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Oct 5, 2008 3:55 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Good episode. Love the SH teamwork against Oz. Wasted a bit time with a lot of talking as usual, but I'm used to it by now.

Oh, and I couldn't help but to crack up at chibi-Luffy yelling at Moria to give back his shadow.
Oct 5, 2008 6:30 PM
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Yeah his voice was awesome ahahahhaha
Oct 5, 2008 6:39 PM
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Yes indeed good episode.

But didn't they say something like "you only have 20 minutes left till morning", few epsisodes ago...?
Those are pretty long 20 minutes I say... D:
Oct 5, 2008 6:49 PM
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Mathes said:
Yes indeed good episode.

But didn't they say something like "you only have 20 minutes left till morning", few epsisodes ago...?
Those are pretty long 20 minutes I say... D:

It's typical anime "spacial" time. Just look at DBZ and Goku's fight with Freeza. The whole thing took place in three minutes, and that included Freeza's powering up.

I didn't mind this episode. It was weird for me to have Moria talk more in this one than in the manga, but I too am used to it. Can't wait for the next one.

And is it just me, or are they running out of theme songs for this series? We haven't had an ending theme for a LONG time now, and they're using the first theme song for the third time. I guess that's what happens when a show get this many episodes in.
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Oct 5, 2008 8:37 PM
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Wow this episode was awesome. Can't wait for the new one. Also the new theme remix is too good.
Oct 5, 2008 10:37 PM
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kevin_video said:

It's typical anime "spacial" time. Just look at DBZ and Goku's fight with Freeza.

Funny how you say that when Moria is voiced by the same guy who did Freeza :P

I thought it was a great episode. Oz is finally taken care of, now just Moria is left. And I loved the new opening, it's so nostalgic. I was getting kind of sick of the previous one because it had been airing for so long so it was a nice change of pace. Also I thought the animation in the opening was really cool too.



Oct 5, 2008 11:02 PM
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I liked the new OP, and LOVED how Merry was in it. :) Go Strawhats!
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Oct 6, 2008 2:40 AM
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Hemsko said:
kevin_video said:

It's typical anime "spacial" time. Just look at DBZ and Goku's fight with Freeza.

Funny how you say that when Moria is voiced by the same guy who did Freeza :P

No, Moria is definitely not voiced by Ryuusei Nanako.

kevin_video said:
And is it just me, or are they running out of theme songs for this series? We haven't had an ending theme for a LONG time now, and they're using the first theme song for the third time. I guess that's what happens when a show get this many episodes in.

Well, they get new songs made for each time they switch, so it's not an issue of "running out of them", they simply don't feel like doing endings, because it seems like they think having a 3-minute opening is a good idea. Also, I hate the remix.

Apart from that though, the episode was awesome. The final team-attack against Odz was great, Shadows Asgard was EPIC, and the cliffhanger at the end worked a lot better than how the corresponding manga-chapter ended.
Oct 6, 2008 7:41 AM
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nice episode
new OP is very nice
Oct 6, 2008 10:27 AM

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episode was bad! bad! bad! bad!
last episode they were like promising an ending to this arc
and what did we got now?

the episode finally started after 5 minutes >_>
but dont forget the tons of bla bla bla bla they've added
and the 1 minute ending ? -.- preview + other shit

that would make a total of 15 (or less) minutes of watching the actual plot

this arc started before the summer holidays started and didn't end now in october >_>

they dragged it out for so damn long
and in that case they had plenty of time to come up with 4-5 more arcs, hope the manga is doing better ... stupid fags
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Oct 6, 2008 10:51 AM

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episode was bad! bad! bad! bad!
last episode they were like promising an ending to this arc
and what did we got now?

the episode finally started after 5 minutes >_>
but dont forget the tons of bla bla bla bla they've added
and the 1 minute ending ? -.- preview + other shit

that would make a total of 15 (or less) minutes of watching the actual plot

this arc started before the summer holidays started and didn't end now in october >_>

they dragged it out for so damn long
and in that case they had plenty of time to come up with 4-5 more arcs, hope the manga is doing better ... stupid fags

...Please tell me you're not serious. There is SO much wrong with this post, that I don't even know where to begin. And believe me, I tried.
Oct 6, 2008 3:10 PM

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I'm a little disappointed that they are using "We are" as the opening again even if it is a re-mixed version. This is the third time already!
Oh well I still enjoyed the episode and Moria looks disgusting with 1 thousand shadows in his body :s

Peralisc said:
episode was bad! bad! bad! bad!
last episode they were like promising an ending to this arc
and what did we got now?

the episode finally started after 5 minutes >_>
but dont forget the tons of bla bla bla bla they've added
and the 1 minute ending ? -.- preview + other shit

that would make a total of 15 (or less) minutes of watching the actual plot

this arc started before the summer holidays started and didn't end now in october >_>

they dragged it out for so damn long
and in that case they had plenty of time to come up with 4-5 more arcs, hope the manga is doing better ... stupid fags

I do think this is one of the least interesting arcs and agree that it has been dragged out for quite a long time. However you shouldn't complain. The anime is still cutting it pretty close to the manga and I'd rather see an arc dragged out than fillers (even if One Piece fillers aren't that bad). If you still don't like it then go read the manga instead.
Oct 6, 2008 4:30 PM

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A brilliant episode. Loved the team fighting. And the finale against Oz was epic. Moria looked freaking awesome, and I really like him as a villain. He reminds me of a Disney Badguy, and he really looked creepy at the end.

