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Apr 17, 2017 6:02 PM

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I just watched the movie I didn't like the characters design but the story line was amazing the plot twist of timid and tearful Ame abandoning his humanity and become an animal was huge suprise.I wanted him to see his sisters graduation ceremony or at least visit his lonely mother but sadly I don't think he will return to his human form ever again.
Apr 18, 2017 10:31 PM
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8/10 an excellent well animated and enjoyable fantasy drama that has human emotion, some humor, feeling and all that.
Apr 24, 2017 9:29 PM
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NegativeOtaku said:
If you don't mind beastiality (thankfully the sex part wasn't shown), its a beautiful film, still beastiality though.

Why say beastality? humans are animal beings too and can love whoever different species/race of person they want as long as they are consenting adults. And what makes Roger Rabbit and Jessica, Eliza and Goliath, Regular Show with Eilen/Rigby (one a mole person and a raccoon person) with Margaret's parents one being a human man and a humanoid bird woman, Vastra/Jenny on Doctor Who, Star Wars/Star Trek, Hepzibah/Corsair on X-Men TAS/Marvel comics etc. no different than in this movie in terms of interspecies romance for there is nothing wrong with interspecies romance.

For 30 years since i was 5 years old when i saw Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures (the Ralph Bakshi and John K one)'s episode The Littlest Tramp where it had a sexy blonde mouse lady who married a human rich man as they even kissed after the wedding, Beauty and the Beast the TV show with Ron Perlman and Linda Hamilton (i had a thing for her back then) with Catherine/Vincent (a beast man who resembles a lion even with fur/claws and born that way), Splash with Tom Hanks/Daryl Hanna which has a human man and a mermaid in love, Star Trek The Next Generation then later Alien Nation and so much more showed me that love isn't just the same species/race you know.

Marvel has plenty of that as you have Howard The Duck (an interdimensional duck Being) and a human woman named Beverly Switzler, Lilandra and Xavier (mutant man and alien bird woman who's race evolved from some species of alien bird), Hepzibah and Corsair (Cyclop's human space pirate father and an alien furry skunk-cat woman), Gamora and any alien man or human etc. and that's what i love about Marvel is they don't judge odd romances as love is love you know.

Now take Regular Show for example with Eillen and Rigby are great examples as they love each other for who they are and not what they are, for appearance and species don't matter as one is a mole person and one is a raccoon person. I'm glad they finally got married at the end and have a family, same goes for Frank and Denise whom one is a humanoid bird woman and one a human man which i'm very proud the creator of this show had guts to do and did it nicely. Frank and Denise reminds me of a similar interspecies couple being Roger and Jessica Rabbit from Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

Recent examples of interspecies love is Vastra and Jenny on Doctor Who which has an earth alien lizard woman who is lesbian married to a human woman, i'm proud of that they did too and shows love isn't just the same species/race of being.

Afterall i am a furry and do support inter-species/inter-being romances in comics, games, Science Fiction/Fantasy stories/books/movies/shows, fanfiction, art, animation etc. but ONLY if they are humanoid Being, sentient/sapient being, alien being, magical creature being (ala mermaid or gargoyle or elf or vampire etc.) or mutant being which is OK as they can consent and similar to us in some ways with body structure/parts/height/emotions/feelings etc. but NEVER to a 4 legged ordinary regular feral animal creature like say if a man does it with a regular everyday plain ordinary 4 legged Beagle, than that would be beastality as it's a thing that can't consent to Beings you know nor is a humanoid or a Being in general.

Now on Bojack Horseman in that universe humans and anthro humanoids co-exist plus it's legal for anthro humanoids to romance/marry different ones even with humans like Charolette and Kyle for example a deer humanoid woman and a human man married and have kids. The same thing applies to the Marvel lovers i mentioned.

Another example, Minerva Mink and a human man in a story series i'm reading, i mean both are sapient mammal beings who are consenting adults as she is a humanoid mink woman with parts/all like a human's even breasts underneath the fur/tail/ears with all that plus high intelligence/can think/similar DNA like a human's and all even for romantic with the man and can get married in their world and produce children even half-mink person half-human hybrids or if the children end up the same species/race as the mother.

