What Do You THINK?
Trayvon Attacked Zimmerman
18.8%
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Zimmerman Attacked Trayvon
12.8%
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Trayvon was defending his self because he was being followed
10.7%
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Zimmerman shouldn't have followed Trayvon at all
36.2%
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I dont know....
21.5%
32
149 votes
| Hey Guys i have not seen this on here yet so here we go The shooting of Trayvon Martin took place on February 26, 2012, in Sanford, Florida. Trayvon Martin was a 17-year-old African American who was shot and killed by 28-year-old George Zimmerman, a man of mixed ethnic descent (Peruvian and white American). Martin was unarmed, walking from a convenience store to the home of his father's girlfriend when Zimmerman, a community watch captain, began following Martin and called the Sanford Police Department to say he witnessed suspicious behavior. Soon afterward, there was a physical altercation which ended when Zimmerman fatally shot Martin. Zimmerman described the shooting to the police who arrived on the scene as self-defense. Responding officers handcuffed Zimmerman and took him into custody but they did not formally arrest him, saying that they did not find evidence to contradict his assertion of self-defense.However, the lead homicide investigator was not convinced by Zimmerman's account and wanted to charge him with manslaughter, but the state attorney's office said there was insufficient evidence for a conviction. Both Martin and Zimmerman made phone calls during the incident, some of which were recorded. The circumstances around Martin's death received national and international attention, particularly regarding Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law and allegations of racial motivations and police misconduct, triggering multiple investigations and public demands for Zimmerman's arrest. Many people, from civil rights leaders to public officials – including Reverend Al Sharpton, President Barack Obama, Jesse Jackson, and Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi – have made public comments or released statements about the shooting. Critics have called Zimmerman a racist vigilante who initiated a conflict with Trayvon largely because of a profile: A black man wearing a hoodie walking through a gated neighborhood. If the FBI finds evidence of this, Zimmerman could be charged with a federal hate crime. A separate state investigation is slated to probe whether the state's Stand Your Ground law, the justification for not charging Zimmerman, was applied properly amid new evidence that suggests Zimmerman followed Trayvon and initiated an altercation where Trayvon got the upper hand. Zimmerman's comments on a 911 tape from the night of the shooting that “These [expletive] always get away,” and speculation about whether he uttered a racial slur before following Trayvon on foot support the idea that Zimmerman's frustration with a crime wave in the Retreat at Twin Lakes had boiled over into vigilantism. Zimmerman has contended that he was on his way back to his SUV after following Trayvon when he was attacked. Police found Zimmerman with a bloody nose and blood on the back of his head. His lawyer says Zimmerman's nose was broken. At the very least, a series of 46 emergency calls made by Zimmerman over the past six years document a man vigilant about keeping his neighborhood safe and orderly. The calls include complaints about unruly people at the pool, potholes, dumped trash, and kids playing in the street. In recent months, as the neighborhood saw an uptick in crime, including burglaries and a shooting, Zimmerman's calls had focused on specific suspects, the majority of them young black men. ----Audio Tapes |
NiqhtmarezMar 29, 2012 2:24 PM
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| As informative as this might be, I doubt its very clever or in any way appropriate to discuss this kind of topic on a forum (especially making a poll out of it). Since noone of us was present at the time or knows any more than what goes around in the media, its unlikely that some sort of discussion will arise from this, just people saying their opinion and calling people with other opinion stupid. |
| The only thing that anyone can say is that we don't know, and we won't be able to know. The only person we can really believe is Zimmerman. The only other person who knows what happened is dead. I feel bad for his family, but I'm not about to get sucked into picking sides like the media wants us to. Was it a hate crime? I don't know. Was it self defense? I don't know. And neither do any of you. |
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SwordMeister said: I never knew walking out of a convenient store would cause people to think of suspicious behavior. Maybe I should think that every time I see someone walk out of one lol... And he was wearing a hoodie. AND EVERYONE KNOWS HOODIES ARE SUSPICIOUS. |
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ycart59 said: SwordMeister said: I never knew walking out of a convenient store would cause people to think of suspicious behavior. Maybe I should think that every time I see someone walk out of one lol... And he was wearing a hoodie. AND EVERYONE KNOWS HOODIES ARE SUSPICIOUS. Hoodies are dangerous. You can hide a gun in there. |
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| Zimmerman clearly broke the stand your ground law, as shown by the evidence available since Trayvon Martin was not malicious or threatening in any way. Additionally, Zimmerman violated what the police said directly. His CCW should have been suspended at the least, and charges against him should have been filed. |
