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May 23, 2012 8:07 AM

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I really have so many project due next week that I have absolutely no time to work on MALgraph now. Since we have grown a nice small community here (over 300 club members!), I guess it'd be okay to leave making and polishing up achievements to all of you. Yes, you! Below you have a few files that MALgraph reads in order to show achievements.


List of achievement-worthy titles:
That's all, folks! The list is closed for now, thank you for your help.
Achievements regarding the average score are hardcoded, so they're not on the list. We have anough anime achievements now and need more manga badges.


Brief explanation of the list:
- it's a JSON file, so after making changes paste it to the validator and check for errors
- in titles list, the only important thing is the ID. the name is stored only for convenience and easier franchise sorting (we could've used comments if JSON allowed those)
- the rest is quite self-explanatory, but here's an image to clear things up:



Now, for the badges themselves...
Zipped PSD files (I used Photoshop CS5) (2.81 MiB)
Zipped optiPNG'd images (357 KiB)
I'm not a Photoshop expert and most of the files have a pretty messy layer structure. There's a bonus, unused achievement "Mind=blown" that I wanted to use for Mars of Destruction achievement, but we dropped that idea. This file (anime-mindblown.psd) has the fewest garbage layers, so you can use it as a base structure. We want them to have the same style, so keep the border and rounded transparent edges.

To make things a little bitter, I have to say that all changes need to be accepted by me before they see the global light. These are the things that are welcome:
- adding more titles to existing "genres" list
- adding new genres - but remember that we don't need an achievement for every genre
- adding some nice other groups, e.g. studios, directors
- adding manga achievements (my suggestions: romance, psychological, martial arts, surreal?)
- modifying existing image badges (add background to anime-mecha-1-pilot and anime-ilovethem)
- adding fitting image badges to lists made by others

I don't want to waste your time and make you work for something that wouldn't be accepted, so please post your ideas in Feature requests before starting. All I can say is that creating a fitting image is painful and usually takes about two hours to finish.

We'll probably add "anime completed" and "manga completed" with thresholds: 1000, 2000, 3000, and so on. We don't have images for those, so if you don't know how to help and can use Photoshop then those badges are a good start.

Feel free to change anything in the existing achievements, but please note all the changes you've made, even the smallest ones.

The last thing that needs to be said is that achievements are meant to be difficult to earn, otherwise they're worthless. This means no badges for 20 anime watched, watching 3 SHAFT productions, etc. - you get the idea. Also, as I already noted, we don't need an achievement for every genre, studio, creator, etc. Think of something unique, something that would stand out and be actually worth mentioning.
Please keep that in mind.

Thank you for helping us help you help us all.
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May 23, 2012 9:24 AM

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orz

Thank you so much ^^

I'll start with the manga lists for existing achievements, to test how things would work out.
 
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May 23, 2012 11:17 AM

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I can add some tittles, mostly Mecha ones. And where do we post the notes on what we updated, in this thread or in the change log?
added: AD Police Files
Blue Submarine NO.6
Bubblegum Crisis
Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040
Iczer-one
Mokei Senshi Gunpla Builders Beginning G
Soukou no Strain
to the mecha list
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May 23, 2012 12:01 PM

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Post the notes here. Changelog is a more "official" thread with changes that have already been uploaded.
If you've added something then post it here (link to a new pastie), so others can modify it further. We could use some kind of a SVN but I'm not sure if everyone can use it (I'm new to this too).
 
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May 23, 2012 12:16 PM
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Ludicrously large update:
http://www.pastie.org/private/4batglykfkhme4gkgmjcba

Most of it's the stuff I listed here, though I made a few other changes as I saw them:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=411493&show=100#msg14867045

I had started this before Knightmare made his edit, but if the changes he listed were the only ones he made, they're in this one now too.
 
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May 23, 2012 2:13 PM

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^
they made it

some more updates
http://www.pastie.org/private/tofhwnttl4hd9hrjdd7qcq

added:
Appleseed
Android Kikaider: The animation
Armitage III
Bakuretsu Tenshi
Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse
 
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May 23, 2012 3:06 PM

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I was just thinking, have you tried asking any MAL admins if they might post a sticky on one of the forums? You could have them put up a sticky titled, "MALgraph Achievement designs". Then just pick out which ones look good. There's an old saying, "Work smarter, not harder".
 
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May 23, 2012 3:30 PM

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We have a few people here that seem to want to help, so such a move isn't needed. It could bring us more bad and childish ideas than good ones, actually. ("hurr durr naruto is so manly he should be in gar list xD", etc.)
 
