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Apr 18, 2012 11:55 AM

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So with this episode it’s clear that this show intends to screw destiny..
 
Apr 18, 2012 1:44 PM
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basabeo said:
So with this episode it’s clear that this show intends to screw destiny..


I hope so! This whole "No, Amata you get nothing" thing seems annoying
 
Apr 18, 2012 3:00 PM

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bastek66 said:
Guys, you seriously still believe Kagura is Apollo?
All his memories of Apollon are fakes implanted probably by Mykage.
Anyone from Evol can be reincarnation of anyone from Genesis now.


If you look at the powers of the people...


Anyone excited for the next few episodes? :D I wonder what Mikono will do and if Fudo will reveal who Zessica is to Amata... and if Amata will regain his memories as Apollonius... so many things could happen!
 
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Lol this anime made me make an account...

On topic, I personally "do not" Think Apollonius and Cecline is even in this series.
Apollonius and Cecline said they would see each other again 12,000 years later like Apollo and Slivia said. Not 24,000 years.

I also don't think (Or more so praying) that Mikono is even interested in Kagura - I in a matter of my own opinion think Mikono wants to say sorry to Kagura this whole time...

Because personally if you can't see from my opinion i'm a fan of Amata, He's too cool for life itself. Like seriously Amata gets thrown around by Kagura to protect his girl, hesitates to shoot him because he doesn't like killing, he's nice enough to politely reject Zessica (who is also boss), And with all this he still tracked on the his one true love MIKONO. So yes I'm a Mikono x Amata fan

But Mikono on the other hand pisses me off... I wish she just let Kagura die, She is so indecisive and selfish it angers me. And has the balls to smile when she see Amata when we all fully know shes always thinking about that bastard Kagura

Anyone who thinks Amata is a stalker is a douche bag cause this whole time your cheering on Kagura who has been continuously been showing up and messing up life itself for everyone and their dog. Keeps getting alittle too friendly and grabbing her, Licking her, Etc. I can't stand Kagura.

Unlike Amata who Mikono blows off every now and then, Kagura has killed more then one person and is responsible for my precious Jin's death. Screw Mykage Unless Mykage was the one implanted the memory's and forced him to be a mindless murder (This before the whole Amata and Mikono), I can only blame him for being a troll...

Now i'm going to list off things that happened and how much of an idiot Mikono is.

Kagura: Kidnaps her Mikono, kills 9+ of her classmates, responsible for jin's death, injures her brother, Beats the living crap out of Amata (who she supposedly LOVES) and gets touchy as hell (seriously is licking her cute or creepy...)

Amata: Goes up her skirt (which she gets pissed over) and fly for other girls.

She has a easier time forgiving Kagura then Amata

But for this episode Kagura is probably Apollo, But Mikono isn't Slivia for sure, Zessica is. Zessica fits the personality and has the same power as Slivia. I will repeat this only once she has the same power.

Slivia's power was to never connect, it was psycokinsis which Zessica holds. Slivia is a direct reincarnation of Cecline she shares the same powers as her(This might also be wrong because she was a full blown human) Now the power of connection was not a element power at all after re-watching aquarion. Slivia was also a shadow angel and she contained this power from this. Which would make sense for why the memory of apollo and slivia appeared when she confessed her love.
Zessica's confession her love, Mikonos connection made it possible for all to see it,

Now about Mugen punch I have two theories about this.

one is that Mikono makes it possible to do mugen punch because of her connection power and since Aquarion takes a full team to be in sync it would make sense why she makes it so easy ( season 1 explains this) And it is just Aquarion activating this power (And it works best when Amata is around because she loves him)

Second and is more likely Amata (like Apollo) has this power alone which is why when all of them were together and with the confession of love making Aquarion its most powerful (oh I have to get to this as well) Zessica powers acted up and I'm personally not sure if Mikono's powers act up on its own or not, But with that the confession and Mikono's jealousy (which should be the second strongest emotion)
Mikono's powers were sent on hyper drive which made all of their feelings connect (making them feel Zessica's love) making Amata send mugen off and Zessica's power of psycokensis sent the punch with time.

Now the whole love thing making Aquarion go crazy yet again makes sense kind of because as the song says " It takes two" Aquarion sings a song that says " It takes three" and having two in the state of love and the other man/lady jealous or plain normal makes for an imbalanced Aquarion.

