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Jul 21, 2012 4:06 AM

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Oh dam shits going down now... Can't wait to see Natsu and Jellal fight Rouge and Sting haha

Dam Orga is just unlucky to be matched up against Laxus haha
 
Jul 21, 2012 4:35 AM

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With the last page image, means they want to "revive" a dragon... Right????
So this means that to "revive" the dragon they need a celestial mage??? Hummm


No its the "Dragon Feast" Grandine and Igneel mentioned all those chapters ago( i think it was right after Tower arc), which makes it likely they will show up. Ingeel said to her "We will meet again, at the Dragon King's Feast" (or something like that)

And yes, 777 and this also connects stellar spirit mages, especially Lucy to Dragons.


As for Lucy, yep, I am guessing the whole stuff is intentional on author's part before he gives the "twist" of the arc with her.
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Jul 21, 2012 6:06 AM

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Mirajane does not like fighting. Besides Gray is as strong as Natsu , and people seem to forget that just because Natsu has more fights with stronger people and has his ability to eat stuff and become stronger for a few chapters.


What does it matter if she likes fighting or not? Aren't they suppose to do what is best for the guild. She's strongest that some of those 5 so she should have taken a position so she can help her guild.
As for Gray he ain't really as strong as Natsu not to mention he doesn't have the ability to regenerate like Natsu does by eating fire and that makes him even more weak compared to Natsu.
 
Jul 21, 2012 7:24 AM

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Can't wait for that battle!

All my gifs are in my blog
 
Jul 21, 2012 9:50 AM

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Natsu = BOSS
Erza=BOSS
etc. = BOSS

I want Natsu to go OD crazy and beat them bloody. I want him to go Crazy and attack everyone on there team using his Dragon magic as it consumes him. I want the whole FUCKIN arena to try to stop him.
 
Jul 21, 2012 12:23 PM

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I'm not sure if it makes any sense but what if Eclipse is actually a dragon?
 
Jul 21, 2012 3:28 PM

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Gray isn't weak at all. He's just not as effective as Freed, Mirajane or his other 4 team-mates. Sure he's a main character and has a more reserved and intelligent approach to fighting but he's never been a consistent threat. Though, Mashima will definitely give him a sudden power up so none of that matters any more lol. I prefer him as a character way more than Natsu, I just don't like to see him trolled so much.

Freed: Has some broken abilities and Laxus and Freed on the same team would be too much win since they've been a team for far longer than Natsu and Gray and have actively been taking S class missions.

Mira: Mira > Freed for some while. Training on both ends should've kept a similar gap still. Also, this isn't about liking fighting or not any more. It's about Lucy.
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Unfortunately for Orga though, he's going to wish he was never born. You don't give Laxus that look bro, you've been acting up the entire time making faces you never knew you could make while hiding behind Sting and your guild-mates. Time to back it all up, you are now facing Laxus Dreyar.


I second that...Orga is screwed!!!Don't mess with Laxus :D


Damn straight. :)
 
Jul 21, 2012 6:42 PM

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@KyousukeT

Gray isn't weak at all. He's just not as effective as Freed, Mirajane or his other 4 team-mates. Sure he's a main character and has a more reserved and intelligent approach to fighting but he's never been a consistent threat. Though, Mashima will definitely give him a sudden power up so none of that matters any more lol. I prefer him as a character way more than Natsu, I just don't like to see him trolled so much.

Freed: Has some broken abilities and Laxus and Freed on the same team would be too much win since they've been a team for far longer than Natsu and Gray and have actively been taking S class missions.

Mira: Mira > Freed for some while. Training on both ends should've kept a similar gap still. Also, this isn't about liking fighting or not any more. It's about Lucy
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Yup, but that sounded way better than the previous post though. =x
I personally find it funny when others (not you) start comparing Natsu & Gray and call him weak, etc. Sure, he may not be a Dragon Slayer but that's no reason to underestimate him. And yea, Mashima-sensei will surely give him a power-up. I would like to see Mira fighting more in her new form though. Seems scary.
But nonetheless, Gray would be more suitable in this scenario IMO. If all goes well, we should be able to see Ice Creation Magic vs Memory Creation Magic (or whatever you call it =D).
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-Shuda- said:

Unfortunately for Orga though, he's going to wish he was never born. You don't give Laxus that look bro, you've been acting up the entire time making faces you never knew you could make while hiding behind Sting and your guild-mates. Time to back it all up, you are now facing Laxus Dreyar.


