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May 27, 2012 8:50 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Well I got to admit the innovations keep on impressing me in this series. The episode clearly demonstrated with the simplest of things in the spoiler
creepy depictions of classmates. For a minute it brought me back to that movie where the guy puts glasses and instead of humans he sees aliens. With the masks on them it became rather either intriguing or scary. While I do think Eru represented as a Angel in the following,

Among the other innovations of interest to me are the ones in the spoiler
those caricature drawings might be lame but in fact I find them refreshing being a part of the whole setup.

While I do am intrigued at the rather nice display of Houtarou playing around the ABC in the spoiler
with of course candies of all things. Comedic and intriguing is best described as.

The angel depiction of Eru may be the best imagery of her. She really does fit in that image. Innocent and all. However it was kind of MOE and creepy to see many Erus in the spoiler
crawling upon Houtarou.

About Eru Chitanda, Eru was amazing with her faces in the spoiler
ranging from MOE to funny to even shinning. However it’s got better when she expressed her interest in Houtarou’s book in the spoiler
at first I though all of that is great and certainly kept my interest in Eru herself. However nothing prepared me for the following,

WOW! WHAT A DEPICTION!
Along with the spoiler
a most amazing display of Houtarou and Eru along with the Grey/pink concept of Houtarou.

Hyouka once again comes with more innovations for its mysteries and more MOE of Eru along with artful depictions.

About the preview, all I can say is WTF in the spoiler
Houtarou body display? Satoshi maybe? Does not look like one from a girl. So bath time next episode? Oh dear, I can only wonder and wait out on it.

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May 27, 2012 10:21 AM

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Talk about anger, and to crimes. Then having crime is not bad. And she knows why the guy is too lazy to be angry...

lol @ another wonder of hers, which is related to her anger, which she doesn't know why. The math teacher forgot about the area of teaching and mad at what students wasn't learned (he thought they already learned that part). So she wants to know why he made mistake. "I wanna know" attack!!

A and D classes progress... "a" and "d"...

Now he's thinking if he knows about her well enough.

To onsen next ep.?
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May 27, 2012 10:27 AM
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this episode was pretty entertainig

cant wait for next ep
 
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May 27, 2012 11:09 AM

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Ibara went tsundere this episode :P

Discussing the seven deadly sins huh? Let's see here there are:

- lust
- greed
- envy
- sloth (looks @ Oreki)
- gluttony
- wrath
- pride (the root of all sins)

So is Eru the perfect little angel that God has given to this series?



Intermission quote:

A prelude to the scorching days of summer


As for the case, all I have to say is LOL as that happens with me professor sometimes, well English obviously, rarely math.


Looks like next episode is a trip to the onsen which means fan-service and more purple eyes than ever B)


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May 27, 2012 2:32 PM

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I like watching the reenactments the gang think up. Pretty funny to watch.

Onsen visit next episode it appears.
 
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May 27, 2012 3:23 PM
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Looks like they decided to animate from the 4th novel, tho I don't know if that is the chronological order or they are just jumping allover the place. Wouldn't be a first.
 
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May 27, 2012 3:23 PM

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I can't get over how cute Chitanda was in this ep, especially the mini-Chitandas :P


 
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May 27, 2012 3:23 PM

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The teacher must have a really bad eyesight. Chitanda shouldn't be "angry" to him anyway, just say, he mistook something.
 
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May 27, 2012 3:26 PM

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Good episode,it was entertaining.

The animation as always amazing,really liked the drawing part.

The conversations was interesting,first the deadly sins,i kinda agree with Chitanda opinion you need a little of all of them since without one you will always miss something.

Oreki imagine Chitanda as a angel was funny,but at the end his illusion was crushed...poor Oreki.

I also cant imagine Chitanda mad...she is kinda to good to be mad but was nice to see another side of her.

The mystery was fun,not hard really but still not bad.

Well next episode seems Fanservice episode....cant wait!!
 