I mean there is plenty of inter-species or inter-being romances like Cheetah/Batman on Justice League, Kit Mambo/Rene on Animalympics, Sonic and Sally, Nick/Judy on Zootopia, Star Trek/Wars alien species/races of Beings romancing other races/species of Alien beings even human beings, InuYasha and Kagome, Hellboy/Liz, Tankgirl/Booga, Aragon/Arwen (human and elf), Charlene and Vinnie on Biker Mice from Mars, Roger Rabbit and Jessica and more.

I believe in comics/games/animation/Science Fiction & fantasy stories & books & movies and shows/fanfiction etc. that people should have the right to love whoever person they want to love and the word "people" doesn't mean just human but just Being in general and as long as they are consenting adults. I am a very open minded person and when i read a book/graphic novel/fanfiction story or watch a movie/TV show or play a game i go into the world into escapism to be drawn into the stories.

As Prince Lir in Peter S Beagle's The Last Unicorn (ever read that Book and seen that movie folks?) once said when he found out by the magician Schmendrick about the loveliest girl Lir ever laid eyes on and romanced known as Lady Amalthea is a humanized unicorn that is her secret "Unicorn, mermaid, sorceress, lamia, gorgon, vampire, werewolf, gargoyle, elf, name you could give her would surprise OR frighten me...i love whom i love" which is one of my favorite quotes, and do you know what Lir meant by it?
May 6, 2017 11:22 PM

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First of all, I regret holding off on having watched this because of my silly aversion to anthropomorphic anime. I should have listened to my wife, who saw this film last year and loved it. Well I finally watched it, and, while some aspects were "odd" for me, the work is a masterpiece of the beauty of nature and the spirit of rural Japan, a part of the world that beckons me, as if to say "home".

At times, the animation was groundbreaking. The rain streaming off the roof, the clouds, the run through the snow. I wondered how they did it so fluidly, yet not having it look CG.

From what I can tell, this film is set in Toyama Prefecture. It's north of Gifu, and borders the western coast of the main island, Honshu. The west coast gets heavy snow in winter, because of the moisture from the sea. It's a gorgeous area. And, as portrayed in the film, the people are rugged, but caring.

A brother and sister choose separate paths. In a way, it was sad that Ame chose to live as a wolf, but in another way, if that is the destiny that he is most comfortable with, then so be it. Yuki chose the human way. And I think we know who she will marry later on. They are two peas in a pod, the same in spirit, yet complimentary in personalities.

A lovely story, with a lot of the best human elements in it. Every time I see a film like this, it reaffirms that humans have the capacity to be wonderful creatures.
Jun 7, 2017 12:56 AM

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That was the most heart warming story i enjoyed because i was raised by a single parents too. We were like those little wolves comparing our behavior. I loved this movie but Ame disappointed me when he went to the wild and decided to be an animal. I guess Yuki really wanted to be human and even going to Middle school to embrace her form. Hana was the star of the show really.
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Jul 15, 2017 12:29 PM

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A fantastic, wondrous and awe-inspiring journey, to sum it all up. Seriously, it was just this good. Had their been a better display of animation and art especially towards the beginning and a more impactful and memorable ost, I'm sure this show would have been present in the top 5 anime movie rankings through the MAL rating system. Well, it's not like that's what hinders this movie at all even in the slightest, trust me. Ookami Kodomo no Ame to Yuki brings to us a flawless and pure story of the importance of family. Hana, the mother, would do anything and I mean anything to support her children and make sure to find an environment to their liking. She travelled to the countryside abondoning her bright future in the cities with scholarships and etc to a countryside where the hardships of life simply keeps tumbling upon her. Yet she perseveres and strives to live even in the harshest of days for the sake of her beloved half human, half wolf like children. It's actually hard to put it in words since the beauty of the story can only be expressed through the movie honestly. While it is sort of true many say that the ending was incomplete and too open, it still does well enough to conclude things firmly I reckon. It truly was a big shock to see Ame take the initiative to be wolf-like instead of Yuki for various reasons, however it portrayed this wonderfully. Even I was sobbing when that eventful morning scene came in, but I think that last moment among mother and son was perfect as it was. Now that Ame already left in order to lead the forests or however you'd like to put it, it would be very odd and unreasonable had he come back again to human form or at least that's what I personally got from the movie. On the other hand, Yuki seemed to have been carrying on with her human-like life graduating and moving on which is great to see. Personally, if Yuki were to be leading the forests, I imagine it'd be a very hard time for her prey to survive in(Lol, that's what I first thought as the movie ended). All that said, I was kind of disappointed that Ame and Yuki never got to sort things among them and I don't think they will ever even meet again so that really is depressing and therefore slightly disappointing.
Overall, it's amazing!
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Aug 19, 2017 6:58 PM
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I finally decided to pick this up after constant debate and man what a tearjerker. I cried throughout the movie and the whole ending song. The feels were real. What a great movie
Aug 27, 2017 9:24 AM

