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-Quasar said: He is just being asked to adapt to a Japanese TSF by not using his Brute American style. Is it that hard? It only becomes harder because of his shitty pride could not allow himself be ordered by a Japanese superior. No, the entire speech between him and his American friend was to inform us yes, it IS that hard switching between American and Japanese machines. Its two completely different functioning units that control, feel, and respond NOTHING alike. I guarantee if we took Yui's ship and dumped her in an american model, she'd be having trouble too in the first few weeks. And you complain about Yuuya, him and Yui is EXACTLY alike, and she has shown to have a hard headed streak as well. Part of that is the reason she saw her friends killed. Now is Yuuya acting spoiled? Yes. But Yui is just as wrong here. BOTH of them have done a shitty job trying to communicate with each other. You're making it seem like Yui is doing nothing out of the ordinary, EVERYONE has taken noticed and even stated that both her and yuuya go out their way to start bickering. Yui is a tsundere straight up, and like ALL tsunderes start, she has trouble expressing what she wants (in this case for him to learn) without going over the top. Hell, you could say BOTH of them are Tsundere. And people are really not giving Yuuya enough credit. Yea Yui might have held back, but she was LEGITIMATELY caught off guard and completely DISARMED, which she was NOT expecting. So he did win the fight against her fair and square. Now in an actual fight, of course she has more in her arsenal to use, but that doesn't change the fact that in the warrior code, in the SWORD FIGHT, she was bested. |
Tenchi_RyuJul 30, 2012 11:19 AM
Monad said: Not to mention that his only adjusting because he is being pushed. If she just said to him "Of course what was i thinking, this is junk like you say. Lets throw it away and wait until we have an American model for you", then he wouldn't be making progress at anything but just sitting on his ass. Not at all. He's here cause he wants to be here. He's a cocky bastard, but he isn't lazy. He's gotten to his high status from hard work, not given anything. |
| Serious question for all the Yui supporters. If she is such a better pilot than Yuuya, why isnt she the test pilot? I mean she actually has combat experince so wouldn't she be the logically candidate? And no I'm not a homer for Yuuya even if he's American, just cause he's keeping the stereotypical cocky jackass American stereotype alive and well -_-... |
Jmac said: Serious question for all the Yui supporters. If she is such a better pilot than Yuuya, why isnt she the test pilot? I mean she actually has combat experince so wouldn't she be the logically candidate? And no I'm not a homer for Yuuya even if he's American, just cause he's keeping the stereotypical cocky jackass American stereotype alive and well -_-... It's not that she is a better pilot, Yuuya got very shitty results on that Japanese machine for god knows how many days, then suddenly learns it all and beats Yui, which feels a bit too drastic to me. If she was not fighting seriously, that's alright though. I am still fan of Yui though, the way she made the others look like fodder was awesome :). |
TheDodoJul 30, 2012 2:15 PM
| Das Feenreich! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUvxzKt5GoM |
| So Yuuya finally embraced his inner YAMATO DAMASHII. Still he's a likable character, stuck between two worlds. Surprisingly enough I'm liking this series even though it doesn't have the amount of BETA Smash like Alternative did. |
What? North Korea was quite quick in asking help from the "Enemies of our Glorious Leader" (i.e. South Korea and the US) when there was a plague, a drought, floods (like right now, there are flooding there). And the very basic human nature is survival, hurting each other can never improve (and most probably do the opposite) chances of survival when there's another party involved whose actions you can never affect. It's a normal reaction from outsiders with logical mindset. While you're in a war condition yourself, there are a lot of factors that contributing your decision, which could be really silly when you use your point of view of observers. Especially since your knowledge about the world right now is pretty limited. For example, U.S army. Actually they already developed their TSF toward TSF v.s TSF aspect (such as developing stealth technology, which is useless against BETA). Using your point of view, this is purely illogical. But, if you know about U.S war tactics against BETA in defense and offense, their current condition in the battlefield, international policy, major humanity plan(s) for the future etc, your opinion become invalid since you just see the conflict from one view point, survival. Human isn't that simple. While survival is very important, you can't simply disregard every other factors that could contribute do decision making, and we still haven't reach that part of story to know that yet. |
| Too much silly fanservice. Also, Cryska should have more screentime. |
| Looks like Yuuya finally learn something.... And will stop putting the fault on others.... |