May 27, 2012 3:35 PM

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Just to say those small "angel-things" were best part of this episode

but than WTF?! how math teacher write letters, that was so dumb it was funny (at least he was making this up - which is kind of clever)
so this is for "mysteries" in this show - still neither of them was too clever till now

but I liked the SoL
Chitanda becomes a bit weirder, but more likable
talking about sins was fun - and also the ending
that SoL part is really nice
 
May 27, 2012 3:43 PM

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Chitanda is still the cutest intrusion into private space EVER.
Seriously, she hits an moe-spike whenever she gets her face so close to his

And ofc, that chibi-angel-chitanda army was the winner of this episode :D
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May 27, 2012 4:21 PM

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Lol at Oreki's reactions to Chitanda insisting that he help her; and once again even if the mystery was "small" i like how Oreki broke it down; they are believable solutions which organize the components of the mystery nicely; the great animation just adds to this. The whole concept of sin and pride, along with sloth was interesting as well considering how he is changing slowly.
 
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Wordsmith said:
Chitanda is still the cutest intrusion into private space EVER.
Seriously, she hits an moe-spike whenever she gets her face so close to his
So close he could steal a kiss with extreme ease...
Wordsmith said:
And ofc, that chibi-angel-chitanda army was the winner of this episode :D
Well, that was hilarious, they reminded me of the pudding "girls" from welcome to the NHK
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Oreki imagine Chitanda as a angel was funny,but at the end his illusion was crushed...poor Oreki.
Yeah, I guess any romantic development will have to wait some more... If there's any at all.
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May 27, 2012 4:31 PM
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wth?! nothing is happening.
"....i am the villain in this story"
 
May 27, 2012 4:40 PM
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he knows nothing about the person yet he helps her the most.
 
May 27, 2012 4:48 PM

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So this time it's about Math teacher getting angry.

And oh how I loved Oreki just get into Eru's trap. Loving it!
 
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I guess after all the intensity of the previous episode they needed a cool down period. This episode was alright, decent choice of visual genjutsu. Chitanda was pretty annoying though, why can she never stay out of Oreki's space? I just want to tell her to calm down.



I thought the mystery was alright,


Did not like the
scene. :(
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May 27, 2012 5:19 PM

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While i did enjoy the episode, this was a very weak follow-up from the last episode.


 
May 27, 2012 5:27 PM

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Weird but enjoyable
 
May 27, 2012 5:29 PM

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Chitanda is such an airhead... doesn't even understand why herself is angry o_o

I facepalmed
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This episode was enjoyable, but I was a bit disappointed in the "mystery" in this one, considering that even I could figure it out only a few minutes in.

I'm still not quite sure where this show is going, but I like watching it. c:
Chitanda is adorable.
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May 27, 2012 5:49 PM

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This is the least interesting episode for me so far.
Maybe because I just found it absurd and stupid to search for why the math teacher got something wrong and why she get angry to begin with... (you know, it's normal for teachers to make mistakes)

Next week looks interesting (not for the fanservice, I hope it's a mystery about ghost :P)
 
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any1 care to explain the pride part.
is it something like his search for trying to figure out chitanda is his pride
 
May 27, 2012 5:52 PM

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You guys....actually enjoyed this?
It was the most stupid mystery ever! It was easy, useless and stupid!
They talked for 10 minutes about getting angry, and then another 10 minutes about Chitanda getting angry against her teacher. And in the end She haven't EVEN say WHY she got angry.
 
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After this episode, I really think there should be romance and drama by the end... this will be an epic anime
 
May 27, 2012 5:59 PM

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i found the first half of this quite enjoyable and entertaining but knowing how Chitanda i knew they were gonna have to end up finding why she got angry and most people could have guessed why the teacher made the mistake -_- just hoping for the day Oreki able to tell her to calm her cute face down over every little thing!
 
