to make her own move on him. If Taichi and Iori would be happy with eachother, well there isnt much she can do about it anyway. Well, not without turning into complete bitch, which she isnt. So she was steering them for the sole purpose to settle her own feelings. For good or bad.


Yes, Inaba can be aggressive. But she's no more aggressive than Taichi or especially Yui. She is not the only one to attack Heartseed. Both Taichi (episode 5 at the hospital) and Yui (episode 2 after Inaba gets knocked down) attack him. In addition, as we see this episode, both Yui and Taichi are intrinsically aggressive. Yui beat up boys AND broke a table, and Taichi would clearly use violence to protect Iori. Because they want to protect their friends and/or others, just like Inaba would, does this make them aggressive? Saying Inaba is anymore aggressive than those two is wrong.

As for the manipulation: they are all friends. Friends get involved in each other's lives. They advise each other on the best way to approach situations. Not all "manipulation" is bad, and none of Inaba's meddling has been negative for the others, only for herself. She does not force others to follow what she says, they are in control of their own decisions.

The reasoning that Inaba pushed Taichi towards Iori for her own gain is no worse than Taichi being the White Knight for his own personal satisfaction. Any selfless act can be narrowed down to being selfish in some way.
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I like the previous ED better
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They've done it again. Inaba is too good and this anime is just getting better and better.
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What a twist! Ah okay.. I’m…very happy. It’s no secret Freaky Friday flips are not my favorite thing. They had a great story with that, ran it through its course and now we’re going with the exact opposite of what everyone’s fear in the first half was; Where in the first the fears were that they would lose who they were, now there is a fear that they have no control over what they want to do. Every desire is pushed out, now they are too much themselves. How interesting that they’d go with this and it would go well with countering how the first half of the show went.

This subconscious voice seems to be causing lots of trouble and I am just dying to see what kind of drama ensues in the rest of this show. I’d love to know who Heart seed actually is, and am kind of afraid that we will learn nothing about him. That wouldn’t be horrible. That’s not the focus of the show, Heart seed is just the one who puts things into motion. The kids could care less about who he is. They just want him to leave them alone. In that sense he’s fine but in my fanboyish anything that is sci-fi i want to know everything about you know. You put this great thing in the world and leave it unexplained. Sometimes thats great and sometimes it isn’t. But if i had one wish it’d be that Inaba and Taichi got together. Wait no. If I had two wishes, one of them would be that we find out who or what Heart seed is.

But, poor Inaba. When she closes the door and slides down to the ground. She has no one to trust still even though Taichi’s offered, and there’s no reason why she should have just paired the other four off like that while leaving herself off like a fifth wheel, but that’s what happens when you don’t trust people. You force yourself to be alone and I hope Inaba overcomes this because she is just the best.

Good on Iori with her decision about her and Taichi.
I’m hoping we’ll get to see some more focus on Yui and Aoki here in an episode or two, we haven’t really learned all that much about Aoki and besides being the sometimes butt monkey, I like the kid.

Boo new second Ed song. I liked the first one soo much but as I’m sure it will it’ll grow on me by next two eps, I’ll regret saying this. And it helps that the animation for it is great.

So…liked first song better, but like this animation much more.
Anyway next ep looks to be good. I’m super excited. I was little hesitant with calling this my favorite show for this season, but it has exceeded all my expectations and it’s just too damn good.
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Aug 11, 2012 3:11 PM

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AlexGK said:

Is it? Remember who was the first one who grabbed Heartseed trying to force him to undo the switching? And thats not the point. Comedy or not, her way is the agressive way. Cant she resolve her temperament in some other way? Sorry, turn a blind eye if you want, but facts are facts.

How is steering people not manipulation? Regardless of personal goals, meddling in other peoples buisness, or even worse, private life, is manipulation. Who made you GOD and gave you rights to decide for others?!?
And, while you might think shes not acting for a personal gain, thats not the case. Taichi was leaning towards Iori anyways. Im pretty certain she pushed their relationship cose she wanted to see if they will be happy and if not Taichi would be free for her to make her own move on him. If Taichi and Iori would be happy with eachother, well there isnt much she can do about it anyway. Well, not without turning into complete bitch, which she isnt. So she was steering them for the sole purpose to settle her own feelings. For good or bad.


Yes, Inaba can be aggressive. But she's no more aggressive than Taichi or especially Yui. She is not the only one to attack Heartseed. Both Taichi (episode 5 at the hospital) and Yui (episode 2 after Inaba gets knocked down) attack him. In addition, as we see this episode, both Yui and Taichi are intrinsically aggressive. Yui beat up boys AND broke a table, and Taichi would clearly use violence to protect Iori. Because they want to protect their friends and/or others, just like Inaba would, does this make them aggressive? Saying Inaba is anymore aggressive than those two is wrong.

