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Jun 9, 2012 11:50 AM

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Yeah, you right Orulyon. In the novel, Gilgamesh said he took Ea in the beginning of combat only against an opponent who respects, have a great power and worth it. He was respectful with him in this scene.


I have not heard the quote: Now, Bucephalus, to conquest
 
Jun 9, 2012 11:51 AM
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http://animuthoughts.blogspot.com/2012/06/fatezero-s2-episode-10-episode-23.html
^Thoughts/pics/stuffs here.

Bye Rider. You will be missed. :'(.
 
Jun 9, 2012 11:52 AM

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Knew Rider was going to get axed this episode still he went out epically. I really would have been depressed if Waver would have died too. T_T
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Jun 9, 2012 11:58 AM

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WTF Is That Enuma Elish? I Like The Swirling Wave In F/SN Than This. At First I Thought He Summoned A High-Tech Unknown Treasury LOL.

But Then, I Never Knew That Heaven's Chain Is Coming. I Thought A Surprised Gae Bolg Or Some Random Treasury Would Pierced Rider.

I Went Goosebumps On This Episode 5/5. :O

2 More To Go~.

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The jaw dropping visuals are even more over the top this episode. My mind was epicly blown by the appearance of Ea, completely fitting of the creation star which sunders heaven and earth.

Gil really loves making people think they have a chance of killing him doesn't he? He does the good ol' enkidu to lancer and berserker in FSN and now to rider.


He never used Enkidu on Cu Chulainn


He Used It.

 
Jun 9, 2012 12:01 PM

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Damn that was a splendid episode. Rider's final charge against Archer was breathtaking. They really impressed me with the animation this episode, the part where Ea demolished Rider's soldiers was especially well animated. Can't wait to see the showdown between Kiritsugu and Kirei next week; it should be the best fight of the series if they do it right.

R.I.P. Rider.
 
Jun 9, 2012 12:01 PM

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I cried.
Rider's death was the most heroic, manly death I've ever seen.
Lancelot looks awesome. And I never thought of it before, but Saber is lesbian haha.
 
Jun 9, 2012 12:02 PM

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I cried.
Rider's death was the most heroic, manly death I've ever seen.
Lancelot looks awesome. And I never thought of it before, but Saber is lesbian haha.


eh?
 
Jun 9, 2012 12:03 PM

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RIP homey
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Jun 9, 2012 12:03 PM

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Lancelot looks like Caster in a way with those eyes.

Rider had a great ride (no pun). May his spirit continue to bring hope and dreams.
 
Jun 9, 2012 12:07 PM

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StrawHat1996 said:
I cried.
Rider's death was the most heroic, manly death I've ever seen.
Lancelot looks awesome. And I never thought of it before, but Saber is lesbian haha.


Saber is no lesbian. (jus see sex scene with Shirou in the VN)
 
Jun 9, 2012 12:08 PM

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Lancelot looks like Caster in a way with those eyes.

Yeah Me Too. That's The First Thing That It Pops On My Mind When I Saw Berserker's Face.

 
Jun 9, 2012 12:10 PM

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KiraYoshikage said:
StrawHat1996 said:
I cried.
Rider's death was the most heroic, manly death I've ever seen.
Lancelot looks awesome. And I never thought of it before, but Saber is lesbian haha.


Saber is no lesbian. (jus see sex scene with Shirou in the VN)


Saber is bi. Like everyone in the Nasuverse.
 
Jun 9, 2012 12:12 PM

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Thess said:
KiraYoshikage said:
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I cried.
Rider's death was the most heroic, manly death I've ever seen.
Lancelot looks awesome. And I never thought of it before, but Saber is lesbian haha.


Saber is no lesbian. (jus see sex scene with Shirou in the VN)


Saber is bi. Like everyone in the Nasuverse.


I Believe It's Rin. Not Saber.

 
Jun 9, 2012 12:18 PM

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RIP Rider

That last charge was epic tho, it was a given that he was going to die but that was an awesome way to go, the animation on that last charge was simply amazing.

Seems next episode is Kiritsugu vs Kirei, which has been what i personally have been looking forward to the most; not because it will be the "flashiest" fight since obviously they aren't servants but it should still be an intense fight all the same; aside from Kiritsugu vs Kayneth we haven't had that many decent Master fights anyway.
 
Jun 9, 2012 12:20 PM

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Any way the sex scenes have little or no importance in the VN. Fate finallyl in the route Fate just sex scene 2 which is of importance to history.

Unless you have seen the queen who is just there to make believe that Arthuria is a man.
 
Jun 9, 2012 12:36 PM

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Ah Archer....as awesome as ever.
 
