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Apr 11, 2012 11:57 AM

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I feel kinda bad for them having to defend all their moves, but at least it shows that they're looking at public feedback.
But anyways, grats to Rita, I loved her songs
 
Apr 11, 2012 12:07 PM

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As i say, Key have no prepared to make a LB 's anime.
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Apr 11, 2012 12:13 PM

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I don't see why they couldn't wait a few more years for KyoAni.

Since the wait could be a year, few more years, or forever...


And the fact that they've been waiting since 2007~2008.


Clannad After Story didn't finish airing until 2009. So I doubt they were expecting Little Busters to be done immediately after.
 
Apr 11, 2012 12:17 PM

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Just a quick question, which anime(s) is/are KyoAni busy with anyway?


 
Apr 11, 2012 12:39 PM

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This kind of feels like Kanon...
I heard The first Kanon was a fail.
I must admit KyoAni did a great job bringing Kanon(fail) to the miraculously brilliant Kanon 2006.

I'd bet JC Staff is trying to become like the evil guy that really sucks so that the good guy (KyoAni) looks really good.

Looking at KyoAni they don't have that many anime done but they've done some of the best popular ones like Haruhi, K-on, and all of Key's previous work (except Angel Beats)

Oh my, look at JC Staff... they've ruined TypeMoon's Shingetsutan Tsukihime! Shame on them! The only ones that are noteworthy of JC were Toradora, Toara, the first season of Shakugan, Kamisama no Memo.
(LOL.... just realized these were famous due to loli tsunderes...)

I wondered why they didn't ask one of the the Angel Beats's companies to do this; they did a excellent job with Angel Beats...


 
Apr 11, 2012 12:39 PM

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Man, people are really overreacting to JC Staff. I would hate to be in their shoes right now, with all the Little Busters backlash. Honestly, I hoped for KyoAni to get LB!. However, JC Staff remains a good studio that releases some solid titles (Zero no Tsukaima series, Toradora, etc). I even enjoyed some of their underrated titles like Kamisama no Memochou. I trust JC Staff, since they seem to be putting all their efforts on this one. Hope it doesn't disappoint.
 
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I figured as much. Dang KyoAni for being too busy, but I like just about all their stuff, and from what i've seen of their upcoming projects, they look good.

(If only they would make up for this by doing K-ON! season 3 :P)
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Apr 11, 2012 1:01 PM
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jmal said:
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Just a quick question, which anime(s) is/are KyoAni busy with anyway?


Let's hope for FMP but you know it will not happen. Not moe enough.
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Apr 11, 2012 1:09 PM

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:3 YAAAY
I guess all I could do now is wait... though I'm still not really that happy... guess we'll see
XDD haha Kudos to Rita, she deserves it
 
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OriginGenesis said:

Looking at KyoAni they don't have that many anime done but they've done some of the best popular ones like Haruhi, K-on, and all of Key's previous work (except Angel Beats)


Again, Angel Beats isn't by Key. Its by Jun Maeda, who was a part of Key. But Angel Beats is all him.
 
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Fletchaaa said:
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Looking at KyoAni they don't have that many anime done but they've done some of the best popular ones like Haruhi, K-on, and all of Key's previous work (except Angel Beats)


Again, Angel Beats isn't by Key. Its by Jun Maeda, who was a part of Key. But Angel Beats is all him.
Uh...Totally explains why Angel Beats merchandise is sold under Visual Arts.
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well, let's just stop talking shit about J.C., we just have to wait for the release and then we will have the right to judge it


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[...]Kyoto Animation has been quite busy in producing other titles and Visual Arts could not wait for their turn to come.

What would waiting realistically cost them? Fans have already been waiting for ~ 5 years. Why make it sound so urgent it needs to get made now? Given the choice of waiting or this, what would the majority of fans choose? I may be wrong, but I think fans have been very vocal about their choice since the news came out.

After all the shouting and arm flailing is done though, I think most people are looking forward to this. The news that the original cast is reprising their roles is great. Rita singing new versions of the game's theme songs is also wonderful. The commitment by the original creators to be involved in this is good news. A series composer that knows the source material, and seems dedicated is reassuring. Everything that has been said has been stacked in favor of JC Staff succeeding. Ultimately though, these are just words and promises. JC Staff will have to deliver, and to high expectations.
 