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Zatoichi said: ycart59 said: SwordMeister said: I never knew walking out of a convenient store would cause people to think of suspicious behavior. Maybe I should think that every time I see someone walk out of one lol... And he was wearing a hoodie. AND EVERYONE KNOWS HOODIES ARE SUSPICIOUS. Hoodies are dangerous. You can hide a gun in there. Maybe I shouldn't wear pants anymore. XD |
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| I don't know. There are two possiblities. One possibility is that Zimmerman ignored the 911 operators advice and continued following a suspicious individual,asked what he was doing and as a result was attacked by this suspicious individual and had to use lethal force to defend himself. If this is true ZImmerman had every right to shoot his attacker. The stand your ground law allows you use lethal force to kill someone who starts attacking you instead of fleeing form that attacker. The other possibilty is that Zimmerman ignored the 911 followed Martin . Then he started asssaulting martin,Martin fought back,Zimmerman was lossing and shot Martin.If this is the case then Zimmerman had no right to shoot Martin. The stand your ground law does not allow you to physically start attacking someone and then use lethal force once you start getting your ass kicked by the person you started attacking. |
ezikialrage said: I don't know. There are two possiblities. One possibility is that Zimmerman ignored the 911 operators advice and continued following a suspicious individual,asked what he was doing and as a result was attacked by this suspicious individual and had to use lethal force to defend himself. If this is true ZImmerman had every right to shoot his attacker. The stand your ground law allows you use lethal force to kill someone who starts attacking you instead of fleeing form that attacker. The other possibilty is that Zimmerman ignored the 911 followed Martin . Then he started asssaulting martin,Martin fought back,Zimmerman was lossing and shot Martin.If this is the case then Zimmerman had no right to shoot Martin. The stand your ground law does not allow you to physically start attacking someone and then use lethal force once you start getting your ass kicked by the person you started attacking. The thing you're missing though is that nowhere in the stand your ground law does it allow a person to act as a vigilante and go after "suspicious" people in the first place. If anything the stand your ground law supports Trayvon more than Zimmerman since Trayvon was protecting himself against Zimmerman (not with a firearm but you get the point). |
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| I don't like to commit to a damning opinion on anything I'm not intimately familiar with, all I can say is random violence makes me really sad :< |
| I'm not one to rush to judgement on stories like this because they are plagued with sensationalist news reports, but one thing is for certain, this makes people like myself who carry firearms look very, very bad. One guy does something like this and the whole country wants to take my guns from me. I've already received comments from coworkers, candidly black ones, that know that I carry a handgun express being scared of me doing so after this story erupted(with no previous indication of being so before). The case itself has no effect on my life whatsoever, but the hype behind it certainly can. I'm just sad that every CCW permit holder in the country will be under scrutiny because of the actions of this one man. EDIT:This is the exact kind of sensationalism I was talking about. This is a US congressman that is implying that Trayvon was shot in the back of the head like an execution when in actuality he was shot in the chest. He also said a couple other things I find detestable, but I won't get into that. |
DefianceMar 29, 2012 9:48 PM
Defiance said: I'm not one to rush to judgement on stories like this because they are plagued with sensationalist news reports, but one thing is for certain, this makes people like myself who carry firearms look very, very bad. One guy does something like this and the whole country wants to take my guns from me. I've already received comments from coworkers, candidly black ones, that know that I carry a handgun express being scared of me doing so after this story erupted(with no previous indication of being so before). The case itself has no effect on my life whatsoever, but the hype behind it certainly can. Its not like you (guys carrying a gun) looked especially good even before this incident. Really, I would be surprised if your coworkers werent scared to some extent. I probably wouldnt come into a radius of 100m close to you. And if they are scared, I think its pretty plausible that they wouldnt tell you right away. Maybe this incident gave them the courage just to do so. I see where you are coming from, but you cant really blame it all on this one. |
