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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I find this episode’s conversation back to back intriguing and enticing to say the least. Once again the character interactions and facials were key strong points. It’s just damn too bad it took 3/4 of the episode to reach the following,  OH MY! My favorite girl after Irisu from last episode finally gets a Over 9000 MOE shot out to me. So much LOVE and lovely expressions of hers in the spoiler About Ibara, she came into 3rd place but make no mistake of her expressions in the spoiler About the macho guy, I was quite surprised at how he pulled out his expressions in the spoiler About Eru, OMG Chitanda blew my heart out with her MOE attack if the new girl I like did not already add too much to its tolerance of MOE already it got. I would have to say it was certainly the following pose,  Along with the spoiler
About the end of the episode, visually in the spoiler Other than that nice corrections and output of Houtarou on the movie changes. I can finally understand more of the glasses guy and his Seiyuu. His voice is very charming for a male. Might edit later. BTW Nice art usage in the spoiler |
Yumekichi11Jun 17, 2012 10:16 AM
| Mm, dem moe girls :) Not sure on the part about Irisu being interested in him though. It might of just been curiosity as I don't see any romance to develop in this series at all of right now. |
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Stark700 said: No but the fact it makes it as though they understand each other with no words was intriguing. I am at the very least sure that Irisu had her interest peeked up by him. So future developments might turn out. Well, remains to be seen.Not sure on the part about Irisu being interested in him though. It might of just been curiosity as I don't see any romance to develop in this series at all of right now. |
Yumekichi11 said: Stark700 said: No but the fact it makes it as though they understand each other with no words was intriguing. I am at the very least sure that Irisu had her interest peeked up by him. So future developments might turn out. Well, remains to be seen.Not sure on the part about Irisu being interested in him though. It might of just been curiosity as I don't see any romance to develop in this series at all of right now. My curiosity sense is tangling now too. Inb4 Eru is curious. |
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| No OP. Gathering info. from three people (2 guys and 1 girl). First guy's guess = whoever is fine? Just being catchy... Through the window? And grass during the summer (getting wet?)? But getting seen... Chitanda's cute burping! She's eating too much chocolate with alcohol. Mystery novels. 2nd person sounds like Abeshi... he delivered Sharlock's novels. He said the trick is easy. With ropes and from 2nd floor? (he hasn't watched, yet). Only Chitanda and the guy not satisfied. Contradictory w. video. And not care of windows... 3rd person... thinking mystery as horror. She thinks that there should be extra person added, then killing other people... Chitanda went sleeping. The guy liked it but he said there's contradictory. After that, the girl who requested about the film appeared to talk to him. Next ep. airing 24:30, meaning early or late? |
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tsubasalover said: I KNEW IT! Something was weird with Eru. So those were filled with alcohol? Oh my! Under age drinking but in the country it's rather easy, that much I know. Well another nice innovation in thee end.Chitanda's cute burping! She's eating too much chocolate with alcohol. |
| Does anyone knows what "EBA" means? In the end of the episode, after the girl asks him out, the subtitle appears with "Why didn't she ask for EBA?" |
Geinrendour said: Does anyone knows what "EBA" means? In the end of the episode, after the girl asks him out, the subtitle appears with "Why didn't she ask for EBA?" I'm also confused by that. As stated previously, moe levels were off the charts this episode, loved it. I actually found it intriguing, what with the discussion about the theories, and I loved that we're still in this mystery, rather than it just being a one or two episode kind of thing. I really enjoyed Oreki shooting all those theories down. Love the third theory girl, she is moe as fuck. Overall, great episode. Not disappointed at all. |
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 Chitanda was even more annoying than before :/ Anyway, liked how they did it with everyone's theories. Houtarou's reactions to them were nice, as well as input from Satoshi, and even Ibara. |
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Yumekichi11 said: tsubasalover said: I KNEW IT! Something was weird with Eru. So those were filled with alcohol? Oh my! Under age drinking but in the country it's rather easy, that much I know. Well another nice innovation in thee end.Chitanda's cute burping! She's eating too much chocolate with alcohol. Those whiskey inside were abit magic: 21:27 she speaks without her lips moving. |
