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Sep 25, 2008 2:16 PM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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More and more Oscar is proving maturity albeit her young age. The rivalry between the 2 most powerful ladies in the court has peaked in this episode. Countess duBarry convinces the stupid king using her altered way that the crown princess is insulting the king indirectly. The princess is ordered by the Prime minister of Austria guided by the empress to address duBarry in order to prevent a war throughout the continent, but the princess refuse to deliberately talk to the evil countess in order to preserve the righteous values.

I would really like to see what will happen to duBarry after the plot she prepared to Oscar's mother and to find out what Oscar will do to guard the Princess and her Mother.
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Oct 19, 2008 8:52 AM

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The cliffhanger from last week is pretty easily resolved. The king gives Oscar the choice of who she wishes her mother to serve. With more advice from Andre (while fencing), Oscar makes the logical decision. She disproves of duBarry’s lineage and morals and sides with the “true” royalty, which is Marie Antoinette. The loss gives duBarry a huge hissy and she storms off to complain to her “john”, I mean the king.

Well, the rivalry b/w duBarry and Marie has gotten heated and people are starting to worry if it’ll affect the peace between Austria and France. One of those people is Count Mercy, an emissary sent by the Empress of Austria. DuBarry’s whining to the king and Count Mercy’s letter to the empress has put Marie in a tough position. Not only is the king favoring duBarry now, but the empress is wearily asking Marie to stand down. She uses the Prime Minister to write the letter however, since she feels that she can’t rightfully tell Marie to aknowledge a person that she’s been raised to never respect.

When we finally come to the get together at court, everyone fully expects Marie to finally aknowledge duBarry. Too bad! Marie stubbornly sticks to her morals and leaves duBarry hanging, only shooting her an icy glare! Foolish? Probably, but I applaud her for it.

DuBarry is obviously furious and runs to her room to break things (again) when once again, the Count Orleans appears with a bottle of “special” wine (poison, duh). This is so deliciously evil and cliché, I can’t help but watch! She attempts to frame Oscar’s mother for the poisoning of a young servant (poor girl). Oscar is tipped off to the suspicious activity and runs to prevent whatever she thinks is going down. Oscar arrives too late, but sees right through duBarry and her lies! This incident is pivotal, because it places Oscar squarely on Marie’s side. Really enjoyed this episode!
 
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Jan 1, 2009 10:35 PM

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So another good episode, both of these women are jerks, willing to put entire countries at war over standing in a court. Oscar also continues to show brains and the part at the end was neat, and I want to see how it is explained that this reandom women died.
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Nov 3, 2009 10:15 AM

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I don't consider Marie a "jerk", she's just naively staying to her beliefs. If there wasn't a risk of war because of this I would definitely be on her side, but I'm not sure just yet. Oscar, on the other hand, is one hell of a protagonist. She, unlike Marie, isn't naive and knows perfectly well how the world works.

I think Du Barry made a huge mistake in this incident, because Oscar has no choice now but to side with Marie.
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Sep 1, 2011 4:34 PM
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What a cliffhanger at the end. I cannot imagine this ending well for Oscar and/or her mother. The scene in the beginning proved how much influence Du Barry has over the king. (I found the scene a bit annoying though, how fast the King went from "I don't care" to ragemode over such an obvious method used by Du Barry I found a bit strange. He didn't seem that dumb.)

I like the series so far, but I'm not fully convinced yet, too many characters seem too dumb. I hope that at least Orleans got some brains to make this not totally one-sided.

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Mar 17, 2012 3:17 AM

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DuBarry's breaking far too many precious things in the palace for her to not be considered some sort of liability. And man, she's strong - breaking her hand fan, ripping apart the sheets. Wow.

But yes, Oscar is one hell of a protagonist.
 
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Jul 3, 2012 9:09 AM
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I cannot be the only person who thinks Mercy's mustache is badass.
I'm amazed Antoinette still refused to talk to DuBarry. With her schemes now beginning, I'd like to see what goes down with this.
 
