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bastek66Jul 19, 2012 1:34 PM
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| Love how the new OP clearly is modeled after E7's first op but...*sigh* Renton's coming back is all but assured, I mean who else could that dude be next to Eureka? I just hope he matured a lot...I hope. If he does, I'll definitely call this sequel/whatever it is a success as Renton was a bit unbearable to watch in the first series (in my opinion) Will rewatch with subs, but good to see Naru getting the spotlight. Also great to see Elena finally show a different attitude besides her otaku tendencies, hope she's somehow related to Anemone. |
apolloisfineJul 19, 2012 12:59 PM
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bastek66 said: New OP by Flow at last. I'm glad to see that the new opening is by Flow. Renton also looks kinda cool for once, which is nice. The one thing that surprised me was that the Nirvash Spec-V was shown in the opening, especially since the movie was in an alternate universe. |
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| OMG. IS THAT RENTON IN THE OPENING?! *Edit* So after watching this week's episode, I guess I'm somewhat confused. Some questions are answered while others leave us hanging wondering what could be the possible answer. We were told that Eureka was pregnant with a girl not a boy, speculating that Ao has an older sister. We were also told that Renton was fighting for the survival of Ao and Eureka. He most likely is responsible for the creation of the Mark I. He most likely created the Mark I to defend from "enemies" hence showing another destroyed Mark I after Ao transported Eureka off (THE POWER OF PARADOX). Haven't heard a single thing about the book from Johanson... (the book most likely is going to play a huge part in the series) Naru knows of the Scub Coral and its beginnings. It was shown that she apparently went into the future (Eureka 7 world i think) and somewhat communicated with the Scub Coral (she also saw Eureka). Earlier in the episode we also saw that the Nirvash typeZero denied Eureka and is now being piloted by Truth / Naru (THE BETRAYAL MANG). Don't think we are given information why it acted like this. Additionally, also earlier in the episode we saw a pissed off Elena at Eureka for some unknown reason. Some have believed that she is pissed because Eureka left her in this world (she could be the older "sister" of Ao). I actually do think that Renton will be featured soon in the series since they showed him in the opening. I definitely feel that he is going to return soon and take part in the main plot alongside Ao / Eureka. Let's cross our fingers and hope that he is not soloely included in the last episode. Overall, it was a solid episode that left us viewers with many questions and hypotheses. But I thought this episode was definitely slower than the past two but alot more informative. Like always, I am still overall extremely excited for next week's episode! :D TL;DR 1.) Eureka returns to her world - pregnant with baby girl (possibly Elena / Naru?) 2.) Destroyed Mark I is shown after Eureka is transported back 3.) Renton is supposedly fighting for the survival of Eureka / Ao (this may be the reason why there was a destroyed Mark I) 4.) Naru being a b*tch and all / piloting Nirvash typeZero with Truth a.) She could possibly be one of the "starters" of the Scub Coral b.) Seems to know the truth behind everything c.) Practically ignores the vision of Eureka (Eureka tells Naru to stop Ao from destroying the Scub Coral I believe?) Possible questions for future episodes: 1.) Mark I vs Nirvash typeZero for the rest of the series? 2.) Who is the older "sister" of Ao? 3.) Nirvash TypeZero Spec - V in the OP? Could it be the "special" form of the Mark I? 4.) SHOW US RENTON? Gekkostate, Anemone, Dominic? (unlikely / minor part but would be cool) 5.) Explanation behind Naru's / Truth's actions? Who is Truth? Humanoid Secret? (may have been explained. feel free to reply back and answer it since I might have missed it) 6.) Gazelle's actions in future episodes? (definitely feel he is gonna play a part) 7.) What is under Generation Blue? Possible typeTheEnd? (typeTheZero weapons look awfully similar...) 8.) Time Paradox? (always reminds me of the Flash and Professor Zoom from DC) |
ChuphenjJul 20, 2012 8:23 AM
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| Wow Renton looks cool in the opening....... |
| Wow Renton looks much older, cooler too, though Im somehow gonna miss that immature whiny kid that couldnt do anything right. He looks very much older now, Cant wait to see new OP gotta wait for subs. Bleh. |
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| From what I read about it seems that Ao has two years older sister. It may be Elena somehow. |
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| Flow for the win. |
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| New OP and ED!! He's sending his mother back, but everyone's already there. Eureka's Nilversh moved on its own! Eureka provided the weapon that he was unable to to his Nilversh. What?! The baby inside her is a girl? Secret coming out with purpose of wanting to kill, which is that weird plant? The boy's curious about father and sister. Childhood girl is now with horn and not like usual. The soldier said the dangerous thing is in her lung, so she is to be killed. Not only her, he also considers him as enemy. Truth got that Nilversh that moved on its own, and she rode it. |
