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Mar 28, 2012 1:41 AM

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WOW, this last episode was epic, especially the Yuji/Syndonay VS Shana/Margey battle . I enjoyed the last 2 seasons but this one is really the best of all. And finally Yuji x Shana after all these episodes, Misaki city back to normal, bunch of new lives and exciting things at Xanadu... Definitely won't forget this series. 10/10
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Mar 28, 2012 3:20 AM

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10/10 This episode made my day =)
 
Mar 28, 2012 5:04 AM
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Davyu said:
ichigo03 said:
This final season made little sense!!!

It really didn't....at least to me!

Yuuji joins the "Bad guys" to create a new world where they could live in peace, the flame hazes object to this, then we have 20 episodes of war...

Many people, and at the very end, both sides agree to the new world with the rule that they put in place???

OK...

Yuuji's main reason for doing ALL of this was to be able to live with Shana in peace, OK, like Shana said "You could've just asked".....Facepalm!!!

This final season was just so damn convoluted, it really was....I'll be very surprised if half the people that watched this anime really understood it.


Anyways, I don't think it was bad, but it definitely wasn't great.....7/10

Overall, I'm happy Shana and Yuuji get to live together and they both expressed their love, it's a "Happy ending" I guess, but the way we got here seems so damn unnecessary and too long.

I'm actually a bit disappointed by this final season, but overall I loved the Shana Series, and I will miss it.


I totally agree with this. You basically summarized everything I wanted to say.


this.
 
Mar 28, 2012 10:49 AM

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ichigo03 said:
This final season made little sense!!!

It really didn't....at least to me!

Yuuji's main reason for doing ALL of this was to be able to live with Shana in peace, OK, like Shana said "You could've just asked".....Facepalm!!!
7/10



Ok. I m not good at english. So i cant explain all of them. But about this...
He wanted to create perfect world for shana. He wanted to stop fighting with tomogaras. And because of he killed too many Flame Hazes and human, he couldnt ask her. Then shana beat the hell out of him for this. It's like lover's quearrel, but with epic proportions. :D
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Mar 28, 2012 11:00 AM

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Season 3 killed me, the only good episodes for me was the starting 3 episodes and the last episode. The rest were major sleep promoters for me.
 
 
Mar 28, 2012 12:39 PM

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This was the most pointless lover's spat.
 
Mar 28, 2012 1:01 PM

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Nope. It was awesome. Full of epic sh.t
 
Mar 28, 2012 1:22 PM
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Dennoucoil said:
ichigo03 said:
This final season made little sense!!!

It really didn't....at least to me!

Yuuji's main reason for doing ALL of this was to be able to live with Shana in peace, OK, like Shana said "You could've just asked".....Facepalm!!!
7/10

Ok. I m not good at english. So i cant explain all of them. But about this...
He wanted to create perfect world for shana. He wanted to stop fighting with tomogaras. And because of he killed too many Flame Hazes and human, he couldnt ask her. Then shana beat the hell out of him for this. It's like lover's quearrel, but with epic proportions. :D
...epic proportions, and the lives of Sydonay and Margery Daw on the line, don't forget that. Yuuji got Sydonay killed (although he wanted to die) and could have had Margery killed just for his obstinate refusal of accepting Shana's unconditional love. Talk about having Saviour Syndrome.

 
Mar 28, 2012 1:27 PM

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The ending...was beautifully perfect. Despite some of the illogical events, it's all about love in the end.

9.5/10 from me. It counts as 10/10 anyway... So sad it's the ending. :(
 
Mar 28, 2012 1:42 PM

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Leon-Gun said:
Dennoucoil said:
ichigo03 said:
This final season made little sense!!!

It really didn't....at least to me!

Yuuji's main reason for doing ALL of this was to be able to live with Shana in peace, OK, like Shana said "You could've just asked".....Facepalm!!!
7/10

Ok. I m not good at english. So i cant explain all of them. But about this...
He wanted to create perfect world for shana. He wanted to stop fighting with tomogaras. And because of he killed too many Flame Hazes and human, he couldnt ask her. Then shana beat the hell out of him for this. It's like lover's quearrel, but with epic proportions. :D
...epic proportions, and the lives of Sydonay and
Margery Daw on the line, don't forget that. Yuuji got Sydonay killed (although he wanted to die) and could have had Margery killed just for his obstinate refusal of accepting Shana's unconditional love. Talk about having Saviour Syndrome.