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maxie said: Pretty good episode, Yuuya bitches less than usual, lol @ "riding the princess", Yui kicks some serious ass (yay Tarisa gets owned so badly), Yui goes easy on him... what? Next episode is beach episode? What the...? I guess it's mandatory nowadays? Anyway, here's a funny picture comparing Yuuya and Takeru (the MC of MLA), it's really not fair, but it's pretty hilarious. Slight spoiler warning. Lol |
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| Pretty decent episode this time, did enjoy it to some extent. |
Nasty001 said: Hardly if that fight lasted any longer Yui would have won her blade might have fallen but i am sure she had more tricks up her sleeve.Whoa, it nice that Yuuya was able to spank that bitch's ass. I think Yui was just showing what a Japanese unit was capable of and she did a good job at that. Also i don't agree with Yui being a bitch you should look at it from her sight. There is allot depending on the units they test there if anything fails and they would have to redesign the units just how long do you think that will take. And time isn't a luxury they seems to have. Normally time is money but time is lives the sooner they can get those units finessed and tested and ready for battle the more lives they can save. You should also take Yui past into consideration in the first two episodes she lost all her friends and she might have lost more people dear to her during that battle and who knows in how many battles she has been after that. It's clear she has experienced more battles then the one we saw during the first two episodes else she would never have made to the Imperial guard not to mention became so skilful. And who knows what she been through in that three year time period we didn't see. If someone here is showing bitchy behaviour it's Yuuya who is acting like a complete asshole. And all that because he had a bad youth, if everyone who had a bad youth would behave like him society would not be able to function. He is just a spoiled brat who doesn't know what it's like on battlefield. |
| Yui's so perfect, why do i have to keep seeing Yuuya on screen so much? Sure, he got his act together by the end of episode, but he still annoys the hell out of me just by being there. |
| レッツゴー ED イケイケゴーゴー |
| Yuuya's finally getting the hang of the Japanese type TSF. Can't believe Yui would just fight them with real weapons like that. Is she really that hard on Yuuya just because of her traumatic past? Also, Tarisa in a cat maid outfit! :D |
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Blitzschnell said: Yeah I had a feeling Inia (and probably Cryska were a leftover of Alternative III. Starting to become more and more apparent. Especially that doll Inia has, reminds me of evil Usa-chan. And the fact that they're in a Russian research facility to boot.future spoilers Yui's Takemikazuchi is rather cool. Really feels like something a noble princess would use. |
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Blitzschnell said: Hopefully Yuuya continues his character development in episode 6, so I don't have to be so annoyed every time he appears on screen. On the bright side, the Yuuya-Yui arguements will cease to exist. (I hope) As much as some of you dislike Yuuya's attitude, many of us also can't stand Yui. It goes both ways cause people don't like bitchy characters. Especially when many feel there are better methods to getting closer to him. Personally, I feel she could have let her skill do the talking, and showed him from the beginning, but she took the immature route and went back and forth, making them both look hardheaded. The American friend is absolutely correct, they are A LOT alike, whether they want to admit it or not. So if both of them warm up and develop their character, it will be good for both. Personally though, I love Yuuya's cockyness. Too many shows where the main character is a bitch, useless and just utterly pathetic (i.e. no balls). Yuuya's challenging her, and I love it. As for the sword fight, it doesn't matter if she might be stronger, its just like a Karate match imo. Even if the person who was downed is better, they were still downed. So of course Yuuya fans will enjoy that. Cause lets be honest, if Yui knocked him on his ass (which I honestly was expecting), the Yui fans would have been like "finally" and loving it. And Yuuya > Yui :P |
Tenchi_RyuJul 31, 2012 11:18 PM
| WTF is with people and their arguments whether is Yuuya or Yui better? Are you even trying to see into them or do you just believe everything they say has no other reason? They're both in the wrong and yet none of them is. Yuuya clearly has trouble accepting his Japanese origins, instead of accepting them, he fights them. That's why he constantly had trouble with his TSF. If you think about his complaints, they could be summed up in them being made in Japanese style not American. He never said anything specific, he was just complaining that it's junk because he can't control them. Was he being a jerk? Yes. Was it understandable because of his past. Yes. Was he doing that on purpose? No. About Yui. Yuuya was deaf to any explanation and help on how to control them (since his issues were with himself not really with the TSF) so she decided to speak to him the same way he was speaking to her. On top, she anted to provoke him to be better and stop complaining. Did it work? Yes. Was it the only way? Most likely no. Is it understandable since he was insulting (for no reason) what she was working with even since she was