Its hard to believe we've been in this arc for almost a year now. Yet it still feels fresh. It has to be the fact that there was so damn much happening in this arc.

Sure you could argue that the opening takes up too much time, but you'd have to be a retard not to be able to do the simple math.
Yes the OP openings take a long time. And most episodes start after about 5 minutes. But lets not forget we don't have a ending. All in all, the content you get with each OP episode, is pretty much the same as with most series. (count up the op, recap and ed for Naruto or Bleach for example) And the pacing is still pretty good. Ok maybe the Oz fight has dragged on for a while, but at least it was damn entertaining, with all the crazy crap the Mugiwara pulled off.
Oct 6, 2008 7:44 PM

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Vegard_Aune said:
Hemsko said:
kevin_video said:

It's typical anime "spacial" time. Just look at DBZ and Goku's fight with Freeza.

Funny how you say that when Moria is voiced by the same guy who did Freeza :P

No, Moria is definitely not voiced by Ryuusei Nanako.


Hmm, I guess you're right, sorry about that. I thought I had read that somewhere, but I guess I was wrong.

Also, I don't really mind the lack of ending if there's an extra long opening. The only problem is that they always do that annoying Gold Roger thing. We already know the basic back-story, we don't have to hear it every episode :<



Oct 7, 2008 5:02 AM

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I think the roger part adds something to the whole One Piece feeling. I don't know why, but I never get tired of it^^
Oct 7, 2008 7:39 AM

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I think the roger part adds something to the whole One Piece feeling. I don't know why, but I never get tired of it^^

I kind of agree. For some reason I always listen to the "Wealth. Fame. Power." part before skipping to the beginning of the episode.
Oct 8, 2008 3:09 PM

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If you still don't like it then go read the manga instead.

No. That's not a solution. If an anime is getting poor/ bad / slow / has fillers in the middle of the main plot ... etc etc , then the fans must do something else than just accept every piece of garbage they get. Instead of telling themselves lies the fans should rather complain, not by sending hatemails or something childish like that, but in a civilized manner.

Anyway this arc sucks. I am looking forward to some improvement.
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Oct 8, 2008 4:50 PM

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If you still don't like it then go read the manga instead.

No. That's not a solution. If an anime is getting poor/ bad / slow / has fillers in the middle of the main plot ... etc etc , then the fans must do something else than just accept every piece of garbage they get. Instead of telling themselves lies the fans should rather complain, not by sending hatemails or something childish like that, but in a civilized manner.

Anyway this arc sucks. I am looking forward to some improvement.


Yea the way you express yourself is indeed very civilized. We can all take a note from that.

Seriously though who are you to tell us what to do? Looking at the rating an comments of this episode, a lot of people really enjoyed it. This episode was not garbage. this entire arc has been pretty good. And the bitching about fillers is stupid. Most long running series have fillers. One Piece has found a great way to deal with them. Fleshing out some stuff of the main story, and add a filler arc at the end of the manga ones. This has worked perfectly up till now. Compair One Piece fillers to say, the Naruto of Bleach ones.

Also, EVERY damn shounen has a long intro and ending sequence. Take this weeks Bleach episode for example. After 5 minutes in we FINALLY get new stuff! And I didn't even count the ending and omake yet. AND THAT'S A FREAKING FILLER episode we're talking about.

So yea. Sorry to hear you don't like this arc. But honestly that's a personal problem.
Oct 11, 2008 3:16 PM

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Odz is pretty damn lucky he can't feel pain, because after seeing his spin break like that he would defiantly be screaming in pain after that. Great episode, looking forward to the next.

Oct 12, 2008 7:34 PM

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mulderman said:
I think the roger part adds something to the whole One Piece feeling. I don't know why, but I never get tired of it^^

I kind of agree. For some reason I always listen to the "Wealth. Fame. Power." part before skipping to the beginning of the episode.

I've skipped it for the last 80 episodes myself since I've got it memorized by now. I think they do it because after this arc there will be no more Age of Pirates since the New World is now at hand.
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Oct 23, 2008 3:45 PM

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Kya new theme song with new photos so awesome!
eps was pretty awesome the animation looks more clean
can't wait for next eps So ready for the next arc
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Jun 6, 2009 2:56 PM

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Loved the new OP and the episode was just awesome all together.
Dec 11, 2009 5:16 PM

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New OP is great, and the episode was nice!
Mar 15, 2010 6:08 AM

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New OP is pretty awesome.
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May 16, 2010 5:45 PM

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Very cool...
i hoped that the fight contiues ..and it does !!

the attack that the Spinal column broked, was very hard :D
*like it*

and Moria is damned Evil :)
May 21, 2010 8:51 AM

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Another great episode, that was one of a hellish and gory final blow on Odz.
Sep 5, 2010 3:08 PM

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I have plenty of things to say about this episode but I'll make it short.
The new We Are mix, I loved. I've heard it and seen it before, but actually watching the whole anime up to this point then hearing this was so refreshing. I tried singing along with it, but started tearing up about halfway.. xD
Oars's spine breaking freaked me the hell out.
And last but not least,
Oh my fucking Asgard Moria.