Well... Yes, but at some point in the series, Magery kinda become sidekick of Shana. And as you know if a hero fight with enemy(doesn't matter how stupid reason) sidekick must be beside him/her. This is why being sidekick sucks. :)
 
 
Mar 28, 2012 4:00 PM

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Davyu said:
ichigo03 said:
This final season made little sense!!!

It really didn't....at least to me!

Yuuji joins the "Bad guys" to create a new world where they could live in peace, the flame hazes object to this, then we have 20 episodes of war...

Many people, and at the very end, both sides agree to the new world with the rule that they put in place???

OK...

Yuuji's main reason for doing ALL of this was to be able to live with Shana in peace, OK, like Shana said "You could've just asked".....Facepalm!!!

This final season was just so damn convoluted, it really was....I'll be very surprised if half the people that watched this anime really understood it.


Anyways, I don't think it was bad, but it definitely wasn't great.....7/10

Overall, I'm happy Shana and Yuuji get to live together and they both expressed their love, it's a "Happy ending" I guess, but the way we got here seems so damn unnecessary and too long.

I'm actually a bit disappointed by this final season, but overall I loved the Shana Series, and I will miss it.


I totally agree with this. You basically summarized everything I wanted to say.


I agree, the ending was stupid. I thought I was crazy for a minute seeing all the people on the forums praising how awesome it was. I mean right at the start of the series Yuji told everyone including Shana the he wanted to create a world where humans, flame haze, and the monsters can live together in perfect harmony and that Shana should join him. For some reason that was "taboo" in the eyes of Shana, the flame haze, and the rest of the higher ups but all of a sudden after Shana shot her rings to re-write the world creation spell to DO EXACTLY WHAT YUJI SAID AT THE START, it was suddenly alright. The last few episodes had a lot of flip flopping back and forth that really killed the story for me.
 
Mar 28, 2012 4:03 PM

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I can't believe its finally over. Cried a few times during the episode, it was just so moving. This ending is very satisfying and it did a very good job tying up all the knots with no questions left remaining.

I didn't realize that all the flame hazes were going to move to the new world as well lol. This episode was already very emotional from the beginning with all the farewells and goodbyes. Started tearing up with Wilhelmina as she said her goodbyes to Shana, it was very touching. Not to mention all those other flame hazes who really got to me throughout this season like Chiara.

That last fight was epic, wow Margery still had that form left hidden. It looked pretty cool and I love the way the fight went. So Yuji still wanted to create a world that humans and crimson denizens can live in harmony. And because of what he's done to get this far he wanted punishment for himself and do it all alone. Ffs thank god Shana was able to reach him. That nostalgia music really got to me and tears started coming out. It was like Shana was pouring out all of her feelings and etc. Realllllly happy the way everything turned out for them. Dat kiss!

Eh even though Yoshida was so annoying the last two season, now I sorta feel bad for her. She's like all alone now being one of the few people who knows what happen and certainly the only one in her group of friends at school now. :o Nice to see Margery being one of the few who stayed behind for Keisaku.

I am really going to miss this series. This was the best season by far imo, loved everything about it.
 
Mar 28, 2012 8:03 PM

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I loved seasons I and II. Season III was great too but at times, I feel the pace was too slow and didn't really get me to want to watch it once the subs was out. Still, great show after a very long wait. =]

Yuji + Shana <3


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Mar 28, 2012 10:16 PM

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I must admit, they pulled out a much nicer ending than I was expecting. I was still hoping for all the earth gods to die, but I guess that's okay. The season itself? Ehh, a lot of the conflict felt contrived and I didn't really understand anyone's motivations except for Yuji. I'll have to think about it, but it's probably the same score as the second season for me.
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Mar 28, 2012 11:37 PM
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ichigo03 said:
This final season made little sense!!!

It really didn't....at least to me!

Yuuji joins the "Bad guys" to create a new world where they could live in peace, the flame hazes object to this, then we have 20 episodes of war...

Many people, and at the very end, both sides agree to the new world with the rule that they put in place???

OK...

Yuuji's main reason for doing ALL of this was to be able to live with Shana in peace, OK, like Shana said "You could've just asked".....Facepalm!!!

This final season was just so damn convoluted, it really was....I'll be very surprised if half the people that watched this anime really understood it.


Anyways, I don't think it was bad, but it definitely wasn't great.....7/10

Overall, I'm happy Shana and Yuuji get to live together and they both expressed their love, it's a "Happy ending" I guess, but the way we got here seems so damn unnecessary and too long.

I'm actually a bit disappointed by this final season, but overall I loved the Shana Series, and I will miss it.


I gotta agree with this. I would've liked to see less named characters (so many to memorise...), but seeing Hirai in the credits was satisfying :)

I'd probably rate it 7.5/10.
 