young? Yes. Is it alright hat someone with lower rank and experience yells at her? No. Is being a spoiled jerk in time of war alright? No. Is being a bitch the best way to handle that? No. They both handle their problems in a bad way, that's what makes them human but in the end they TOGETHER managed to solve them. So, did everything work in the end? Yes. I actually see them equally wrong and equally justified at this point. He should have solved his problem outside of his job and she could have solved problem with him much "nicer" way. Either they would both do that or they both do what hey actually did. Any other way wouldn't solve anything. If she was nice to him hen he was acting like a spoiled brat, he wouldn't realise his mistakes. If she would be a bitch while he would try to solve it without yelling, it would demotivate him. About this episode. After the first 2, this is the only episode I didn't hate. However, it was unbearably boring so not much of an improvement. At least i hope this episode solved Yuuya-Yui arguments, I'm getting sick of them. Half of the Earth is conquered by BETA and they waste their time with pointless arguing. |
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| Great episode, I'm liking this show so far but it could be much, much better if it was presented more seriously with less fan service and what not. I'm looking forward to more of this, it's still a lot of fun to watch. |
I almost never read discussions after I made my post, if you want to reply PM me or post on my profile page. |
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Tanta said: 27CansOfTuna said:  The Japanese Doll, Lt. Takamura, has outdone Chobi (Tarisa) for the worst character. There are so many things wrong with her, like her terrible attitude towards Yuuya Bridges, doesnt she know he is the American Top Gun?! If she was just a bit more understanding then she could be a bit decent. However that is the least of her sins The oddest thing was that Natalies boobs seemed as big as Chobi's head, what even, only noticeable since they were all over her head. That's what annoys me about the series so far, the American bashing and also the hate towards the Japanese from Bridges. To me...it just does not seem very realistic. They really need to take a vacation to America and see the melting pot. All in all, decent episode it didn't piss me off as bad as Ep. 4 did. Yeah, I just watched this anime last night and there is definitely something grating about the way the Japanese authors portray Americans and life in the American family and military. As if it's Japan that is a paragon of racial egalitarianism and the US that has a problem integrating other ethnicities. Something about the premise of this entire series just smells disgustingly phony. Contrived. I'm not in the US military myself but my dad is an engineer in the defense industry and naturally has a lot of contact with military personnel. Actually, my cousin-in-law is a Marine and both sides of the family can't wait for the expectant mother, mixed-race or not, doesn't matter. We're ethnically Taiwanese and I'm a second-generation American. And I have a real hard time swallowing the Japanese racial critique and portrayal of America because I know a few things about how Japanese (and even Chinese) societies work. Again, I can't quite put it into words quite yet, but I'm sure I'll be able to once I put my finger on it. Something really stinks about this series. |
| Finally, he wiped that smug look off that bitches face. |
OrochiPL said: Yui's so perfect, why do i have to keep seeing Yuuya on screen so much? Sure, he got his act together by the end of episode, but he still annoys the hell out of me just by being there. Well...the MC is Yuuya. |
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| Meh this American-Japanese rivalry is dragged out. |
| I like how they showed how strong the BETA can be in the first two episodes since now the audience knows how terrifying they can be. In ML and MLA, the training felt more like games even though it really wasn't. I kinda wanna see the scene (if there is one) in the VN where he finally ends up having hate sex with the Lieutenant. Also, the whole restaurant scene gave me a boner. |
| -Nothing can stay unchanged. Even so, can you still keep on loving this place? -Be still my soul; when change and tears are past, all safe and blessed we shall meet at last. |
| Aww damn now he's mastering the Japanese TSF's so no more Yui beatdowns. |
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| Did Sugita suggested Yuuya to get into Yui's pants? -.- |
| Honobono Log - best slice of life short -------------------------------------------- most kawaii loli overlord ---------------------------- Donquixote Doflamingo AMV - Control |
| hell yeah... I hope she stop bitching him now... I do like femdom in some sense... But her bitching is too much of a femdom lol... |
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| I just had to comment. Yui is possibly one of the most annoying, idiotic and narrow-minded characters I've seen in years. She's so annoying it's seriously hampering my enjoyment to the point where I might drop the show if this continues. Especially if she's the one that's supposed to be "right" (not that I think Yuuya is without fault, but Yui is by far the bigger problem). |
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