Alright I'm done on my rant. Kagura is a jerk and Amata is the man
Amata x Mikono Ftw
Amata x Zessica is alright too
Kagura x Mikono is a big no no

AND COME ON GUYS HE'S EARNING HIS LOVE
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Apr 18, 2012 3:32 PM
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DSM144 said:
I watched Sousei no Aquarion recently. I just had to watch it because I thought that it could answer some questions about EVOL. The entire time I was thinking of who is the reincarnation of who. These are my thoughts:
Amata, Kagura = Apollo
Mikono, Zessica = Silvia
Yunoha = Tsugumi
Jin = Jun
Andy = Pierre
Zen Fudo = Gen Fudo
Mykage = Toma

Actually I think your few choices are wrong.

Yunoha = no reincarnation
Jin (last born of Aliens, first killed, similar looks) = Child Angel Futaba (last born of Dark Angels, first killed)
Andy (holes otaku) = Jun Lee (computer geek)
Tsumugi = Mix (the same power based of explosion, holes in hearts)
 
Apr 18, 2012 5:57 PM

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Prohomiez said:
On topic, I personally "do not" Think Apollonius and Cecline is even in this series.
Apollonius and Cecline said they would see each other again 12,000 years later like Apollo and Slivia said. Not 24,000 years.
Refer to my posts spoiler. I described the main four reincarnations powers.

Crossboy said:
Actually I think your few choices are wrong.

Yunoha = no reincarnation
Jin (last born of Aliens, first killed, similar looks) = Child Angel Futaba (last born of Dark Angels, first killed)
Andy (holes otaku) = Jun Lee (computer geek)
Tsumugi = Mix (the same power based of explosion, holes in hearts)
We don't know if Jun or Tsugumi had previous reincarnations so their powers may or may not be their own. Likewise, Jin, Yunoha, Andy, and Mix's powers may be their own or their reincarnations. There were tons of other students in the first season that we never got to even see in combat and there are even more that we haven't seen in combat this time. Additionally within these sets of 12000 years, there are other elements that never entered these mythical battles that we get to enjoy.
 
Apr 18, 2012 6:17 PM
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Prohomiez said:
Lol this anime made me make an account...

On topic, I personally "do not" Think Apollonius and Cecline is even in this series.
Apollonius and Cecline said they would see each other again 12,000 years later like Apollo and Slivia said. Not 24,000 years.

I also don't think (Or more so praying) that Mikono is even interested in Kagura - I in a matter of my own opinion think Mikono wants to say sorry to Kagura this whole time...

Because personally if you can't see from my opinion i'm a fan of Amata, He's too cool for life itself. Like seriously Amata gets thrown around by Kagura to protect his girl, hesitates to shoot him because he doesn't like killing, he's nice enough to politely reject Zessica (who is also boss), And with all this he still tracked on the his one true love MIKONO. So yes I'm a Mikono x Amata fan

But Mikono on the other hand pisses me off... I wish she just let Kagura die, She is so indecisive and selfish it angers me. And has the balls to smile when she see Amata when we all fully know shes always thinking about that bastard Kagura

Anyone who thinks Amata is a stalker is a douche bag cause this whole time your cheering on Kagura who has been continuously been showing up and messing up life itself for everyone and their dog. Keeps getting alittle too friendly and grabbing her, Licking her, Etc. I can't stand Kagura.

Unlike Amata who Mikono blows off every now and then, Kagura has killed more then one person and is responsible for my precious Jin's death. Screw Mykage Unless Mykage was the one implanted the memory's and forced him to be a mindless murder (This before the whole Amata and Mikono), I can only blame him for being a troll...

Now i'm going to list off things that happened and how much of an idiot Mikono is.

Kagura: Kidnaps her Mikono, kills 9+ of her classmates, responsible for jin's death, injures her brother, Beats the living crap out of Amata (who she supposedly LOVES) and gets touchy as hell (seriously is licking her cute or creepy...)

Amata: Goes up her skirt (which she gets pissed over) and fly for other girls.

She has a easier time forgiving Kagura then Amata

But for this episode Kagura is probably Apollo, But Mikono isn't Slivia for sure, Zessica is. Zessica fits the personality and has the same power as Slivia. I will repeat this only once she has the same power.

