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Oct 24, 2009 5:36 AM

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since I love C.C. I really do NOT agree with suzaku. but he is good for Euphie, so maybe he is not fully rotten.
Oct 25, 2009 11:43 AM

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I don't like him. I don't like good guys with perfect personalities. However I don't hate him. I like the relationship between him and Lelouch. Friendship, hate, same goals, tears in the end...
Oct 29, 2009 4:00 AM

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YES!(he needs to die!!)
Oct 31, 2009 8:18 PM

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He's not that bad, just way too idealistic. I can see why he acts the way he does and respect him for his philosophies, but sometimes you can't live according to "what you want." Wake up and look at what's happening around you! Look at the people who you work under! Sometimes to get the change that you're looking for, you have to do things that you either regret or go against what you think. Suzaku didn't understand this until much, much later, and while he redeemed himself starting halfway into R2 and quite a lot at the end, it was just too little too late at that point in time.


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Nov 3, 2009 12:41 AM

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I don't know that I hate him or not. Maybe T.T
First I liked Spinzaku until end of 1st season, I hated him in the 2nd season, since he joined Lulu, I liked him again, but then I hated him again. Dunno. That's confused.
Nov 3, 2009 11:52 AM

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Well after he did a "Rolo" in season 2, I am kind neutral now. He was a bit annoying with his ideology in season 1. But in season 2 when he went a bit crazy and then sided with lelouch. My views of him balance out since he became less annoying to watch and a little fun to see what he would do next.
Nov 4, 2009 3:28 PM

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no diss to suzaku lovers but i dont like the guy! and everyone puts him together with nunnally which i dislike EMENSLY!

but he is a alright guy just somewhat annoys me =)

Nov 6, 2009 11:00 PM

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I was carrying the "I hate Suzaku" banner. I didn't mind him so much when he was acting his age. But when he was with the military, I just wanted to smack him. I disagreed with his methods of changing the world but I was happy every time he and Lelouch worked together.


Ahh, dude, I agree with all what have you said, except the banner with " I hate Suzaku " =]] I still don`t have it, lol.
Anyway, he`s kinda annoying for me...

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Nov 9, 2009 4:31 PM
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Got from awesome to ass hole then got back up to awesome... pretty much neutral about it i guess.
Nov 9, 2009 7:11 PM

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In the very beginning, I like Suzaku. He wanted to help Lelouch, but til the end of the 1st season, I hated him. and from there on it was rolling down hill. But he redeemed himself towards the middle of the second season, but as soon as I saw him kill Lelouch, even though it was all part of the plan, I was like 'OKAY THAT'S IT!!! WHERE'S THE SHOTGUN? I"M GOING TO KILL SPINZAKU!"

so over all I hate Spinzaku. And I also agree, he's a hypocrite. "I'll save people by killing them" seriously? wtf.


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Nov 18, 2009 3:12 AM
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KayChan4U said:
Lelouch was trying to save Japan in general from Britannia because of what they did in the war.
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Nah... he is oke. He always chooses what's best for him and for the rest. He never tries to lie or cheats.


o_O You're kidding right? He's SO lied before! And quite possibly cheated. His 'live on' Geass is a cheat all on its own<< He's done so many unacceptable things. He tried using Nunally against Lelouch, who he sold out, and punched Kallen..and so many awful things other than just those.

Not to mention he was bad mouthing Gino a couple times [& I don't even like Gino, but that wasn't nice], and tried to kill Charles and Knight of One JUST for the sake of him becoming Knight of One himself and to make Schneizel Emperor.

Seriously. That was sick. It was a big power trip for him the whole time.


Do you realize what Lelouche is doing? As a Knight(same as a policeman in our world), Suzaku should punish Lelouche. If someone doesn't obey the laws, he should be punished. That is what suzaku was trying to do....


Lelouch was trying to save Japan in general from Britannia because of what they did in the war. Suzaku says he doesn't want to fight, yet he's fighting and killing people, totally contradicting his morals.
Lelouch COULD have done something much dirtier, as in, force Suzaku to join him. Though he didnt. As apposed to all the things Suzaku did to him. & I highly doubt using Lelouch's family against him counts as 'punishment'. Remember that Lelouch WAS banished from the empire and such, so he should rightfully get the thrown now after what he's been through.



kaychan4U is completlty right, in all of the anime i have seen,

suzaku is one of my most hated.

and for the same reasons kaychan4U said aswell. even in the end, moraly and rightously, suzaku was wrong and i believe lelouch was the one and only patriot of the entire thing.

thats my view.
Nov 29, 2009 10:53 PM

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I like him, so no, I don't hate him. :D
Dec 2, 2009 9:41 AM

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The two make a complete duo
they both have faults

Eqauly they both stand out to me.
Suzaku was in the way most of the time, he lied,cheated all the other stuff. But if he didn't then I suppose the characters wouldn't be the same.