tsubasaloverJul 19, 2012 3:29 PM
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| How do Truth and Naru have the typeZero now? Didn't Truth started destroying it while falling, and didn't it go back with Eureka in its half-destroyed form? And why does it let itself be piloted by Naru (I feel a little betrayed)? It must have some reason, right? I also don't really know how I feel about typeZero being the "main enemy" according to the OP, but it's probably doing the right thing. I hope. It was good to see Renton in the OP, but I'm not sure I like the changes. I'm one of those people who really liked Renton in the first series. I also wonder what they will do about this voice, because he was voiced by a voice actress, and it would probably sound stupid if he was still voiced by her, even though he is an adult. But it really wouldn't feel like I'm looking at Renton if his voice was different. And the Gekko is totally abandoned now. It's kinda sad. I'm also interested in typeTheEnd. We saw that it's in the basement of Generation Blue, but will it actually have a role? I also noticed while rewatching E7 that the antibody coralians' attacks are similar to the ones used by the secret in the episode where Ao didn't have Nirvash. |
| How come no one mentioned those 3 adopted kids yet? aw well i'm sure they will reveal everything later. |
| I don't even know what to say. I mean, Eureka having a second child? A girl, who is his sis. The whole way it was managed in the episode makes it feel like Naru is the sister. However it pissed me off how her behavior changed, she even denied Eureka's wishes (what a bitch!). So I guess that Eureka is from the future then, since Naru explained pretty much what will happen in Eureka Seven. It feels like Steins;Gate all over with the time travel and the fighting. Since Eureka also mentioned that Renton is fighting, probably means there is a war, but how will that tie with the past that Ao is living in? So many mysteries, I look forward to seeing how it all ends! |
| Its starting to feel like Naru really has something to do with the how the corallians came to thrive on earth (in their own sence of the word) Maybe the corallian inside of her (or how should I say it) is the purpose to her being able to pilot the nirvash, perhaps she is a very distent ancestor to Renton, and the specific genes of hers are the key. |
| Naru pisses me off rofl. Always had, always will. Renton looks pretty cool in the New Op and nice song by Flow once again. Hard time grasping everything though.. |
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| We uncover mysteries just to get more! Awesome! -.-.....No not really..... Kinda lame to be honest....but whatever.... I liked Naru in the beginning, but now i just want to smack her across the face. I don't care what Truth is, he deserves to be given the worst form of punishment. Also, I'm guessing they took the parts off of theEnd and put it on the Nirvash.....I can't say that it's not a little disturbing, because honestly with it now the Nirvash seems to be more sinister with theEnd's weapons. This episode was ok....but I'd rather not have them make more loose ends after we've covered a few. |
Ahri said: We uncover mysteries just to get more! Awesome! -.-.....No not really..... Kinda lame to be honest....but whatever.... I liked Naru in the beginning, but now i just want to smack her across the face. I don't care what Truth is, he deserves to be given the worst form of punishment. Also, I'm guessing they took the parts off of theEnd and put it on the Nirvash.....I can't say that it's not a little disturbing, because honestly with it now the Nirvash seems to be more sinister with theEnd's weapons. This episode was ok....but I'd rather not have them make more loose ends after we've covered a few. They can throw a million more loose ends at me; I don't mind. I only care that, in the end, they're answered. If not, then let the question posed have some sort of rhetorical nature. Anyways, great episode -- while some questions were answered, we certainly got some more to chew on (delicious ones, as usual). Perhaps what I find most interesting is the "black" Mark V seen in the new OP -- it seems they're somehow going to implement the movie's multiverse into the fray, along with the original and AO's own respective worlds. This is... ambitious, to say the least. We could get something incredibly awesome from this. Conversely, however, there's that many more opportunities for the series to fail - the story's getting incredibly complex with all the interweaving timelines and dimensional mindfuckery; it's going to take some masterful storytelling to neatly wrap it all up in the end (especially if it ends up being 25/26 episodes). Greatly looking forward to next Thursday, as always. |