Slivia's power was to never connect, it was psycokinsis which Zessica holds. Slivia is a direct reincarnation of Cecline she shares the same powers as her(This might also be wrong because she was a full blown human) Now the power of connection was not a element power at all after re-watching aquarion. Slivia was also a shadow angel and she contained this power from this. Which would make sense for why the memory of apollo and slivia appeared when she confessed her love.
Zessica's confession her love, Mikonos connection made it possible for all to see it,

Now about Mugen punch I have two theories about this.

one is that Mikono makes it possible to do mugen punch because of her connection power and since Aquarion takes a full team to be in sync it would make sense why she makes it so easy ( season 1 explains this) And it is just Aquarion activating this power (And it works best when Amata is around because she loves him)

Second and is more likely Amata (like Apollo) has this power alone which is why when all of them were together and with the confession of love making Aquarion its most powerful (oh I have to get to this as well) Zessica powers acted up and I'm personally not sure if Mikono's powers act up on its own or not, But with that the confession and Mikono's jealousy (which should be the second strongest emotion)
Mikono's powers were sent on hyper drive which made all of their feelings connect (making them feel Zessica's love) making Amata send mugen off and Zessica's power of psycokensis sent the punch with time.

Now the whole love thing making Aquarion go crazy yet again makes sense kind of because as the song says " It takes two" Aquarion sings a song that says " It takes three" and having two in the state of love and the other man/lady jealous or plain normal makes for an imbalanced Aquarion.

Alright I'm done on my rant. Kagura is a jerk and Amata is the man
Amata x Mikono Ftw
Amata x Zessica is alright too
Kagura x Mikono is a big no no

AND COME ON GUYS HE'S EARNING HIS LOVE


100% Agree, Nice LOGIC btw..:D
 
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i dont think many of you have watched the first series or paid much attention. In the original aquarion, what was 2( apollonius and Celiane) became 3 (Sirius, Silvia, and Apollo), so anyone in Evol has the potential to be anyone from my guess. And one of the big themes in the original was changing fate, Silvia and Sirius had wing signs, and anyone who had wings (besides Apollo) were basically the same as shadow angels which wasn't a good thing since during the whole series they were fighting shadow angels
 
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ryriryan said:
i dont think many of you have watched the first series or paid much attention. In the original aquarion, what was 2( apollonius and Celiane) became 3 (Sirius, Silvia, and Apollo), so anyone in Evol has the potential to be anyone from my guess. And one of the big themes in the original was changing fate, Silvia and Sirius had wing signs, and anyone who had wings (besides Apollo) were basically the same as shadow angels which wasn't a good thing since during the whole series they were fighting shadow angels
No. They didn't have wing signs. The wing sign is shown when the hero's body aligns with the sun. Merely having wings is just being a descendant of the Shadow Angels. Being the great... grand children of Apollonius and Celiane, Sirius and silvia were part shadow angel. As for Sirius and Silvia being the dual reincarnation of Celiane, it was as Touma said, to make up for her "sin" of capturing the heart of Apollonius. The fact that Silvia and Sirius had a wing each has nothing to do with Celiane, who was human. The proof of her not having any wings is that Apollonius was persecuted because of their love.

I paid a lot of attention to Sousei no Aquarion and I've re-watched it several times because I enjoyed it so much. There as significant signs as to who is who's reincarnation once you realize what ability belongs to what person. The difficult part is that people have 2 abilities, Their reincarnations, and their own. Their own develops over time and their reincarnations abilities can appear at any time. Apollonius' abilities are probably limitless because he's a god.(Yes, I believe he's a god, he did create the universe that day...)

The thing that bothers me about you ryriryan is that you said Sirius and Silvia had a wing sign after arrogantly saying "I dont think many of you watched the first series..." I think you need to think more deeply as to what is what.

 
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HAHAHA Zessica PWND them all! .......and LOL at the new infinity punch...o.O
 
Apr 19, 2012 6:54 AM
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I haven't watched the original so I was wondering...anyone who has do you think there should be so much stock on the original character reincarnations?
 
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Where's my OSORE D:<
 
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kyled00m said:
ryriryan said:
i dont think many of you have watched the first series or paid much attention. In the original aquarion, what was 2( apollonius and Celiane) became 3 (Sirius, Silvia, and Apollo), so anyone in Evol has the potential to be anyone from my guess. And one of the big themes in the original was changing fate, Silvia and Sirius had wing signs, and anyone who had wings (besides Apollo) were basically the same as shadow angels which wasn't a good thing since during the whole series they were fighting shadow angels
No. They didn't have wing signs. The wing sign is shown when the hero's body aligns with the sun. Merely having wings is just being a descendant of the Shadow Angels. Being the great... grand children of Apollonius and Celiane, Sirius and silvia were part shadow angel. As for Sirius and Silvia being the dual reincarnation of Celiane, it was as Touma said, to make up for her "sin" of capturing the heart of Apollonius. The fact that Silvia and Sirius had a wing each has nothing to do with Celiane, who was human. The proof of her not having any wings is that Apollonius was persecuted because of their love.