| In the end, all their theories are rejected. Now looks like some hidden conversation going to held next week, this should be interesting. |
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| This was a really good episode, definitely one of the better ones! The current mystery is quite intriguing. Eru, in particular, was great this episode. Her slightly drunken state was hilarious. |
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27CansOfTuna said: Chitanda was even more annoying than before :/ Anyway, liked how they did it with everyone's theories. Houtarou's reactions to them were nice, as well as input from Satoshi, and even Ibara. I can't get this .gif off my head right now ;o |
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| Oh wow Chitanda actually got drunk from the alcoholic pralines. So cute. xD I agree that Haba was really annoying and none of their theories were sound. In the end Irisu wants to speak with him. It's obvious she thinks he'll be the one who'll come up with an explanation in the end. Judging from the preview there's one major point we and the cast are missing, but I can't figure it out. =/ |
OnyxthegreatJun 18, 2012 12:13 PM
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| Good episode,Moe attack! Continue from the last mystery,and still no answer. The theories were kinda interesting but all of them were kinda lame,the last one was at least more interesting Also Beyond that Eru getting drunk was sooo CUTE!!! When she began to eat all those whisky chocolates i knew she will get drunk XD Her moeness and stubbornness went even higher with it specially loved when she get red and laugh at her bad joke,at the end how she fell to sleep was hilarious. Well in the end they didn't advance in the mystery for now,also next episode seems Oreki and Irisu will have a talk...lets see how it goes! |
| Chitanda... drunk = moe? Anyways, I just listened to 3 stupid theories... Here's my stupid theory. No one in the class want to take responsibility for the school festival. The took a vote and targeted the class's outcast - the sick girl - to do all the work (writing the script). She worked really hard but she could not think of an ending that would satisfied her. Therefore, an open end... Proof: Is the girl THAT SICK?! Can't you just go ask her? ElessaR88 said: If I remember correctly, it also appeared last episode. "Why didn't she ask for EBA?" is the subtitle of the second volume of the novel. The actual title is something like "The Fool's Ending". By the way, Eba is one of the characters' name...Geinrendour said: That's the name of the volume of the novel. We might find later when they solve the mystery. Like they did with the Hyouka arc.Does anyone knows what "EBA" means? In the end of the episode, after the girl asks him out, the subtitle appears with "Why didn't she ask for EBA?" tsubasalover said: Well, usually it airs on 24:00 (According to Wikipedia). So, it will air 30 minutes later than usual?Next ep. airing 24:30, meaning early or late? |
ShihJun 17, 2012 9:02 PM
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| That rope theory was just plain stupid to begin with. lol Mmm, the only thing I can think of to resolve the locked room case is the person that went back to get the master already had the key, thus being the killer but then again two people went back. Probably something along the lines of this though. |
| Eru getting drunk off alcoholic chocolate, lol! |
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ElessaR88 said: I see. Thanks \oGeinrendour said: Does anyone knows what "EBA" means? In the end of the episode, after the girl asks him out, the subtitle appears with "Why didn't she ask for EBA?" That's the name of the volume of the novel. We might find later when they solve the mystery. Like they did with the Hyouka arc. |
| Eru getting drunk was great, and once again Oreki was awesome breaking down those theories, but seriously thinking about it, all of those theories were lame, and the guy with the glasses was freaken annoying T_T; should have interesting development tho next episode now that she is meeting with Oreki. |
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| Could not stand that stupid brown haired girl who had like 3 buns on her head. And I agree with everyone who says this: Why can't they just freaking ask the scriptwriter?!?! She's obviously not in a coma or anything... |
| "chow desu~" lol xD |
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| Oreki's green eyes are captivating I thought they would solve it in one episode, so it's a new arc. I like this episode. :) And I feel like picking up Sherlock Holmes again. |