May 24, 2012 3:29 PM

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For starters, manga mahou shoujo list. Yeah, I'm really lazy. With a good dig you ought to find several times as many:
http://pastie.org/private/qqowfk6do5eurms3ibr7tg

I'm not sure if I got the code right, but the list itself should work. Are you going to use them together with anime for thresholds, or will you make a separate section for manga achievements? (since currently we have a common one).
 
May 24, 2012 8:43 PM
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Er, a suggestion to help with housekeeping of the lists as they get longer...sort by series title before posting to Pastie? Wouldn't be hard to do using excel or something similar, and would help prevent duplicate listings.
 
May 24, 2012 9:39 PM

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dont really know how this works but moyashimon and moyashimon returns should be added under slice of life

also five star stories and big o under mecha
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May 25, 2012 11:08 AM

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Sae said:
For starters, manga mahou shoujo list. Yeah, I'm really lazy. With a good dig you ought to find several times as many:
http://pastie.org/private/qqowfk6do5eurms3ibr7tg

I'm not sure if I got the code right, but the list itself should work. Are you going to use them together with anime for thresholds, or will you make a separate section for manga achievements? (since currently we have a common one).
Code looks good

audiodoll said:
dont really know how this works but moyashimon and moyashimon returns should be added under slice of life

also five star stories and big o under mecha

Big O is already on the list, didn't add moyashimon and moyashimon returns because it isn't listed as slice of life in it's genres, not 100% sure if the tags count or not
added:
Mecha: Five Star Stories
http://pastie.org/private/rutb4si8jobo0x5rhpdxa
 
May 25, 2012 11:45 AM

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Fixed curly braces and commas to make it a valid JSON:
http://pastie.org/private/y9izu61j3jsidlkx97vsjq
 
May 25, 2012 12:42 PM

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KnightmareX13 said:
Big O is already on the list

unless im going crazy here no it's not

KnightmareX13 said:
didn't add moyashimon and moyashimon returns because it isn't listed as slice of life in it's genres, not 100% sure if the tags count or not

makes sense
 
May 25, 2012 2:57 PM

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audiodoll said:
KnightmareX13 said:
Big O is already on the list

unless im going crazy here no it's not

my mistake fixed it
http://pastie.org/private/bifdxw6asijkarpxvq
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May 25, 2012 4:50 PM

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umm...
It would be best if you've used the previous version modified by someone else, and modify that one to your liking. Now we have quite a mess, and merging them will take some time...
 
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Went through and alphabetized everything, squishing pasties linked from posts #14 & #16 together. Thought it might help with how titles are listed when you click the achievement badges, but those seem to be sorted by ID#, so that will still show up out of order.

The validator was happy, so hopefully it's all good.

Also added Souten no Ken + Specials to Gar (Fist of the North Star franchise)

http://pastie.org/private/nmwgfligzlefn4rbomqbva
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May 26, 2012 3:48 PM

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Added a few obscure (and not so much) mecha titles.

Also noticed that Jojo animes aren't in the GAR list. THE blasphemy!

http://pastie.org/private/j4qzdp4yb1myhrxxyvcuxq
 
May 26, 2012 4:28 PM
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Maybe needs to create achievments for some big genres such fantasy, sci-fi ..?
 
May 26, 2012 4:42 PM

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Those are way too big. We already have an enormous one (mecha), and remember that we don't need an achievement for every genre.

I hope someone will think of some catchy titles for manga mahou shoujo levels and decides to make neat badges for them. (should we make them black and white or keep them colorful just as anime achievements?)
 
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fri said:
Those are way too big. We already have an enormous one (mecha), and remember that we don't need an achievement for every genre.


Yeah. I considered a fantasy one before, but in the end decided that even if we'd try to somehow limit it (to 'classic' fantasy, for example), it still would be much more trouble than it's worth.

fri said:
I hope someone will think of some catchy titles for manga mahou shoujo levels and decides to make neat badges for them. (should we make them black and white or keep them colorful just as anime achievements?)


I thought about them. My PS skills still suck, but I'll give it a try. How do black&white badges for first levels and coloured one for max level sound?


I also tried making said "aircraft-themed" anime list, but managed to dig only about thirty really relevant titles. Tough luck, eh.
 
May 27, 2012 8:45 PM

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Space Cowboy for titles that don't take place on Earth like Cowboy Bebop and Crest of the Stars?
 
May 28, 2012 1:35 AM

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Myna said:
Space Cowboy for titles that don't take place on Earth like Cowboy Bebop and Crest of the Stars?


that is an awesome idea , I hope to see it
 
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Hey, I was wondering can we have something like a category for Insanity? Shows that deal with personality disorders e.g can range from something mild like Welcome to NHK to more dark ones like Goth or even comedic ones like Detroit Metal City?