| IMO. ok.. so zimmerman follows him and says some fkd up stuff.. then yells for help for who knows how long.. then shoots the kid.. thats fucked up. he brought his gun with him while on a solo "patrol" when hes nothing more than a mere civilian. i assume hes just a racist fk who started yelling as an excuse to shoot him. its like this. im walking outside my house to patrol and catch "suspicious" people. When i find them, i will follow them around and call the police if i were find a suspicious person. I make sure to bring my gun in case he starts anything with me. I found a suspicious person. Hes black with a hoodie walking in the rain. He must be on drugs its RAINING. I'll call police. Hes looking around. Now looking at houses.. Oh he noticed me.. Hes staring. His hand is in his pocket. He has something. They say not to follow him. Im gonna follow him still because im on patrol with a gun. He runs. I pursue him. *screen goes black* Im yelling for help! I got a gun but yelling for help for who knows how long! I shoot the kid. WTF. Seriously? Zimmermans obviously the aggressor for stalking this kid following him around chasing him with a gun on hold when he runs away. Hes walking around in the rain on his cellphone. OMG. He has a hoodie because its fkn raining. HERPDERP. DAM. Ive done that exact thing who knows how many times. I'll check out apartments, house, posters, stores, and about anything when i was that age just to pass time, learn my way around, bored, on the cellphone etc. if i saw some guy staring at me, i'd stare back too and to see who this guy is in case its some weirdo. I would also walk away afterwards since it looks like trouble. If the guy were to start following me around when im walking fast almost running in pursuit chasing me.. would seem like this guy is some crazy stalker out to get me. stand my ground if i cant get away. This can easily lead to a self defense fight. And if this guy pulled out a gun, well there goes life. 17 years old. Damm..... been nice while it lasted.. |
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| He's (Zimmerman) a crack on drugs whom also happened to be trigger happy moron is all I can say. He's lucky he wasn't living in the Philippines like this case, http://ph.news.yahoo.com/suspects-rape-slay-7-old-shot-dead-182415812.html you think it was a scuffle? no the police were either bribed or related to the girl and now that's justice done although in the form of revenge. |
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shiroto said: I had to pass a FBI background check and a handgun efficiency test to have the privilege to carry one(also have to retake every 5 years). It shouldn't scare you for me to have a handgun on me anymore than a police officer.Its not like you (guys carrying a gun) looked especially good even before this incident. Really, I would be surprised if your coworkers werent scared to some extent. I probably wouldnt come into a radius of 100m close to you. And if they are scared, I think its pretty plausible that they wouldnt tell you right away. Maybe this incident gave them the courage just to do so. I see where you are coming from, but you cant really blame it all on this one. I do find it funny that when an event like this happens, there is national outcry. But when the tens of black on black murders happen a day, it makes a 2 minute segment on the local news. Zimmerman was a bad apple and should be punish accordingly. Don't tread on me and fuck with my rights for what someone else did, that's like annulling the first amendment because of the Westboro baptist church. |
Defiance said: shiroto said: I had to pass a FBI background check and a handgun efficiency test to have the privilege to carry one(also have to retake every 5 years). It shouldn't scare you for me to have a handgun on me anymore than a police officer.Its not like you (guys carrying a gun) looked especially good even before this incident. Really, I would be surprised if your coworkers werent scared to some extent. I probably wouldnt come into a radius of 100m close to you. And if they are scared, I think its pretty plausible that they wouldnt tell you right away. Maybe this incident gave them the courage just to do so. I see where you are coming from, but you cant really blame it all on this one. But you have to understand that most people don't know the process that it takes to be able to carry a weapon. I think that it's just the giant upper hand you would have over us in any given situation, if you so chose, that you could take advantage of. It's just a scary thought that someone could shoot you so easily. I've always been very nervous about guns. Never liked them, even though my dad insists keeping about ten of them in our house. I'm also especially iffy about them lately, since we just recently had a problem in my school about someone with a gun, talking about who they would shoot. He was quickly expelled, but still. |
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| A fucked up gun nut and fucked up gun laws fucked an innocent person and the fucker who killed him got free, you say? In what third world banana republican shit hole did this happen? Before the delayed reaction from the bullshit press finally kicked into overdrive on this tragedy I already knew the answer, through Prescience: FLORRRIDUHHH Hold on, I hear noises. Could be a black. |
Cottonrabbit said: I actually don't know much about the case beyond what was put here. I agree that it Zimmerman sounds like a vigilante nut (seriously, who calls the police over some kid looking at houses while he is wandering slowly down the street and follows them?). His broken nose suggests to me it is more likely that when he gave up following Trayven, he was probably stupid enough to yell out something offensive at him and the kid came back and decked him on the nose. There is a lot of holes in his story but the fact is there is no evidence to prove otherwise. You cannot convict someone based on popular opinion or that they are a jerk. There must be evidence and it is far better that some of the guilty get away then conviction of the innocent on heresay. No evidence? What about the dead teenager, the fact that it was Zimmerman who shot him, and the fact that he started it by following him in the first place. Even if Trayvon broke his nose (which doesn't seem likely from the surveillance videos), doesn't defending yourself from some creep following you with a gun fall under self-defense? Or is killing someone who was acting in self-defense also considered self-defense? |