| In hindsight, where the hell IS the screenwriter anyway? Like where does she live. It must be either pretty far, or something of the like. Keeping in mind it could be a situation where no one knows where she lived or something like that, given how this show works. Anyway this ep was pretty good, I think the thing that got me interested the most was how person #2 and #3 were displaying how they felt mystery should be tackled and the misconceptions of it people get from it. Number #1 was just an example of people who think C.S.I. equates to a good mystery show or something XD Eru was super trippy this episode, seriously what the hell were in those things? XD It looks like this other girl will be throwing Hotaru in for a loop of some sort, can't wait to see how that plays out. |
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| I felt a bit lost when they talked about the theories and I had to rewind a couple of times but that's just, they do talk a lot, though. I seriosly considered dropping this episode because of that fucking disgusting Haba guy, look at him, look at his goddamn face, his eyes, that BAD hair cut and his nose. Oh my god, I HATE HIM, I hate him so much, I wish the movie was real and he had been murdered. The drunk Eru was great and made up for that shitty character, I want her in that state in every episode from now on, that would be hilarious but no chance in hell that's going to happen, damn it. I like Irisu, I like her a lot, if romance is going to happen, Houtarou should ditch Eru and take Irisu, she is the girl, man. |
| lol at eru getting drunk from the alcoholic chocolate xDDD hongou's supposed to be an amateur with mysteries; i see it as either her amateur thinking couldn't come up with a proper ending... OR she's not an amateur at all and is actually secretly planning something more elaborate for the end of the movie; with that highly detailed script and everyone's theories biting the dust, i think there's more to hongou's ending than meets the eye :/ but her whole "sickness" thing really throws everything off, too i was really hoping for houtatou to pull off some of his magic brainwork this episode, but i guess we'll have to wait til next week for this mystery to be resolved. can't wiat |
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| This episode was great lol Eru getting drunk (super light weight)and Oreki's reactions to all the theories were pretty good too. but that rope theory just had Derp written all over it Oreki even proved how stupid it was :P. |
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| The theories of those guys are way ridiculous. Ahahaha. I still don't have a clue about it. Chitanda getting drunk from bonbons? A cliche to almost every heroine out there. Ahahaha. |
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| People who say Megane theory is stupid are wrong: it's probably the most plausible one between the 3. But It has a major flow: the rope. It violate the Knox's 8th rule: The investigator can not find any evidence that it is not immediately presented to the reader. |
| But the rope wasn't "in the film" it is "in the anime/novel" tho.. if the author of Hyouka is following the Knox's rules guess that would be it.. The thing that ticks me off is how did the culprit managed to cut off the victim's arm.. and what is the relation of chitanda's unusual behavior before falling asleep, she said "like a kaleidoscope" or something like that.. |
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| Getting drunk while in school. Done that. XD Here's my theory. Maybe he faked his own death. I don't remember how his body was shown, but maybe the hand that was placed was fake and he hid his hand and covered it with blood. |
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| I'll just write out my theory that I have since last episode. I beleive that the girl that is supposedly Houga's best friend is none than other Houga herself. The real mystery she constructed is the one that she is currently presenting to the classic litterature club: "Would you be able to reconstruct a story based on the few hints I left to other people of my club and that I hide through the script" The reason is quite simple: If the classic litterature do manage to reconstruct her story with the hints she left, this will mean that her story followed a logical and rational process and this would pretty much be the most rewarding thing for a mystery writter, it would mean a defeat against the kotenbu but also a victory against herself. Either Houga orchestred everything without anyone knowing or either the whole cinema club is actually playing their real piece right now by putting the classic litterature club into the detective spot. This whole problem was weird since the start which leave me beleiving that everything is a test for the kotenbu. -Houga is a beginner in mystery and nobody seem to put too much faith in her ability to write one. Let's say she would very conveniently fall sick at this point in time, it's very weird for a club not to chose someone else to complete the script. The script is still at a point where anyone could just