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Oct 28, 2013 1:04 AM
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I don't mind wimpy main characters. But i CANNOT stand DENSE MC's.
 
Oct 28, 2013 4:00 AM

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I only hate wimpy male leads when they stay wimpy but if they get over it and actually become powerful characters then it can be good. Like Yuuji Sakai (Shakugan no Shana) he starts out being a wimp and by the end he is one of the most powerful characters in the show, I'm not going too say how he becomes that because that would be a spoiler.
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Oct 28, 2013 4:12 AM

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I love wimpy male leads. The wimpier the better. I don't get how so many people like badass MCs, they're boring as fuck.
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Oct 28, 2013 4:19 AM

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Shiratori99 said:
I love wimpy male leads. The wimpier the better. I don't get how so many people like badass MCs, they're boring as fuck.


On behalf of all the badass MCs, I encourage you to take that back right now.
 
Oct 28, 2013 4:24 AM
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When I saw the thread title the first thing that popped up into my head was Accel World.

i don't understand, why do creators make characters like that? nobody likes them anyway. i find loser characters disgusting.


Same guy made the ultimate Gary Sue character which is Kirito, so he obviously has a fetish for extreme characters.
 
Oct 28, 2013 4:51 AM

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AnimeSweden said:
Shiratori99 said:
I love wimpy male leads. The wimpier the better. I don't get how so many people like badass MCs, they're boring as fuck.


On behalf of all the badass MCs, I encourage you to take that back right now.


I won't. They can eat my pantsu ~
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Oct 28, 2013 4:53 AM

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I hate wimpy male leads could barely finish Mirai Nikki because of that guy lol. Only reason I watched it though was cause dat Yandere.
 
Oct 28, 2013 5:52 AM

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Not all wimps though. There are some exception especially if they are suited to be a wimp or sumthin. :3
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While I do hate Shinji, I can understand why he is fucked up. His whole life was literally a mess. If I was in that situation, I would have broken many times. But still, I can't stand wimpy males. Shinji is just tip of the iceberg. Worst are those fucktards from harem series. I don't hate them because they don't act. I hate them because they allowed that kind of situation to happen in first place. And honorable mention is Yukki, who is just a pussy. But oh well, Mirai Nikki was one of first anime I ever watched, and first time I encountered Yandere type girl, so my attention was drawn away from him to Yuno.
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Feb 25, 2014 3:16 PM

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I'll have to agree with not really liking the male lead from Accel World but I felt that Shinji from NGE was a very believable character and really added to the show.

I also like the wimps that develop as the show progresses like Renton from Eureka 7
 
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I'm one of those who didn't mind Shinji's wimp nature because he had an actual reason for it. He had a fucked up life so of course his mental state would be a mess.

 
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Guys like Amano Yukiteru/Haruyuki Arita? Oooh yea, I sure do find them annoying and hard to watch.


Yeah those are worst ones I've seen just from the voices alone. They have their "moments" but pretty much don't change.

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AnimeSweden said:
Shiratori99 said:
I love wimpy male leads. The wimpier the better. I don't get how so many people like badass MCs, they're boring as fuck.


On behalf of all the badass MCs, I encourage you to take that back right now.


I won't. They can eat my pantsu ~


What about wimpy lead to badass c:
 
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Shinji's life was a mess obviously he's going to act that way plus he's 14.. He's not going to be all "OmGZ badazzz!!! Yea!!!!" At that age.. But then he started to change and develop.. He grew more confident and became more brave to the point he was fighting angels no problem and made friends.. That went to hell when Gendo auto piloted his Eva and put his friend in the hospital

In the rebuilds he's a much more improved

If you're talking about End of Evangelion Shinji well.... I can't defend him.. He was a bad character in that movie
 
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Guys like Amano Yukiteru/Haruyuki Arita? Oooh yea, I sure do find them annoying and hard to watch.


Yeah those are worst ones I've seen just from the voices alone. They have their "moments" but pretty much don't change.

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AnimeSweden said:
Shiratori99 said:
I love wimpy male leads. The wimpier the better. I don't get how so many people like badass MCs, they're boring as fuck.


On behalf of all the badass MCs, I encourage you to take that back right now.


I won't. They can eat my pantsu ~


What about wimpy lead to badass c:


Simon(Gurren Lagann)
 
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Shinji's life was a mess obviously he's going to act that way plus he's 14.. He's not going to be all "OmGZ badazzz!!! Yea!!!!" At that age.. But then he started to change and develop.. He grew more confident and became more brave to the point he was fighting angels no problem and made friends.. That went to hell when Gendo auto piloted his Eva and put his friend in the hospital

In the rebuilds he's a much more improved

If you're talking about End of Evangelion Shinji well.... I can't defend him.. He was a bad character in that movie

I really need to rewatch NGE and movies...
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TheGrandSage23 said:
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Guys like Amano Yukiteru/Haruyuki Arita? Oooh yea, I sure do find them annoying and hard to watch.