I second that...Orga is screwed!!!Don't mess with Laxus :D

Damn straight. :)

You bet. Whenever Laxus is concerned, everybody agrees. =]
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Jul 22, 2012 12:37 AM

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I KNEW THAT HAS TO COME UP SOON. i so called the dragon king festival
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=463003&show=160

so wait...that means that the dragons have been waiting for this as well
http://www.mangareader.net/135-7216-12/fairy-tail/chapter-101.html

things are starting to finally get somewhere now.

also for those who are interested, i'll try post another log between my mate and i when i see him next.
 
Jul 22, 2012 6:56 AM

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What a boring chapter.

And more of Natsu trying to save the day, AGAIN.

You know, it would be nice if he got the shit kicked out of him to be reminded he can't always save everyone.

And of course, it wouldn't be complete with that awful overused shounen phrase, "I'm all fired up."


He uses it all the time and you still bitch about it? Wow and people call him slow.

Either way it was a good chapter with a very juicy piece of plot at the end. ANyone else notice the person in the painting or more exactly what they have around the neck?


still? of course people bitch about it. who wouldnt, with that stupid phrase from such a bad character. moron, stop acting so high and mighty all the time. jeez, ur comments are annoying.


At the very least he's not cursing and multi-posting in order to prove his hating.
Does the word "conversation" exist in your head pal? And btw use some logic that is consistent with manga rather than what's badass according to your preferances
meaning Gray is one of the mains. Like it or not he's in. If on the other hand he wasn't that would have been lame from the author's part. If one of the mains ends up in the sidetrack it's infinetely worse than what you are asking for. We've seen it happen before in other manga and it has always ended with the same disappointment and the question as to "why include them in the main party in the first place when you don't give them any attention?" Use your head more rather than rushing in to prove some kind of non mainstream thinking.
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Jul 22, 2012 9:21 AM

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It's quite childish how anybody who dares whoop somebody from FT has to be portrayed/viewed as horrid and villianous, as if FT don't go out on quests fighting others battles and going up against oponents who see them as the wrong-un's; such hypocrites. :p

Obviosly, nothing will happen to Lucy, but hopefully, here change of scenery will provide reason for some solo character development.

 
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Queen_Stars said:
It's quite childish how anybody who dares whoop somebody from FT has to be portrayed/viewed as horrid and villianous, as if FT don't go out on quests fighting others battles and going up against oponents who see them as the wrong-un's; such hypocrites. :p

Obviosly, nothing will happen to Lucy, but hopefully, here change of scenery will provide reason for some solo character development.


Second that. I didn't get mad at Minerva either but Hiro actually planned ahead and has stated that ST are involved with illegal activites (to make them more villain-like). So even though I agree they ARE villains.
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Jul 22, 2012 9:47 AM

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Kanic said:
Queen_Stars said:
It's quite childish how anybody who dares whoop somebody from FT has to be portrayed/viewed as horrid and villianous, as if FT don't go out on quests fighting others battles and going up against oponents who see them as the wrong-un's; such hypocrites. :p

Obviosly, nothing will happen to Lucy, but hopefully, here change of scenery will provide reason for some solo character development.


Second that. I didn't get mad at Minerva either but Hiro actually planned ahead and has stated that ST are involved with illegal activites (to make them more villain-like). So even though I agree they ARE villains.

I know, I just think it gets a little sad how the have to be, just to enforce us supporting FT triumphing over all.
It just leaves a little less to the imagination IMO.
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Jul 22, 2012 9:52 AM

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Queen_Stars said:
Kanic said:
Queen_Stars said:
It's quite childish how anybody who dares whoop somebody from FT has to be portrayed/viewed as horrid and villianous, as if FT don't go out on quests fighting others battles and going up against oponents who see them as the wrong-un's; such hypocrites. :p

Obviosly, nothing will happen to Lucy, but hopefully, here change of scenery will provide reason for some solo character development.


Second that. I didn't get mad at Minerva either but Hiro actually planned ahead and has stated that ST are involved with illegal activites (to make them more villain-like). So even though I agree they ARE villains.

I know, I just think it gets a little sad how the have to be, just to enforce us supporting of FT triumphing over all.


Look at it from another perspective: rather than actual villains think of it all as part of the competetive sense of the tournaments. I like it more when I view it like that
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Kanic said:
Queen_Stars said:
It's quite childish how anybody who dares whoop somebody from FT has to be portrayed/viewed as horrid and villianous, as if FT don't go out on quests fighting others battles and going up against oponents who see them as the wrong-un's; such hypocrites. :p

Obviosly, nothing will happen to Lucy, but hopefully, here change of scenery will provide reason for some solo character development.