alternate it, nothing worth going out of the way to bother a club you barely have any relation to (Except if a wild Chitanda was bragging about Oreki's detective ability on the chat which caught Houga's attention) -The way the whole process is made is the same as a mystery. Everyone they talked to since the start add a few clues toward the truth. It's like the whole club made their theory according to what information the Kotenbu would have at the moment and they all seem too much fixated on Oreki which bring the third point. -They are all watching Oreki like he's the one that is suposed to solve it all when there was no mention of him being any greater than anyone in the club... of course unless Chitanda went out of her way to brag about him on the chat. -(Thanks to prismheart) I seriously doubt that Houga is in a coma or in a state where she is unable to give information. If normal club member couldn't visit her I would maybe buy it but I doubt that her "best friend" can't visit her. So basically imo, the Kotenbu aren't helping them, they are being tested. |
AlycenJun 17, 2012 9:04 PM
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| Yeah, they could just ask the girl who wrote the script to tell them what she was planning unless her sickness is keeping her in a coma but it still makes for a pretty interesting episode. I might go read a mystery novel now. |
Yumekichi11 said: tsubasalover said: I KNEW IT! Something was weird with Eru. So those were filled with alcohol? Oh my! Under age drinking but in the country it's rather easy, that much I know. Well another nice innovation in thee end.Chitanda's cute burping! She's eating too much chocolate with alcohol. Yeah, they were whiskey chocolates The theory about someone already being in the room makes sense. Maybe behind the broken props and junk since it was mentioned in the script. But as they mentioned in the ep. that doesn't explain the locked door. But then did they also focus on the corner area in the film? [EDIT: After taking a decent look at the map I'm going to take back what I said about the broken props and junk] There could of also been 2 culprits, i.e. the two girls [the purple sweater girl is really suspicious but I'm not sure if I should accuse her yet] who went back for the key. But that would be too obvious. During the episode everyone seemed to look at Oreki Houtarou for answers, that was odd. Plus the Chitanda Eru getting drunk. Finally, the notes inside the Sherlock Holmes books. Was that just to show that she was pulling the main aspects of the mystery novels? |
FrostToasterJun 17, 2012 11:35 PM
Fiji said: The theories of those guys are way ridiculous. Ahahaha. I still don't have a clue about it. Chitanda getting drunk from bonbons? A cliche to almost every heroine out there. Ahahaha. well a few of them do make sense. But they aren't really thinking about it too hard. They are just putting what makes sense initially, without brainstorming. |
| It's entertaining to see ridiculous theories. The real mystery is about Houga herself. I mean, way too suspicious sickness. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| Drunk Eru is so MOEEEEEEEEEE. Anywho, I still have no idea how to solve the mystery since all the theories so far have been rejected. I expect to get my mind blown, or in the end it turns out the author didn't finish the story and thus left an open ending. That would be pretty lame though. |
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Day2Dream said: WRONG!Mmm, the only thing I can think of to resolve the locked room case is the person that went back to get the master already had the key, thus being the killer but then again two people went back. Probably something along the lines of this though. 13man18 said: WRONG!Here's my theory. Maybe he faked his own death. Maddo_scientisto said: Wrong but it can be applied. The mystery was solvable upon seeing the movie.I'll just write out my theory that I have since last episode. itsok2bu said: After I reached this point in your theory, continuing on was pointless. Everyone met up in the center before heading to the room.The theory about someone already being in the room makes sense. Maybe behind the broken props and junk since it was mentioned in the script. But as they mentioned in the ep. that doesn't explain the locked door. But then did they also focus on the corner area in the film? OKAY time to explain shit.... I got sick of reading everyone's theories after seeing the shit theories. Why Episode Theories FAILED: 1) Grass stood up ... If someone had used the grass it might make sense but the window was too hard to open and the culprit could be seen. 2) The rope does count but the time difference and how load and hard to open the window disables the theory... everything takes a certain amount of time and they didn't have it. 3) Not enough blood and this is a MYSTERY not a HORROR. I do believe Oreki pointed that out dead quick. She read Sherlock Homes books... REAL mysteries, not ghost stories... so the occult is that last place to look. Time for the answer that is right in front of your faces: And that's my answer. This means that the crime seen in the video was answered when we saw the video. |