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ycart59 said: It would take way less effort(and a much higher probability due to accidents tbh) for someone to randomly run you over with a car in the parking lot than it would ever be to shoot you, are you as scared of someone randomly running you over in a car as you are of being randomly shot?But you have to understand that most people don't know the process that it takes to be able to carry a weapon. I think that it's just the giant upper hand you would have over us in any given situation, if you so chose, that you could take advantage of. It's just a scary thought that someone could shoot you so easily. I've always been very nervous about guns. Never liked them, even though my dad insists keeping about ten of them in our house. ycart59 said: Here is where you really lose me on CC permits because a student of a school is not allowed to carry onto his own school under the permits conditions, so if he did so it would be in direct violation. Not that it would matter, criminals don't care for obeying the law. That's what makes them criminals lol. Do you think when Seung-Hui Cho walked up to Virginia Tech and saw the "gun-free zone" sign he would have said "well shit, I guess I can't shoot the place up today"?I'm also especially iffy about them lately, since we just recently had a problem in my school about someone with a gun, talking about who they would shoot. He was quickly expelled, but still. Gun-free zones are a joke imo, 90% of mass shootings occur in those very locations because the shooters know that the law abiding citizens will have no way of defending themselves. I don't know about you, but the next time a guy walked into a school to shoot everyone, I wish a teacher would pull out a .38 and shoot the fucker in the head. |
Defiance said: It would take way less effort(and a much higher probability due to accidents tbh) for someone to randomly run you over with a car in the parking lot than it would ever be to shoot you, are you as scared of someone randomly running you over in a car as you are of being randomly shot? Isn't that like, a bad example? The whole reason guns are scary is because of freak situations that escalate quickly when people are acting impulsively and end badly. There's no reason for some random person to run you over with a car. On the other hand, if you get into an argument with someone and it gets out of hand they've got a gun when otherwise they might just kick a door or something. I mean, that's what this whole thing is about. A situation escalating and ending badly. Not that I want to get involved in arguing or have deep opinions about gun control but I do know that I'd really like to avoid the tedious type of person who thinks that their everyday routine needs to include a deadly weapon, when you're far, far less at risk for a random deadly confrontation than say, a fatal auto accident (emphasis on accident, not using that in relation to the previous example). I bet those same people don't feel proportionately apprehensive about driving though. |
Cottonrabbit said: Niqhtmarez said: Responding officers handcuffed Zimmerman and took him into custody but they did not formally arrest him, saying that they did not find evidence to contradict his assertion of self-defense.However, the lead homicide investigator was not convinced by Zimmerman's account and wanted to charge him with manslaughter, but the state attorney's office said there was insufficient evidence for a conviction. I actually don't know much about the case beyond what was put here. I agree that it Zimmerman sounds like a vigilante nut (seriously, who calls the police over some kid looking at houses while he is wandering slowly down the street and follows them?). His broken nose suggests to me it is more likely that when he gave up following Trayven, he was probably stupid enough to yell out something offensive at him and the kid came back and decked him on the nose. There is a lot of holes in his story but the fact is there is no evidence to prove otherwise. You cannot convict someone based on popular opinion or that they are a jerk. There must be evidence and it is far better that some of the guilty get away then conviction of the innocent on heresay. I also forgot to say trayvon was on a phone! with his girlfriend call logs back it up |
NiqhtmarezMar 31, 2012 6:23 AM
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Defiance said: ycart59 said: It would take way less effort(and a much higher probability due to accidents tbh) for someone to randomly run you over with a car in the parking lot than it would ever be to shoot you, are you as scared of someone randomly running you over in a car as you are of being randomly shot?But you have to understand that most people don't know the process that it takes to be able to carry a weapon. I think that it's just the giant upper hand you would have over us in any given situation, if you so chose, that you could take advantage of. It's just a scary thought that someone could shoot you so easily. I've always been very nervous about guns. Never liked them, even though my dad insists keeping about ten of them in our house. ycart59 said: Here is where you really lose me on CC permits because a student of a school is not allowed to carry onto his own school under the permits conditions, so if he did so it would be in direct violation. Not that it would matter, criminals don't care for obeying the law. That's