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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- My hands are totally shaking at what the end presented itself in depiction of the treatment of homunculus. About thee end of the episode, I cannot say I liked seeing the whole sequence of Kirei faces in the spoiler a very shocking face of Irisviel. However it followed with a nice moment in the following,  I TT_TT hard man! Along with the spoiler To say the least SICK! Life treated like garbage! Other than that still shook up of Kirei strangling Irisviel. Now he is on my HIT LIST! About the ordeal of heart aching, there is nothing like the following,  That can depict TT_TT and rage as much as this. It was like “KIREIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!” And on. Words cannot describe the intense RAGE felt and very feeling as I write this. At first Irisviel had a nice defiant face here, however it turned sour when I see Kirei here. I know SHIT IS GOING TO HIT FANS! I knew it. I was never ready for what followed in the spoiler I finish this with respect to Irisviel and my love for her character like so. Waver and Rider were nice comedic reliefs to say the least with nice drama at the end. I think this was the most TT_TT episode and I have a feeling it will get worst later with her the point I might need some beer to calm down. This was HARDCORE and I though Caster was the worst, I cannot express this episode how much more deeper and harder it hit to see Irisviel being abused by Kirei and her past. |
Yumekichi11Jun 2, 2012 9:06 AM
| What Kirei did to Irisviel was cruel, just to get rid of and crumble his enemy, Kiritsugu,'s dream. Weaver kind of got scared? but determined/aware of the final battle, so he "gave up" being the master to Rider. (That instant was ... how to say... cool?) |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| I want to kill Kirei myself now. |
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| Typo in the episode? That sign said 21.. Anyway all my tears, the episode had the best interaction of the anime thus far, Waver's scene with the grandfather and then the friendship scene with Rider, and how I thought he was actually going to send Rider on alone and we'd see no more Waver got me emotional. And then when he picked him up and put him on the hours and Waver was all agitated and conflicted with emotions of happiness, was so lovely. True friends. Waver has consistently been my favorite. |
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| Kirei fuuuuuuuuuuuk. I have to go to the chapel to kill him. |
tisizhoJun 2, 2012 10:14 AM
Stark700 said: LET ME JOIN! I could get some army against him. DAMN IT! I know it's all fiction but the the dagger in the heart does not stop from digging in it all the time. Does anyone feel the same? So painful and it so lingers in the mind. Especially if you love Irisviel as a character. TT_TTI want to kill Kirei myself now. |
| This episode was quite emotional. Iri's death and transformation into the Holy Grail, Waver and Rider... Man, I really want Rider to win this Holy Grail War. |
| I want to kill Kirei to. Cause Iri was my favorite here ( |
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Yumekichi11 said: Stark700 said: LET ME JOIN! I could get some army against him. DAMN IT! I know it's all fiction but the the dagger in the heart does not stop from digging in it all the time. Does anyone feel the same? So painful and it so lingers in the mind. Especially if you love Irisviel as a character. TT_TTI want to kill Kirei myself now. But but Kirei is the best character!!! next to Rider |
| The Art of Eight |
| Welp...being the grail means she has to be sacrificed. Mo homunculi, mo problems. |
| Ok™ |
dankickyou said: Yumekichi11 said: Stark700 said: LET ME JOIN! I could get some army against him. DAMN IT! I know it's all fiction but the the dagger in the heart does not stop from digging in it all the time. Does anyone feel the same? So painful and it so lingers in the mind. Especially if you love Irisviel as a character. TT_TTI want to kill Kirei myself now. But but Kirei is the best character!!! next to Rider so is Kyubey in you-know-what, but I still want to kill him. |
| Grandpa confirmed for bro. Kirei, finding a reason to fight now. Damn, I cringed at the snapping part. Waver is so moe. Oh man, those dialogues after Rider placed him on the horse are just begging for doujins. And there it is, my black mud. Those homunculus bodies... Poor Iri. Poor Ilya Rider vs. Archer next time. Things will get so real next time. |
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| Holy crap UFO! They cut too much psychological activities in Kiritsugu&Saber scene... PS:Has anyone noticed the meaning of those flares? In tarot, 4 stands for Emperor, while 7 stands for Chariot. Exactly Gil & Alex. |
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| That rider scene on the horse was just adorable. I love Rider so much. >.< |
| Dayum it went from 29 hours left to only 4 hours in one episode. I think this is the best episode since before the flashbacks. So many feelings~~ I can't believe that old man, figuring out Waver isn't his grandson. The moment between them was really sweet. And then the moment with Rider too. And poor Iri :< Now I really can't wait for the next ep. They better do a good job!! |
