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Oct 8, 2008 9:17 PM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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The ending was a bit sad, especially when we find out that she couldn't see ;__;
 
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Aug 30, 2009 10:16 PM

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I was pretty sure she couldn't see for a while earlier in the episode, but the ending was still really nice. Another fantastic episode.




 
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My favorite stand alone episode. That part at the church with the girl and Batou was magnificently executed, riveting and showed Batou's sentimentality.
 
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Oct 17, 2009 11:56 PM

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One of my favorite SA episodes too. Just a little nitpick, the Siegessäule (Berlin Victory Column) at 66 meters in height, I couldn't fathom how Batou, given his super human strength to jump that high? Or did he just take the stairs?

Nice little representation of Berlin though Batou's commentary focused on the city's destruction and rebirth after the 3rd World War. Not much emphasis on the 2nd World War, or probably because of the timeline in the GiTS universe?
"We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer"
 
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Nov 22, 2009 9:26 PM

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Great episode, loved it to death. It was beautifully executed, Batou is turning out ot be a great and enjoyable character to watch.
 
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I love everything about Batou. I really thought in the end he was going to pretend to be the girls father to make her happy and give her the gift. Really sad.
 
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Apr 17, 2010 1:14 AM

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What an episode O_O but that last part ... pretty sad =/

Drgentile777 said:
I love everything about Batou. I really thought in the end he was going to pretend to be the girls father to make her happy and give her the gift. Really sad.

I was thinking the same thing!
 
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Jul 5, 2010 7:15 AM

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I love Batou! The ending was really sad. Can't wait to see the next one.
 
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Drgentile777 said:
I love everything about Batou. I really thought in the end he was going to pretend to be the girls father to make her happy and give her the gift. Really sad.


Since he just got burned a few minutes prior by letting his feelings get in the way of his job, I couldn't see that happening, especially with the Major standing right there.
 
Jan 17, 2011 12:58 PM

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='( That was a pretty sad episode. Probably my favourite so far.
 
Jan 22, 2011 10:27 PM

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If Batou wants to know why dogs hate him, he should watch Ghost in the Shell: Innocence
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
 
Jan 24, 2011 9:41 AM

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That was a great episode.

Anyone notice how this episode pays Homage to the film called "Wings of Desire"?


 
Mar 21, 2011 7:23 PM

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Really liked Batou in this one. The ending was very moving.
 
Apr 30, 2011 10:29 PM

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Crimsonwill said:
What an episode O_O but that last part ... pretty sad =/

Drgentile777 said:
I love everything about Batou. I really thought in the end he was going to pretend to be the girls father to make her happy and give her the gift. Really sad.

I was thinking the same thing!


I thought he would do the same >_<

Definitely a great episode, I really enjoyed it. The ending of the episode was very well done, it made me a bit emotional.
 
Jun 5, 2011 12:59 PM

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TVV said:
Drgentile777 said:
I love everything about Batou. I really thought in the end he was going to pretend to be the girls father to make her happy and give her the gift. Really sad.


Since he just got burned a few minutes prior by letting his feelings get in the way of his job, I couldn't see that happening, especially with the Major standing right there.

I agree, it's sad but I knew it wasn't going to happen ):
Great episode.
 
Sep 27, 2011 11:08 AM
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Did anyone noticed how Batou turned the pages right to left, even though the girl's diary was written in German? Yea, that kinda bothered me.
 
Sep 27, 2011 5:14 PM

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Did anyone noticed how Batou turned the pages right to left, even though the girl's diary was written in German? Yea, that kinda bothered me.


Actually, he was going backwards to earlier dates so he turned them correctly.
 
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Topgunuk69 said:
InfinityPal said:
Did anyone noticed how Batou turned the pages right to left, even though the girl's diary was written in German? Yea, that kinda bothered me.


Actually, he was going backwards to earlier dates so he turned them correctly.


Ohhhh. Yea, that makes sense, especially whenever IG is known for their attention to detail.
 
Dec 3, 2011 5:44 PM

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Oh man what a punch in the gut...

Its true that even the darkest of hearts can have someone they love.
 
Jan 18, 2012 12:35 PM

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another sad episode :(

definitely surprised how high batou can jump, not to mention he seem not fond by dogs :P

it surprise me also how the girl was blind all along, guess her senses are strong just like what batou said :P

it's also sad when Batou and Motoko apprehended angels feathers and his daughter came to see him.

when Batou had to answer that "The Angel isn't going anywhere" it made me sad :(

and wow Motoko looking furiously as Batou mummers and answering the girl.

why you mean Motoko ._______.

all in all very sad episode and showed us how kind and heart warming batou is.

especially during the episode of the creator of the tachikomas.
 
Mar 13, 2012 9:53 PM

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Oh my lord

Definitely one of my favorite episodes in the show. Some real powerful stuff
 
Oct 15, 2012 8:50 PM

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Wow, she was blind? I guess that is why her handwriting sucks so hard.

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Oct 29, 2012 1:52 PM

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That was sad... but really like Batou in it..
 
Dec 25, 2012 5:42 PM

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So, Batou has a sensitive side to him after all. I actually enjoyed that. A bit sad about the girl though.

 
Jan 2, 2013 7:27 PM
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My angel, my only...

Sad ending tbh.
 
Feb 9, 2013 6:04 PM

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The opening art of Berlin was amazing. This whole episode had a great atmosphere, and quite frankly the girl being blind caught me by surprise. The whole final church scene was sort of reminiscent of Cowboy Bebop with its action and Kanno's gripping music. Great episode once again.
 