What's Lelouch without Suzaku?
Dec 2, 2009 5:42 PM

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I like Suzaku.
Dec 4, 2009 12:38 AM

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Suzaku is the most important character in the whole anime, remember that JAPAN it's his own country not Britania like lelouch, so the one who would be able to be in the place of Zero is Suzaku, but anyway he try to change Britania from inside without wars, i love the moment when he
!! ALL HAIL SUZAKU !!!
Dec 10, 2009 10:05 AM

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First he was okay.
THEN he said he joined the army to save people, and i lol`d at Earl.
THEN he became a douch at the end of S1.
Became douchier at the beginning of R2.
And now i think he sunk to the level of sasuke.
Dec 12, 2009 9:58 AM

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Oh my gosh~
I could never bring myself to hate Suzaku~
I love him <3
He's one of my favorite characters.
Dec 17, 2009 1:33 AM

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yep i wish he died in season 1 already
Dec 21, 2009 3:40 AM

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Had to pick 'other' for the simple reason Suzaku is one of my favourite characters [maybe even my fave!] from Code Geass XD never hated him and never will :P

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Jan 25, 2010 1:25 PM

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I could never stand Suzaku. He is such a jerk. He seems so dumb and clueless which really annoys me. And I always hated it whenever his stupid Lancelot got in Zero's way. And the worst part is that when Lelouch tried to apologize to him, he stepped on his head! Unforgivable! DX
Feb 3, 2010 5:43 PM
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other,i dont hate him, i even like him more than lelouch, plus why would i hate the character who gave the story more spice? :D
Feb 3, 2010 5:53 PM

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Suzaku was my favorite.
Feb 11, 2010 10:59 PM

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Suzaku is only human. The guy was an idealist who had the naive belief that everyone could be saved. While his battle experiences made him realise bit by bit that he was wrong, Euphemia screwed it up with her overtly optimistic nature further manipulated by Schneizel (Who supported her peace plans so that it would bring about the fall of Black Knights). Then Euphemia's death made him want to kill Lelouch, thus making him give up on the "save everyone" agenda. But he made the wrong choice of alliances by joining up with the Emperor. The "FLIEJA" incident made him realize that the war will not end without sacrifices. He hates the Emperor for treating peoples lives as if they have no value & tries to kill him for which he was willing to support Schneizel. On meeting up with Lelouch & finding out the desire of humanity, he & Lelouch come up with a plan to end this war & bring peace. The "Zero Requiem" was both the solution to save the World & act as their atonement. Thus, by the end of the series both he & Lelouch had matured & corrected their flaws.

So though he pissed me of at the beginning, I did feel bad for the guy in the end of the series. But I do wish he would have realized sooner.
Feb 13, 2010 2:46 AM

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i dont hate him but he gave me nightmares
Feb 14, 2010 10:41 AM
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I really did not have anything against him at first, but then I started to really hate him and I have hated him like all through second season but in the end when he's on Lelouch side (at last...) I liked him a tiny bit more, but I still hate him....

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Mar 17, 2010 8:28 PM

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I loooooved Suzaku, but the way hes acting in R2 is making me soooo sad!!!!(I havent quite finished R2 yet)
Mar 18, 2010 1:44 PM

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How could I hate my favorite character from the series?

I didn't care which side he was on, his standpoint always had a true sense of justice, despite his anger against his father and Lelouch.
Apr 11, 2010 12:04 PM

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annoying to begin with but he got better
May 12, 2010 8:41 AM

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Never Hated him, nor liked him. anyway hes a little bit cool :D
May 15, 2010 11:37 AM

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I always hated Suzaku. Just when Lelouch almost got the victory many times, that idiot appeared and ruined the day for save some britannians. I think that the fate he got at the end was the best for him, the best punishment for that *insert word*
Oct 1, 2010 10:10 AM

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Never really cared that much about him...