nebuchadrezzar said: So... secrets are protecting this world... omg I was right after all ^^. Is Elena truly AO's sister? Can't wait to see more! Now the most interesting thing in this episode was the opening. Not because of "FLOW" (nice song anyway), but: 1. Renton got fancy gloves... and his hair... a wisp appears to be...gray? ( how old is he? 40+ ??) 2. New 3 IFO's ... 3. Dark Nirvash spec 4 ??? 4. Nirvash mk.1 vs Nirvash typeZero (for the rest of the series?) 1. A gray-streak can be caused by moments of intense stress (see: Berserk's Guts, or Evil Dead's Ash for fictional references). 2. The 3 IFOs seen in space, in the OP, I believe is team Harlequin's IFOs. 3. Seems to be Spec V from the movie. 4. Probably. Also: We don't actually yet know if Secrets are protecting this world; the ones giving this information don't exactly seem to be the honest type, especially when broadcasting to their enemies. Another thing to note, is that Eureka and Renton's world seems to be in conflict with the Secrets; perhaps they're the extraterrestrial third-party between Coralians and humans? |
DangerrJul 19, 2012 11:51 PM
| Still think that Elena Peoples is related to Anemone and Dominic. She has to be somehow, for her to have such a deep-seated grudge towards Eureka. I'm guessing that something happened between the 'families', causing the war that they are talking about. ... Also - where did the Nirvash come from when Naru got into it? Could someone explain that to me? I don't quite get what happened in that 30 seconds or so - considering the Nirvash got extremely damaged, and ended up taking Eureka back to her time, correct? |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
BRSxIgnition said: Still think that Elena Peoples is related to Anemone and Dominic. She has to be somehow, for her to have such a deep-seated grudge towards Eureka. I'm guessing that something happened between the 'families', causing the war that they are talking about. ... Also - where did the Nirvash come from when Naru got into it? Could someone explain that to me? I don't quite get what happened in that 30 seconds or so - considering the Nirvash got extremely damaged, and ended up taking Eureka back to her time, correct? The Nirvash Naru got into was the one that crashed into the ocean with Trurth earlier in the episode (the same one that ejected Eureka against her will). It's unclear how it repaired itself of the damage Truth caused it. Anyways, the extremely damaged Nirvash that grasped Eureka before disappearing into the scub burst was the Mark I (not the typeZERO); Renton was likely piloting it. As for why it was so damaged, what Eureka said while giving birth to Ao, about Renton, probably explains it, to some extent. |
BRSxIgnition said: Still think that Elena Peoples is related to Anemone and Dominic. She has to be somehow, for her to have such a deep-seated grudge towards Eureka. I'm guessing that something happened between the 'families', causing the war that they are talking about. ... Also - where did the Nirvash come from when Naru got into it? Could someone explain that to me? I don't quite get what happened in that 30 seconds or so - considering the Nirvash got extremely damaged, and ended up taking Eureka back to her time, correct? If anything is certain so far.....It's that with this series they're really playing with our heads enough....x_X. No shortage on that end. |
Dangerr said: BRSxIgnition said: Still think that Elena Peoples is related to Anemone and Dominic. She has to be somehow, for her to have such a deep-seated grudge towards Eureka. I'm guessing that something happened between the 'families', causing the war that they are talking about. ... Also - where did the Nirvash come from when Naru got into it? Could someone explain that to me? I don't quite get what happened in that 30 seconds or so - considering the Nirvash got extremely damaged, and ended up taking Eureka back to her time, correct? The Nirvash Naru got into was the one that crashed into the ocean with Trurth earlier in the episode (the same one that ejected Eureka against her will). It's unclear how it repaired itself of the damage Truth caused it. Anyways, the extremely damaged Nirvash that grasped Eureka before disappearing into the scub burst was the Mark I (not the typeZERO); Renton was likely piloting it. As for why it was so damaged, what Eureka said while giving birth to Ao, about Renton, probably explains it, to some extent. I see - so the one that crashed into the sea wasn't the one that appeared out of the pillar of light? That would make more sense - if that damaged Nirvash was one from the time Eureka needed to back to. Still, I wonder how Truth managed to not only stop the Nirvash that was attacking him, but also move and repair it, for Naru to use a few hours later when fleeing from the hospital. Also - is Naru now confirmed to be a Coralian? Is she something different? Those 'horns' on her head also look like they make be similar to the 'headphones' Eureka is wearing a lot of the time. |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
| Damn what a twist. |