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kyled00m said: Day2Dream said: WRONG!Mmm, the only thing I can think of to resolve the locked room case is the person that went back to get the master already had the key, thus being the killer but then again two people went back. Probably something along the lines of this though. 13man18 said: WRONG!Here's my theory. Maybe he faked his own death. Maddo_scientisto said: Wrong but it can be applied. The mystery was solvable upon seeing the movie.I'll just write out my theory that I have since last episode. itsok2bu said: After I reached this point in your theory, continuing on was pointless. Everyone met up in the center before heading to the room.The theory about someone already being in the room makes sense. Maybe behind the broken props and junk since it was mentioned in the script. But as they mentioned in the ep. that doesn't explain the locked door. But then did they also focus on the corner area in the film? OKAY time to explain shit.... I got sick of reading everyone's theories after seeing the shit theories. Why Episode Theories FAILED: 1) Grass stood up ... If someone had used the grass it might make sense but the window was too hard to open and the culprit could be seen. 2) The rope does count but the time difference and how load and hard to open the window disables the theory... everything takes a certain amount of time and they didn't have it. 3) Not enough blood and this is a MYSTERY not a HORROR. I do believe Oreki pointed that out dead quick. She read Sherlock Homes books... REAL mysteries, not ghost stories... so the occult is that last place to look. Time for the answer that is right in front of your faces: And that's my answer. This means that the crime seen in the video was answered when we saw the video. Just curious what you mean when you commented on my post. Also I agree with your spoiler. And I would like to add, why is the hand so far away from the body? |
itsok2bu said: As I said, everyone met up so no one could've been in the room so nobody could "suddenly join the group". They were all outside the door and opened it with the master key together. Instead of continuing reading your post, i merely skimmed for important words and none fit the bill... I was also sick of staring at wrong theories by then so I was hoping someone would point out what I put in my spoiler but no luck it seemed.Just curious what you mean when you commented on my post. Also I agree with your spoiler. And I would like to add, why is the hand so far away from the body? The reason his arm was for from his body is obvious. They struggled and when they made him into a fake corpse, they had to hide his real arm so it didn't show on the video. Another thing that people should've picked up on was the key wasn't on his person, it wasn't even clenched in his hand. The fact that the body was far from the key made it even more obvious that the key had been switched... Also, he could have been still trying to get the key back from the murderer when his body gave out and he collapsed dead which goes to show you why his corpse isn't near the key. Putting the corpse near the hand would be too obvious with a blood trail all over the floor too... |
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kyled00m said: Day2Dream said: WRONG!Mmm, the only thing I can think of to resolve the locked room case is the person that went back to get the master already had the key, thus being the killer but then again two people went back. Probably something along the lines of this though. 13man18 said: WRONG!Here's my theory. Maybe he faked his own death. Maddo_scientisto said: Wrong but it can be applied. The mystery was solvable upon seeing the movie.I'll just write out my theory that I have since last episode. itsok2bu said: After I reached this point in your theory, continuing on was pointless. Everyone met up in the center before heading to the room.The theory about someone already being in the room makes sense. Maybe behind the broken props and junk since it was mentioned in the script. But as they mentioned in the ep. that doesn't explain the locked door. But then did they also focus on the corner area in the film? OKAY time to explain shit.... I got sick of reading everyone's theories after seeing the shit theories. Why Episode Theories FAILED: 1) Grass stood up ... If someone had used the grass it might make sense but the window was too hard to open and the culprit could be seen. 2) The rope does count but the time difference and how load and hard to open the window disables the theory... everything takes a certain amount of time and they didn't have it. 3) Not enough blood and this is a MYSTERY not a HORROR. I do believe Oreki pointed that out dead quick. She read Sherlock Homes books... REAL mysteries, not ghost stories... so the occult is that last place to look. Time for the answer that is right in front of your faces: And that's my answer. This means that the crime seen in the video was answered when we saw the video. I think they can easily know what keys belongs to which door, and so it would be weird if any of the characters in the movie dont try to check the key or realize about that. It's possible but i don't buy it. I think the answer is either the masterkey or that the door wasn't locked at all. By the way im the only one who thinks that eba is actually hongou? if don't im pretty sure that at least eba knows the truth. |