what makes them criminals lol. Do you think when Seung-Hui Cho walked up to Virginia Tech and saw the "gun-free zone" sign he would have said "well shit, I guess I can't shoot the place up today"?I'm also especially iffy about them lately, since we just recently had a problem in my school about someone with a gun, talking about who they would shoot. He was quickly expelled, but still. Gun-free zones are a joke imo, 90% of mass shootings occur in those very locations because the shooters know that the law abiding citizens will have no way of defending themselves. I don't know about you, but the next time a guy walked into a school to shoot everyone, I wish a teacher would pull out a .38 and shoot the fucker in the head. ...Actually, I am pretty afraid of randomly being run over. My friend just died yesterday because he was hit by a car while walking. But moving aside from that, it's just the fear of death that people have. Guns are a powerful thing, and angry people with guns are terrifying to me. And I don't think that it's just me that feels this way. If there's someone that I don't know, and they tell me they're carrying a gun with them, then of course I'm going to be afraid. And yes, gun-free zones really do nothing at all. But they need to be there, just because there's so many kids there, even if they don't really do anything. But when someone considers their life is in danger, they don't give a shit if they have a permit or not. And I would always consider my life in some sort of danger around someone with a gun, just because that's how I've always felt about guns. And I don't know what will change that. Even when my own father has his gun out, I don't feel safe. And he's my dad. |
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ycart59 said: Because there is nothing more scary to the American public than another American exercising his constitutional rights.And I don't think that it's just me that feels this way. hikky said: CCW holders commit homicide at a staggeringly lower rate than the general public, so I'm not buying that. It's people like Plaxico Burress who you have to worry about, the ones who have no permit and no regard for the law.Isn't that like, a bad example? The whole reason guns are scary is because of freak situations that escalate quickly when people are acting impulsively and end badly. |
Defiance said: Because there is nothing more scary to the American public than another American exercising his constitutional rights. Depends on how you interpret the constitution. Most people only look at the "right to bear arms" part, and not the part about the "well-regulated militia". To me that doesn't imply a right for every person to walk around with a gun and use it in whatever way they see fit. And I agree with ycart, people carrying guns do not make me feel more safe, but less safe. I don't give a damn about your background checks, people do kill with their legally owned guns. |
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Narmy said: Defiance said: Because there is nothing more scary to the American public than another American exercising his constitutional rights. Depends on how you interpret the constitution. Most people only look at the "right to bear arms" part, and not the part about the "well-regulated militia". To me that doesn't imply a right for every person to walk around with a gun and use it in whatever way they see fit. And I agree with ycart, people carrying guns do not make me feel more safe, but less safe. I don't give a damn about your background checks, people do kill with their legally owned guns. Your post really reminds me of the gun control episode from Penn and Teller (if you're interested it can be found on youtube in a 3 part set of videos). And just so you know a legal gun owner uses his/her firearm illegally at an extremely low rate. Also if you're gonna ask for sources here you go: http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2009/december/crimestats_122109 http://gunowners.org/fs0404.htm (They provide sources at the end if you don't want to believe a pro-gun lobby.) This one is probably the best: http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp#background |
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61scissorsplz said: Well Trayvon Martin is Barrack Obamas son so itsaprettybigdealguys I was waiting for a wanna-be funny troll to appear in this thread. As for the thread, I have no opinion. If I don't know all the facts, I'd rather not be brainwashed into believing anything, aside from the obvious "no one should've had to die". |
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| I believe self-defense, though my biggest question is why the hell did he follow him in the first place? Doing good is only good when you're smart about it, otherwise you're just screwing up. Honestly, these sensationalist, reverse racist asshats are making too much of an issue about Trayvon being black. Seriously, stop being so sensitive America. get over it already. dyandra101 said: Da hell is L when you need him... So sorry but deus ex machina doesn't work in real life. |
| I do not know if he killed him in self defense or in cold blood. It's not within my ability to know that as I wasn't there, however there are several things we do know that should lead to a trial. Specifically, he was following a kid because he was "suspicious" even though he was told not too by the 911 operator. He had called the police and in my opinion it should have ended there, but he continued and someone ended up dead. He said he was attacked, well that's fine, he can provide his medical records in court. Now that's what I think should happen, and he can be proven innocent or guilty in court. In my opinion though, at the end of the day he shot an unarmed kid, regardless of what excuses he makes that does not change. He followed a kid, with a loaded gun, whether that kid attacked him or not is irrelevant to me, because even if he did, he was essentially being stalked...*shrugs*, but that's only my opinion and obviously has nothing to do with the actual "law". |