Feb 17, 2013 6:52 AM

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So so episode, the ending was nice and touching though!
 
Mar 4, 2013 4:58 AM

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TVV said:
Drgentile777 said:
I love everything about Batou. I really thought in the end he was going to pretend to be the girls father to make her happy and give her the gift. Really sad.


Since he just got burned a few minutes prior by letting his feelings get in the way of his job, I couldn't see that happening, especially with the Major standing right there.


Yeah you get the feeling that if he didn't screw up a minute ago and the major wasn't standing there he might have played along.
 
Mar 31, 2013 12:24 AM
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That was a great episode.

Anyone notice how this episode pays Homage to the film called "Wings of Desire"?


Ahhhh, I wondered if something like that was going on. Good call.
 
Apr 20, 2013 7:00 AM

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Nice stand alone episode! I prefer when they focus on a particular character, this one being on Batou. The ending was sad but it was nice seeing Batous emotional side.
 
Jun 15, 2013 1:51 AM

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That was a touching episode. Even though she is blind she still manages to write her diary. Looks like Batou has this problem with dogs. I still remember the part in Gits SAC when he tamed the cyborg dogs. And i felt very sad at that last scene in the church :(
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Jun 29, 2013 9:53 AM
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Next to the Tachikomas, Batou is my next favorite character in the show. I am also starting to hate the Major now... she is soo not human, in all sense of the word.

The girls blindness probably explains the poor handwriting and the audio emails jive with this. Very good detail work from Production I.G.
 
Jul 20, 2013 6:26 AM

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Batou episodes are always some of the best! This was no exception :)
 
Nov 2, 2013 6:00 PM

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poor girl :<
 
Dec 15, 2013 8:53 PM

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"天使は...天使は...もう...どこにも行かない。"
Batou...
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Jan 22, 2014 5:49 PM

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Batou is a real ninja...

That ending was fucking sad. She didn't had to ''see'' that.

But that guy was a mad terrorist. And to play the father like if there was nothing.
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Jun 16, 2014 4:12 AM

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5/5

It's time to Batou, to show his human side.
Episode in which a complete separation from the main plot is all over for everything to start also the context in which the story takes place.
It looks like a tribute to the strength of the Germans.
Narrative so sad and of great impact, especially if I reflect on what could make the girl despite being blind.
I was so excited at the end, Batou What I thought was going to comfort her and give him the gift, instead puts it in front of the harsh reality.
Finally, I wonder, what the gift will remain a mystery.
Even the most ruthless killer hides a part of her true self.
Drawings and animations discreet enough.
Beautiful frescoes depicted in the church.
A cute episode SA at the end.
 
Feb 11, 2015 2:34 PM

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Monad said:
TVV said:


Since he just got burned a few minutes prior by letting his feelings get in the way of his job, I couldn't see that happening, especially with the Major standing right there.


Yeah you get the feeling that if he didn't screw up a minute ago and the major wasn't standing there he might have played along.


Was thinking the same thing, then looked at the Major's face waiting for Batou to make another mistake as to show sentiment on the line of work, but, not being the Major there, I'm pretty sure Batou would've said something nice to the girl.
All the more, this ending was a sad one.

I liked the connection they made at the beginning with Goda's plan being them sent to Germany instead of having them messing with his plan and the Individual Eleven.
This kind of episodes are hardly a filler, but I believe that people, back in the day when the show first aired might've thought that way.
One of the many things I like about the GITS series.
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Feb 17, 2015 9:44 AM

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Poor kid ;___;

I kinda feel sorry for Batou too, if the Major wasn't there I think he would have acted like the kids father.
 
Apr 22, 2015 7:02 AM

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Great ending to this episode, dem feels.
 
May 5, 2015 1:46 PM

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Very nice episode. They enhanced the background art quality for this one, too.
One of the best episodes of the series, and the kind of episode I prefer.
 
May 11, 2015 3:15 PM

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outstanding, also the production values were incredible, there wasnt any flashy fight scenes but the background and the fluid realistic movements were downright uncanny at points, there were parts of the ep that were so fluid they looked like they belonged in the oshii movies

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Germany can't catch a break with these World Wars huh? So was that bit with Batou and the dog a nod to GITS 2?
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Aug 10, 2015 12:13 PM

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So I guess I'm the only one who thought Batou's reply at the end was kind of ambiguous? He didn't downright pretend to be her father at that moment, but "the angel isn't going to be going anywhere" sounds like he's considering keeping her "fantasy" alive in some way. Is it too much of a wild interpretation?
 
Sep 11, 2015 9:42 PM
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Oh My God!!..Dem feels
 
Nov 21, 2015 1:10 AM

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I thought they would explain why the terrorist did all that.
 
Feb 13, 2016 3:02 AM

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Is the present for the girl a cure for her blindness or a prosthetic? It's nice to see Batou's human side
 
Feb 20, 2016 5:42 PM

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Amazing Directing this episode
Great Episode.
 
May 24, 2016 3:11 AM

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Its episodes like this that made me realize Batou is quite possibly the best character in the entire GitS franchise. While Major is pretty much the meaning of awesome and Togusa is quite an interesting character in his own right, there's something about Batou that makes it easy for the viewer to connect to him. Even though he is a cyborg, he's undoubtedly the most human among the cast, and that's probably the highlight in terms of the characterization.
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Very good episode, the feelz were strong in the end >.<
 
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