I paid a lot of attention to Sousei no Aquarion and I've re-watched it several times because I enjoyed it so much. There as significant signs as to who is who's reincarnation once you realize what ability belongs to what person. The difficult part is that people have 2 abilities, Their reincarnations, and their own. Their own develops over time and their reincarnations abilities can appear at any time. Apollonius' abilities are probably limitless because he's a god.(Yes, I believe he's a god, he did create the universe that day...)

The thing that bothers me about you ryriryan is that you said Sirius and Silvia had a wing sign after arrogantly saying "I dont think many of you watched the first series..." I think you need to think more deeply as to what is what.



alright you got me there i guess the phrase "wing sign" was improper, However that wasn't even the point i was mainly trying to get across. No one has even said anything close to what i did get right, so i was arrogant and some of that is my fault but the source of that was everyone Else's arrogance and ignorance that pissed me off. You seem like a alright guy kyled00m, but i dislike how the only thing you mainly attack about me was the misuse of the word "wing sign" because I've been in your position
 
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andyreaperchi said:
I haven't watched the original so I was wondering...anyone who has do you think there should be so much stock on the original character reincarnations?
I believe the wing sign points out Apollonius and Amata showed it in the second episode. Apart from that, when Apollo/Apollonius and Silvia/Celiane said that they'd meet again, it might have been Apollo telling Silvia and Apollonius telling Celiane at the same time. They took 12000 years to meet after they died and then only after they finally figured out who each other was and accepted it, they were so quickly separated...

Apollo as the reincarnation of Apollonius used his life-force and power to revive the tree of life, fertilize it, and heal Altair(which is connected to Earth). I think when Apollonius created the universe, he made Earth the mirror of Altair to prevent one from destroying the other, mutually assured destruction...

Anyways, because of this, both ApolloxSilvia and ApolloniusxCeliane's love stories would continue to be finished. Add this to Fudo Zen saying "The legend of the end... is about to begin." This shows that what happened 12000 ago wasn't the real end, just a time when they met and healed some of the wounds in both worlds.

My analysis could be wrong but there are too many events in the previous season that bother are lacking explanations. People would usually blow them off since they never gave explanations and didn't seem too big but even the smallest event can cause massive misunderstandings.


Edit:
I'm re-watching this seasons Aquarion a little bit and I noticed something interesting "You kind of smell like her." (Kagura talking to shrade and referring to Mikono) This could mean that Shrade is the reincarnation of Sirius. His sword play and mannerisms are similar. O_O

Second Edit:
Has anyone wondered who the Shadow Angels from the first season reincarnated as?

Also... Amata's mother... could she be the reincarnation of the tree of life? This is just a shot in the darkness. I have no hopes that she is but she's a key to the puzzle that's been bothering me a lot. She fell asleep as she went to Altair... u_u why!!!
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hesitates to shoot him because he doesn't like killing

I'll have to disagree with you here. He seemed pretty determined to shoot Kagura at that point in time. Let's just agree to disagree. And to add to that, I cannot recall any scene which mentioned that Amata doesn't like killing.

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But Mikono on the other hand pisses me off... I wish she just let Kagura die, She is so indecisive and selfish it angers me. And has the balls to smile when she see Amata when we all fully know shes always thinking about that bastard Kagura

Unlike Amata who Mikono blows off every now and then, Kagura has killed more then one person and is responsible for my precious Jin's death. Screw Mykage Unless Mykage was the one implanted the memory's and forced him to be a mindless murder (This before the whole Amata and Mikono), I can only blame him for being a troll...

Let me stop you here. As people have already established in previous threads, you have to remember that this is a war. Not just any regular war, one which determines life and death. Everyone here would have no qualms when it comes to battle. If you look at all the past fights, they all had a 'destroy first, find corpse later' attitude which I cannot blame them for. Like the battle against your beloved Jin. Did they say "Oh there's a pilot in there, so let's try to avoid the cockpit and just aim to capture him ok?"
Nope. They pretty much went "SPAAAARRRRTTTTTAAAAAAA!!!!"

And you beloved Jin has blood on his hands as well if you think about it.