Apr 11, 2012 2:18 PM

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well what a lost
 
Apr 11, 2012 2:29 PM

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So is not a big deal if they can't do LB. Also I would prefer a studio that can dedicate 100% of the time to the series than doing 2 or 3 projects at the same time.

Like J.C. Staff, rite?
 
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first time i'm reading so much excuses for studio before production. j.c staff is good, kyoani is busy, key know how to do stuff... say what? people are overreacting and so the creators.
 
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Creator have to overract because of the people overreaction x)
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Apr 11, 2012 2:56 PM

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This kind of feels like Kanon...

Oh my, look at JC Staff... they've ruined TypeMoon's Shingetsutan Tsukihime! Shame on them! The only ones that are noteworthy of JC were Toradora, Toara, the first season of Shakugan, Kamisama no Memo.

Hayate is also a good anime adaptation, especially the second season. J.C. is a love or hate studio in my opinion.

Dunno what to think, it is a shame Kyoani couldn't adapt Little Busters nor P.A. Works. I wonder what White Fox is doing, in my opinion, after the superb job they did with Steins;Gate and the opening of Rewrite why didn't Key approach them instead of J.C.?
 
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Creator have to overract because of the people overreaction x)

and i can't stand this overreaction. Key announced J.C Staff will do this and that's it. it's not going to change, people know that and still there is shitstorm of complaints. It's like J.C Staff is the worst studio on the earth while it's certainly not. At-least let them do this and if they really ruin your show, then don't buy bd/dvd and tell visual arts about how they make the worst decision ever. Right now these all news topics about LB with hundreds of complain posts look like a joke.
 
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Now this overreaction makes LB look like a joke at this point. Wait until the anime is released, then we'll critique it.


 
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Will continue to be optimistic and have faith!
 
Apr 11, 2012 4:07 PM

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It doesn't seem to me at the moment that KyoAni is terribly busy with anything. In fact, if anything else, I think it's JC Staff that's always busy with stuff; I think most seasons have at least two or three shows that are being animated by JC Staff, no? I won't bash JC Staff yet, but I hope they don't work on too many projects while working on LB; that way, they can use more funds and people.

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
 
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It doesn't seem to me at the moment that KyoAni is terribly busy with anything. In fact, if anything else, I think it's JC Staff that's always busy with stuff; I think most seasons have at least two or three shows that are being animated by JC Staff, no? I won't bash JC Staff yet, but I hope they don't work on too many projects while working on LB; that way, they can use more funds and people.


KyoAni doesn't do more than one show per season, so they're busy if they're doing one show.
 
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I'm actually pretty excited to see what JC does with LB. I don't really mind that KyoAni isn't producing this one.
 
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Now this overreaction makes LB look like a joke at this point. Wait until the anime is released, then we'll critique it.


^This.

At this point it makes LB fans look really bad.
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Baba revealed that the series composer Shimada Michiru had completed the original game including the hidden episode with her daughter. After finishing the game, she checked if she missed something by reading 4.7 MB of the text data of the game scenario.

o-o!

Well, let's hope it'll turn out good.
Also I'm looking forward listening to the OP & ED :D
 
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Now this overreaction makes LB look like a joke at this point. Wait until the anime is released, then we'll critique it.


^This.

At this point it makes LB fans look really bad.


Can't help it though.
For LB! Fans (including me) this is what they really wanted, but to hear that a studio that is infamous for ruining titles is going to animate it, of course they would be on edge.

It's honestly not an overhype, but hope on the edge of the cliff.
It's like you favorite game series is going to have a sequel, but suddenly EA bought the rights and will develop it. LOL
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KyoAni too busy for LB, I understand, but why didn't PA take this instead, drama is their specialty, JC only has a handful of drama successes.


 
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KyoAni too busy for LB, I understand, but why didn't PA take this instead, drama is their specialty, JC only has a handful of drama successes.
Specialty? Good god no. Another was awful and AB was mediocre.
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yay for rita ^^
as long as j.c. staff does a decent job, i won't have any complaints... and by "decent" i mean it better be amazing.
 