Jun 9, 2012 12:39 PM

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PleinairUsagiDrp said:
Thess said:
KiraYoshikage said:
StrawHat1996 said:
I cried.
Rider's death was the most heroic, manly death I've ever seen.
Lancelot looks awesome. And I never thought of it before, but Saber is lesbian haha.


Saber is no lesbian. (jus see sex scene with Shirou in the VN)


Saber is bi. Like everyone in the Nasuverse.


I Believe It's Rin. Not Saber.


Saber is too. She was turned on by what Rin was doing. She thinks Irisviel is lovely, was married to a woman and had a son with her half sister ;)

Every girl in Nasuverse, except maybe Bazett (although there is some Type ace Comic that pairs her with Medusa), is bisexual.
 
Jun 9, 2012 12:51 PM

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While most deaths of this show are usually cruel and depressive to look at, the King of Conquerors passed away from the world, satisfied. He might have lost to Gilgamesh, but the fact that he had to use his most powerful weapon against him, just shows that Rider is dangerous to a man who is more god than human. Ishkandar the Great, a man of glory, even to the end.

Also, Waver showed real strength when he faced Gilgamesh. He really deserve some respect for it.

While I regret that I found out Berserker's identity too early, I love how it was portrayed. The way Saber expressed her shock was done very well. I can't wait to see the rest.


While I still wonder how high the death count is because of the Aoi incident, I'll go with that Rider was the tenth.
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Jun 9, 2012 12:55 PM

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Best episode so far.Why in Fate/Zero almost every heroic spirit is badass but in Fate/Stay Night every one suck especially Gilgamesh.
 
Jun 9, 2012 1:04 PM

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caster lives once again xD

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Jun 9, 2012 1:09 PM

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Icebreaker93 said:
Best episode so far.Why in Fate/Zero almost every heroic spirit is badass but in Fate/Stay Night every one suck especially Gilgamesh.


Icebreaker93 said:
Best episode so far.Why in Fate/Zero almost every heroic spirit is badass but in Fate/Stay Night every one suck especially Gilgamesh.


Because it is not just the work of Nasu in F/Z. This is Urobuchi Gen who write this.

Fate / Zero rule everything in type-moon. This is the best work with Kara no Kyoukai intype-moon(well for me)

Too, the Master in F/Z are all better than FSN. the Mots are teenager in FSN when there are adults in F / Z.
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Jun 9, 2012 1:37 PM

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So, about Berserker vs Saber, I think the anime outdone the LN in this part, the animation was perfect, the whole scene felt really suspenseful (if you didn't know who Berserker was already)

Just now saw the preview and it left me worry, I really hope they won't rush the next ep too much;;

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Fate / Zero rule everything in type-moon. This is the best work with Kara no Kyoukai intype-moon(well for me)


Oh yes, F/Z & KnK are stuff that I feel like tailor made for me. Everything from the atmosphere to characters just exactly my taste it's scary.
 
Jun 9, 2012 2:12 PM

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R.I.P Rider/Alexander the Great. He died bravely and like a BOSS! :'(
 
Jun 9, 2012 2:45 PM
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WTF Is That Enuma Elish? I Like The Swirling Wave In F/SN Than This. At First I Thought He Summoned A High-Tech Unknown Treasury LOL.


The Es's swirling wave in F/SN is one of the most butchered things DEEN ever done to F/SN. Most VN players hate it. ufotable really render the description of Ea down to the core.

He Used It.


Not in VN, and anime kinda screw up that up. Gil doesn't need Endiku to defeat Lancer.
 
Jun 9, 2012 2:59 PM

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If Gilgamesh didn't have that bloody sword.......

Well, there's the reason why it's his most beloved item.

Tearing Alexander's reality marble... left me with 'why oh why' kind of a feeling (even though I knew that's gonna happen - UFO knows how to get things done)
 
Jun 9, 2012 3:10 PM

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Noo Iskandar. If you were real I would follow you till the end of the world.

Didn't know EA had a true form. Gilgamesh never used it in the VN although I guess the only opponent he deemed to be worthy of his biggest bs... most powerful weapon was Iskandar.

It seems next week will be the most intensive episode. Ufotable must get an hour special like the first episode for put the last chapters of the LN or else I'll never forgive them.

BTW, anyone expects the preview of the last episode to show:
 
Jun 9, 2012 3:19 PM

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^It would be interesting to show that conversation in UFO style.
 
Jun 9, 2012 3:21 PM

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I love how Gilgamesh always gives his opponents a brief moment to make them believe they might get a chance to strike him before he pulls out Enkidu.

