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Am I the only person who didnt find Princess Mononoke to be all that great?

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Jan 7, 2017 7:51 PM

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Ligkonakos said:
Great movie, but people definitely praise it more than they should because Ghilbi.


Um, no. They praise it because they think it's a damn good movie, as do I, believing it to be one of the finest achievements of cinema. "Because Ghibli" has nothing to do with it, especially considering I had no idea what the hell Ghibli even was the first time I saw it.

Most of the complaints I've heard in his thread are either explainable due to the person apparently not paying any attention at all to the film or just having a naive and childish mindset. Especially regarding the ending. It wasn't just some "hur durr, I luv u but I can't date u sorry/k itz cul" teenage bullshit, we're talking about a girl who was raised as a wolf and seen firsthand the power of hatred and destruction humans are capable of. I think it's reasonable to not just forget all that because you happened to like a single human romantically. Oh, but I suppose seeing the two leads make out and live together is a better "happily ever after" traditional ending than something that's actually realistic.
 
Jan 8, 2017 12:01 PM

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AnimEva said:
Ligkonakos said:
Great movie, but people definitely praise it more than they should because Ghilbi.


Um, no. They praise it because they think it's a damn good movie, as do I, believing it to be one of the finest achievements of cinema. "Because Ghibli" has nothing to do with it, especially considering I had no idea what the hell Ghibli even was the first time I saw it.

Most of the complaints I've heard in his thread are either explainable due to the person apparently not paying any attention at all to the film or just having a naive and childish mindset. Especially regarding the ending. It wasn't just some "hur durr, I luv u but I can't date u sorry/k itz cul" teenage bullshit, we're talking about a girl who was raised as a wolf and seen firsthand the power of hatred and destruction humans are capable of. I think it's reasonable to not just forget all that because you happened to like a single human romantically. Oh, but I suppose seeing the two leads make out and live together is a better "happily ever after" traditional ending than something that's actually realistic.


For its time, ofcourse it's a feat considering the fact that there are plenty of shitty 2016 shows that don't even compare to this movie's art direction.

That said, just like many people pointed out, the romance is pointless. From a scriptwriter's point of view, why would you bother putting in romance elements if you're not going to develop them all the way? From a viewer's point of view, yes it indeed sucks. You may disagree, but the ending felt very anticlimatic no matter how realistic you may think it is. But then again, people praise Mirai Nikki and FMA as if there aint any better show out there.

Just my two cents.
 
Jan 8, 2017 12:20 PM

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It's not that they "aren't developed all the way." They just didn't kiss or have a stereotypical "happily ever after" ending. Why does romance has to follow a generic pattern like that to be considered satisfying? It's more complex of a relationship than that, the film presents an ending that suggests that the characters' lives will go on past the film, because the real world doesn't always have neat and tidy endings. Especially when the humans just happened to kill the guardian of the forest. "But that's no big deal, the plants grew back so we're cool." And no, that doesn't mean an ending that doesn't follow the stereotypical formula can't be satisfying. Clearly you don't want that out of a film, but I'd hardly consider it "not developing the romance all the way." Especially when we're clearly told that they love each other and will stay by each other's side. Also, the last part of your comment is a bit irrelevant. Everyone has different favorites based on their subjective criteria for what makes something great, but we weren't talking about those other works, regardless.
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Jan 8, 2017 12:33 PM

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symbv said:
the scene when the prince chops off the arms of some soldiers is enough to make it not for kids.

The movie is certainly not limiting itself to a children audience. But this kind of argument wasn't valid in Japan until recently. Back then, they were considering "violence", death etc were things children had to "learn" (opposed to the way the USAs and some european countries view it: something that should be kept hidden from children during a supposed innocence period in order to preserve them). Of course, they kind of aligned with us since then. -_-
 
Jan 8, 2017 12:35 PM

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@AnimEva
I think america is the only place that puts children into a censor bubble.
I watched it in russia just fine when i was 8 years old.
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Nov 3, 2017 4:51 PM

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Sure you are the ONLY ONE in the world who thinks this is overrated...
 
Nov 20, 2017 6:28 AM

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It's a shame that
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Jul 20, 1:31 PM
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It is Ghibli best movie and has some of the most complex characters especially the villain and themes ive seen in an anime movie.
 
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Out of 6 billion people in the world, I'm sure you're the only one.
 
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So far the best Miyazaki movie I've seen thus far.
Usually is movies aren't naive and the writers understood that very well but this movie applies everything pretty much perfectly. There's always a cause and effect. It's a closed story and while I wasn't a big fan of the giant monster at the end the ending itself between Mononoke and Ashikata is perfect for the story in question. There's no such thing as a perfect solution and I admire that they went that route.
 
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