Yeah those are worst ones I've seen just from the voices alone. They have their "moments" but pretty much don't change.

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AnimeSweden said:
Shiratori99 said:
I love wimpy male leads. The wimpier the better. I don't get how so many people like badass MCs, they're boring as fuck.


On behalf of all the badass MCs, I encourage you to take that back right now.


I won't. They can eat my pantsu ~


What about wimpy lead to badass c:


Simon(Gurren Lagann)


Exactly.
 
Feb 25, 2014 5:37 PM
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I hate them and I don't give a shit about character development, I watch anime for entertainment so why the fuck would I want absolutely realistic characters? Sure realistic is good, but it must be in a way that doesn't piss me off. I dropped NGE right after episode 1 because of that stupid MC, yeah who wouldn't be scared at that time but when the world is about to be destroyed, when he's in the verge of death he still said: "I can't do it". Now I understand that the author probably made him like that for a reason but it still fucking pissed me off because how the fuck could I enjoy a story with a character like that?
 
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I hate them and I don't give a shit about character development, I watch anime for entertainment so why the fuck would I want absolutely realistic characters? Sure realistic is good, but it must be in a way that doesn't piss me off. I dropped NGE right after episode 1 because of that stupid MC, yeah who wouldn't be scared at that time but when the world is about to be destroyed, when he's in the verge of death he still said: "I can't do it". Now I understand that the author probably made him like that for a reason but it still fucking pissed me off because how the fuck could I enjoy a story with a character like that?


Similarly, if you give me a max level RPG character at the start, I probably wouldn't play it. Playing from level 1, getting kill over and over by slimes and goblins, getting frustrated over my first Orc fight, or crying over the lack of potion...

To defeating the final boss.

Go back to beginner town, and see all the weapons you used to grind for, all the town folks who use to give you silly quest.

It's storytelling.

Personally, I prefer to see growth in character, which is why characters like Kamina piss me off to no end.

Seeing a character overcome hardship and achieve breakthrough can be quite amazing. Seeing how far they're come, how much have their journey changed them.

It's like watering a plant and wait for flower to bloom.

Watching a plastic flower is not that fun.
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Feb 25, 2014 8:01 PM

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Similarly, if you give me a max level RPG character at the start, I probably wouldn't play it. Playing from level 1, getting kill over and over by slimes and goblins, getting frustrated over my first Orc fight, or crying over the lack of potion...

To defeating the final boss.

Go back to beginner town, and see all the weapons you used to grind for, all the town folks who use to give you silly quest.

It's storytelling.

Personally, I prefer to see growth in character, which is why characters like Kamina piss me off to no end.

Seeing a character overcome hardship and achieve breakthrough can be quite amazing. Seeing how far they're come, how much have their journey changed them.

It's like watering a plant and wait for flower to bloom.

Watching a plastic flower is not that fun.

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Feb 25, 2014 8:04 PM

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If this so called whimpy male lead character becomes a badass later on in the show (Simon from Gurren Lagann, Tsuna from Hitman Reborn, etc.) then I think its perfectly fine. If they stay whimpy the whole time then yea it gets my hate.
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If this so called whimpy male lead character becomes a badass later on in the show (Simon from Gurren Lagann, Tsuna from Hitman Reborn, etc.) then I think its perfectly fine. If they stay whimpy the whole time then yea it gets my hate.
the MC from Familiar of Zero fits ur description perfectly
 
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Yeah, they suck.
 
Feb 25, 2014 9:34 PM
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Similarly, if you give me a max level RPG character at the start, I probably wouldn't play it. Playing from level 1, getting kill over and over by slimes and goblins, getting frustrated over my first Orc fight, or crying over the lack of potion...

To defeating the final boss.

Go back to beginner town, and see all the weapons you used to grind for, all the town folks who use to give you silly quest.

It's storytelling.

I respect your opinion, but a character's personality is completely different from the stats of an RPG character when the latter is about the difficulty you meet when you play the game. Sure I wouldn't play a game that makes me overpowered from the beginning either but in this case it's different, you can't expect me to like a character's personality that pisses me off right from the start.

If you like that kind of characters, good for you, but I just can't like them.
 
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I don't hate them, I would love them if they get a character development, like Shioon from The Breaker. Otherwise.. I don't think I could've watch on/read on.
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If this so called whimpy male lead character becomes a badass later on in the show (Simon from Gurren Lagann, Tsuna from Hitman Reborn, etc.) then I think its perfectly fine. If they stay whimpy the whole time then yea it gets my hate.
 
