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Jun 3, 2012 9:54 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Ghost girl is forcing him to say "I love you" again and being lovely-dovey. The short hair girl stopped her. When she wanted to say something, ghost girl slapped her!!

She's bothering him even at the test. lol @ Keiichi Bento!! And that girl who cannot see ghost girl is here and got blocked the same way.

So short hair girl is mentioning about dark Yuuko, and having another "partner" (the girl who cannot see ghost girl) for help. She's even saying she doesn't know about dark Yuuko... blocking that memory of hers...

So she's not completely forgotten. The body reacts. But those memory is moving between dark Yuuko and ghost girl. Ghost girl trying to get out and meet the guy who left, but the gate is further and further away. Her sadness made her remember and dark Yuuko is there. So she got bullied?? The guy worries about her, so he came back to save her. He also saw the vision when saving her.

So it's the beginning of her memory (with the guy seeing it as her) next ep.
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Jun 3, 2012 1:42 PM

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Great climax, can't wait for the next episode.
Yea its revealed she can't leave the school. Thats why she was scared of Keiichi leaving...
From the visions Teiichii saw it seems like something happened to her alot worse than bully.









PS, That was some BlackRockShooter reference fosho
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Jun 3, 2012 2:42 PM

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Seems Teiichi went back in time and became Yuuko.

lol @ BRS reference
 
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Jun 3, 2012 3:37 PM

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Dat BRS reference. And lol'd @ Yuuko-chan's trolling method, never ceases to amuse me.
 
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Jun 3, 2012 5:07 PM

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So, we're all in new territory now, as the anime goes where the manga hasn't. (I'll be interested to see if the manga develops a similar story for Yuuko's past.)

An idle thought struck me while I watched the episode - I wonder if Shadow Yuuko just needs Teiichi to pay attention to her a bit too... (although I don't think that Teiichi could survive two of them... LOL)

All-in-all, a surprisingly excellent episode as manga and original anime stories were brought together very well.
 
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Jun 3, 2012 6:23 PM

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I cannot wait, as always, for the next episode. So freaking great. Okonogi was absolutely hilarious. Yuuko was cute as hell, and I'm loving how we're finally going to get to see Yuuko's hidden memories. Must have more!

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Jun 3, 2012 7:44 PM
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are these ppl raping yuko in the flashback?? i fkin hope not
 
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Jun 3, 2012 7:46 PM

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abaanda said:
are these ppl raping yuko in the flashback?? i fkin hope not


InfiniteDestiny will be mad if it is .
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Jun 3, 2012 7:58 PM
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abaanda said:
are these ppl raping yuko in the flashback?? i fkin hope not


was thinking of this too.
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Jun 3, 2012 8:17 PM

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Woah this episode... Im so interested in what happens next! and yeah I know it has something to do with the shrine underground though. But wth! She might have gotten rape i see some ropes and everything!
 
Jun 3, 2012 8:28 PM

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abaanda said:
are these ppl raping yuko in the flashback?? i fkin hope not


Manga spoiler:


Mod Edit: Please use spoiler tags when you really have to talk about the manga in the anime discussion thread or talking about other series.
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Jun 3, 2012 8:34 PM

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Yeah I was kinda wondering about that lol. BRS ftw tho. Great episode for sure, kinda wondering where this will go since this diverts from the manga.
 
Jun 3, 2012 8:35 PM
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black rock yuuko lolz
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Jun 3, 2012 8:44 PM

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So next time it's memory travelling.

Pretty curious to see Yuuko's past here.
 
Jun 3, 2012 8:47 PM

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dbaranyi said:

An idle thought struck me while I watched the episode - I wonder if Shadow Yuuko just needs Teiichi to pay attention to her a bit too... (although I don't think that Teiichi could survive two of them... LOL)


Thats how I see this anime ending. Teiichi will accept the shadow in some way. Then she will probably either go to Heaven or become one with Yuuko.
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Jun 3, 2012 9:27 PM

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The BRS reference was pretty good lol. Yuuko's past in the next ep, this is something I will really be looking forward to. :D
 
Jun 3, 2012 10:24 PM

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Dat Black Rock Yuuko.