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That was... I'm not sure where to even begin. We got a whole episode of "lol da mathz teecha got mad. halp me figur out y." Really? That was just so... mundane and trivial. And then I'm pretty sure someone will come in and say "THIS EPISODE IS REALLY ABOUT HOW DEEP AND MYSTERIOUS CHITANDA IS CAUSE NOBODY CAN FIGURE OUT WHY SHE GOT MAD EITHER LOL U NUBS SO STOOPID CANT REED BETWN DA LINES."

Next episode: The case of the missing box of cookies that Chitanda left in the clubroom at the end of the episode!
 
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partly why i enjoy every episode is because i like seeing chitanda bother the guy and seeing him have no choice and struggle to come up with an explanation that needs to satisfy chitanda. jup hes beeen seduced and thats cute
 
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Oreki hoping for one moment that Chitanda would be his soul mate was awesome and I love how he already fears the "ki ni narimasu". Chitanda showing all her facial expressions and getting angry was great, too.

The question why she got mad and why Omichi made the mistake were lackluster, though. I did not figure it out, I didn't try to but you can't call that a mystery, it wasn't interesting at all.

Next week onsen? Sounds great, looking forward to it.
 
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i swear, every time houtarou breaks down these mysteries, it's ALWAYS SO DAMN INTENSE AND EXCITING to watch

this episode's mystery was so trivial, yet houtarou at work alone made this episode just as good as the rest
love how they were able to revolve a mystery over illegible handwriting xDDD

and "angry" eru was hilarious because she just doesnt really evoke any "anger"

oh, and eru being houtarou's soulmate??? O.o
i really hope so ^_^

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May 27, 2012 6:43 PM

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Oh man they still haven't made something decent with this show.

I mean, let Houtarou find Bin Laden or solve the Greek recession instead of solving Math problems and shit that happens 45 years ago!

Goddamnit do something INTERESTING FOR ONCE!
 
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any 1 care to explain the pride part.
is it something like his search for trying to figure out Chitanda is his pride
IN general the pride and other sins as they talked about were merely at fault of one element in moderation and hence those are sins only when in excess of them they are abused. Like Chitanda mentions pride is good a little off because without it there would be no progress.

Nothing else or deep reading matters in the pride. There was nothing else to base on anything else deeper. The only pride Eru has in this episode is "Hating on people that waste food" but it's a pride worthy of being used.

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The mystery is not with the math teacher's action but with Chitanda herself.
What kind of person is she and ultimately what does she want from Oreki?

At least this is what I think Oreki is thinking.

Oreki is feeling rather warm towards her. "Soulmate!"
 
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Seven sins:
- lust
- greed
- envy
- sloth
- gluttony
- wrath
- pride

LOL. I have 6/7. That's not good, is it? o_O

Chitanda is pretty, but what an airhead... you should know why you get angry.

Houtarou is so sarcastic. I love him. <3
I loled so hard when Houtarou saw her as an angel/soulmate. XD

But... I figured out the mystery before he told the answer. That never happens, so this means the mystery this episode was really weak. Would be a waste of 20 minutes if not for the characters. Honestly...
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Yumekichi11 said:
ynst1nx said:
any 1 care to explain the pride part.
is it something like his search for trying to figure out Chitanda is his pride
IN general the pride and other sins as they talked about were merely at fault of one element in moderation and hence those are sins only when in excess of them they are abused. Like Chitanda mentions pride is good a little off because without it there would be no progress.

Nothing else or deep reading matters in the pride. There was nothing else to base on anything else deeper. The only pride Eru has in this episode is "Hating on people that waste food" but it's a pride worthy of being used.


Not sure if its the subs. but near the end houtaru mentions pride while he was assessing chitanda. i guess i am reading into it too much but i jsut cant help being curious about the romance status between those two >.<. really curious how houtaro sees chitanda
 
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Expecting major developments soon.
 
