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Poll: NHK ni Youkoso! Episode 16 Discussion

Sep 22, 2011 4:54 PM

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The FFXI MMORPG arc is the part of NHK I can relate to the best.

When you're a loser with no friends, no lover and no future, it's easy to lose yourself in virtual reality. Unlike in the land of the real, you can be somebody worth knowing with much greater ease, and cat girls waltzing around makes it surprisngly easy to chase after tail and forget real females. The problem is, eventually - if you're in a similar situation to Satou - you end up totally distanced from reality and in 'love' with a cat girl who's really guy, having a laugh at your expense. Reality hits home far too late, and it hurts when it does finally strike.

The lesson here is simple: if you have too much free time, hate yourself/life and become obsessed easily, STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM MMORPGS! As funny as NHK's depiction was, it was so funny because it's so true--like NHK's humour in general. The 50-year-old image of Satou was disturbing more than just because fat people look disgusting.

Yamazaki showed tough love to Satou by having him learn the truth about cat girls early. My respect for Yamazaki went through the roof when re-watching the series because of moments like the laptop reveal. He was a true friend.
Oct 15, 2011 5:11 PM

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Wow, that was really good episode. I was cheering when he thought he found his friends and stuff ... that dragon slaying was pretty epic though. Ah, wow, Yamazaki was Mia ... dun dun dun! True what he says though, anyone could be anyone :P
The part with "30 years later" ... that was hard to watch X_X So very true and sad though ... thank you, Yamazaki, for preventing that from happening to Satou D;
Hmm, wonder about the class president though? I wonder what she's got in store for him ... o_O
Lol how the heck does Misaki still fit into her junior high uniform? That's like grade 9! XD ... Although I guess it IS possible ... o_O
Feb 6, 2012 1:53 AM

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And that's where you get "there are no such thing as woman on the internet".
Mar 18, 2012 8:21 PM
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Wow. That scared me and it was painful to watch.
I need to go jogging xDDD

Apr 11, 2012 9:19 PM

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Apr 18, 2012 5:29 AM
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I am glad i dont play MMO's like WOW
May 7, 2012 9:42 AM

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Oh, Yamazaki, too awesome, although it kind of hurts to know he did that for his own selfish purposes (to finish his game) rather than to genuinely help Satou out.
SpudUK said:
I really didn't like the way they set this out. It gives people the impression that they WILL end up like Satou did if they play it, which is extremely incorrect. As long as you take it in moderation, it can be extremely fun and still give you your personal life. The styling that this did of online gaming annoyed me.

The parody itself though wasn't bad.

You'd be surprised how many people fall through the gaps. As many have already pointed out, this episode was sort of depressing, especially if you're experienced what Satou has gone through or know someone who has.
Modified by AzureBlues, May 7, 2012 9:52 AM
Jun 28, 2012 9:37 AM

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Yamazaki haha you got him good!
satou ,..YOU WERE DOING SO GOOD! and you just got worse
Jul 14, 2012 1:51 PM

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That was so funny, Yamazaki owned him hard and when he was thinking about himself in 30 years I laughed like a bitch. ^^
I'm looking forward to more.
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Sep 30, 2012 12:07 PM

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Yamazaki is the best troll eva!
Oct 27, 2012 7:11 AM

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I was expecting Mia to be a guy IRL but I actually managed to not think of Yamazaki.
But the real highlight of this episode: Misaki-chan Nyan Nyan! I laughed so hard when she was giving life lessons and she only said "nyan"
Nov 12, 2012 1:19 PM

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Hahaha, so funny when he finally realized it was Yamazaki! Also an introduction to a new or well old but new character? Interesting, he's off to meet her perhaps?

Ending was quite nice!
Nov 13, 2012 2:20 PM

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Haha, now that's the reaction I've been waiting for. However sad it may have been, it was still priceless.
Misaki was pretty cute trying to help in her own way :D Too bad it was Yamazaki who got him out :/

I hope this new girl won't suck like Hitomi. I really wish it was just Satou and Misaki (+ Yamazaki).
Nov 22, 2012 10:41 PM
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Yamazaki is cool))) Thanks to him Satou is still a human! Ank thanks God I'm not playing online games!
Apr 27, 2013 11:35 PM

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that Satou bastard, if he is me, I would have really grateful having Misaki-chan in my side ... ><
Jun 15, 2013 12:30 AM

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ah this guy -_- this episode is kind of funny but stupid XD
look at sato face when he know if that girl from the game is yamazaki XD so stupid lol XD

ahh in the end finally I can see misaki in moe moe :3 kind like of maid uniform :333

btw sato is out? to his high school friend? hmm it is getting interesting :3
Jul 21, 2013 3:47 AM

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gatotsu911 said:
Oh, Yamazaki, you lovable, treacherous devil, you. The worst part is I've done almost-as-stupid things online. (Not gold farming, but attempts at online relationships.)