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Their story was very sweet but Hana getting laid with him in his wolf form instead of his human form was pretty weird to think about. I suppose the thing is that she loves him enough to make love with him twice regardless of appearance which is touching~

Poor dad jumped into a storm drain while chasing dinner and died too soon ;-; Seeing the werewolf siblings fight each other savagely because of their opposing views on life while destroying the whole house was hard to watch...and pretty much opened my eyes on how me and my siblings fighting causes collateral damage similar to that.

Witnessing the house renovation and rural struggles step-by-step was a very nice way of showing how diligent Hana can be, a fun watch as well ♥

Even after it took so much to raise them, looking back on it only felt like yesterday~ (No, it's not because of the movie length '^' ) As long as they're happy with doing what they want, it's fine since that was what Hana and Wolfguy wanted in the first place~

Sep 1, 2017 3:58 AM

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I don't even know what to say to this movie. I was told that most likely I was going to cry watching this which I DID; when that werewolf guy died for I don't know what reason. And seriously we didn't find out what exactly was the reason why he died. And that was the only moment where I cried, but the rest made me laugh, and pissed me off.

This movie had a lot of potential to be great, but the moment it's about to reach its ending, I really wanted it to end fast because turns out like Ame's become a rebellious kid who doesn't like to live with his family anymore and just be a lone werewolf in the forest because his fucking master died who I don't even think is a significant character.

This movie kinda pissed me off, but I'm still rating it 8 for its precious moments while Yuki and Ame were growing up, and Hana's dedication as a mother that happened in this movie.

I guess Ame hitting his head changed him? How about we bang his head against the wall to make him realize that he's being a rebellious sissy, and yeah his mom just let him do what he wants because it's the natural thing to do. Idk that scene with Ame just made me hate this movie. Ugh.

This movie had a lot of great moments, but more of a bad and annoying moments. I really enjoyed 1/2 of it, but the remaining 1/2 of it pissed me off.

Modified by TheDoggoneGirl, Sep 1, 2017 8:11 AM
Sep 22, 2017 12:28 PM

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F.U Ame !!! Ungrateful bastard.
Sep 25, 2017 8:07 PM

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Pretty neat movie. Honestly the only part where I felt kind of emotional though was when they tossed the dad's corpse into a garbage truck.

Like I can't even imagine what that would feel like, lmao.
Oct 2, 2017 5:56 AM

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Was Hana ever happy after getting pregnant with the werewolf?
Hana gets pregnated and is obligated to abandon her studies and dreams to look after her childrens.
Then Werewolf died and Hana need to moves to the middle of nowhere (without money, job, friends)
At the end of the movie her son and daughter abandoned her to live their proper lifes.
Hana stayed alone forever.

What a sad life. To meet the Werewolf was a mistake for her whole life.

5/10 movie. I don't know why people like this.
Oct 11, 2017 10:33 AM

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I really liked the movie. It was almost too furryish for me. And I struggled with the wolf kids at first. Especially Yukki's insanity. But ultimately I thought it was an engaging and emotional film. And I really liked how it was about the mother. Mother's are props and plot devices in anime. And for a film to actually focus on the growth and story of a single mother was kind of lovely. I wish it had ended a little more happily for her. Maybe we knew she still had a good relationship with her daughter? Beyond that one picture. The fact neither of her kids were that old. And she already viewed raising them as a fairy tale was kind of really sad to me.