ONE MORE THING. Surely you can recall the time before Kagura broke free and attacked NEO DEAVA? What happened to him? That's right. He was freaking physically AND mentally tortured by Mykage to the brink of insanity (as anyone would assume). He broke and went berserk.

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Kagura: Kidnaps her Mikono, kills 9+ of her classmates, responsible for jin's death, injures her brother, Beats the living crap out of Amata and gets touchy as hell (seriously is licking her cute or creepy...)

1) Well, he had to kidnap her. I mean people were ATTACKING him. What other way did he have if he wanted to get to Mikono?

2) JESUS EFFIN' CHRIST! Why do people nitpick on that specific 9 deaths? Not like nobody else killed anyone.

3) He did NOT kill Jin O___o AFAIK, Kagura never had any power to send fatal flower petal through solid objects.

4) Injures her brother? Right... cos he should totally have been a man and taken all them punches. And be buried alive. And shot in the back. Cos that's what Amata would have done.

5) Beats Amata up? Cos he was cockblocking every single time? Fine, maybe Kagura was being a d!ck here.

6) As I have said before, he does lack finesse in the mannerism department. We can also link it somewhat to the lack of women in Altair. So when he met what he believes to be the love of his life as dictated by his instincts..... Dinda like how men in the olden times kiss the hands of women upon meeting I suppose. Then when he kidnapped her in ep 15, she asked him to kill her which due to Kagura's reverse speak, he took it as a sign to proceed with "killing" (if you know what I mean XD) Then she asked him to stop, so he "stopped".


This is just my speculation but why did Mikono found it easy to forgive Kagura? Probably because she did not sense any ill will from him, so the "screw-you-evil-person-i-will-NEVER-forgive-you" feeling is gone. And the fact that Kagura is pretty darn loyal (though she hasn't seen it yet).

I think why many of us are turned off my AmataxMikono (well at least for me) is due the fact that he had this unexplained extreme undying passion when he barely even knew her. If they had let it develop and made it less extreme, I believe people would like him more. Let's admit, Amata did have it easy.

That's about it I guess. I assure you that I bear no ill will against you. I apologise beforehand if I sounded a wee bit cynical in my post. I don't and won't hate you for loving Amata. :D
 
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2) JESUS EFFIN' CHRIST! Why do people nitpick on that specific 9 deaths? Not like nobody else killed anyone.


First of all who attack who? Altair attacked Vega first. Neo-Deava has every right to defend and kill all invaders. You can't justify Kagura killing 9 students by saying Vega's side killed too. Neo-Deava is always on the defending side. Anybody they killed were INVADERS.
 
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First of all who attack who? Altair attacked Vega first. Neo-Deava has every right to defend and kill all invaders. You can't justify Kagura killing 9 students by saying Vega's side killed too. Neo-Deava is always on the defending side. Anybody they killed were INVADERS.


I think you missed my point. Vegans(?) defending for themselves is perfectly fine.

As for Kagura:

First, it was not intended. He wasn't aiming to kill them. They were just at the wrong place at the wrong time. Once again, impaired judgement and the will to survive caused him to launch the attack in the first place. What I was a bit miffed about was the fact that people made him like the ultimate evil just because of those deaths. If now other Altairians such as Jin succeeded to defeat Aquarion in their last battle but killed some people in the process, would people have bastardised him as much as they are bashing Kagura now?
 
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Stop talking about kills ffs. Apollonius slaughtered tens of thousands of humans and Celiane probably killed tons of shadow angels. Humanity can never forgive Apollonius and the shadow angels can never forgive Celiane. Likewise each side has no choice but to overlook the kills if they hope to form peace. You don't need to forgive someone to become peaceful with someone....
 
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Stop talking about kills ffs. Apollonius slaughtered tens of thousands of humans and Celiane probably killed tons of shadow angels. Humanity can never forgive Apollonius and the shadow angels can never forgive Celiane. Likewise each side has no choice but to overlook the kills if they hope to form peace. You don't need to forgive someone to become peaceful with someone....


My bad. For that I apologise. Prob should have thought of that first.
 
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Are these people summarizing the whole series? :D

First of all i'd like to say that this episode is really awesome! Zessica totally rocks! Up until now i'm not sure who i want to end up with Mikono, but seeing Amata making up his mind of fighting even that what they call destiny, and he doesn't plan on giving up without doing anything, well i can say i'm impressed, it's a good thing he doesn't end up as an annoying character here.. Looking forward to the next episode.. :D
 
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porkiewpyne said:
Prohomiez said:
hesitates to shoot him because he doesn't like killing

I'll have to disagree with you here. He seemed pretty determined to shoot Kagura at that point in time. Let's just agree to disagree. And to add to that, I cannot recall any scene which mentioned that Amata doesn't like killing.