Next week might piss me off.
 
Jun 3, 2012 10:31 PM

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Next week might be tough to stomach after seeing those images from the flashback.
 
Jun 3, 2012 10:58 PM

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I didn't know Shadow Yuuko was Black Rock Shooter. Plot twists everywhere!!!!

 
Jun 3, 2012 11:04 PM

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Well that was surprising and exciting. It looks that they are taking a different direction than in the manga.
 
Jun 3, 2012 11:31 PM

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Hey now... why would you want Shadow Yuuko to merge with Ghost Yuuko. If they stay separate, you can have 2 for the price of 1... and since they're the same person, they wont be able to truly feel jealous about the other... <3 haha (sorry. I had to say that. hehe)

The anime's going to end too fast.. they're going to pack the next 3 episodes with too much... 12 episodes just isnt enough.
 
Jun 4, 2012 12:24 AM

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This is really turning into the anime of the season. Really looking forward to next week.
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Jun 4, 2012 12:58 AM

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The cliffhanger endings in this series torments hard. Loving the direction this is going, the acceptance between Yuuko and herself and dudeguy and Yuuko's full form. Personally, knowing that kage Yuuko is still Yuuko, I would have embraced her and loved her just as much. She's the embodiment of Yuuko's bad emotions but it's not like she's a murderous ghost or anything, she just an emo version of the semi genki girl version. Realistically, she has similarities to Kirei, jealousy, hurt, loneliness, anger, etc.

One thing I find weird throughout the lovey dovey interaction is that no one else in the school seems to notice that there's a dude flipping out by himself around the front gate. If I was in that situation though, I wouldn't give two *****, so maybe it's playing on love's way of making people do stupid things.

Can't wait for next week. This and Nazo no Kanojo are really making the weekends that much sweeter.
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Jun 4, 2012 1:41 AM

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Interesting, now the anime is very different from the manga, I wonder where they want to go, can't wait for the next episode!
 
Jun 4, 2012 1:58 AM
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Why did they have to show that bandaged Yuuko!? I couldn't bear to think that she got raped/sexual harassed. They should've leave it to "They needed a virgin lady as a sacrifice to a cult" so this series is out from 2nd-hand-leading-lady boundary. But hey those are all guys and no women at all, there's a girl in her vision but that seems to be before the tragedy happened.. THAT cute and lovely Yuuko? got r a p e d!? It's like finding out your GF just got dirtied by another man.. The author juz made us fell in love to Yuuko so we'll burst down like Teiichi after finding out XD

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Jun 4, 2012 2:16 AM

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What a deep and emotional episode with an epic ending

was nice seeing more emotion out of yuuko even if they were sad ones

im hoping for no bad ending, something tell me im gonna hate what to come, cuz yukko so innocent and sweet i dont want to see her get hurt

any till next week
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Jun 4, 2012 2:58 AM
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next episode is a must watch .
 
Jun 4, 2012 3:02 AM

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InfiniteDestiny said:
abaanda said:
are these ppl raping yuko in the flashback?? i fkin hope not


They better not be, since to change that from the manga (where she wasn't) would be a unneeded change, they already did that in Mirai Nikki, there is no point in adding a rape scene T_T


I haven't seen the manga yet but -(I am curious to read it though when I have time)- from what I've seen here in the episode threads so far indicates that the manga hasn't gotten to this point yet- meaning it hasn't gotten this far.
So how can you say: -("They better not be, since to change that from the manga (where she wasn't) would be a unneeded change")?
Did they rule that out for sure in the manga? They might be working closely with the manga author for all I know. Maybe they author allowed it for a reason, I mean I'm sure when an anime gets beyond a point where the Manga left off, they much need some kind of input from the original creator. So, if it wasn't ruled out and if they haven't shown any or many flash backs from her past how can anyone say it was an "unneeded change"?
Sorry- just confused about that comment since everything else I've read says this is past the manga and no one seems to know what happened to her from reading it.

