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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Not much to say here other than they got really, really lucky. I guess the pilot in the other mech just had enough of it all but decided to go one step further than Kirie. Looks like next episode is going to be some pep talks to give Kirie some purpose to fight and keep everyone alive. |
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| Great episode, my theory is still working out as well ^^. The enemy probably represented Kirie's mother and a bit of himself as well. His mother tried to kill herself in which the 'enemy' robot succeeded and Kirie didn't want to fight at all either. The human shape is self-explanatory. The fact that you don't die if you don't send any of your life force is rather obvious, it has clevely been hidden so far though. That's another plus for the show ^^. Though I wonder if the next enemy is going to resemble the hypothetically next pilot or if it's going to have a relation to Kirie again. |
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| I've started to doubt the theory ever since we knew for sure the other mechas were also piloted by people a came from parallel worlds. It's doesn't seem logical that Zearth's enemies would have something to do with Zearth's current pilot. Coz if so, Zearth should have to have some common aspect with each different mecha (with the pilot) he fought . I dunno, seems like a really long shot now. Unless there's some other fact we're not aware just yet. As for the episode in it self, it was chocking again. I really wanna start reading the manga once the show finishes, since I get the felling that the manga is even more crude in some aspects. The life force bit is interesting. But they can expect another enemy will commit suicide. But maybe there's a key for survival in this... we'll see. *goes watch episode 16* |
KayrhandrosSep 9, 2007 4:53 PM
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| I know why you doubt it, but I'll simply blame it on the complexity of the whole set up. Alien technologie, parallel dimensions and similar worlds, the whole thing is a completed story after all. I'll keep clinging to it. :D |
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| Well, maybe time will prove me wrong for doubting.. we'll see :). Need more eps, more eps! :P |
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Kayrhandros said: Need more eps, more eps! :P The Triad said the next release should be within a week. :) |
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cyruz said: That's awesome :)Kayrhandros said: Need more eps, more eps! :P The Triad said the next release should be within a week. :) |
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| Just watched, and damn how lucky were they. Cool ep, and now i go to watch the next one! |
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| As I thought it seems that naturally the fewer pilots there are the more mentally unstable they would become. The enemy had only five lights remaining on it's mask, in the same way that Kirie did the pilot must have had so much of a mental burden that he/she just couldn't except the fact that he/she would be putting an end to a world he/she didn't know so he decided to let his/her universe be destroyed instead. It was rather selfish of Kirie to decide to let the world die because he didn't like it, he should've at least covered himself by saying that he didn't want to put an end to the world of someone else. |
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| ^I remember seeing 4 remaining lights only. Kiefferdenn said: Lmao, epic episode.. I know I shouldn't be laughing but Kirie is absolute ownge.. "Mom? What are you doing cutting your wrists, and not the sweet jelly bean?" I'll never get over that xD.. Apologies for my rudeness but can't help it.. I couldn't believe it either; when Kirie went downstairs, and you saw the bloody knife, I first thought "Oh, you can cut your jelly things now!", and he followed up with "Mom? What are you doing cutting your wrists, and not the sweet bean jelly?" I was almost on the floor; Jun's reaction was more normal though, although most people would have probably gone crazy on Kirie instead. This episode really expressed how the selfish decisions by the rider can decide the fate of an entire world; the other team's rider had gone over the limit, and just couldn't take it. Kirie-kun isn't to that point yet, but I hope it makes him think: Maybe the world he's in, isn't the worst off. He only said "I won't move", he wasn't pushed to suicide to end the world. The other rider was in a far worst condition, which is worsened with the mental stress and burden from being in the Black Behemoths. This anime won't stop getting better; it's too good, oh god. |
「Godspeed You! Black Emperor」 |
| Winning without fighting eh. |
| Dung Beetle is a little asshole, I hope somone puts a bullet in his little stuffed-animal body at least, though I doubt that's his true form and killing it would do nothing more than inconvenience him. The robots do seem to have a connection to the pilots, though yes, it makes little sense that Zearth also represents something abt the enemy pilot (and maybe not the same thing every time). THe line about the knife was very awkward, LOL, but gave us more insight into this quiet kid than anything so far. I'm glad he got another episode or two to develop his character before he gives up his life-force to fight. That was pretty amazing, watching the enemy mecha rip open its chest-plate (in a move that seemed to homage the end of Diebuster) and destroy its own cockpit. I wonder if that was a group decision by their pilots not to destroy any more Earths, or if the other pilots were screaming at him/her to fight like they were at Kirie. |
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كنت تهدر وقتك عن طريق ترجمة هذه. mattbenz99 said: Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing |
| There must be other versions of the Dung Beatle in the other robots. It seems unfair that some universe get weaker robots to fight in. |
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| am I the only one who feel bad for Kirie? His story is really sad... |
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| Pretty gloomy and depressive episode although on the other side with this new character it sure made it a bit more fun and well the mother of Ushiro seems to be Miho or at least that was implied in this episode! |
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| I'm guessing most people thought we would get the {pilot chosen, backstory,fight, death} formula like I was? At least this show isn't very predictable? |
| all i can think about saying is: what the fk? so yeah what the fk i seriously wish we got a chance to see the other pilot's most likely cacophonious cockpit fight, because there were at least five lights lit on the engravings. if kirie's somewhat suicide by forfeit was any indicator, i doubt everyone in the other robot was accepting it readily either. isn't it kind of dangerous to allow one pilot the power to indirectly cause the end of their whole world. i mean, imagine one nihilistic guy signs up for the contract and near the end it's his turn. what is he gonna do? that's right, bend humanity's stomach over a longinus spear. and he'd want to. the "mom, instead of cutting the yōkan, what do you think you're doing cutting your wrists?" (it sounds more long-winded in english...) reminds me of the scene from inuyashiki where she asks him if her father and little brother are dead too and he just goes, "what does that matter? we were talking about one piece." hella funny that he handed the sweet over as if it was a gift rather than to be eaten now hahaha. anyways, chubby was lucky this time. i assume he's going to be convinced to fight or gain a new sense of salvation from further encounters with the rest of the pilots. |
| this was definitely an episode. Surprised by the enemy pilot tho. It makes sense but still shocking. |
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