AKB0048 Episode 13 Discussion
Jul 23, 2012 11:24 PM
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I love how this scene mirror the OP. It's just awesome :3
It was cheesy but the ending was good. They brought all the understudy characters together pretty well and even though Nagisa sort of lost her lead status with another money-making opportunity season it should do more with the story.
AKB made 200 million USD in just music sales and endorsements last year. This anime isn't even promoted or on major TV stations despite AKB having pulls so it's not that high on the priority list for management or they would try to promote the show more..and i'm kinda pissed they're not. <__<
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The thing with this show is it's a straight ball. It take itself seriously despite the crazy premise. You're either on board with how they can make all the craziness work or it's just too crazy for you.
Beside there's a plot. Everything build up to the mystery of center nova, Sensei, Kiraras, succession, and the girl's struggle. T
here's too short a time to start develop on all characters but that's why there's a 2nd season.
I'm a bit disappointed that we couldn't see Nagisa promoted to Acchan. Oh well...
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Jul 24, 2012 10:09 PM
This show was fucking bad. None of the characters are good and there are way too many of them, the fight scene choreography is laughable, and the actresses put on a terrible performance. The root of all of these problems is that the directing in general is just a complete failure, every single dramatic scene that even has a remote bit of promise is ruined by either DRAMATIC STILL FRAME PANOVER or a hammy line of dialog that is delivered poorly, among other things. If you turn off your brain, the concert fight scenes fair a bit better despite their horrible choreography that doesn't make any sense. There are only like 3 of them though, and the non-concert fighting scenes are boring and dumb.
On the good side, this show has some supremely beautifully crafted worlds and environments and some really impressive machinery (the non-CG stuff anyway). It was far easier on the eyes to look past all the dull pandering character designs (how many fucking hearts can you cram onto one character) and see all the gorgeous landscaping, so for that I can give it plenty of credit. I hope the french artist who worked on them will do some other, better anime. Preferably one that's not about little girls trying to take on the identity of someone they are not for the benefit of a group.
Modified by Pfhor, Jul 24, 2012 10:22 PM
Jul 24, 2012 11:00 PM
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If the show had primarily focused on these girls going to a new planet every one or two episodes and having their guerrilla concerts then it probably would have been pretty solid since the concerts were the only parts that really embraced how silly and ridiculous the entire concept of the series was. It's not a coincidence that the first episode, the Russian snow-planet, and the finale were the best episodes.
The inclusion of the completely unexplained 'mysterious' plot with Sensei-Sensei and all that jazz and the complete absence of an attempt to even get into it was a pretty big failing. Yeah, there's a season two coming, but what if the show hadn't sold? You'd be left with absolutely no resolution - leaving that many plot elements completely open in the hopes that you get more episodes to answer them is just bad writing. Most of the character conflict and dramatic situations were about as cliche as they come too.
Like Pfhor said the show just felt crowded character-wise a lot of the time. Chieri and Kanata were pretty decently developed and were at least interesting, while Nagisa was just bland and didn't even really have an arc to speak of. They didn't give themselves enough room to develop such a big cast (had to have that fan-service episode of course). The idol VA's could sing just fine but for the most part they couldn't carry the emotional scenes at all, not that the dialogue helped them out at all.
That being said, it did have some really great backgrounds and nicely detailed environments, and I enjoyed the concert scenes a lot. I can't deny that I had fun watching it, even if a lot of it was at the show's expense. If you're a really big AKB fan then I can see how you would get a lot more out of it. But for the show to take itself as seriously as it did and then fail so hard on the drama, plot, and characters just left it with too big a hole for me to consider it all that good.
Looking forward to season two!
P.S. Some of the songs were catchy as hell.
Modified by Yanqui, Jul 25, 2012 8:44 PM
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Jul 25, 2012 2:15 PM
The heck you are, a masochist?
This show is not recommended for those expecting DEEP, SERIOUS, CLEAN, COHERENT, PURE ART, TRUE and the BEAUTIFUL.
This is a show for those who simply want some fun, not SRSFKNBNZ. Otherwise the pretentious are definite comedy gold.