Second that. I didn't get mad at Minerva either but Hiro actually planned ahead and has stated that ST are involved with illegal activites (to make them more villain-like). So even though I agree they ARE villains.


Third that. I want to see an arc where Fairy Tail are the bad guys, or at least it isn't as one-dimensional as right vs wrong.

I want to sympathize with the enemy, see their point of views and even shed some tears. The closest thing to that was the the fighting festival arc with Laxus and the Rajinshuu. Also, Ultear's mini arcs could possibly fit the criteria. Though, that was all pulled off at the end of each respective conflict. I want to see Fairy Tail oppressing someone, creating enemies through their own fault and look like anti-heroes for a bit.

Though, Lumen Histoire's description from Ivan and Mavis was a good sign for things like this to come.
 
Jul 22, 2012 9:59 AM

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-Shuda- said:
Kanic said:
Queen_Stars said:
It's quite childish how anybody who dares whoop somebody from FT has to be portrayed/viewed as horrid and villianous, as if FT don't go out on quests fighting others battles and going up against oponents who see them as the wrong-un's; such hypocrites. :p

Obviosly, nothing will happen to Lucy, but hopefully, here change of scenery will provide reason for some solo character development.


Second that. I didn't get mad at Minerva either but Hiro actually planned ahead and has stated that ST are involved with illegal activites (to make them more villain-like). So even though I agree they ARE villains.


Third that. I want to see an arc where Fairy Tail are the bad guys, or at least it isn't as one-dimensional as right vs wrong.

I want to sympathize with the enemy, see their point of views and even shed some tears. The closest thing to that was the the fighting festival arc with Laxus and the Rajinshuu. Also, Ultear's mini arcs could possibly fit the criteria. Though, that was all pulled off at the end of each respective conflict. I want to see Fairy Tail oppressing someone, creating enemies through their own fault and look like anti-heroes for a bit.

Though, Lumen Histoire's description from Ivan and Mavis was a good sign for things like this to come.


+1, I always enjoy bad guys with actual convictions or at least somekind of personality or background that explains their actions. I actually have high hopes from Sting/Rogue. I don't how they are connected to Natsu/Gazeel but I believe there's more than they were just their fans. I hope there's another reason behind them killing their parents-dragons.
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Jul 22, 2012 10:08 AM

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@Kanic

About Sting/Rogue, definitely going to be true. They are literally the 2 template characters for Rave Master's best two characters imo. They're going to have some traumatic past with blood and tears.

You also reminded me of something from the other thread ^^
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What about Tartaros?


Tartaros has disappeared for a long time right? About the time this tournament started right?

I think it's somewhat hinted that these Arcadia/tournament organizers are Tartaros.


How so?? Interesting.

Tartaros was one of the highest ranked Dark guilds along with OS and Grimoire Heart.

By the council's quote, they "disappeared" soon after the incident at Tenrou Island. At around the same time the Grand Magic Games were re-formed and there are people like Arcadia and that pumpkin pulling strings from behind. Not to mention, they keep speaking of Zeref as their saviour or king, just like Hades.

The pieces fit together well, a little too well.

TARTAROS will be exposed in 3 days as well.
 
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-Shuda- said:
Kanic said:
Queen_Stars said:
It's quite childish how anybody who dares whoop somebody from FT has to be portrayed/viewed as horrid and villianous, as if FT don't go out on quests fighting others battles and going up against oponents who see them as the wrong-un's; such hypocrites. :p

Obviosly, nothing will happen to Lucy, but hopefully, here change of scenery will provide reason for some solo character development.


Second that. I didn't get mad at Minerva either but Hiro actually planned ahead and has stated that ST are involved with illegal activites (to make them more villain-like). So even though I agree they ARE villains.


Third that. I want to see an arc where Fairy Tail are the bad guys, or at least it isn't as one-dimensional as right vs wrong.

I want to sympathize with the enemy, see their point of views and even shed some tears. The closest thing to that was the the fighting festival arc with Laxus and the Rajinshuu. Also, Ultear's mini arcs could possibly fit the criteria. Though, that was all pulled off at the end of each respective conflict. I want to see Fairy Tail oppressing someone, creating enemies through their own fault and look like anti-heroes for a bit.

Though, Lumen Histoire's description from Ivan and Mavis was a good sign for things like this to come.

Funny enough, I though Laxus and Co. introduction was FT at it's best, and it all spawned from an internal missunderestanding that's still an ongoing, interesting plot.