Aside from that, though, the writing seems to be starting to weaken a bit. Misaki's "logic" is ridiculous even for her, and the introduction of a new character at this point - one who's also unconditionally interested in Sato, no less - seems abrupt and unnecessary. In fact, this Megumi seems all too much like a replacement for Hitomi now that her subplot has been resolved. I really want to love this show, but it just seems to be plodding along, trying to pad out its length by adding more random crap and avoiding any sort of serious, conclusive plot points - not to mention the wildly inconsistent animation quality. I'm really getting the feeling that this would have been better off at 12 or 13 episodes.

Wow I feel the exact same way. I want to love this show so badly but ugh all these blatant problems are really preventing me from doing so. I'm especially angry at the inconsistent animation. Dear god, even if the production value is low at least make it consistent. I mean I can watch things from the 80s no problem if it's consistent but that episode when Sato and Yamazaki were going around town getting merchandise (maybe episode 4-ish) that made me want to gouge my eyes out.

It really is a shame though because the whole idea of the show had and still has, to a degree, a great deal of potential. I'll probably check out the manga soon. I blame Gonzo for my anger.
Jul 27, 2013 7:07 AM
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I fucking knew it was yamazaki ahahah.
Aug 21, 2013 2:43 PM
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Loool i couldn't help my self but laugh at this episode. The reason is so stupid. I just couldn't hold it back, even when he started crying i was just laughing my ass off
Aug 30, 2013 4:15 PM

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Misaki was so adorable this episode. I couldn't stop laughing, this was pure gold. Yamazaki used this whole thing as an excuse to get Sato back to working on the gal-ge, LOL.
Nov 23, 2013 4:46 PM

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Oh hell, this episode was very strong. Maybe I'm just repeating what lots of you have already said, but: thanks God I don't play any MMORPG. And no, that's not just a fictional thing... people really reach that horrible level!

Aside from that, as lots of you have already said (again!?), I thought Mia was a guy, but not that she was Yamazaki. He's an epic character, but more than anything else, he's a friend, because he dedicated a great amount of time just to teach Sato the hard lesson. And I don't care about Sato's situation, I'm just hating him because he's not able to see the great friends he has. He could have lots of friends experiences with Yamazaki, and damn, Misaki is trying to help him IN EVERY DAMN WAY.

You can think everything is bad and blah blah stuff, but Misaki is actually doing everything on order to save you. I'm reaching the top of the thing; you CAN'T ignore a girl who already saved you a bunch of times (damn, she saved his life in the previous episodes, THAT should be the real twist, not a MMORPG), and who declared you to be the one who was looking for, and is still trying everything.

From this point of view, the thing has got a bit unrealistic. The MMORPG thing itself is obviously realistic, but Sato totally ignoring the interactions he previously had with Misaki and Yamazaki isn't. I seriously hope things are going to change VERY fast, without a group of just-situations that happen because... because.

(and hey. A gentle girl is dressing as a cat for you. GET UP FROM THAT DAMN CHAIR AND DO SOMETHING SDKJHFSDKJSDFK)
Jan 10, 2014 1:58 PM

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I don't know if Yamazaki did the right thing to help him. But he sure have served him a good dose of reality!

I laughed at Misaki imagination xD
It was kinda sad when he rejected her though.

I wonder what will happen with that president. What will she make him do? A rehab session? Will he join a sect?? :P
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Mar 2, 2014 6:54 AM

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GIRL: Guy In Real Life lol, geez man Satou doesn't deserve Misaki. That's the only thing bothering me with this story. How unrealistic it is that a gorgeous girl wants to save him and keeps trying despite all that's happened. I hope Satou's karma gets back at him hard.
Mar 9, 2014 8:25 PM

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LMFAO Yamazaki the funniest troll, that trolling is on the level of Chael P. Sonnen
Mar 27, 2014 2:06 PM

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LOL that was really cute xD
Way to go Misaki

Satou really needs to learn xD

LOL Yamazaki is so awesome
The future Satou was so well done xD
Bit harsh but... Yamazaki is a really nice friend :o
Hope he learns from this sooner rather than later :O
Modified by duderus, Mar 27, 2014 2:28 PM

Mar 29, 2014 8:02 AM

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Wow what an amazing episode. I was worried for the show for a while, but the revelation that Yamazaki was the online girl is hilarious. People genderbend all the time in MMORPGs. I know I have before, if only to avoid the numerous "slut" and "i'll rape you" comments if you're a girl who beats a male character. Sato needed the reality check badly.
Apr 13, 2014 5:53 PM

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Well, Misaki might have the worst reasons to like him but a woman who still accepts you after all that and what she's seen from you is definitely a women to keep.