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You'd think that animating LB would be a priority for KyoAni, since it would be impossible for the anime to not sell well.
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onomatopellan said:
So is not a big deal if they can't do LB. Also I would prefer a studio that can dedicate 100% of the time to the series than doing 2 or 3 projects at the same time.


How ironic that is precisely what KyoAni is. They have never done more than one show per season. J.C.Staff is known to do three.
 
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KyoAni too busy for LB, I understand, but why didn't PA take this instead, drama is their specialty, JC only has a handful of drama successes.

You assume that PA Works is not also too busy. AFAIK, they also do one series at a time and they already have just as many projects lined up as KyoAni (Hanasaku Iroha 2, Tari Tari).

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You'd think that animating LB would be a priority for KyoAni, since it would be impossible for the anime to not sell well.

Well, if they've already commited to something else, then there's nothing they can do. If they don't think they can do it without it affecting their other projects or meeting whatever project schedule Visual Arts had in mind, then declining to do it is the right move.

And maybe KyoAni thinks what they're already doing would sell even better ;).
 
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wow mr president, then u shouldve waited until Kyoani was FREE to do little busters
 
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KyoAni fans should just realize KyoAni already feels they don't need Key. In case every damnable idiot has short term memory, KyoANi has several shows they basically left in cold storage to work on whatever the fuck they please, leaving their sizable fanbases in the cold. In other words, KyoAni would have never gotten around to do LB, that was why Visual Arts basically said "fuck this". COuld they have chosen a better studio? Sure. Is JC STAFF being the one chosen really enough to start a shitstorm before even one episode is out? Not even close.

I think it's fucking hilarious that it was BECUSE the fanbase was so persistent on the LB adaptation that Visual Arts didn't wait any more. First the fans go "wah wah wah give me LB now" and VA consents. Then they go "wah wah wah why couldn't you wait !" Give me a fucking break.

 
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so in a TL;DR version (i read it though) this means that "Key" or "kyoanime" (i dont even know which is which) was too busy and JC was like "sure i'll do it"?

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KyoAni fans should just realize KyoAni already feels they don't need Key. In case every damnable idiot has short term memory, KyoANi has several shows they basically left in cold storage to work on whatever the fuck they please, leaving their sizable fanbases in the cold. In other words, KyoAni would have never gotten around to do LB, that was why Visual Arts basically said "fuck this". COuld they have chosen a better studio? Sure. Is JC STAFF being the one chosen really enough to start a shitstorm before even one episode is out? Not even close.

I think it's fucking hilarious that it was BECUSE the fanbase was so persistent on the LB adaptation that Visual Arts didn't wait any more. First the fans go "wah wah wah give me LB now" and VA consents. Then they go "wah wah wah why couldn't you wait !" Give me a fucking break.

this is probably one of the best comments i've seen in all the LB threads. i've been following all the threads for this anime too, since my friend introduced this VN to me like a DAY before i found it out it becomes an anime. a few of the regulars have made som interesting points, but the rest just seems like a lot of whining, though...

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It's honestly not an overhype, but hope on the edge of the cliff.
It's like you favorite game series is going to have a sequel, but suddenly EA bought the rights and will develop it. LOL

like how the devil may cry series was gonna get a new game, but than it turned out to be a reboot with a crappy looking dante, ppl were pissed, including me (though not "little busters" pissed)


 
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Meh. I already have low expectations so whatever. Hopefully it'll at least be better than Clannad in the comedy and melodramatic department.
 
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I already reached the point where i dont care anymore, if they do a good job they do a good job, if they do bad we flame them to hell.
 
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Meh. I already have low expectations so whatever. Hopefully it'll at least be better than Clannad in the comedy and melodramatic department.


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I can see why KEY don't want to wait for KyoAni. KyoAni doesn't give a shit about KEY anymore.
 
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Guys really have to take everything into consideration when it comes to this matter. Re-write sales were absolutely DREADFUL when it came to the sales of Kanon, LB, and Clannad. So I am sure Key believe it or not probably needs something to bring in the profits. JC staff is most likely cheap, eager to do anything that exists, and has good marketing. If the anime fails then people will most likely buy the visual novel because people will say "oh its better." If they anime does good then Key still wins and JC staff gets a better rep. Either way lets just assume Key is in a struggle for money and they need quick cash and little busters release was the way to do it.
 