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| Kirei is totally disappointed in Kiritsugu. Oh well~ Rider >< I'll miss you bro. Gilgamesh is not playing this time. |
| oh man, that preview is brutal.... |
| waver moe. good ep. kirei i dont like in this series. was more bamf in the visual novel to me. some fucking epic action needs to fucking happen already. |
Dont bother replying to my posts in forums, dont check them afterwards. |
| Nice move there, Kirei, putting up Berserker against Saber so that he can deal with Rider without them interfering. It's quite interesting in how many cases characters are motivated by the wish to wipe out the from their point of view illusionary and pathetic ideals of certain people and to prove them wrong. The first one was Waver who opposed to Kayneth's belief in the dominance of bloodlines but until now Saber has been the biggest target of this kind of endeavour by Rider and Kiritsugu. Ironically, the wish to destroy the latter one's ideals becomes Kirei's final motivation in this war and judging from what has happened until now it is safe to assume that Kiritsugu's ideals will not fare better than those of any of the other participants. Kirei is the exception here as he neither possesses any ideals like Saber and her master nor does he follow a certain moral code like Kaneth and Tokiomi and he certainly seems to be favoured by the writer as he is the most successful in the game. |
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Next week = Epitome of epicness |
| Nice build-up episode. Now that I have a better perspective of how they'll proceed, I think they'll be able to fit the rest in the next 3 episodes. There will be some rush, but it will still be epic. |
thesnnitro said: Next week = Epitome of epicness Yumekichi11 said: I would prefer to see Gilgamesh bleeding out and dying along with Rider being the winner. why you hating on King of Heroes? I love Rider too but Gil is pretty awesome in FZ as well. |
| I'm more curious on who is fighting who next episode. I'm going to guess Saber vs Archer considering the circumstances that happened this episode but it might also be Berserker vs Saber as Archer mentions "entertainment" in the latest ep. Then of course, Berserker might fight Archer in a re-match? Not only that, Rider is coming after Saber again I'm assuming for a re-match. Can't wait to see what's next. Hell, it might turn into some sort of fatal-four way. |
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Yumekichi11 said: ]I would prefer to see Gilgamesh bleeding out and dying along with Rider being the winner. Rejoice, YUMEKICHI. Your wish will finally come true. |
Stark700 said: I'm more curious on who is fighting who next episode. I'm going to guess Saber vs Archer considering the circumstances that happened this episode but it might also be Berserker vs Saber as Archer mentions "entertainment" in the latest ep. Then of course, Berserker might fight Archer in a re-match? Not only that, Rider is coming after Saber again I'm assuming for a re-match. Can't wait to see what's next. Hell, it might turn into some sort of fatal-four way. watch the preview... Having read the LN, I really liked the way the made Iri being changed into the grail ILYAAAAAA.Needed more lines just because it's her. "That will never happen to you Ilya" |
LostHanyou said: Yumekichi11 said: ]I would prefer to see Gilgamesh bleeding out and dying along with Rider being the winner. Rejoice, YUMEKICHI. Your wish will finally come true. HF Kirei? |
Stark700 said: I'm more curious on who is fighting who next episode. I'm going to guess Saber vs Archer considering the circumstances that happened this episode but it might also be Berserker vs Saber as Archer mentions "entertainment" in the latest ep. Then of course, Berserker might fight Archer in a re-match? Not only that, Rider is coming after Saber again I'm assuming for a re-match. Can't wait to see what's next. Hell, it might turn into some sort of fatal-four way. Well,there will be |
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| one fun trivia next week is the 10th of June. |
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNG. Also it seems Kariya recovered. http://animuthoughts.blogspot.com/2012/06/fate-zero-s2-episode-9-episode-22.html ^thoughts and stuff here |
PikachuXD said: HNNNNNNNNNNNNNG. Also it seems Kariya recovered. http://animuthoughts.blogspot.com/2012/06/fate-zero-s2-episode-9-episode-22.html ^thoughts and stuff here |
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Lumathy said: thesnnitro said: Next week = Epitome of epicness Yumekichi11 said: I would prefer to see Gilgamesh bleeding out and dying along with Rider being the winner. why you hating on King of Heroes? I love Rider too but Gil is pretty awesome in FZ as well. For the same reason I hate him:UBW Ilya |
| YES! Gilgamesh in the next episode! It's been too long since he's been in action. But that was a really disturbing scene with Irisviel..... |
| its was ok i guess hoping for better next ep |