I didn't WANT it to be serious or deep, the writers of the show tried to do that themselves. They took a horribly silly premise and tried to play it completely straight with countless drama scenes and struggling characters. This would have been fine if they had the talent to make you feel anything for these characters, but they don't really. If it had been just straight up idol fighting magic in beautiful worlds with solid static characters it would have been far more fun to watch.
So basically they tried to do way too much and weren't good enough to do it. In cases like this its probably better to just keep it simple.
Jul 25, 2012 6:14 PM
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chinhnt2k3 said:You are not alone ^^
Anyone actually got to like the band after watching the anime like me? :D
Lol I was already a big AKB48 fan.
I was worried when I first found out they were basing an anime off them. My thought was "can an anime reflect the greatness that is AKB?" I was worried it would be a sub-standard anime that tried to get by off of the group's music, but I glad my worries never came to pass.
My score may very well be biased by my being an AKB fanboy but I gave it a solid 9/10.
I can't wait for the next season. 2013 can't come soon enough... ^_^
Modified by Tenko_Ranchi, Jul 25, 2012 6:19 PM
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THE ALL BE CENTER NOVAE!
Jul 26, 2012 1:13 PM
While none of the cast come close to my list of top 10 characters, I still had some feeling towards them. Most of their stories I actually found to be very touching. The fact that Chieri's family was involved with DES, I felt that. Nagisa having her father imprisoned because of her involvement with AKB, I felt that too. Mamoru x Yuuka, definitely felt that!
The style that this anime follows involves putting emphasis on multiple characters and not just one. There may be people that do not like this style, they would rather see at least one character shine and give a feeling of admiration for. What this anime gives you is not the potency of one character, but a good overall feel of many, which is something I personally prefer and is therefore why I hold this anime in such a high regard.
I am by no means regarding how you feel about this anime to be distasteful, everyone has their likes and dislikes, but I just do not enjoy the site of my favorite 2012 anime getting bashed on in this manor.
In a vacuum, the idea that Nagisa got her father imprisoned is a fine character struggle to overcome at the end, and so is Chieru's family involvement with DES, or the Orine's drill that turned out to be a weapon. The problem ends up being there is no consistent arc towards these story's endings, so when they happen it's hard for me to care. There is emphasis on the wrong characters, the episodes waste so much time with AKB mythology and characters that don't even get much screentime in the final episodes that it underdevelops the ones that do. Not to mention a lot of the performances are really subpar, things like Orine's scream when she found the drill or Nagisa's poorly acted crying throughout the entire show really hurt it. Of course characters are a matter of taste, so is everything else, I don't think it really matters if I'm biased. I do, however, try to give every character a fair chance to win me over in the shows I watch for whatever that is worth. It's not that I'm against having a group of characters either, there are so many shows I enjoy that have a lot of characters. AKB just does it poorly, that's all.
You are right though, it's unfair to blame the writers. The head writer of this show wrote Anohana, a show that I really enjoyed. It's also a good example of how to handle multiple characters in a short amount of time. I won't really bother trying to pinpoint what went wrong with AKB from a production side of things, it was probably a lot of things. Love that background art though.
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When started watching this i wasnt even aware of akb48. But a few episodes ago i got tired of the series and quit it. and then i decided to check out the real idol group. After a few weeks im a huge fan especially love akbingo. Oshiemen Sayaka. So in that little time it went from a series i watched just for the heck of it to watching the finaly with tears in my eyes. great series even before i was fan just not my cup of tea but now i love this anime and akb. They do kind of look like there name sake. I even forgot the name who it was that tsubusa was trying to find out what happen to bu tafter seeing her i said aachan and then the sub title showed up
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Didn't expect to enjoy this as much as I did. I don't follow real life idols at all but they work well for me in anime form at least. Went in with relatively low expectations (though I was aware of some praise people had given it), but got something where nearly all characters were likeable and even the story was handled decently (at least, probably as well as a story about galactic entertainment bans and mechanized idols can be). I guess it doesn't hurt that I like j-pop. Someone who dislikes j-pop would probably be annoyed with the show.
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