Mar 29, 2012 3:10 AM

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Great ending. Most satisfying ending this season for me. 8/10.
 
 
Mar 29, 2012 3:32 AM

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reaper_unique said:
ichigo03 said:
This final season made little sense!!!

Well at least to me!

Yuuji joins the "Bad guys" to create a new world where they could live in peace, the flame hazes object to this, then we have 20 episodes of war...

Many people die, and at the very end, both sides agree to the new world with the rule that they put in place???

OK...

Yuuji's main reason for doing ALL of this was to be able to live with Shana in peace, OK...

But was it really necessary to do all of this?

Like Shana said "You could've just asked".....Facepalm!!!

This final season was just so damn convoluted, it really was....I'll be very surprised if half the people that watched this anime really understood it.


Anyways, I don't think it was bad, but it definitely wasn't great.....7/10

Overall, I'm happy Shana and Yuuji get to live together and they both expressed their love, it's a "Happy ending" I guess, but the way we got here seems so damn unnecessary and too long.

I'm actually a bit disappointed by this final season, but overall I loved the Shana Series, and I will miss it.


It was indeed retarded, all of this could have been easily avoided ...

In the end some of the Flame hazes went to Xanadu as well, like wtf. The GoC just wants to fulfill others wishes and if he thought for himself a bit (he's fucking thousands of years old and yet it seems like he has the mind of a 5 year old) he could have just put the restriction on himself and tell the flamehazes.


Guys guys guys, if you think that is how war works and you think a war can be avoided just by talking there would have been no wars in our world.

What they showed here is how real life work.
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Mar 29, 2012 9:32 PM

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If anyone can help, I have a few questions. I've read through the thread already,

Although first I want to start off by saying I was disappointed not to see Rebecca's reaction at some point to the fact Khamsin died, they seemed like they became good friends through out their battles.

Anyway, my mind is a bit hazy...does it mention how Tomogara are created (maybe in the first season)? I can't remember...

I'm also confused why flame haze went to the new world...this "law" of not eating humans didn't seem like something on a piece of paper that they could just not adhere to, it seemed like it makes the act of eating humans somehow impossible...so either they went there to find a new life and to just chill, or I'm wrong about the law? Plus, couldn't either side hold a grudge and kill the other anyway?

The next question isn't important at all. But I think the last fight with margery and sydonay was because she wanted to kill him for something in the past and he basically just wanted to die to be with hecate...?

Aside from that I suppose I understand what happened at the end. It makes it seem like Xanadu is the place to be really...
 
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The next question isn't important at all. But I think the last fight with margery and sydonay was because she wanted to kill him for something in the past and he basically just wanted to die to be with hecate...?

Aside from that I suppose I understand what happened at the end. It makes it seem like Xanadu is the place to be really...
Margery and SYdonay have hated each other guts for many many many centuries, yes.

 
Mar 30, 2012 10:00 AM

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Thank goodness this is over. I'll never have to watch it again. It was foolish of me thinking the 3rd season would be better. But I wanted to know how it ends. It was one of the worst stories I've ever saw.
 
Mar 30, 2012 10:34 AM

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I agree, it was a bit lackluster 'till the end. But thankfully it did leave me smiling in the end, I was pleased with the ending.

7/10
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Mar 31, 2012 2:10 AM

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*Que the melon-pan dance*
great satisfying ending.
JC was always been hiding stuffs from us and what a great way of delivering it.

I thought the story was horrible, but I would like to take that back. It was brilliant!

Too many new characters were presented on this series. some were interesting but mostly feels rushed and sloppy since the character development were way too brief.

When you think that the visuals couldn't get even better, SnS3 just proved you wrong. It is was more crisp than usual and the silky smooth the animations too!

The theme songs was memorable and fitting like always especially ALTIMA's I'll believe!
the BGMs eere also great and the VA's voices were fitting to their respective characters. I love how they put the first OP of SnS in the last episode. DAT NOSTALGIA MAN!

Enjoyment was not that good since they hold the key plot until the very last minutes. It was also not the SnS we all known and loved. it took the action path which was very different, not bad but different.

Overall it is the best of the trilogy. I now regret that i was half assing the first 23 episodes.
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Mar 31, 2012 11:10 AM

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Well the reason why the final season is all messed up is because J.C Staff screwed up on the second season. The second season was supposed to be packed full of foreshadowing for the Snake of the Festival, and Yuji steadily becoming more and more brutal; as well as actually explaining the Crimson Denizen's motives. However J.C Staff replaced almost all of that with romantic comedy filler. Overall I would have enjoyed the final season more if I didn't have to go read the light novels to figure out all the plot points they left out; but at least the ending was satisfactory.
 