@ Kanic
That's how I see it too (high competition). ;)
Still, great effort goes into trying to get the audience to worry about a main (why bother?) and disslike the individual who dared to hurt them in a fair fight?
It's spoonfeeding the audience information; though I do have to take into account that this is aimed at those quite a bit younger then me.

 
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@Kanic

About Sting/Rogue, definitely going to be true. They are literally the 2 template characters for Rave Master's best two characters imo. They're going to have some traumatic past with blood and tears.

You also reminded me of something from the other thread ^^
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Kanic said:
-Shuda- said:
FastWheels said:
What about Tartaros?


Tartaros has disappeared for a long time right? About the time this tournament started right?

I think it's somewhat hinted that these Arcadia/tournament organizers are Tartaros.


How so?? Interesting.

Tartaros was one of the highest ranked Dark guilds along with OS and Grimoire Heart.

By the council's quote, they "disappeared" soon after the incident at Tenrou Island. At around the same time the Grand Magic Games were re-formed and there are people like Arcadia and that pumpkin pulling strings from behind. Not to mention, they keep speaking of Zeref as their saviour or king, just like Hades.

The pieces fit together well, a little too well.

TARTAROS will be exposed in 3 days as well.


Even though this isnt't part of this thread let's keep it here. With mangareader as my source I'll say that I have never seen such a connection between Tartaros and the Tenrou Arc. If you are refering to the meeting between that Council Member and Doranbalt(which I think you do) they said that for Grimoire heart and not Tartaros. So far I at least know nothing about them or their activity other than the fact that they are part of the Balam Alliance and Arcadios seems to be independent rather than a secret agent of Tartaros working under the King

@Queen of stars
I guess he just doesnt want to create mixed feelings to his readers about whether FT is right or wrong.
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Jul 22, 2012 10:28 AM

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Kanic said:
Even though this isnt't part of this thread let's keep it here. With mangareader as my source I'll say that I have never seen such a connection between Tartaros and the Tenrou Arc. If you are refering to the meeting between that Council Member and Doranbalt(which I think you do) they said that for Grimoire heart and not Tartaros. So far I at least know nothing about them or their activity other than the fact that they are part of the Balam Alliance and Arcadios seems to be independent rather than a secret agent of Tartaros working under the King

Someone should go look for the chapter, I couldn't find the scene. I ermember they said that Grimoire Heart was wiped out in the incident with Fairy Tail and Tartaros has been "very quiet" these past 7 years and almost non-existent.

Also, about Tartaros being independent. They may have had no other choice since their most powerful allies were wiped out and they were now vulnerable. Especially with Crime Sorciere around. It seems like the logical approach for them to play the p`puppet-master`, also, they are clearly not working for the king. They are pretending too.

If they don't introduce Tartaros now, at the Dragon Kings Feast, where would they fit in? Dark guilds(exluding Raven Tail) would be a very light threat with Dragons and Demons flying around. It would make more sense that this catastrophe was caused by the final Balam Alliance. Not to say they still wont play a role later on as well though.
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Someone should go look for the chapter, I couldn't find the scene. I ermember they said that Grimoire Heart was wiped out in the incident with Fairy Tail and Tartaros has been "very quiet" these past 7 years and almost non-existent.

Also, about Tartaros being independent. They may have had no other choice since their most powerful allies were wiped out and they were now vulnerable. Especially with Crime Sorciere around. It seems like the logical approach for them to play the p`puppet-master`, also, they are clearly not working for the king. They are pretending too.

If they don't introduce Tartaros now, at the Dragon Kings Feast, where would they fit in? Dark guilds would be meaningless with Dragons and Demons flying around. It would make more sense that this catastrophe was caused by the final Balam Alliance.


If we ARE talking about the same chapter it is ch258 :Sabertooth.
Also about Arcadios, in his meeting with that minister he said something about how he HAS to do what he is doing "For the the sake of the king and the kingdom" so in some distorted sense he's just being a patriot about his kingdom and I have no way of connecting that to a dark guild. Tartaros will eventually be introduced that's for sure and I hope that they at least have a larger impact than their previous allies, but I can't see them appearing any time soon in this arc. They way I imagine things I think it is quite possible that FT might one day be called a dark guild by the council (that loaths them completely) and then they may actually make an alliance with Tartaros. That would be interesting for me but I doubt it will happen(it's just me imagining things XD).
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Kanic said:
-Shuda- said:
Someone should go look for the chapter, I couldn't find the scene. I ermember they said that Grimoire Heart was wiped out in the incident with Fairy Tail and Tartaros has been "very quiet" these past 7 years and almost non-existent.