But forreal what a great Mom. Probably the best Mom in anime. I'm glad there was never any serious scenes where like the police or government were trying to lock her up and take her kids away. Just a pleasant film about a single mom doing her best. With a few completely heart breaking scenes scattered in.
Nov 29, 2017 2:24 AM

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Now that was good, realistic (fantasy themes aside) movie. Hana's a great mom and person. I liked younger Yuki more than the older one, but ye nice plot twists with growing up themes. Some parts annoyed me, but thats how realistic the movie was. A solid 8 for me.
Dec 12, 2017 11:23 PM
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meh. 7/10

Things that worked against this film

-Husband doesnt have decency to return to human shape for intercourse.

-Husband decides to go full retard...i mean....full wolf form inside a busy metropolitan city and just dies for no reason. Should have made it where he is killed in the woods by some hunters. Husband dying in full wolf form in the city is inexplicably dumb.

-Ame is a selfish bastard that barely had any character to him before he decides to go full wolf but neither the mom nor Yuki ever call him out on it. Yuki sort of fights him for it but that was the end of the discussion.

-The story needed more Yuki. The movie really shined when Yuki and her mom had daily interactions between them and also when they worked together. Yuki and the transfer student friend also needed more story exploration. Their relationship got pretty freaking interesting and even got a nice scene together sharing Yuki's secret. Instead, i feel like time was taken away from her story, because it ended suddenly, for Ame's boring story. In fact, i think it would have been better for the movie if Ame had never been introduced.

-What was the purpose of Yuki being the narrator of the story? I thought perhaps she was telling the story to her children but there was nothing to it.

-I hate how fast the director wrapped up the movie when everything else was pretty slow moving. Reminds me of 12 episode animes where episodes 1 to 10 is just slowly advancing the story and then all of a sudden they want to wrap up everything in 2 episodes.

Dec 25, 2017 4:12 PM

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Just watched this after getting the movie as a present for the holidays. I enjoyed it for the most part, the first 30 mins was indeed rushed but I do understand with this being a movie they had to get that in with as little time as possible since it's mainly about her raising wolf children.

The ending I don't think a lot of people get why Hana actually stays in that house after her children have grown up. Ame is still somewhere close in the wild as she can hear his howl at the end so she probably stays there to still feel close to him.

One last thing is I do dislike how Ame just goes off into the wild with no regard to his mother's feelings. He didn't even really consider how his mother felt about it and the fact that she already lost her husband and him going off was just a double stab to Hana.

Oh, and anyone disliking this movie due to him staying in wolf form during the love scene at the start that is just ridiculous to hate a form of fiction because IRL morals. I find it odd that no ones has problem with "cat" girl love scenes but is simply giving this move a 1/10 because of one 5 second scene where she makes love to him in his true form.
Mar 15, 4:08 PM
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I really enjoyed this movie. It is full of heartwarming and poignant moments without making you feel like a dried husk of corn afterwards. Although truly speaking, the ending was disappointing. I was left with so many questions about Yuki and her life, as well as rage at Ame's actions.

I loved the soundtrack! It fit all the scenes perfectly without being too obvious or forcefully telling you what to feel. The animation was also very good but sometimes I felt like that characters were paper people walking around inside pretty pictures.

Despite all, this movie was worth every minute. Hana is a likable character and her story is told in a dignified sort of way that makes you root for her.
Mar 21, 3:07 AM

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lmao what a train wreck. i don't even want to rant all the bad stuff.
Apr 1, 8:33 AM
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Wolf Children is one of my most favorite movies but the part where the father dies is confusing. It's really bothering me like in the scene before he said the skies the limit for her and that it's up to them yo make it happen. Then his son is born and he dies?! Why does he die?! How?!
Aug 23, 8:41 AM