As for the manipulation: they are all friends. Friends get involved in each other's lives. They advise each other on the best way to approach situations. Not all "manipulation" is bad, and none of Inaba's meddling has been negative for the others, only for herself. She does not force others to follow what she says, they are in control of their own decisions.

The reasoning that Inaba pushed Taichi towards Iori for her own gain is no worse than Taichi being the White Knight for his own personal satisfaction. Any selfless act can be narrowed down to being selfish in some way.


Well, let me first say that YOU were the one who insisted Inaba wasnt being agressieve when things were serious. I just pointed that you were wrong on that, its not like I disapprove being agressive when things are serious.
Yui was only agressive when she had a right to be. Not that I like this about girls cose it not the way girls should act, but I wont blame anyone in such cases. And Taichi is a boy, I would find it weird if he didnt act agressive on Iori's behalf. Maybe we should call Inaba overly temperament in this case, though thats still an understatement. She DID get violent toward her frends and I dont like that way of expressing feelings, especially when being a female, sorry. I would only take comic relief as an excuse is she was a boy and was acting that way towards another boy. I dont like tsunderes, they just piss me off to no end, be it in anime or IRL.

There is a fine line between advise and pushing. I think Inaba is crossing it and goes too far. Feel free to disagree.

I dont want to go into Inaba's resoning, thats too deep and can be seen differetly by different people. I already stated how I see it. And again, feel free to disagree.
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oi oi oi oi! Inaba! Damn that Taichi he gets all the luck!

At least the author can with different idea, having them switching bodies all the time will be boring quite fast.

So if the first part was about Nagase, Inaba seems to be next.
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I thought it would get a bit dull to introduce a new "activity", but in fact, it turned out to be even better.
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AlexGK said:

Well, let me first say that YOU were the one who insisted Inaba wasnt being agressieve when things were serious. I just pointed that you were wrong on that, its not like I disapprove being agressive when things are serious.
Yui was only agressive when she had a right to be. Not that I like this about girls cose it not the way girls should act, but I wont blame anyone in such cases. And Taichi is a boy, I would find it weird if he didnt act agressive on Iori's behalf. Maybe we should call Inaba overly temperament in this case, though thats still an understatement. She DID get violent toward her frends and I dont like that way of expressing feelings, sorry. I would only take comic relief as an excuse is she was a boy and was acting that way towards another boy. I dont like tsunderes, they just piss me off to no end, be it in anime or IRL.
There is a fine line between advise an pushing. I think Inaba is crossing it. Feel free to disagree.
I dont want to go into resoning, thats too deep and can be seen differetly by different people. I already stated how I see it. And again, feel free to disagree.

Maybe we are defining aggression from different perspectives (verbal vs physical).

Inaba is definitely not physically aggressive, or no more so than her friends. Every situation where she has shown physical aggression has been used for physical comedy. When she punches Taichi or hits Aoki, it's because they were being stupid. There are plenty of series where girls are used as comic relief for hitting other characters (Taiga from Toradora = Exibit A, although a bad example because she's truly aggressive). If Inaba can be classified as tsundere on a scale from 1-10, I would say she's no more than a 3. Taiga is obviously a 12.

Even looking at the serious Heartseed scene again, she only grabbed on to him and never threw any punches or kicks, as Taichi/Yui have done.

Now I can see where manipulation can be perceived from her VERBAL aggression. She is very sharp with her words, but that's because she is VERY straightforward. She does not mince her words, which is refreshing to see in female characters. Since I would say she's borderline tomboy, she speaks and acts in a fairly non-feminine way, which may seem off-putting. However, I still think she is still not manipulating them. Although Inaba has trust issues, her friends do trust her and look up to her. The advise she provides is no more "manipulative" than the MC male in many shows encouraging their friends. They are in a stressful situation and need to work together. Inaba has just taken the role of vocal leader, and sometimes they may seem pushy, but not manipulative (in this case).

So my thoughts: Inaba is not truly physically aggressive (only comically), can be verbally aggressive, but is not manipulative.

I'm not saying I'm right or wrong, but these are my thoughts.
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Really good episode, but i can't enjoy it as much since i've already read some spoilers so i know how they'll end up, but it's still an enjoyable show.
Aug 11, 2012 4:34 PM

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Inaba's scene in the beginning.....FAVORITE CHARACTER HANDS DOWN!
Aug 11, 2012 4:53 PM
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AlexGK said:

Yui was only agressive when she had a right to be. Not that I like this about girls cose it not the way girls should act,
Really?
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Heartseed continues to act as a pseudo-producer of some supernatural reality TV show. I'm glad they decided to change the game up a bit. It has quite a bit more potential (dramatic, rather than comedic) than the previous rules, depending on how the direction.

Also, this new ending song lacked the powerful lead-in of the previous ending song, especially when placed after the preview. Can't say I listened to both in their entirety though.
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