Also, I understand that it's not feasible to have a badge for every genre, but what about sub-genres that are somewhat unusual, say Cyberpunk? e.g. Nihei Tsutomu's works, Lain etc.

Myna said:
Space Cowboy for titles that don't take place on Earth like Cowboy Bebop and Crest of the Stars?
That sounds pretty cool.
 
May 28, 2012 6:22 AM

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Nilvius said:
Hey, I was wondering can we have something like a category for Insanity? Shows that deal with personality disorders e.g can range from something mild like Welcome to NHK to more dark ones like Goth or even comedic ones like Detroit Metal City?

not completely opposed since My Anime List has a Psychological and also a Dementia genre but that would cause some over lap in titles
 
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I'm all for both Insanity/Psychological/Dementia and Space Cowboy.
 
May 28, 2012 9:18 AM

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how about achi "too old to watch/read"
for titles which are remakes of old series ? like for example newer versions of black jack or devilman ? that would be pretty good won't it ? and I think it is quiet a feat to gather all those titles on one list :p
 
May 28, 2012 10:58 PM

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yeah achievement like "nostalgiafags" or something sounds fun
maybe the requirement is watching 20 anime <1990 and/or 2000
 
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maybe the requirement is watching 20 anime <1990 and/or 2000
And if you get say 80+ entries, you get the tagline of "Jeez, how ancient are you?" or something.
 
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So, i'll make the list for the 'Historical Anime' achi i sugested, and i would be really pleased if someone that liked the thing and didn't mind did the badges.. i dont have a good relashionship with PS >.<
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Jun 3, 2012 6:42 AM

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Some extra titles to add to slice of life

Hanada Shounen Shi
Victorian Romance Emma & Emma Second Act

Thanks :)
 
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I'm not entirely sure this is the right thread, but I'm curious on this: why are you using lists of specific anime for genre achievements? I haven't seen the code, of course, but it looks like you're parsing the anime info to get the numbers for favorite studios and genres. Wouldn't it be simpler to use those values for achievements instead of checking against a specific list?
 
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kmarple1 said:
I'm not entirely sure this is the right thread, but I'm curious on this: why are you using lists of specific anime for genre achievements? I haven't seen the code, of course, but it looks like you're parsing the anime info to get the numbers for favorite studios and genres. Wouldn't it be simpler to use those values for achievements instead of checking against a specific list?

Favorite genres calculation uses MAL's own genre categories to make at least a rough estimate. But these are wildly innacurate and aren't really usable for achievement list. Besides, to my knowledge, MAL, for whatever obscure reason, doesn't have such category as mahou shoujo, for example.
 
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http://pastie.org/private/s9uqkxvuffmirdab3zwtyq

I add an achievment, "watched all sekai meisaku". Feel free to change the details, the title, the desc ect...
i didnt make an image for that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Masterpiece_Theater

plus, i added some mecha and magical girl anime.
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Please use the last version modified by others. I've updated the first post with Sae's version from 9 days ago.
 
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Can someone add these titles to Slice of Life, please?^^ I'm really not good with the codes. :/



Hota-chan, I can try to make the badges, but which taglines shall we use? %)
 
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Can someone add these titles to Slice of Life, please?^^ I'm really not good with the codes. :/



Hota-chan, I can try to make the badges, but which taglines shall we use? %)


weeeee o/
thanks Vanadis!

i have some ideas, but i'm opened to more ;)

and i can add those titles, no pro ;)


EDIT: We have a problem, my pastie is larger than 64 bits.. :|

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LD2bDeWT6qwBqUcYVHnaJUoHYs5UBtxIgbgsR2ugOv8/edit

here's the url...

I've add the titles above and these

http://myanimelist.net/anime/12291/Acchi_Kocchi
http://myanimelist.net/anime/12893/Danshi_Koukousei_no_Nichijou_Specials
http://myanimelist.net/anime/11739/Kimi_to_Boku._2
http://myanimelist.net/anime/12021/Poyopoyo_Kansatsu_Nikki
http://myanimelist.net/anime/12119/Natsuiro_Kiseki
http://myanimelist.net/anime/9689/Agukaru
http://myanimelist.net/anime/53/Ai_Yori_Aoshi
http://myanimelist.net/anime/394/Ai_Yori_Aoshi:_Enishi
http://myanimelist.net/anime/6709/Ai_Yori_Aoshi:_Yumegatari
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Hota-chan, so here are my first tries (we can also add some text later).
What do you think? I wanted to make them look like Fri's pictures, but my PS skills are veeeeery far from perpect. :/



Fri, thank you for psd files. You really did great work and paid attention to the smallest details :3
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Hota-chan, so here are my first tries (we can also add some text later).
What do you think? I wanted to make them look like Fri's pictures, but my PS skills are veeeeery far from perpect. :/




Fri, thank you for psd files. You really did great work and paid attention to the smallest details :3


Oh, so cute!! Just a thing, I made it 4 lvls (like the others...) Could the one that is missing be from Rose Of Versailles? :$
 
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Nice! I really like the first one. Do you think there should be a short text on it? (Only on the 1st one, 2nd looks okay.) Like with "you've got guts" — just to fill the empty space. I wanted to add some text to sliceoflife-3 but couldn't think of any, so maybe you have any idea?