P.S: Yamazaki is a fckin troll. XD

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May 9, 2014 2:31 AM

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That was hilarious. I figured Mia would be a guy, but Yamazaki....that was awesome. He got Sato good there. I wonder what this new women is going to bring to the series.
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May 31, 2014 10:07 PM

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man he got tr0lled hard. deserved it though.
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Aug 3, 2014 5:45 AM

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Nya-nya-nyaa... that was really cute.
I didn't know Misaki can speak cat language.
Poor Satou got trolled so hard.. Yamazaki you're a real devil. XD
Aug 11, 2014 8:53 AM

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Great Episode! Misaki was so adorable :)
Aug 19, 2014 10:41 PM
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Thus Yamazaki puts an end to Sato's gaming lol

Sep 2, 2014 3:15 AM
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Yamazaki is the best budy, any people can get.
Sep 6, 2014 4:05 PM
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Misakis neko cosplay was something to die for xD <3
Lol i knew Mia was trap. I was expecting this.
But maaan, yamazaki. That was mean :<
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Sep 15, 2014 3:37 AM

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lol fucking knew it was a dude wasn't expecting it to be he crazy neighbor
poor Misaki she tried so hard I feel a little bad for her
was enjoying the hell out of the Romance there was but it seems almost dead now T-T
Oct 26, 2014 5:28 PM

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Why does Satou pick all the looted items?
LMFAO, dat Yamazaki troll.
Nov 16, 2014 1:25 AM

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Yamazaki's really an expert to facade as the exact type of girl Satou would like. The use of reverse psychology against Satou was a tad bit too effective though. How cute to see Misaki-chan going to the extreme for Satou.
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Dec 30, 2014 12:34 AM

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oh my fkn goodness lmfao. This episode so much made for all of the comedy being pushed up for the intense drama the last few episodes. I'm so dead. Satou cussing out Misaki was gold. Yamazaki's troll was gold. Everything was gold. Best part is NHK retained its social commentary and satire of real world things in the process. NHK's humor is very elaborate.

It's funny how Satou has people around him who genuinely care for him and doesn't realize. While Satou was no-lifing ULTIMATE FANTASY for God knows how long, Yamazaki was right there with him, playing the entire time, just to try to teach him a lesson. How many friends would do that for you? Well, I'm not sure if Yamazaki actually did him any favors lmfao. And Misaki is clearly going far out of her comfort zone for him, too... even though she's pretty fucked up herself it seems.

vytah said:
Satou attacking Yamazaki with a chair reminded me of this guy:
Piotrek's mother was affraid and she turned his computer off. She killed his game charcter so Piotrek get really angry. He started hit her with wooden chair.

And for anyone interested in RMT:
Dominik B. said: Young person visited us every day for 2 years. He sit in front of computer 10h+ and finally he sold his character for 2700 PLN.

(2700PLN = €650 = $950 at today's exchange rate)

Tibia was once a very popular topic in Polish media, but I think it became less popular recently. I'm proud to say I quitted playing it after whole 20 minutes, and never tried anything like that again.

What game are these reports for, I wonder? It probably depends a lot on the popularity of the game. I had a friend who invested FAAAAAAR less time and still sold his WoW character for almost 1K. RMT is real, just probably not effective.

Remember, guys, there ain't nothing wrong with MMORPGs. Just don't be obsessed. It's like that with anything; no need to demonize a medium because it can be addictive, because anime is just as addictive for many of you people.

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Feb 1, 2015 11:15 PM

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I was always scared to touch MMOs.
Feb 13, 2015 3:52 AM

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Dang that Yamazaki, he's a smart guy, and that was a nice approach.
Mizaki should clean his apartment. It's hard to look at that mess. o_O
Feb 16, 2015 5:42 PM

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Giant troll Yamazaki... I'm impressed.
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Mar 22, 2015 7:46 AM

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this episode is so freaking real!!
i kinda understand what is the meaning behind the name of this anime. honestly, a meaningful name
May 29, 2015 7:53 PM

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This episode was the saddest to me. It really hit home. I play a lot of mmo. Thankfully I'm not addicted to it, but because I have Asperger's and have a fear of socialization, sometimes I wish I could just stay inside and play video games all day. So I really felt for Satou in this one.
Jul 5, 2015 8:44 PM

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I KNEW it. I knew it was Yamizaki. He's the ultimate fuckboy. On another note, who doesn't want to live in an MMO? Everyone went through it when they were kids lol for me it was Flyff and later LOTRO. Now that I think about it I still play a lotta MMOs T.T
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Jul 6, 2015 12:42 PM

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SA10 got rekt lol, and poor misaki, shes trying so hard with no success
Jul 21, 2015 9:10 AM

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Oh okay, I didn't expect Yamazki to be that catgirl, I thought it would be some unknown man.
Oct 25, 2015 3:36 AM

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Oh damn, this episode was so harsh.
Nov 19, 2015 5:03 PM

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Love triangle has lost a vertex, it is now back to just Satou and Misaki

From the preview that played last episode, I thought Misaki would begin playing the game to get Satou back from Mia with an avatar wearing the apron.

At first I thought the little green haired dude was the kid from whom Satou learned the game from. So it is the brother of one of his classmates that dyed her we know who the last main character is; Satou, Misaki, Yamazaki, his senpai and now class rep Kobayashi. Are we back to a love triangle?
Nov 21, 2015 2:05 AM

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I knew it was going to be a guy but I didn't expect it to be Yamazaki.
Nov 22, 2015 11:36 AM

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The scene wyere they were fighting the monsters based on Kappa from Japanese folklore reminded me of defeating a swarm all at once in Gen 6 Pokémon games.
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