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No, because I'm not projecting myself onto the MC for the purposes of fulfilling waifu fantasies.
 
Feb 25, 2014 9:58 PM
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No, because I'm not projecting myself onto the MC for the purposes of fulfilling waifu fantasies.

Not everyone projects themselves onto those characters, you know. For me it's the same as hating a person in real life, that's all.
 
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And what about wimpy female leads, huh ? They do exist, and in abundance.

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No, because I'm not projecting myself onto the MC for the purposes of fulfilling waifu fantasies.

Not everyone projects themselves onto those characters, you know. For me it's the same as hating a person in real life, that's all.

So IRL you would go as far as to hate someone for not being as brave and fearless as you?
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No, because I'm not projecting myself onto the MC for the purposes of fulfilling waifu fantasies.

Not everyone projects themselves onto those characters, you know. For me it's the same as hating a person in real life, that's all.

So IRL you would go as far as to hate someone for not being as brave and fearless as you?
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I'm not brave and fearless but there's also a limit to how pathetic a person could be, I can't stand the type that refuses to do anything even on the verge of death, it's just that simple.
 
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highwinddv said:
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highwinddv said:
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No, because I'm not projecting myself onto the MC for the purposes of fulfilling waifu fantasies.

Not everyone projects themselves onto those characters, you know. For me it's the same as hating a person in real life, that's all.

So IRL you would go as far as to hate someone for not being as brave and fearless as you?
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I'm not brave and fearless but there's also a limit to how pathetic a person could be, I can't stand the type that refuses to do anything even on the verge of death, it's just that simple.


"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."

Don't underestimate just how pathetic people can be :P

Anyways, I don't really mind pathetic protagonists as long as they don't stay that way throughout the whole series.
Though for me hate is a big word. I can get annoyed with them, but I don't hate them.
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Feb 26, 2014 1:59 AM

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You need the effeminate male leads, so the Clannad Sunohara ending is plausible.
 
Feb 26, 2014 8:06 AM

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So annoying
 
Feb 26, 2014 9:02 AM

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If he's also dense to top it off, thats just automatic hate list.
 
Feb 26, 2014 9:11 AM

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I don´t really have a problem with them...

 
Feb 26, 2014 10:27 AM

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Not a big fan of wimpy leads, but I think the Ichikas of the anime world are so much worse. Nobody is that dense.

Exactly what they said to the T. (Especially the Ichika dense part).I am a very dense person and nobody is that dense annoys the crap out of me...
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Feb 26, 2014 11:40 AM

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I hate all male leads.

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Feb 26, 2014 12:24 PM

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They annoy the piss out of me.

But how else are standard anime fans going to fill their shoes with the protagonist's?
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I usually hate them but I did like Guilty Crown despite the minor wimpy boy moments.
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Feb 26, 2014 12:40 PM

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They're good if they grow up to be a badass. Like in Gurren Lagann, or Mirai Nikki.
 
Feb 26, 2014 12:57 PM
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They're good if they grow up to be a badass. Like in Gurren Lagann, or Mirai Nikki.

This is the only time.

But they''re usually there so the loser otaku out there can relate.
 
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They're good if they grow up to be a badass. Like in Gurren Lagann, or Mirai Nikki.
Yeah...no.

I know Mirai Nikki was a poor example, but at least he was realistic.
 
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Realistic or not, character progression or not, wimpy male leads can pls die.

Even if said MC gets overpowered and super badass later, that would still involve me sitting through half an anime worth of wimpy male lead getting dragged around by other leads or side characters.
No thank you.
 
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I like Jacuzi from Baccano (one of many leads), but I don't know if he counts as wimpy? More neuratic crybaby.
Other than that, I can't think of an occassion where I've liked someone wimpy.

 
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yeah I agree.
 
Feb 26, 2014 5:38 PM

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I like Jacuzi from Baccano (one of many leads), but I don't know if he counts as wimpy? More neuratic crybaby.
Other than that, I can't think of an occassion where I've liked someone wimpy.


this completely, unless they are wimpy for comedy reasons like usopp from one piece (in the beginning of the show at least)
 
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No, because we all are whimpy obnoxious brats
 
Feb 26, 2014 5:41 PM

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HELL. YES. I hate it how all the creativity has to go to the girls, and the guy just ends up being the 'average brown eyes brown spiky hair 14 year old whose life changes after meeting some mysterious girl' It's just become so nauseating.

At this point, I won't even consider watching anime with such a bad male protagonist that only focuses on girls >.> I don't have time
 
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I hate all male leads.

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No it makes me feel good knowing I could kill them and steal the whole Harem.

Well maybe not given they always have some special power or overprotective girl...lucky bastards.
 
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