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Feb 12, 2013 12:27 AM

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Damn Du Barry what are you the hulk?

Also lol stupid whore got told by Oscar. I really don't like Du Barry hopefully my mind will change on her once I watch more episodes.
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Mar 28, 2013 10:28 PM

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Higashi_no_Kaze said:
What a cliffhanger at the end. I cannot imagine this ending well for Oscar and/or her mother. The scene in the beginning proved how much influence Du Barry has over the king. (I found the scene a bit annoying though, how fast the King went from "I don't care" to ragemode over such an obvious method used by Du Barry I found a bit strange. He didn't seem that dumb.)


I think it's more that the King has his head up his own ass so much that he can't tolerate the mere thought of someone disparaging/ calling into question his ablities than it is him being dumb. Pride would be another way to put it. I found it pretty believable really.
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Apr 28, 2013 1:20 PM

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if DuBarry hadn't scowled at Antoinette in the second episode we might not have been in this mess lol (though Antoinette would probably have found out her position at another time)

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Oct 9, 2013 12:27 AM

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oh my god and I thought our government was dysfunctional...if a war starts because of 2 spoiled dumb brats...no wonder there was a revolution.

But yay for Oscar making it in time.
 
Mar 11, 2014 4:33 AM

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WolfWood37 said:
if a war starts because of 2 spoiled dumb brats...no wonder there was a revolution.

LOL my thoughts exactly. In today's world, it would be interpreted as "she didn't say hi to me so I hate her." Oh well, nobles are living inside their own happy bubble. Everyone outside that bubble is pointing and laughing while calling them idiots.
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Mar 24, 2014 5:52 PM

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I don't understand du Barry's logic... There was no in the room aka no witnesses... How would her trap have worked?!


 
Sep 27, 2014 3:16 PM

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Fantastice episode, the story is getting pretty interesting. Oscar is becoming quite the awesome character as well.
 
Nov 10, 2014 4:57 PM

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Very good, I'm really liking Oscar.
 
Dec 11, 2014 3:31 PM

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I don't understand du Barry's logic... There was no in the room aka no witnesses... How would her trap have worked?!
I'm guessing people would've took her word for it.
 
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Maybe I just am not very understanding of how Nobility works in 18th century Europe but couldn't this entire ordeal be avoided if Marie simply said Hi to Dubarry? I mean the rivalry and conspiracies are cool and all but it kind of just bugs me how none of this would have happened if Marie simply just talked to her.

Either way it was a cool episode and Oscar makes for one interesting protagonist. I have a feeling she might become one of my favorite female protagonist.
 
Jan 4, 2016 4:55 PM

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Damn, bitches are crazy in this show o.o Not sure how that plan from du Barry would have worked either way, it's a stupid plan with little to no logic.
 
Apr 13, 2016 11:49 PM

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Oscar was so cool at the end.

 
Dec 21, 2016 5:23 PM

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throws broken wine glass through window, shattering it too

TAKE THAT!

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Epic declaration at the end. Oscar is awesome.
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May 23, 2018 9:14 AM

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jasonvorheas24 said:
Maybe I just am not very understanding of how Nobility works in 18th century Europe but couldn't this entire ordeal be avoided if Marie simply said Hi to Dubarry? I mean the rivalry and conspiracies are cool and all but it kind of just bugs me how none of this would have happened if Marie simply just talked to her.

Either way it was a cool episode and Oscar makes for one interesting protagonist. I have a feeling she might become one of my favorite female protagonist.


I mean, it's pretty clear in the episode that Marie was raised in a way that she is too proud and set in this way of thinking that a mistress/prostitute shouldn't be allowed in the court, much less have power. She's naive, and it's ironic because the way her mother raised her is actually causing said mother issues now.
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Wow! Lady Oscar, so fierce!
Lady Antoinette was also to admire, not letting a single word slip out of her mouth and address that whore.

Cry more du Barry.
It's Lady Oscar you should watch yourself off.

I can't wait the bitch to meet her final punishment. She's been annoying enough for 2 episodes. "Redhead, redhead." STFU!
 
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