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This is the least interesting episode for me so far.
Maybe because I just found it absurd and stupid to search for why the math teacher got something wrong and why she get angry to begin with... (you know, it's normal for teachers to make mistakes)

Next week looks interesting (not for the fanservice, I hope it's a mystery about ghost :P)


Kleeny, you didn't get it, do you? The main thing about this episode was not A and D and finding the reason behind getting angry, it was more Oreki's uncovering a bit of the mystery called "Chitanada Eru." The whole point of the episode was said at 22:13.00.

A great episode to my liking. It was quite easy to catch the mistake on A and D as soon as Satoshi mentioned he was in class 1-D and they had the domains of quadratic equation covered, I figured it out. But I absolutely loved the way the power of imagination demonstrated while Chitanda was telling the scenario. And the angel-like Chitanda and the mini-angel-like Chitanda-tachi with their curiosity as seen by Oreki were splendid. Too bad. Oreki thought he had found his soul mate there. :P

And I said this before, I am saying it again, the ED is so adorable. I can watch it like over and over and over again and still watch it all over again! :)

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ynst1nx said:
Yumekichi11 said:
ynst1nx said:
any 1 care to explain the pride part.
is it something like his search for trying to figure out Chitanda is his pride
IN general the pride and other sins as they talked about were merely at fault of one element in moderation and hence those are sins only when in excess of them they are abused. Like Chitanda mentions pride is good a little off because without it there would be no progress.

Nothing else or deep reading matters in the pride. There was nothing else to base on anything else deeper. The only pride Eru has in this episode is "Hating on people that waste food" but it's a pride worthy of being used.


Not sure if its the subs. but near the end houtaru mentions pride while he was assessing chitanda. i guess i am reading into it too much but i jsut cant help being curious about the romance status between those two >.<. really curious how houtaro sees chitanda


I was really confused on what Hotarou meant towards the end of the episode, when he was referring pride to Chitanda. Anyone wanna analyze that?

Also, I don't really see Hyouka as a mystery anymore lol. More like slice of life. The small "mysteries" are great and entertaining, but they just don't really seem like full fledged mysteries to me.

The subtle hints of romance are really cute haha. I really want to see some development between Chitanda and Hotarou. ;-;
 
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Synrite said:
While i did enjoy the episode, this was a very weak follow-up from the last episode.


I agree but still it was pretty enjoyable !
 
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ynst1nx said:
Yumekichi11 said:
ynst1nx said:
any 1 care to explain the pride part.
is it something like his search for trying to figure out Chitanda is his pride
IN general the pride and other sins as they talked about were merely at fault of one element in moderation and hence those are sins only when in excess of them they are abused. Like Chitanda mentions pride is good a little off because without it there would be no progress.

Nothing else or deep reading matters in the pride. There was nothing else to base on anything else deeper. The only pride Eru has in this episode is "Hating on people that waste food" but it's a pride worthy of being used.


Not sure if its the subs. but near the end houtaru mentions pride while he was assessing chitanda. i guess i am reading into it too much but i jsut cant help being curious about the romance status between those two >.<. really curious how houtaro sees chitanda
Quite simply the following,

the very pink matter in his life. However he has a hard formulating a type on her. Perhaps unravelling the notion of love may prove the greatest trouble for him. This just due to my IMO of him having close manners to Sherlock Holmes himself once again. Meet also Satoshi being Watson somewhat.

To being on point, Sherlock Holmes always had problems figuring out love itself really hence why Houtarou has problems, assuming of course till proven.

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I was really confused on what Hotarou meant towards the end of the episode, when he was referring pride to Chitanda. Anyone wanna analyze that?
Seems like more than one person is bothered by that. I don't think it's something too complex.