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But Mikono on the other hand pisses me off... I wish she just let Kagura die, She is so indecisive and selfish it angers me. And has the balls to smile when she see Amata when we all fully know shes always thinking about that bastard Kagura

Unlike Amata who Mikono blows off every now and then, Kagura has killed more then one person and is responsible for my precious Jin's death. Screw Mykage Unless Mykage was the one implanted the memory's and forced him to be a mindless murder (This before the whole Amata and Mikono), I can only blame him for being a troll...

Let me stop you here. As people have already established in previous threads, you have to remember that this is a war. Not just any regular war, one which determines life and death. Everyone here would have no qualms when it comes to battle. If you look at all the past fights, they all had a 'destroy first, find corpse later' attitude which I cannot blame them for. Like the battle against your beloved Jin. Did they say "Oh there's a pilot in there, so let's try to avoid the cockpit and just aim to capture him ok?"
Nope. They pretty much went "SPAAAARRRRTTTTTAAAAAAA!!!!"

And you beloved Jin has blood on his hands as well if you think about it.

ONE MORE THING. Surely you can recall the time before Kagura broke free and attacked NEO DEAVA? What happened to him? That's right. He was freaking physically AND mentally tortured by Mykage to the brink of insanity (as anyone would assume). He broke and went berserk.

Prohomiez said:
Kagura: Kidnaps her Mikono, kills 9+ of her classmates, responsible for jin's death, injures her brother, Beats the living crap out of Amata and gets touchy as hell (seriously is licking her cute or creepy...)

1) Well, he had to kidnap her. I mean people were ATTACKING him. What other way did he have if he wanted to get to Mikono?

2) JESUS EFFIN' CHRIST! Why do people nitpick on that specific 9 deaths? Not like nobody else killed anyone.

3) He did NOT kill Jin O___o AFAIK, Kagura never had any power to send fatal flower petal through solid objects.

4) Injures her brother? Right... cos he should totally have been a man and taken all them punches. And be buried alive. And shot in the back. Cos that's what Amata would have done.

5) Beats Amata up? Cos he was cockblocking every single time? Fine, maybe Kagura was being a d!ck here.

6) As I have said before, he does lack finesse in the mannerism department. We can also link it somewhat to the lack of women in Altair. So when he met what he believes to be the love of his life as dictated by his instincts..... Dinda like how men in the olden times kiss the hands of women upon meeting I suppose. Then when he kidnapped her in ep 15, she asked him to kill her which due to Kagura's reverse speak, he took it as a sign to proceed with "killing" (if you know what I mean XD) Then she asked him to stop, so he "stopped".


This is just my speculation but why did Mikono found it easy to forgive Kagura? Probably because she did not sense any ill will from him, so the "screw-you-evil-person-i-will-NEVER-forgive-you" feeling is gone. And the fact that Kagura is pretty darn loyal (though she hasn't seen it yet).

I think why many of us are turned off my AmataxMikono (well at least for me) is due the fact that he had this unexplained extreme undying passion when he barely even knew her. If they had let it develop and made it less extreme, I believe people would like him more. Let's admit, Amata did have it easy.

That's about it I guess. I assure you that I bear no ill will against you. I apologise beforehand if I sounded a wee bit cynical in my post. I don't and won't hate you for loving Amata. :D


Of course Amata had it easy hes not an irritating d!ck face

K enough on dissing kagura, Lets be honest, most people who had been mentally f'd or physically would turn out emotionless or scared.

This guy turned in to a murderer, Ok, i'll give it that Apollonius killed everyone who apposed him, but no one is telling Kagura to kill anyone. Kagura's one and only job is to collect females (also Amata doesn't want to kill people to be honest most invaders aren't even pilioted)

THAT IS BULL LOCKS AMATA WOULD NEVER AND I MEAN NEVER GO SO FAR AS SERIOUSLY Injuring someone fatally. Amata was scared and from the episode his hands were trembling. The humans have been on the defensive side for so long I don't even think they know how to kill.

I'm honestly too lazy to go too deep in to anything, but I think I went in-depth enough in my super long post, But seriously I don't know what your talking about when you said (Apollonius created the universe) Come on Be serious
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Amata was steadying his resolve, He would have killed him... If he's the reincarnation of Apollonius as I feel, then killing Kagura would be the same as stepping on an insect... Amata's not as sheltered as you're letting others to believe. Abandoned by his mother and treated as a monster or outcast by those around him since he was young... you could say he's been in the dumps just as Apollo was ... And these things are just what we've been shown, there could be more in his past that could push him to kill...