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ssjokg said: Exactly Fate Zero Comrade but to be within context of this episode, small suspicion that he influenced in behaving aggressively with Irisviel but perhaps the initial was last episode and of the wine tasting discovery to say the least. Lumathy said: For the same reason I hate him:UBW IlyaYumekichi11 said: I would prefer to see Gilgamesh bleeding out and dying along with Rider being the winner. why you hating on King of Heroes? I love Rider too but Gil is pretty awesome in FZ as well. Would he be like that if his father would be around and Archer not his servant? DON'T THINK SO! |
| I crey. So hard. And my hatred for Kotomine has just gone up 140%. Irisviel.... :'( Well, it seems like Rider will be battling Gilgamesh and Saber Berserker. I guess it's gonna be down to Gilgamesh and Saber in the end, Kotomine versus Kiritsugu. God, I really don't want to see Rider and/or Waver's death... Especially with that heartwarming part with Waver's "grandpa," you know something terrible is gonna happen to Waver. |
Yumekichi11 said: ssjokg said: Exactly Fate Zero Comrade but to be within context of this episode, small suspicion that he influenced in behaving aggressively with Irisviel but perhaps the initial was last episode and of the wine tasting discovery to say the least. Lumathy said: For the same reason I hate him:UBW IlyaYumekichi11 said: I would prefer to see Gilgamesh bleeding out and dying along with Rider being the winner. why you hating on King of Heroes? I love Rider too but Gil is pretty awesome in FZ as well. Would he be like that if his father would be around and Archer not his servant? DON'T THINK SO! Probably not in FZ but sometime in the future he would become like this.Gil just made his coming out faster.Whether thats a reason to hate Gil I dont know.Since |
| This is definitely Urobuchi Gen's style: Show the characters a faint of happiness before drowning them into complete despair when they die. Seriously, I haven't experienced a fate this cruel since Lancer's demise. I'm not sure if I can take anymore more of series id more tragic and cruel fates like these are lining up. I'm not sure if the death count has risen to 9 or 10. I remember what happened to Aoi last time, but... Either way, the clash between the King of Conquers and the King of Heroes will arrive next week, and it will surely blow all of us away. Every weekend is paradise when Fate/Zero is your entertainment. P.S I remember Ryuudouji Temple looked genetic and boring in Fate/Stay Night, but I can't help but love it when I saw how beautiful it looked in this episode. |
| Waver's fate...How many times have we seen a character have a good time with those around him and the die?Thats Urobuchi's style.But I find it funny since Gen really |
jeroz said: Wow...one fun trivia next week is the 10th of June. |
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jeroz said: one fun trivia next week is the 10th of June. lolufotable what kinda timing is this?! This.. can't be coincidence. |
stAtic91 said: jeroz said: Wow...one fun trivia next week is the 10th of June. Not sure if intentional or coincidence .... |
| Welp, it was nice knowing you Rider. You're still one of the best characters on this show. |
| Irisviel....That was one disturbing scene at the end O_O Well as much as i rather see Archer die instead seems like Rider time is up; tho the fight should be epic |
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| Great episode,the final battle begins!! The scene between Weaver and the old man was great and he is right,nothing in this world is worth dying for.... Kirie FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!! What she did to Iris was unforgivable!!! Only to make Kiritsugu suffer.....FU!! My favorite this episode was obviously Weaver scene with Rider,now that is a great friendship!! Rider is the bro everyone wants!! Well maybe that is Samwise Gamgee but he is close!! The scene of Iris inside the grail was disturbing in many levels....but now they had become one. Next episode the epic battle begins,what makes the novel awesome...ITS GOING TO BEGIN!!! |
| I really hate Kirei. I know it's fiction and so on but that character touched my "I want to kill you" heart's part. Overall it was more than decent. The only thing that lacked this episode was the Saber-Kiritsugu scene. I was hoping for far more, but I guess next episodes will compensate that (21 minutesx3 for only 3 battles - Saber x Berseker, Rider x Gilgamesh and Saber x Gilgamesh is too much, that's why I think so). Epic isn't exactly describing this episode, but it's definitely close to perfection. Waver and Ryder scene was really 11/10. Dropped a tear at Ryder's face after saying "we are friends". The old "grandpa" guessing that Waver isn't their son. +1 So far, my favourite team - Ryder x Waver. I'm glad they live for one more week. Prediction: I think I'm going to cry next episode. Overall: 9.5/10 |
| Sore Wa Himitsu Desu |
ssjokg said: stAtic91 said: jeroz said: Wow...one fun trivia next week is the 10th of June. Not sure if intentional or coincidence .... Eh? I feel like I'm missing something. Is there some kind of holiday on 10th June? |
Soark said: I wouldn't call that holiday O-kaaaaaaaaaaaay. ssjokg said: Not sure if intentional or coincidence .... How did it go? "There is no such thing as a coincidence in this world, there is only the inevitable." |
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