Also, about Tartaros being independent. They may have had no other choice since their most powerful allies were wiped out and they were now vulnerable. Especially with Crime Sorciere around. It seems like the logical approach for them to play the p`puppet-master`, also, they are clearly not working for the king. They are pretending too.

If they don't introduce Tartaros now, at the Dragon Kings Feast, where would they fit in? Dark guilds would be meaningless with Dragons and Demons flying around. It would make more sense that this catastrophe was caused by the final Balam Alliance.


If we ARE talking about the same chapter it is ch258 :Sabertooth.
Also about Arcadios, in his meeting with that minister he said something about how he HAS to do what he is doing "For the the sake of the king and the kingdom" so in some distorted sense he's just being a patriot about his kingdom and I have no way of connecting that to a dark guild. Tartaros will eventually be introduced that's for sure and I hope that they at least have a larger impact than their previous allies, but I can't see them appearing any time soon in this arc. They way I imagine things I think it is quite possible that FT might one day be called a dark guild by the council (that loaths them completely) and then they may actually make an alliance with Tartaros. That would be interesting for me but I doubt it will happen(it's just me imagining things XD).


Actually, I kind of like the idea of Tartaros being different than the typical `dark guild`and something more along the lines of, `this is what Fairy Tail would be as a dark guild`.

However, I`m going to stick it through with my theory of Tartaros pulling the strings in this tournament until I see otherwise. It just clicks with me. It doesn`t have to be the guild itself, but I think they`re influencing somel of these current events. I`ll probably be wrong but let`s wait and see ^^.
 
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-Shuda- said:

Actually, I kind of like the idea of Tartaros being different than the typical `dark guild`and something more along the lines of, `this is what Fairy Tail would be as a dark guild`.

However, I`m going to stick it through with my theory of Tartaros pulling the strings in this tournament until I see otherwise. It just clicks with me. I`ll probably be wrong but let`s wait and see ^^.


I'm interested in such a scenario as well but if that's the case then I hope Mashima foreshadows it a bit and won't show them at the last minute saying "hey it was us all along" without any clue to connect the dots. Still, I'm very content with things the way they are up till now with this arc so I can't complain about what's not happening or what should happen.
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Natsu better go all out I don't wanna see him get his butt kicked I know erza is going to give them one hell of a fight.
 
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Maybe I'm thinking about this too much but...

Remember how in the beginning Natsu and Happy were looking for Salamander in that town? The info that was given to him by his guild mate was fake, but where did that guild member learn of that info?

It is possible that they leaked the fake info so that Natsu would bump into Lucy and get her to join their guild as part of a scheme by some bozo. What do you think?
 
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Maybe I'm thinking about this too much but...

Remember how in the beginning Natsu and Happy were looking for Salamander in that town? The info that was given to him by his guild mate was fake, but where did that guild member learn of that info?

It is possible that they leaked the fake info so that Natsu would bump into Lucy and get her to join their guild as part of a scheme by some bozo. What do you think?


You're thinking of Bleach. There is no Aizen in this story lol, though that would be funny/interesting.
 
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Aww yeah this chapter pumped me up loads
 
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imo Natsu shouldn't really use the word "I am all fired up" there, that made it seems like he was having fun, instead of being angry because his nakama was humiliated, that's the feeling I got from Natsu everytime he says that
 
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Monad said:
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Mirajane does not like fighting. Besides Gray is as strong as Natsu , and people seem to forget that just because Natsu has more fights with stronger people and has his ability to eat stuff and become stronger for a few chapters.


What does it matter if she likes fighting or not? Aren't they suppose to do what is best for the guild. She's strongest that some of those 5 so she should have taken a position so she can help her guild.
As for Gray he ain't really as strong as Natsu not to mention he doesn't have the ability to regenerate like Natsu does by eating fire and that makes him even more weak compared to Natsu.


Fairy Tail has always been caring about their members feelings. I highly doubt they didnt take that into consideration when choosing the members. If your thinking of pure ability Mira probably better then everyone cept Laxus however, when including the member's drives , motives and past experiences with Sabertooth, i'd say Mira would not be chosen.
I stand by my point , Gray is as strong as Natsu , whenever Gray and Natsu fight , they always are on equal grounds. I believe there is no clear winner because there are some enemies that Gray do better against and others that Natsu does better against , for example that Owl guy which Natsu lost to , Gray was able to beat him even with the Power-Up that the owl guy got from Natsu. I would give Natsu examples but you probably dont need it. If you wanna compare his ability to eat fire , why dont you compare his motion sickness as well to make it fair.

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I guess the strongest team would consist of Gildarts, Laxus, Mystogan, Erza and Mirajane.
 
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