Kagura's was a fighter, not an abductor. The reason he's trying to kidnap Mikono is his 12000 year old love.

Elements that were collected were either male and enslaved or females who fall asleep upon reaching Altair or died as Altair's own females have... So kidnapping humans is as bad, if not worse than killing them.
 
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Its not been established that Amata is even Apolloinus which I'm sure he isn't, Their emotions don't match up at all. Again Amata is rather normal? Kagura has both apolloinus and apollo's personality only difference is he takes ownership which actually I believe Apolloinus did, while apollo was worried about his friends and such other.

And the only person singling out Kagura is Kagura, Kagura pushes everyone around him away, You know those cold blooded Generals in shows thats what Kagura is. Fact is if kagura don't like you, HE DON'T LIKE YOU

And Amata hasn't shown any killing intent, Hes always been about Mikino ( which is also a apollonius trait), And at the beginning of the show I believe She was thinking about him too. IF ANYTHING HE WAS GOING TO SHOOT HIM, BECAUSE WHEN AMATA CAME TO SAVE HER SHE SEEMED LIKE SHE NEEDED IT.

Don't get it wrong btw d00m we own our respective opinion, I'm just a go hard fan for Amata I really can't see why no one else likes him... He is the only person who goes well along the storyline and isn't mentally challenged. He smiles when he sees his girl, Probability is that he isn't going to get mikono which is the moment i cry myself to sleep, And is going to let her go cause he knows it would be the right thing...


Probably going to go something like this, He's going to save her one day, She's going to be kissing or something Kagura, Amata's going to go in to a state of depression. get comforted by Zessica, rebound her. and you guys are going to get the ending you want the retarded one...

Rebounding isn't cool man, If Amata gets with Mikono = good ending because it means Kagura gets his senses back, Zessica can finally move on and Zen can go to hell... Kagura and Zessica won't make a good couple either so if this happens I will troll the hell out of this show. But from the new opening it looks like after this confession mikono is going to get kidnapped again fall for kagura, zessica and Amata is going to fight to get her back (Amata going to feel dependent on zessica and grow feelings for her.)
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sometime fangirlz have weird fantasies.
 
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Prohomiez said:
Its not been established that Amata is even Apolloinus which I'm sure he isn't, Their emotions don't match up at all. Again Amata is rather normal? Kagura has both apolloinus and apollo's personality only difference is he takes ownership which actually I believe Apolloinus did, while apollo was worried about his friends and such other.
Kagura shows tons of signs of Apollo, but only traces of Apollonius. Amata shows tons of signs, including the wing sign as he aligned with the sun. Kagura aligned with the sun several times now and not once has the wing sign shown. Aquarion is a part of Apollonius. I'm not sure how but when Apollonius calls, Aquarion reacts! Amata's heart called Aquarion and it reacted.

There is no great amount of proof that Kagura is Apollonius but there has been exponential amounts of proof that Kagura is Apollo. There has been a significant amounts of proof that Amata is most likely Apollonius too. You can only reincarnate from one source. Apollonius and apollo are completely different sources for the process of reincarnation. Also, you are not who your reincarnation was the reincarnation of.

I dont feel that I need to elaborate any more.... I'm not trying to say your perspective is wrong, I'm trying to say you're like Sirius, looking at the sky and missing out on the flowers.

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I'm a guy...
AmataxKagura fantasies? Sound's juicy. haha
 
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I'm like sirus? I'm not writing the poems~

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Looking back at Episode 13 when both Aquarion's fight together and have a link... tells me Kagura's going to be joining Amata's side... I get the feeling that there's going to be a dangerous battle where the pairs fight together after figuring out who is who... ApolloxCeliane and ApolloniusxSilvia .... Looking back at previous episodes always gives understanding, foreshadowing, and the joy of watching the good parts over again :D
 
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Sometimes, I don't get the fan character wars going on.
Seriously, it doesn't make you look good when you snap just because of your favourite character gets flame, and you shoot back with the same insults. The reasons WHY I will never, ever do pairings is because of this. Don't take the series so seriously plox, it will ruin your fun of enjoying the anime for being the way it is.