But when he pulled out EA.......man was that was beautiful.
 
Jun 9, 2012 3:29 PM

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benevolentfather said:
I love how Gilgamesh always gives his opponents a brief moment to make them believe they might get a chance to strike him before he pulls out Enkidu.

But when he pulled out EA.......man was that was beautiful.

We got to see the Key to GoB in such glorious form though it's a little short.

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The Es's swirling wave in F/SN is one of the most butchered things DEEN ever done to F/SN. Most VN players hate it. ufotable really render the description of Ea down to the core.

I wouldn't say "down to the core", it's kinda different than when he used in in Fate/ hollow ataraxia.
 
Jun 9, 2012 3:31 PM

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My impression of this AMAZING episode.



I should have calmed the hell down, though.
 
Jun 9, 2012 3:54 PM

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Tears rolled down my cheek along with Waver Velvet. I never thought there would be an episode of F/Z that would make me cry. :'(

5/5

 
Jun 9, 2012 4:13 PM

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Rider was really heroic in his charge. Still no epic fight between Saber and Archer yet, Fate Zero S2 remains a 7/10 for me.
 
Jun 9, 2012 4:52 PM

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Oh...Just expected for Gilgamesh there.

Looks like the battle nearly reaches its conclusion.
 
Jun 9, 2012 4:55 PM

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^It would be interesting to show that conversation in UFO style.

Well, the last chapter of the LN is about that so I assume that scene in particular will appear. Even though people dislike Shirou a lot Ufotable should at least put that scene, they must. That conversation is what drives Shirou's goal in Fate and UBW.
 
Jun 9, 2012 5:08 PM

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WTF Is That Enuma Elish? I Like The Swirling Wave In F/SN Than This. At First I Thought He Summoned A High-Tech Unknown Treasury LOL.

But Then, I Never Knew That Heaven's Chain Is Coming. I Thought A Surprised Gae Bolg Or Some Random Treasury Would Pierced Rider.

I Went Goosebumps On This Episode 5/5. :O

2 More To Go~.

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halberdiers said:
The jaw dropping visuals are even more over the top this episode. My mind was epicly blown by the appearance of Ea, completely fitting of the creation star which sunders heaven and earth.

Gil really loves making people think they have a chance of killing him doesn't he? He does the good ol' enkidu to lancer and berserker in FSN and now to rider.


He never used Enkidu on Cu Chulainn


He Used It.


He never used it in the VN.
Only in the F/SN anime.
Which devalued this fight since Gil likes Enkidu more than Ea.
It made it seem like Gil would use Enkidu on any servant if the situation favours it which is not the case.

That Saber and Lancelot scene was pretty badly done.
Saber's spirits was supposed to be utterly destroyed when she realized who Berserker is and I just didn't get that feeling as opposed to the despair I felt while reading the LN.
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Thess said:
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Thess said:
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I cried.
Rider's death was the most heroic, manly death I've ever seen.
Lancelot looks awesome. And I never thought of it before, but Saber is lesbian haha.


Saber is no lesbian. (jus see sex scene with Shirou in the VN)


Saber is bi. Like everyone in the Nasuverse.


I Believe It's Rin. Not Saber.


Saber is too. She was turned on by what Rin was doing. She thinks Irisviel is lovely, was married to a woman and had a son with her half sister ;)

Every girl in Nasuverse, except maybe Bazett (although there is some Type ace Comic that pairs her with Medusa), is bisexual.
Fascinating however I think it was to coin in general "Freedom" is all IMO the deep meaning where no deeper may coexist as far as this go. Why else make them like that?

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Jun 9, 2012 6:00 PM

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Thess said:
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I cried.
Rider's death was the most heroic, manly death I've ever seen.
Lancelot looks awesome. And I never thought of it before, but Saber is lesbian haha.


Saber is no lesbian. (jus see sex scene with Shirou in the VN)


Saber is bi. Like everyone in the Nasuverse.

I thought Sakura was Shirousexual.
 
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Linkark07 said:
Thess said:
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StrawHat1996 said:
I cried.
Rider's death was the most heroic, manly death I've ever seen.
Lancelot looks awesome. And I never thought of it before, but Saber is lesbian haha.


Saber is no lesbian. (jus see sex scene with Shirou in the VN)


Saber is bi. Like everyone in the Nasuverse.

I thought Sakura was Shirousexual.

I can imagine some hot moments between Sakura and Rider...
 
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While F/SN DOES have the Rin thing so I can't say anything about that, Saber only married Gwen to keep up the facade of being a man. Gwen being unhappy with that led to...well, you know.
 