When he mentioned "pride" he was referring to himself, probably meaning that he was getting too full of himself by trying to explain Chitanda's thought process, when he doesn't really know much about her. At the end he empathizes on "sloth" being enough sin for him, as a reminder to avoid becoming too proud of his deduction abilities... Or something along those lines I think.
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May 27, 2012 7:49 PM

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Pretty boring episode tbh. They just went on and on about trivial matters, which one of them didn't even get solved by the end (why Chitanda got angry). Overall this episode was a big step down compared to last week's. At this point I really hope they'd thrown in some romance to spice up the atmosphere because so far it has been a bit dull...
 
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The episode wasn't that exciting but it was refreshing to see hotarou's brain to work again :) I thought it was pretty adorable how he viewed Chitanda as an angel for those slight few seconds and how he thought she was his "soulmate." But once again, not too exciting for a Hyouka episode. Could have been better, in my opinion.
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The mini chitandas are cute!

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Mayaka is so niceeeee love me some tsundere
 
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Usually, I don't mind, and sometimes enjoy some of the mundane stuff they solve, this however, was not one of them.

It didn't stop me from enjoying other parts of this episode though. The argument in the begining was hilarious to me, because I could see this happening in real life somewhere. Theres gonna be some 'pair' in a one sided argument, some one trying to stop it, but can't and one dude who just dosn't give a shit. I also enjoyed the discussion about the greed and pride stuff and how once Oreki heard Eru say "I'd waste too much energy" He suddenly found her as this goddess. It would have killed me if this was like an abridged series and he said "I... love you..." Not for pairing reasons but because it'd be funny as shit. but it was even funnier when he was shot down as she was Joking.

It felt like a mental rock was thrown at my head when we were trying to figure out why Eru was angry. I mostly defend this show for its down to earth mysteries as they are things people just don't think about, and I can understand suddenly blowing up and forggeting why you did it, but... the span was only in a few hours, you couldn't have forgotten THAT quickly, and figuring out why the teacher would make the mistake is a bit TOO mundane. I could say its to fall into something else later, buuuut... yeah.

Mystery was a downer, but I did like how they broke it down anyway. With This show they can make the small stuff entertaining, and with Hotaru, you can just tell he's just trying to come up with a believabe excuse to feed off Eru with (ah the haruhi-esc feel...). I also like how Hotaru is comparing himself to her and trying to figure her out, I think that may be the biggest mystery this show'll have, even IF murder was involved. Finding reasons for death and a killer can take less than a day or two, figuring out the mind of the oppisite gender though... not so much.

Overall this ep definetly had some good points but the mystery this time around was too mundane for me to find enjoyment in. I can't speak for how easy cases are to solve as I can't solve a mystery for the life of me, but generally I just didn't care.

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I think this episode was pretty good. I liked the whole "seven sins" thing for the first ten minutes, epic how Oreki thought he found his "soul mate" when Chitanda said she didn't like getting tired. Also, funny how "Chitandael" and "Chitanda Eru" sound exactly the same with a Japanese pronunciation. The conversation had a slight Bakemonogatari vibe to it which took place of the usual generic mystery, which was nice.

And since the first ten minutes were done, the next mystery wasn't boring and drawn out as some of them are. I saw the A and D thing pretty easily, though, but it was still a pretty decent mystery.
 
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What I found interesting was the confirmation of some of the negative things I've heard about teaching methods in Japan. I will cut the teacher some slack since it was the review part of the lesson, but he should have recognized something was wrong much more quickly (particularly after calling on a good math student for the answer and drawing a blank). That's the point where I would have looked around the class and checked to see if we had covered this or not. As to the notes about where the class left off, it's my understanding that Japanese teachers get significantly more time to prepare their lesson plans than North American teachers, so he should have been working off a plan for what to do for the lesson, not just a note regarding what page they were at in the book. Of course those of you who don't have a periodic gig supervising, training, or evaluating teachers could probably care less....

Of course I focused on the teacher so much because the mystery was not quite as enthralling as others. I did like Oreki's vision of the angel though.
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SO MUCH MOE!!!!!! Chibi Chitanda >.< was smiling the whole time cant


Oreki will alway help chitanda :)


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