kyled00m said: Day2Dream said: WRONG!Mmm, the only thing I can think of to resolve the locked room case is the person that went back to get the master already had the key, thus being the killer but then again two people went back. Probably something along the lines of this though. 13man18 said: WRONG!Here's my theory. Maybe he faked his own death. Maddo_scientisto said: Wrong but it can be applied. The mystery was solvable upon seeing the movie.I'll just write out my theory that I have since last episode. itsok2bu said: After I reached this point in your theory, continuing on was pointless. Everyone met up in the center before heading to the room.The theory about someone already being in the room makes sense. Maybe behind the broken props and junk since it was mentioned in the script. But as they mentioned in the ep. that doesn't explain the locked door. But then did they also focus on the corner area in the film? OKAY time to explain shit.... I got sick of reading everyone's theories after seeing the shit theories. Why Episode Theories FAILED: 1) Grass stood up ... If someone had used the grass it might make sense but the window was too hard to open and the culprit could be seen. 2) The rope does count but the time difference and how load and hard to open the window disables the theory... everything takes a certain amount of time and they didn't have it. 3) Not enough blood and this is a MYSTERY not a HORROR. I do believe Oreki pointed that out dead quick. She read Sherlock Homes books... REAL mysteries, not ghost stories... so the occult is that last place to look. Time for the answer that is right in front of your faces: And that's my answer. This means that the crime seen in the video was answered when we saw the video. I hope you read the novel to back this up since you sound pretentious as fuck. |
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| Just wait until the answer is revealed. I'm almost willing to bet that we're all going to get trolled. And Oreki surprised at being called a hardcore mystery reader = win. :D Oh Chitanda. I loled when she passed out. XD |
kyled00m said: Your theory makes sense. However, it's best to reject theories respectfully. You're just coming off as a smart ass now. And just for that, I hope you're wrong next week so I can look back and smile :DDay2Dream said: WRONG!Mmm, the only thing I can think of to resolve the locked room case is the person that went back to get the master already had the key, thus being the killer but then again two people went back. Probably something along the lines of this though. 13man18 said: WRONG!Here's my theory. Maybe he faked his own death. Maddo_scientisto said: Wrong but it can be applied. The mystery was solvable upon seeing the movie.I'll just write out my theory that I have since last episode. itsok2bu said: After I reached this point in your theory, continuing on was pointless. Everyone met up in the center before heading to the room.The theory about someone already being in the room makes sense. Maybe behind the broken props and junk since it was mentioned in the script. But as they mentioned in the ep. that doesn't explain the locked door. But then did they also focus on the corner area in the film? OKAY time to explain shit.... I got sick of reading everyone's theories after seeing the shit theories. Why Episode Theories FAILED: 1) Grass stood up ... If someone had used the grass it might make sense but the window was too hard to open and the culprit could be seen. 2) The rope does count but the time difference and how load and hard to open the window disables the theory... everything takes a certain amount of time and they didn't have it. 3) Not enough blood and this is a MYSTERY not a HORROR. I do believe Oreki pointed that out dead quick. She read Sherlock Homes books... REAL mysteries, not ghost stories... so the occult is that last place to look. Time for the answer that is right in front of your faces: And that's my answer. This means that the crime seen in the video was answered when we saw the video. Nothing brings me more joy than seeing someone so sure of himself end up completely wrong. Reminds me of the end of death note ;D |
YveseJun 17, 2012 10:58 PM
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