However, I will say this, usually sacrifices were suppose to be Virgins- if they were sacrifices to gods anyway- so if that was their intention it's not likely they would have raped her.
That being said, she might have wandered into an incident where she witnessed a rape. Or she might have been tortured and then sacrificed.
Dark Yuuko's comments about "Dirty" memories seem to fit with the rape theory though.
And that is what came to my mind when I saw them also, so a lot of us had the same impression.
I'm not really thrilled with that direction either though.
If they were memories of sadness, hatred, regret and so on, I doubt they'd be called dirty, their dark memories, emotions but not "Dirty".
Just my opinions.
 
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windeen-windy said:

However, I will say this, usually sacrifices were suppose to be Virgins- if they were sacrifices to gods anyway- so if that was their intention it's not likely they would have raped her.
That being said, she might have wandered into an incident where she witnessed a rape. Or she might have been tortured and then sacrificed.
Dark Yuuko's comments about "Dirty" memories seem to fit with the rape theory though.
And that is what came to my mind when I saw them also, so a lot of us had the same impression.
I'm not really thrilled with that direction either though.
If they were memories of sadness, hatred, regret and so on, I doubt they'd be called dirty, their dark memories, emotions but not "Dirty".
Just my opinions.
In most `Godly sacrifices`, it's expected that virgins are used because they're considered more pure but that means nothing.

The word Dirty has too many applications in English but I feel she'd call herself something like sullied if she was raped... so I don't believe she was raped till we get visual proof. :)
 
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Teiichi didn't even care that Yuuko slapped Kirie! That was messed up! lol.
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Jun 4, 2012 3:52 AM

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This episode is very interesting, but annoying Teiichi keeps blocking me from giving it 5/5.

Really, when he said he'll talk to Dark Yuuko, I expected much better talks than that.
I sympathize Dark Yuuko. She has to be alone even though they are the same person.
 
Jun 4, 2012 4:30 AM

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Wooow BRS Yuuko I can't stop LMFAO, so Yuuko's past is about to be reveal nice !!
 
Jun 4, 2012 5:38 AM

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Teichi,don't escape from shadow Yuko with Yuko. She is Yuko, too.
interested in Yuko's past,and how shadow Yuko was borned.
I'm also curious about the lyrics of Karandorie, the ed of this anime. It reflects Yuko's feelings. What does "not grated hope" mean?
 
Jun 4, 2012 5:42 AM

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Very interesting episode though, I'm really interested about Yuuko's past now.
DAT BRS yuuko :D
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Jun 4, 2012 5:46 AM

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Lol BRS.
Well, seems like Teiichi is having a flashback over Yuuko's memories.
abaanda said:
are these ppl raping yuko in the flashback?? i fkin hope not
Doesn't seem that way, so I hope and think it won't be like that..
 
Jun 4, 2012 7:08 AM

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shit just got serious
 
Jun 4, 2012 7:47 AM

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Awesome episode, it was about time to return to the main story.
Now I can't wait to see her memories, that'll be awesome.
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Jun 4, 2012 7:50 AM

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The mistake of telling a woman you love her... you have to keep repeating it :D

Anyway, this show is growing on on me. Not too much, but enough for me not to hate it for being so silly at times :P
 
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Flashback episode next week! Yes! YES! So looking forward to it.

Needless to say that this week's episode was simply amazing. 5/5 10/10 9999/9999
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Jun 4, 2012 8:34 AM

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Black Rock Shooter...

Awesome episode! Yuuko's face was justt great XD
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momoe with ANOTHER horrible cockblock >.<

and HELL YEAH, black rock yuuko!!! everything from the blue eye flame to bearing her other self's burdens... coincidence??? xDDD

and dear god, im really not looking forward to yuuko getting raped in the past....
i REALLY hope that's not the case next week :/

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Oh boy. Pulling out the old "rape as bockstory" trope again, huh Japan?

Of course, there's no other way to develop a female character than that.

FFS...
 