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D'awww, I'm happy for Rita. LB! is one of my favourite songs.
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Damn too much hype about LB who care which anime studio will produce LB anime
 
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Salinga said:
You'd think that animating LB would be a priority for KyoAni, since it would be impossible for the anime to not sell well.

Yeah, even if they couldn't do it immediately, you'd think they'd be crawling to Key and Visual Arts on their hands and knees to get some sort of contract on it. I guess this means that whatever else they've got in the works is BIG, and will sell like hotcakes; at least, that's the only rational explanation I can come up with.
 
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Damn too much hype about LB who care which anime studio will produce LB anime
You think this is bad, imagine if DEEN was going to animate LB
 
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KyoAni fans should just realize KyoAni already feels they don't need Key. In case every damnable idiot has short term memory, KyoANi has several shows they basically left in cold storage to work on whatever the fuck they please, leaving their sizable fanbases in the cold. In other words, KyoAni would have never gotten around to do LB, that was why Visual Arts basically said "fuck this". COuld they have chosen a better studio? Sure. Is JC STAFF being the one chosen really enough to start a shitstorm before even one episode is out? Not even close.

I think it's fucking hilarious that it was BECUSE the fanbase was so persistent on the LB adaptation that Visual Arts didn't wait any more. First the fans go "wah wah wah give me LB now" and VA consents. Then they go "wah wah wah why couldn't you wait !" Give me a fucking break.


I'll be honest Leon, I'm not upset that KyoAni isnt doing it. They are a good studio yes but people seem to forget that any studio can fail. They certainly arent above that and if they lose out on the cash cow that we all know that Little Busters is, then it's their loss. You already know I was hoping for P.A Works to do this but I can imagine it's exactly the same situation there.

I'm kinda meh about J.C Staff doing it as they have had plenty of failings in recent memory. However Toradora from them was animated really well, fantastic characters and story so if it's anything even remotely close to that then I can be pleased with the adaption. Especially if there isnt going to really be any anime original content and it will be true to the Visual Novel. If this is the case, all they have to do is animate it...the story is done already by Visual Arts themselves...so they will have to try really hard to muck it up I reckon.
 
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KyoAni fans should just realize KyoAni already feels they don't need Key. In case every damnable idiot has short term memory, KyoANi has several shows they basically left in cold storage to work on whatever the fuck they please, leaving their sizable fanbases in the cold. In other words, KyoAni would have never gotten around to do LB, that was why Visual Arts basically said "fuck this". COuld they have chosen a better studio? Sure. Is JC STAFF being the one chosen really enough to start a shitstorm before even one episode is out? Not even close.

I think it's fucking hilarious that it was BECUSE the fanbase was so persistent on the LB adaptation that Visual Arts didn't wait any more. First the fans go "wah wah wah give me LB now" and VA consents. Then they go "wah wah wah why couldn't you wait !" Give me a fucking break.


I'll be honest Leon, I'm not upset that KyoAni isnt doing it. They are a good studio yes but people seem to forget that any studio can fail. They certainly arent above that and if they lose out on the cash cow that we all know that Little Busters is, then it's their loss. You already know I was hoping for P.A Works to do this but I can imagine it's exactly the same situation there.

I'm kinda meh about J.C Staff doing it as they have had plenty of failings in recent memory. However Toradora from them was animated really well, fantastic characters and story so if it's anything even remotely close to that then I can be pleased with the adaption. Especially if there isnt going to really be any anime original content and it will be true to the Visual Novel. If this is the case, all they have to do is animate it...the story is done already by Visual Arts themselves...so they will have to try really hard to muck it up I reckon.
Ah don't worry, I wasn't singling out all LB fans for this. Mostly is that I can tell some particular KyoAni devoted amongst the Key fans just can't seem to imagine any other studio doing it. I'm actually surprised PA Works didn't jump at the opportunity considering there's even Angel Beats!/Little Busters! crossover merchandise.

 
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Uh-huh. Wow, that was fast.
 
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Finally downloaded VN again...

Forgot how much fun it is :P
 
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