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I don't understand why people are resentful to the fact that Ame ended up leaving, or the people calling it stupid or him "ungrateful". I feel like the most basic point of the film flew over their head...? The whole film at it's core was about how Hana, by herself, managed to raise two children that are neither human nor wolf, but both; despite the two sides of them being unable to properly coexist in our world (their father was the example of this made right from the start). It was put rather plainly that they would either mature into one or the other, partly as a result of how Hana went about raising them (also) RIGHT from the start: by ultimately giving them the choice and not forcing them on the matter. It was up to them which life they wanted to live, and at the end Ame chose to live the life of a wolf, and Yuki the life of a human. And Ame did exactly what the only wolf would in his circumstance, and went to (in an attempt) form his own pack/manage his own territory and leave his litter behind. The main conflict here, and why it ended up being so difficult in the end, was because Hana greatly underestimated just how hard it would be to "send-off" one of her children like that. As any human mother would, she struggled with the thought of losing her son in that way.
All throughout the film with both her husband and children, she tried her best to understand and accept them and that wolf side of theirs, and she did eventually accept this too. I thought the film did a good job of also bringing the audience to that... but I guess not?

WolfChildrenLove said:
Wolf Children is one of my most favorite movies but the part where the father dies is confusing. It's really bothering me like in the scene before he said the skies the limit for her and that it's up to them yo make it happen. Then his son is born and he dies?! Why does he die?! How?!

I actually thought that was really great and unique of the film. People die from stupid accidents and unknown circumstances all the time, that's one of the many tough parts of life. It's cruel and truly unfair. Not everyone has some super tragic, interesting, conclusive or even meaningful death... One of my teachers as a kid, who was a perfectly healthy 20-something, popular with all, died from falling down the stairs... This film is about realizing life as it is, accepting the terrible shit that happens to you, moving on and making the most of it (in this case for the sake of who you've lost). For me that death was as perfect as it could be thematically. A death that's sudden and without proper closure (as many are in nature) is one of the hardest and toughest things for anyone to accept, and at least for me, how she dealt with it made me admire Hana even more.

And in-terms of why he went out in that wolf form, as many here also have a problem with, you've got to realise that he was half human AND half wolf. He isn't like or comparable to us. Presumably he had a strong instinct to go out and "hunt"/gather for his newly born kids. And that was his wolf side speaking, so I can't see why he wouldn't also take the form. It was shown that when the kids let their wolf-side's come through (mentally and socially, i.e. when Yuki was being "chased" by the boy), it was very hard for them to stop the form also coming through.

Varete7 said:
Was Hana ever happy after getting pregnant with the werewolf?
Hana gets pregnated and is obligated to abandon her studies and dreams to look after her childrens.
Then Werewolf died and Hana need to moves to the middle of nowhere (without money, job, friends)
At the end of the movie her son and daughter abandoned her to live their proper lifes.
Hana stayed alone forever.

What a sad life. To meet the Werewolf was a mistake for her whole life.

5/10 movie. I don't know why people like this.

If you seriously watched this film in it's entirety and are really questioning whether Hana was happy and if she regretted what time she spent with Ookami, and then the children he gave her, then I don't even know what to say to you. I'm actually at a loss for words, well done. I've seen few showcase such a lack of basic empathy. And how or why do you immediately correlate a difficult life with one not worth living?
Modified by Zaugr, Aug 23, 9:14 AM
Aug 25, 10:08 AM

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Zaugr said:

If you seriously watched this film in it's entirety and are really questioning whether Hana was happy and if she regretted what time she spent with Ookami, and then the children he gave her, then I don't even know what to say to you. I'm actually at a loss for words, well done. I've seen few showcase such a lack of basic empathy. And how or why do you immediately correlate a difficult life with one not worth living?

I watched this movie a long time ago.
The only thing I remember was the sad and hard life that Hana had.
And at the end of the film, her two children left her and left her living in the middle of nowhere working in the field alone.
But I should rewatch the movie to answer you better
Aug 27, 8:43 AM
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So Mamoru hosoda wrote the script with Satoko okudera or Satoko okudera wrote it alone and or Hosoda wrote it alone? I'm confused
Nov 6, 5:44 PM
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I loved this heartfelt story. It was beautiful
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