Nov 1, 2010 9:49 AM
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I don't hate him, I really like him and think his methods are right.
Feb 4, 2011 4:00 PM

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I hope a big fat peace symbol falls on his head and kills him. <<<< I hate him :P
Mar 13, 2011 5:42 AM

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He is my number one in both season 1 and 2
Nina, Ouigi Kaname and V.V comes after Suzaku. But still Suzaku is the number one annoying person in the series for me.
Mar 26, 2011 1:26 PM

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He's ok...
But the one big flaw he has is that he's Lelouch's ENEMY!!!!
I am always and forever going to be on Lelouch's side.
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I freaking hate Suzauku. Backstabber, liar, block-headed, stupid (BAKKAAA), stubborn, unwilling to listen, and so many more things.
He should be GRATEFUL he had Lelou in his life otherwise he would've just sat there and serve in that stupid army of his and do nothing to create the peace he wanted in the world. Lelou does all that work and then he calls him a demon. Srsly?

In the end, he gets a happy ending. Are you freaking happy, Suza? You living happily, smiling, and at east because everything in the world is more peaceful since now everyone spits their hate on Lelou who sacrificed himself for this? You happy?

He sure didn't seem grateful. freak.
And I was waiting for some SuzakuxLelouch action. How stupid of me. rofl xD
Jul 11, 2011 8:09 PM
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I liked him at first...then i hated him when he betrayed Lelouch....then i am alright with him...kinda but he still killed lelouch
Sep 9, 2011 2:25 PM

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I hated him all throughout the series until, like, the last three episodes.
Oct 30, 2011 3:00 PM
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Suzaku must DIE !!! :
Nov 1, 2011 6:36 PM

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Always hated him. Even more so during season 2 :x Assholes stay assholes. Even till the end, right Suzu?
i totaly agree no matter what he does i still hate him }:3
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I freaking hate Suzauku. Backstabber, liar, block-headed, stupid (BAKKAAA), stubborn, unwilling to listen, and so many more things.
He should be GRATEFUL he had Lelou in his life otherwise he would've just sat there and serve in that stupid army of his and do nothing to create the peace he wanted in the world. Lelou does all that work and then he calls him a demon. Srsly?

In the end, he gets a happy ending. Are you freaking happy, Suza? You living happily, smiling, and at east because everything in the world is more peaceful since now everyone spits their hate on Lelou who sacrificed himself for this? You happy?

He sure didn't seem grateful. freak.
And I was waiting for some SuzakuxLelouch action. How stupid of me. rofl xD
exactly, i feel like giving you a big hug! :3
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Nov 9, 2011 12:14 PM

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He's really cool and he's my favourite CG charater.
He can't die!
Dec 9, 2011 4:36 AM

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Nah Suzaku is cool ^^ (Ryu:ilikesumpoundcake)
Dec 9, 2011 6:00 PM

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Well yea i gotta admit, I live Spinzaku, although not as much as Lelouch. Loved seeing him working with Lelouch at the end of R2 :3
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Jan 2, 2012 2:04 PM

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i like Suzaku, he's pretty cool :3
Jan 16, 2012 3:24 PM
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maybe I hate him or not
i dont know
because the way he used to gaining peace is so stupid
Feb 2, 2012 1:44 PM
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Too much of an idiot to fit in CG universe. Retarded ideology, keeps changing views, constantly screws up Lelouch's plans only by overkill and luck.. only to join up with him in the end.

"Oops, I was wrong, sorry. Let's forget bout those 30 mil people I killed, k?"

Suzaku is not a charcter, he is a TROLL! An expert troll at that.

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Neizaru said:
Too much of an idiot to fit in CG universe. Retarded ideology, keeps changing views, constantly screws up Lelouch's plans only by overkill and luck.. only to join up with him in the end.

"Oops, I was wrong, sorry. Let's forget bout those 30 mil people I killed, k?"

Suzaku is not a charcter, he is a TROLL! An expert troll at that.


Now this is completely wrong on almost every single level...

First, lets talk about his "retarded ideology." Now, why would it be considered "idiotic" to have compassion, especially on the battlefield? The only reason he preached his "ends don't justify the means" in the series was because he knows that, from past experiences he committed, do not always work. This resulted in him punishing himself by working for the country that destroyed his. It is called taking responsibility for his actions. He saw that since he wanted the war to end by killing his father, he wanted to at least finish what he started and kept going down this path, even if he ended up ostracized from both Britannians and Japanese alike, because he felt that is what he had to do. This is not much of a character flaw in my view.