I'll just be neutral. No one is ever fair when judging characters. I have not taken much of a liking to Kagura (quite aggressive you see, I don't really get him even though I know he's similar to Apollo from the previous season. I just can't stand him being controlled by Mykage and he doesn't even have a will or anything. Right.) or Amata (too passive and so insensitive, he just can't get a grip of himself oh goodness how is he any different I wonder). Mikono's indecisive (And that's why we have the goddam wars between pairings, oh thank you very much, you just can't decide princess.), and Zessica just lost her flair. I thought she would be more of a cheerful one but she just gets more emo and emo as time goes on.

Just an biased opinion. Don't take it so seriously, like I said way above.

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@Hajimeru_Rinko: Once again I apologise for what I did. Didn't mean to start a flame war. Never was a fanboy of any of the chara (maybe except Sazanka :3) but I would defend any chara (even Mykage) if people were to rage at him for insignificant reasons. Maybe I'm the devil's advocate LOL. Anyway, it's on this basis that I can't counter your arguments. IMHO, they are sound and you don't specifically single out a chara and nitpick on him/her.

Not sure if I mentioned this before but I think it is great that the creators decided not to make the reincarnations a dead giveaway and let us keep speculating till now.
 
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Not sure if I mentioned this before but I think it is great that the creators decided not to make the reincarnations a dead giveaway and let us keep speculating till now.
No, they just wanted to torment the fanbase. haha

I do think that they are almost dead giveaways for Apollonius and Apollo... What was shocking to think is that Shrade is Sirius.... So similar @_@
 
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this episode was truely amazing! the new op,zessica's confession,epic flash backs!woooo! got me pumped even more
 
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Great Ep, Hope Zessica confession gets somewhere with it as shes a great female char , It would be nice for once to not follow the generic "princess" type paring that is almost done in so many times. Since there are apparently reports of a "surprise" about who is actually Silvia

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At least the new OP is good, unlike the shitty ass ED. For a minute there I thought Zessica was getting cockblocked as usual like in other anime, but glad that didn't happen. Good to see Apollo again too.
 
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Yes Zessica! well kinda, I wish she had a chance. I'm glad she didn't back out after the first confession wasn't heard. I don't like Mikono, but I'm sure we are stuck with here. I'd much rather like a Zessica pairing.

Hey the black guy and bromance girl got to do something. Despite outplaying the other side they lost due to punching through time. what the hell?

I guess there's going to be some full invasion and Kagura return in the future?
 
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It was kinda nice and nostalgic to see characters from Sousei no Aquarion, I wonder what does this say to person who skipped prequal.
Well So far i can say i prefer Sousei no Aquarion, this sequel is not bad but i still feel like somethings wrong with it.
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awesome episode enve the original song of Aquarion was played perfect.
 
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I never saw the original so I am kind of just going with it! Yay for next episode! Wanna talk more message me.
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Aww that's cute XD Hmm and I thought love is forbidden? O_O If so, then why is Fudo shouting "SUUUUUUUUKI" to the whole world? Sometimes I really don't understand what's going on. Or I just don't understand Fudo. Actually I don't like Fudo and his random deep quotes/narration. Anyways, the practice fight was pretty entertaining, I liked Zessica's confession. Also, I realize it's kind of late to comment on this, but wow, the naming of most of the attacks are...I laugh. In a good way though :)
 
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The camp is back in full power! No Kagura with his stupid lines! And Zessica does a full blooded confession in combat! I'm in her camp now. If wasn't such a naive kid he'd realize there's a great gal right in front of him.

Love this episode.
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epic episode!!!! Zessica you go!!! XD
 
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SUKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man that was great! Loved seeing Apollo and Silvie again <3!
But man I am really confused now, who is WHO?!!!!!

New OP is meh :/
 
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Wow, i'm impressed!
This one was great :D
 
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The scenery porn continues, goddamn it all.

This episode especially special with flashback from Sousei no Aquarion.
If only the story was at least somewhat more interesting than investing it all on these teenager's emotions.
 
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Noo, shit I thought the previous ending was just for one episode! The first one was so much better :(

I also prefered the 1st opening over this one. And what's with all these recycled senes ?

Plus, the Sousei no Aquarion scene was really interesting, I guess I'll watch it after this one
 
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I wonder who is the girl,the girl that has a paper bag?
 
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Woohoo!!! Aquarion flashback!!!
 
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Wow, Zessica confessed to Amata in front of Mikano too!!! D:

And it made Aquarion glow pink with love lol.

The flashbacks of the original too! <3
 
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