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InfiniteDestiny said:
abaanda said:
are these ppl raping yuko in the flashback?? i fkin hope not


They better not be, since to change that from the manga (where she wasn't) would be a unneeded change, they already did that in Mirai Nikki, there is no point in adding a rape scene T_T

Thanks for discussing the manga beyond this episode V_V... that spoiled some of what I thought the memories could be
 
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Magicturbo said:
InfiniteDestiny said:
abaanda said:
are these ppl raping yuko in the flashback?? i fkin hope not


They better not be, since to change that from the manga (where she wasn't) would be a unneeded change, they already did that in Mirai Nikki, there is no point in adding a rape scene T_T

Thanks for discussing the manga beyond this episode V_V... that spoiled some of what I thought the memories could be


I said it because its not going to be in the memories....all of this is new material, this episode included; tho i suppose some people like you still feel that is spoiling, so i'll just put spoiler tags in the future, my bad.
 
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Another lovely episode. I really like this anime. I think our main guy is acting wrong. He shouldn't push dark Yuuko away. If he really loves Yuuko then he will accept everything about her. If he accepts the dark Yuuko then Yuuko can stop be afraid of accepting her also and would be finaly able to gain her memories and face her past.

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Magicturbo said:
InfiniteDestiny said:
abaanda said:
are these ppl raping yuko in the flashback?? i fkin hope not


They better not be, since to change that from the manga (where she wasn't) would be a unneeded change, they already did that in Mirai Nikki, there is no point in adding a rape scene T_T

Thanks for discussing the manga beyond this episode V_V... that spoiled some of what I thought the memories could be


I said it because its not going to be in the memories....all of this is new material, this episode included; tho i suppose some people like you still feel that is spoiling, so i'll just put spoiler tags in the future, my bad.


It doesn't matter if the anime is going a different way(which in the specific subject it might not). Someone might want to read the manga after seeing the anime(like me for example) and you spoiled it. Now i know what NOT to expect while reading new events in the manga that i haven't met in the anime. Why should my manga assumption fun be reduced because you where an ass and spoiled things of the manga? Think a little would you?
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Yeah, the fact that Teiichi didnt even care that Yuuko slapped her made me question his morals lmao.

On another note, the show is seriously taking a Persona 4-like direction lol.
 
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and dear god, im really not looking forward to yuuko getting raped in the past....
i REALLY hope that's not the case next week :/


[based on what we've seen so Spoiler Free Zone]
I agree I also hope that this is not her past
not that version of being sacrificed or thrown into basement is better as it's equally sick
but simply NO
so for some reason this time I'm so eager to see next episode - but we will see
 
Jun 4, 2012 1:25 PM
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I honestly feel really bad for Shadow Yuuko. She has the right to merge with Yuuko again, because Yuuko is just denying reality and being a coward by trying to stay 'pure'. The only way she'll grow is if she would keep her memories.

Yuuko is stupid. I'm seriously on Shadow Yuuko's side.

But next episode looks amaizng! Can't wait :3 If there would just be less ecchi in this show, I'd love it even more.
 
Jun 4, 2012 1:41 PM

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Man i dont know if i can continue i really love me some Yuuko and i feel real bad for her. I know some shady fucked up shit went down.

If they show her getting rapped im dropping it. LMFAO. Since i read they basically changed everything from the manga. I will just read the manga. I cant see the most beautiful anime girl this season get raped.
 
Jun 4, 2012 2:48 PM
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I see a lot of folks dissing on Teiichi for making mistakes or doing the "wrong" thing.

Teiichi - he's what? 13? No way in hell you should expect a 13 year old kid to NOT make mistakes when we're dealing with this short of shit. If anything, it's amazing what he's been able to do right up to this point. A traumatized ghost with split personalities, hints of a really ugly and violent past, and two other girls also wanting his attention. For most kids that age emotions often tumble over each other faster than they can keep up. When problems come up they're often facing such things for the first time and have little experience on which to base ways to deal with them. Never mind trying to reason with a vengeful ghost who appears to be trying to destroy the girl he loves - the fact that he stood up to Shadow Yuuko was more than I'd expect out of most 13 year olds.

Sure, he's making a lot of mistakes - but he's in there swing.
 
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