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| OK for Renton in the opening. All i can say is, im gonna lmao if its one of those moments where ppl look good from the back but then not as much from the front. Theories ( i could be COMPLETELY OFF BTW and maybe get schooled but here i go) could it be that Eureka is controlling the secrets and trying to stop humans from destryoing the scub coral and Thruth is actually the good guy? and really this is a huge misunderstanding??? That Nirvash that grabed Eureka the the pillar of light could be the one that Renton was working on and was piloting it Could Eureka be the bad guy or is Ao misunderstanding the situation I forgot about 2 or 3. Feel free to respond and school me! cuz i could be way off |
FreeK200 said: So, Ao is growing breasts... Anyways, I wouldn't doubt that Elena is Ao's older sister. It's been confirmed that she's older, and we've seen several shots of Elena People's tanning... Lmao xD i dont even want to get into that. . . |
| Such an eventful episode. Tbh, Ao rubbed me the wrong way as well, when he offered to protect Naru. It seems slightly condescending though exusable and Naru obviously wanted to stand on equal grounds with Ao and not to get looked after by him. |
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FreeK200 said: So, Ao is growing breasts... Anyways, I wouldn't doubt that Elena is Ao's older sister. It's been confirmed that she's older, and we've seen several shots of Elena People's tanning... I would agree with the tanning thing, but in episode 11 when they show Elena younger she is still way darker than Eureka. http://animetide.blogspot.com/2012/07/eureka-seven-ao-episode-11.html?m=1 Just thinking. Sense her skin is darker. Maybe she is the kid of Moondoggie and Gidget? |
| Naru: Ao, I wanted to fly together with you, not embraced by you. Go Naru, fight for the feminist movement! Jokes aside, the episode was the culmination of epic side character development. Nakamura changes from the naive and death-fearing soldier to a master manipulator. The people of Okanawa redeem themselves by blindly throwing themselves at Nakamura to stop the shooting of Ao. Ivica never provokes others into retaliating against the Japanese, just slams his fists into the desk when he hears about the capture of Ao. The president, Blanc , remains nonchalant as he always is. The side characters make E7 Ao enjoyable for me. As for the main characters, Ao, Elena, Naru and Truth, they have gone beyond my comprehension. Naru has a dream of Ao sleeping inside a Scub Coral, while we are given explicit proof that Ao is Eureka's child. Naru claims to understand Truth, almost as if she transcended Truth's truth and Eureka's truth. Elena flips out. Truth is flabbergasted in seeing Eureka's Nirvash try to kill him. Ao is probably the most normal of the four. He is just plainly confused by the other three freaks. It's a mystery and like any mystery, we, the audience, is left confused. |
| Argggg my brain hurts from mass confusionssss. But a few things that I think will be critical to answering over the coming weeks: 1. The war: It appears (emphasis) that there are certain camps forming. (a) The Secrets (apparently allies with humans) v Nirvashes (revealed by the Japanese) (b) Truth + Naru (for the Scub Coral) v Future Eureka (against the Scub Coral in the past - which is odd, seeing as she is Coralian - why go against her own???) (c) Humans/IFOs/Nirvash v Scub Coral (this one has been going since ep1) 2. Truth: As Elena put it, what the hell is he? - He appears to have Scub Coral within him (admitted it in earlier ep), yet he also can form himself as part Secret (unlike Naru) - He likes Naru; dislikes Eureka; meh about Ao; meh about humanity in general; confused by Nirvash - Named after the book by Johanssen, as shown by Nakamura (who then DOESNT LET US in on the damn knowledge - selfish bastard :P) 3. Mutli-time dimensions - Broadly, there is the past world (Astral Ocean setting) and future world (E7 setting) - However, as we've seen, there's several different sub-categories of the future world intercepting the past world at different times - Scub Coral (Coralians) appear to be doing it on purpose, and control the time jumps (bringing the Secrets with them???) - But also, in this ep, there was the Mk1 in the time-thingy (bright light) which was either half broken - OR half-built, as Renton was building one. Its the same make as Ao's now. But again, my key question, is WHY does Eureka want Ao to destroy the Scub Coral, when essentially, Ao, Eureka and mystery-sis come from them and the Coralians??? |
| elena is almost confirmed as a humanoid-coralian truth might be a humanoid-coralian too naru is mutating to be a humanoid-coralian elena and truth and naru hates eureka, wtf why? looks like the scub corals are misunderstood as enemies here but the secrets are also not the enemies as said by eureka on last episode so i guess the secrets are part of scub corals (coralians) too seems like eureka and renton are hated by coralians/secrets for some unknown reason/s and that renton is currently fighting somewhere |
| This is really messing up with my head. |
Apologies, I just can't avoid to rant. |
| That Op was EPIC and Renton looks completely BA Even though there r a question of mysteries and questions this is definitely getting way better the how it started |
Barion-ZaraJul 20, 2012 3:56 AM
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