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Veldril said:
Not in VN, and anime kinda screw up that up. Gil doesn't need Endiku to defeat Lancer.


Lancer lasted 12 hours fighting Gilgamesh. Read character material III. His battle continuation gave him the edge. I wouldn't be surprised if Gil had to Enkidu'ed him so he finally remained in one place once he took the battle seriously. Lancer's the fastest Servant in FSN, he also has skills such as defense against arrows and his disengage ones would make his gate of babylon mostly useless.

On the other hand, he was weighted down by two command spells placed by Kotomine so he wouldn't be serious in battles.

Cuchulainn isn't just any spirit. He's the most famous Irish hero and a demigod himself. He's pretty ideal Servant for most cases (temper wise too: friendly, honorable but not chivalrously stupid, etc) if wasn't for his luck. Good almost cost-free Noble Phantasm, a pack of tricks that allow him to survive (also magic), good stats (aside of luck), etc.

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While F/SN DOES have the Rin thing so I can't say anything about that, Saber only married Gwen to keep up the facade of being a man. Gwen being unhappy with that led to...well, you know.


I know, but it still doesn't take away that Saber is bisexual. She would have fallen for Shirou even if he was a girl. Gender had nothing to do with their relationship. Specially, if we take into light Gen's and Nasu's claims of her being a genderqueer. Takeuchi seems the only one adamant about 'moe girl' Saber.

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I thought Sakura was Shirousexual.


Sakura has some moments with Rin as Dark Sakura. She only loves Shirou romantically, but it doesn't mean she doesn't find some women hot.
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RIP rider you died like a real king! i truly thought for a moment he would stand a chance and at least land a hit on him though :(
 
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RIP rider you died like a real king! i truly thought for a moment he would stand a chance and at least land a hit on him though :(


He was going to kill him if he struck. Gil had to stop him. Either way, he got his real wish. His Oceanus, so he didn't need to win the Grail.
 
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Thess said:
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RIP rider you died like a real king! i truly thought for a moment he would stand a chance and at least land a hit on him though :(


He was going to kill him if he struck. Gil had to stop him. Either way, he got his real wish. His Oceanus, so he didn't need to win the Grail.
True, Team Rider had a happy end overall.

BTW, since you were discussing Cuchulainn earlier, I can't help but think Kirei has something against Servants not named Gilgamesh. xD Every spirit he commanded was brutally used as a pawn (be it thrown as expendable pawns or forced to not give it their all when fighting). I think Nasu has gone on record saying Lancer would have been unstoppable if the Holy Grail Wars were in Europe, especially in Ireland. Then again, He's the song of a god, so that's to be expected.
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Last two episodes are gonna be epic!! Can't wait, I started to tear up when Rider was running at Gil like a boss.
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RIP rider you died like a real king! i truly thought for a moment he would stand a chance and at least land a hit on him though :(


He was going to kill him if he struck. Gil had to stop him. Either way, he got his real wish. His Oceanus, so he didn't need to win the Grail.
True, Team Rider had a happy end overall.

BTW, since you were discussing Cuchulainn earlier, I can't help but think Kirei has something against Servants not named Gilgamesh. xD Every spirit he commanded was brutally used as a pawn (be it thrown as expendable pawns or forced to not give it their all when fighting). I think Nasu has gone on record saying Lancer would have been unstoppable if the Holy Grail Wars were in Europe, especially in Ireland. Then again, He's the song of a god, so that's to be expected.


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Jun 9, 2012 7:12 PM

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I think it's just that CuChuliann would be stronger in Ireland and possibly get a chariot and castle and such (Hercules was the one Nasu said would be better in all of Europe), not unstoppable. Though given who he is, close enough for most foes.

CuChuliann/Bazett would basically steamroll F/SN, yeah.

And to be fair to Kirei, he didn't give a shit about the war while he still had Assassin, and he already had Gilgamesh when he got Lancer.
 
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Can't... express... myself... Nerdgasm...

MOTHER!#$ING GILGAMESH, MY MAN! I'm going to miss Rider though! He was such a great character together with Waver; and Waver with his great character development.

...AND THE ANIMATION! WOW!
 
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Pretty stupid how Overpowered Archer seems.
There was no fight at all against Rider and Archer.
Nothing really happened between Saber and Lancelot.
It was all talk and barely any action.
1/5
 
Jun 9, 2012 8:06 PM

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that summoning of Ea was aweeeeesome :D

Enuma Elish planet destroyer X_X

rip rider D:

op archer class is op x_x

5/5
 
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holy shit, this was fantastic
this episode was so epic, and for far the best episode of this anime
now remains only 2 episodes.
 
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