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| Bumping, 'cause the trial had been underway for a week now. In any case: |
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| I hate KyuuAL said: Bumping, 'cause the trial had been underway for a week now. In any case: I hate Facebook and Twitter messages like this. It doesn't really show any proof or, dare I say, useful information about the subject at hand, but moreso ad hominems and opinions. He may have had a 3.7GPA, may have been accepted into college, etc. but all of that is meaningless when you add opinions like "innocent boy", and even more pointless when those messages jump the shark with "but ..., ...., and ... deemed him a threat to ....." That's a shitty story XD and of course the ad hominems of "he was a loyal friend, loving son, innocent boy". I wonder if it was an actual friend of Martin or some random dude who wrote and "tweeted" that. |
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| Murder is already out of the question, now its just a matter of manslaughter vs acquittal. That is my opinion after the flop of Rachel Jeantel's testimony and the eyewitness accounts, especially John Good(the only person to actually witness them fighting)'s testimony that the one that was getting beat up was in red(Zimmerman) and the one on top doing the beating was wearing black/gray. |
| Isn't this strictly for the jury to decide? |
| Let this be our little secret, no needs to know we're feeling HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER! |
NickyCharisma said: I don't get what you mean, are you saying people aren't/shouldn't be allowed to have opinions on the subject?Isn't this strictly for the jury to decide? |
Defiance said: NickyCharisma said: I don't get what you mean, are you saying people aren't/shouldn't be allowed to have opinions on the subject?Isn't this strictly for the jury to decide? Valid point. My comment was dumb. Sometimes I just get carried away. |
| Let this be our little secret, no needs to know we're feeling HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER! |
| Aye the nigga had it coming |
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Volunteer watchman George Zimmerman suffered "insignificant" injuries in the fight in which he shot and killed unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, a medical examiner testified on Tuesday, as prosecutors attempted to undermine Zimmerman's claim he feared for his life. http://www.newsmax.com/US/travon-martin-trial-zimmerman/2013/07/02/id/513134 With the word "insignificant", the jury should take note: killing Trayvon was unnecessary. |
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| He shouldn't have followed him period. He probably made it obvious like hell. I would be suspicious if someone was stalking me. |
| The "suspicious behavior" he witnissed was simply a black guy wearing a hoody walking down a sidewalk talking on his phone, in the rain He stalks the dude and then kills him. this guys a schizophrenic murderer ..or just racist |
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Defense lawyers for George Zimmerman, charged with the second-degree murder of Trayvon Martin, rested their case on Wednesday, on a day when Zimmerman told the judge he did not want to testify on his own behalf. "I think we have a very, very good chance with the jury," Mark O'Mara, Zimmerman's defense attorney, said at a press conference after court ended on Wednesday evening. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/10/19395261-defense-rests-in-zimmerman-trial-zimmerman-doesnt-take-the-stand?lite Under the Court of the Public Opinion -- the choice to not testify is a sign of cowardice. From the defense perspective, it may be a genius move, as he may actually screw up on the stand and compromise his case. |
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| Easily self defense and he will be acquitted. The prosecution asking for a lessor sentence shows that they're not confident with their case and they shouldn't be. I agree that Zimmerman is an idiot for following someone, but being followed does not give you the right to attack your follower. This is easily what happened: Zimmerman wants to play cop and ask the kid why are you in the neighborhood. Martin: "Stop following me you cracker fuck!" *PUNCH* |
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| I just hate hearing about this case, makes me sick. |
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| I will be surprised if he gets second degree murder or walks. I'm really expecting Manslaughter. |
MrBattosai said: Easily self defense and he will be acquitted. The prosecution asking for a lessor sentence shows that they're not confident with their case and they shouldn't be. Well, there's also that Florida Stand Your Ground Law, which actually makes lethal self-defense legal in public. |
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Starchaser187 said: Were you? Speculating about what happened is fine.MrBattosai said: This is easily what happened: Zimmerman wants to play cop and ask the kid why are you in the neighborhood. Martin: "Stop following me you cracker fuck!" *PUNCH* I'm sorry, were you there when the event occurred? |
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