As for changing views, this has only happened twice through the series. The first time was after Euphemia pretty much died in his arms and he found out his best friend was pretty much behind everything that happened up to this point. He went on a complete tear fueled only by anger and vengeance. This hardened him a lot more when we saw him again in the second season, however, his methods were still very much like they were before for the most part overall. Just made him a little more emotionally dead. It also ruined Suzaku's chances at truly recovering emotionally. The final change came after he accidentally fired the FLEIJA warhead in the Tokyo Settlement, which finally broke him, and it all ended with him working with Lelouch through a fusion of BOTH their ideals we came to know through the series.

And it was never luck that ruined Lelouch's plans. Suzaku was usually an unpredictable element he couldn't quite counter, especially early in the series. Lelouch may be a genius at strategy, but Suzaku is a genius on the battlefield to the point where strategy does not always matter. Why do you think them working together ALWAYS resulted in complete and utter domination of the opposition?

As for this silly comment:
"Oops, I was wrong, sorry. Let's forget bout those 30 mil people I killed, k?"

Suzaku had no control over this. He was under control of Lelouch's "LIVE!" Geass. So, really, those 25 million people should be on Lelouch's hands, even though Suzaku took all those deaths on his shoulders any way. So that comment is not even an opinion, just factually wrong.

Now, as for the topic at hand. I can't hate Suzaku, he is my favorite character in the series. He is easier to relate to, and his ideology is not only insanely more difficult to uphold than Lelouch's, but much more honorable as well. Just like Lelouch, life dealt him a horrific hand that he really did not deserve. He went about it in his own way. So it differed from Lelouch's. So what? That should not be a knock on a character. If anything, it makes things much more interesting that these two friends that trusted each other are now on opposing sides. Not only that, it made the culmination of them finally working together to take on the burdens of everyone's hate upon the self resulting in two deaths. Suzaku may not have physically or technically died, but, really, his fate is even worse than death. He is stuck as a symbol of hope and justice for the rest of his days, no longer with a face.

I could go on forever on Suzaku's personality, mind set, and development, but it will take too long. XD So, yeah, I like the character a lot, and that is that. lol
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Now this is completely wrong on almost every single level...

Nah, it's quite correct. And I'll even prove it!

First, lets talk about his "retarded ideology

In summary:
1) affecting fate of huge empire as a single insignificant cog (trooper)
2) a humongous, thouroughly rotten empire can be changed without violence, against it's psychopatic rulers will

..DUUURR!!

If Suzaku weren't a main char he'd be dead fiften times an episode.

The only reason he preached his "ends don't justify the means"

Like all ideologies it's pretty vague, thus pointless to discuss without a context.
HOWEVER our zombie-ninja-cyborg believes that mass repressions and systematic destruction of 1/3 of the world is better than independent government. Arguable issue, and that's a pretty one sided and self-centered claim.

he wanted to at least finish what he started and kept going down this path, even if he ended up ostracized from both Britannians and Japanese alike,

Nope. As he stated HIMSELF in R2, he was just selfish and trying to erase his guilt with a heroic kamikaze. Fact he eventually joined with L is his only redeeming point.

As for changing views, this has only happened twice through the series.

Only? For a 180 degree shift in a path that resulted in plenty of dead that's quite a lot.

a fusion of BOTH their ideals

You mean L's final plan? Clever ruse combined with a sucide? Suzaku seppuku tendencies finally taking effect on L, a fusion of ideals indeed xD. Personally I'd prefer he just got over it, but YMMV.

And it was never luck that ruined Lelouch's plans

1) battle in the getto - superadvanced prototype smashes L troops
2) battle in narita - superadvanced prototype smashes L troops
3) battle in the harbor - superadvanced prototype smashes L troops
4) battle to rescue Tohdoh - recently upgraded super prototype holds ground against four same mecha types .
5) battle in Kyushu - superadvanced prototype smashes chinese army - and than unexpectedly gets rescued by L
6) 1st Tokyo battle - flying upgraded superadvanced prototype smashes L troops

So an upper hand thanks to recent advances in technology. How lucky for him. In those technologically even fights he gets his ass kicked and barely survives.
Overkill + luck? Very much.

Suzaku had no control over this

Chigau! It's his tendencies that caused him to be geassed like that in the first place. Karmarific!
Also previous insubordinations were a hint, but just ingored that and try to kill himself as usual.
And his response to genocide? Another betrayal, another suicide attempt and "it's the geass fault".
Oh, for the love of world of C!

Summarising, half-baked-half-crazy idealism doesn't fit the CG universe. At all. This isn't your average generic anime, shounen action types are a misfit.
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Suzaku is so awesome I love him and Lelouch in Yaoi Doujinshis so fascinating!
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