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Sorry, I meant to say "Ass Guard" Moria.
Apr 8, 2011 4:54 AM

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Wow another great episode. Once again the straw hats have the best tactic for finishing off Oz. There team work in this arc is just the best ive seen in one piece so far. Its incredible. The idea to actually shoot a freezing canon, freezing OZ's legs so he can't move then take the crane and the chain and wrap it around Oz body so he stands up straight well delivering the final blow with luffy's Gear third was just amazing.

And at least we see Moria at his peak in power. Consuming all those shadows. I wonder how strong he is now.

On a second note, its about damn time they change the opening theme. This one is actually one of my favorites, the remix to We are.



May 9, 2011 11:21 PM

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First, the remix to the already great "We Are" is freaking awesome. Second, god damn this episode was exciting, and the struggle with Moria and Odz is seemingly endless and I mean that in a good way.
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Jun 16, 2011 4:00 AM

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When the strawhat crew work together.. damn.. they're one force to be reckon! :-D
I LOL when they were making fun at Brook being a corpse!

Right now Moria is the one overpowered.. The sun is rising.. I'm guessing the conclusion of this arc is near :-)
Feb 1, 2012 7:33 PM

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THIS BECAME MY NEW BEST EPISODE OF THE ARC
first we have awesome and clever never-before-seen straw hat teamwork with each member being bad ass
then we have third gear and the hilarious ensuing chibi luffy
then the very annoying villain gets a cooler deeper (read: less fucking annoying) voice and becomes really formidable
Apr 24, 2012 1:00 AM

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This anime is getting really boring, this episode was an exception. I find myself skipping through all the weaker crewmates doing their generic moves and fighting. I just want to see more whitebeard and blackbeard and all the extremely powerful and respectable opponents. I still like bleach better because of the awesome antagonists. Although you may say Bleach is a bad anime, the NON-FILLER fights are epic and amazing
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I dunno why, but that final blow at Oars felt way too brutal for me haha. I cringed at how his spine broke ouch :x
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Nov 11, 2012 8:55 AM

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Thats a lot of shadows..

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That scene where Luffy crunches down Oz's spine and all the mugiwaras have their 'yay' faces on, one at a time. :') Around 15:06 to 15:26, specifically.

and, loving the new OP!
Aug 8, 2013 10:31 PM

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THIS NEW OPENING MANNNN <3
wow the first half i was so hyped up bc of the teamwork and i thought they defeated him
BUT THEN MORIA WENT TOO OP AND DID THAT 1000 SHADOWS THING
jeeeeeez
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This episode did not make sense. Gecko Moria said he absorbed 1000 shadows. Yet Luffy's zombie was number 900. NOT TO MENTION the 200-300 that the straw hat pirates defeat. MINUS the 100 that the people hiding in the woods captured. How the hell did he absorb 1000 shadows?
Nov 30, 2013 3:34 AM

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Good episode, yay for chibi Luffy! I do love it when the Straw Hats support one another in a fight but a planned attack like this one is even better.
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And I loved the new opening, it's so nostalgic.

I wanted to say that too! Love the new/old OP :)
Anyway, looooooved the teamwork once again (hope to be able to enjoy it again sometime) and super curious about the next fight! If they defeat Moria all their shadows will automatically return, so let's see...
Feb 1, 2014 3:38 AM

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I could never complain with anything related to "We Are" it's just the theme for One Piece in my eyes, it fits it so well.
Mar 15, 2014 2:03 AM

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I almost started crying at the new opening ;w; DEM FEELS
May 27, 2014 8:26 AM

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Oh the new OP
Not exactly new... but oh I love the new OP
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Sep 9, 2014 2:43 AM

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Finally a new opening,that other one really got annoying.

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And goodbye Oars!
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Jun 10, 2015 9:56 PM

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Finally a new opening,that other one really got annoying.

But i liked the previous one it was damn awesome theme song :c
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Nice new opening! And damn how much is it gonna take to finally take Moria down? He just keeps coming back for more!
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Love the new opening, I prefer the original singer of We Are, but this opening has some great visuals, from the people the crew has met along their journey to seeing all the villains, so cool.
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Oh, and I couldn't help but to crack up at chibi-Luffy yelling at Moria to give back his shadow.


I fell in LOVE with this scene xD


Jul 24, 2016 4:56 AM

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One thousand shadows!!!
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Oh god, I'm watching on Crunchyroll and just now I got to know that we aren't going to get opening 10... Nor openings 11 AND 12. We are just going to fucking watch Jungle P opening again for 80+ episodes from now on. I can't believe it. I am just so tired of Jungle P by now, and though I never skipped openings in One Piece before, this is something I will need to do. Didn't mind not getting Crazy Rainbow OP back then, but this is simply ridiculous.
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