In the first and second one, is the right border 1px wider or it's incorrectly displayed on my device? Could you check it and post PSD files when you're done?
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Oh, so cute!! Just a thing, I made it 4 lvls (like the others...) Could the one that is missing be from Rose Of Versailles? :$


Thanks.
I know, I thought that I'd make 6-7 badges and then we can choose the best ones.^^
And I didn't use RoV picture, because I wanted to use it for Historical manga achievement (which will be our next task, right?). :3
Instead of that I've chose Fleur-de-lis for lvl max (my first idea was feather pic).
So now we've got France, Japan and USA/England. I'm looking for other country and some "manly" picture (I thought about Willy Fog with "across the Earth" text, but it would be just too cute x))


Nice! I really like the first one. Do you think there should be a short text on it? (Only on the 1st one, 2nd looks okay.) Like with "you've got guts" — just to fill the empty space.


Thank you.^^ Yes, I left that empty place for the text, but couldn't come up with any ideas. :/ (and my englsh is broken <__<) Maybe some kanji?
And Candy can be used fo lvl 1 with something like "Keep growing up with Candy" in the description.


I wanted to add some text to sliceoflife-3 but couldn't think of any, so maybe you have any idea?

I don't think that Alpha needs any text, her world is so silent. %)
And I really like how you worked with the shadows on that picture.


In the first and second one, is the right border 1px wider or it's incorrectly displayed on my device? Could you check it and post PSD files when you're done?


Tried to fix it. PSD files are here:
http://kuroshiro.info/ach_psd.rar
{just a couple of layers and effects <_<}
 
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Vanadis said:

Oh, so cute!! Just a thing, I made it 4 lvls (like the others...) Could the one that is missing be from Rose Of Versailles? :$


Thanks.
I know, I thought that I'd make 6-7 badges and then we can choose the best ones.^^
And I didn't use RoV picture, because I wanted to use it for Historical manga achievement (which will be our next task, right?). :3
Instead of that I've chose Fleur-de-lis for lvl max (my first idea was feather pic).
So now we've got France, Japan and USA/England. I'm looking for other country and some "manly" picture (I thought about Willy Fog with "across the Earth" text, but it would be just too cute x))



OOh, okok :3

Hm... manly.... Kaiketsu Zorro maybe??
 
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Hm... manly.... Kaiketsu Zorro maybe??


Nice idea.^^ Then we'll have Spain as one more country and we don't have to bother about text, just put some nice Z. (and Z is shaped like 2, so it can be lvl 2 achievement).^^
I'll look for some art.
 
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Vanadis said:

Hm... manly.... Kaiketsu Zorro maybe??


Nice idea.^^ Then we'll have Spain as one more country and we don't have to bother about text, just put some nice Z. (and Z is shaped like 2, so it can be lvl 2 achievement).^^
I'll look for some art.


ok, nice :D
 
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fri said:
I wanted to add some text to sliceoflife-3 but couldn't think of any, so maybe you have any idea?

"It's so peaceful"?

These are the titles I came up with for my Space Cowboy idea:
Lv. 1 - Small earthling, big dreams
Lv. 2 - Ready for take off / Houston, we have lift off
Lv. 3 - Walking in Space
Lv. 4 - See you, space cowboy
 
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Myna said:
fri said:
I wanted to add some text to sliceoflife-3 but couldn't think of any, so maybe you have any idea?

"It's so peaceful"?

These are the titles I came up with for my Space Cowboy idea:
Lv. 1 - Small earthling, big dreams
Lv. 2 - Ready for take off / Houston, we have lift off
Lv. 3 - Walking in Space
Lv. 4 - See you, space cowboy
I wanted to make one of the levels a reference to Bebop as well. I'd go with Spike pointing a finger and a text "bang".
 
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fri, you haven't yet added the update list for achivements...
 
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You mean adding that google doc to the first post? Welp, how can others edit it? I have never used google docs and don't see a quick way to edit it, except saving and sharing as my own document. I want to make it as easy as possible for others. Is there a simpler way?
 
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ctrl+c -> ctrl+v
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