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On the other note, I wonder what power of existence sex feels like?


Maybe they should make an OVA, Shana still needs to know how to make babies.
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Mar 31, 2012 5:52 PM

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A happy ending now Shana and Yuji never exsisted in the city but can be together forever 10/10. I will miss this series.
 
 
Apr 1, 2012 4:27 AM

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Loved the ending! Finally Yuji and Shana are together! This series is not perfect but I enjoyed it either way so 9/10 for me! I will miss Shana!
 
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Finally got caught up. I'm going to vent my opinions also.

20 episode of war and the end result is that they agreed not to eat humans... wow.
Why the fuck were Yuji and Shana still fighting in this episode... cause Yuji wanted to go to Xanadu alone to punish himself... terrible reason bro.
Yoshida is such a useless character.
Two of my favorite characters die; Khamsin and Sydonay.
Hishoku no Sora is still my favorite song in the series.

Overall, I found the series enjoyable and can kind of see why some fans like it so much. 7/10
 
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Loved the series. I didn't immediately understand it sometimes, but later on things became clear. That's a good thing: it's sometimes nice at first to be "what the fuck" and later be enlightened. I'd like to watch it again, maybe I'd see stuff I missed before. I really should read the novels too.

But the number of superfluous characters! Way too much. There was just no time or space to meet and greet and understand who the heck they were. And there were a load of flame haze at HQ who did nothing but talk about things the guys in the field were saying already. I can understand the need to balance the two opposing forces, but sometimes there was a character who appears to fill one role and then they just linger until the end. Also, I didn't like the number of flame hazes that were fighting in the first battle. I always thought there were countless tomogara but the flame hazes were a select few. But then, it's not my world, it's Takahashi Yashichiro's, and I enjoyed it nevertheless.

Thought I'd cry more manly tears at the end. Maybe I'm just getting too hardened to anime endings :/
 
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Loved the series. I didn't immediately understand it sometimes, but later on things became clear. That's a good thing: it's sometimes nice at first to be "what the fuck" and later be enlightened. I'd like to watch it again, maybe I'd see stuff I missed before. I really should read the novels too.

But the number of superfluous characters! Way too much. There was just no time or space to meet and greet and understand who the heck they were. And there were a load of flame haze at HQ who did nothing but talk about things the guys in the field were saying already. I can understand the need to balance the two opposing forces, but sometimes there was a character who appears to fill one role and then they just linger until the end. Also, I didn't like the number of flame hazes that were fighting in the first battle. I always thought there were countless tomogara but the flame hazes were a select few. But then, it's not my world, it's Takahashi Yashichiro's, and I enjoyed it nevertheless.

Thought I'd cry more manly tears at the end. Maybe I'm just getting too hardened to anime endings :/
There are more Tomogara than Flame Hazes though, that doesn't stop the Flame Hazes from having a relatively large force. Remember that the FLame Hazes only left behind token forces in their bases and moved almost ALL their forces to the main battle. The Tomogara were spread thin and STILL their main force had several times the amount of forces Flame Hazes had.

And it's not really select. The Crimsom Lords that protect balance just pick whatever humans has been already involved and ask for an alliance. There's as many Flame Hazes as there are Crimsom Lords.

 
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To be honest I felt completely lost in this season. I struggled to finish watching all the episodes, everytime a new episode of SnS coming out, was always the last one I watched because I cared very little.

6/10 because the animation was great.
 
Apr 3, 2012 5:43 PM

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Well, something was lacking i think. Also think this final season was a little confusing.

Still was enjoyable. Will give it a 7.
 
 
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I think they kinda botched the transition between Season 2 and 3. I got into SnS in the first place because there was a bit of slice-of-life element in it, and I enjoyed the balance between them living the normal life and fighting for the balance of the world.

But Season 3 completely threw that off - they just decided to suddenly plunge into in 20 episodes of war, and that completely shattered what I had come to expect from the first two seasons. So many people died in this season, in there was absolutely no warning that any of this would happen, even in the second season.

I did enjoy the fighting scenes, but the mood of the series just changed too abruptly for me; and 20 episodes of pretty much non-stop war was not enjoyable to follow.

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Putting that aside, I'm kinda disappointed that Shana and Yuji will never have existed in the original world; all those moments with the 'ordinary' characters have gone completely to waste. It also seems sad to me that Yuji's mother will never realize she once had another son.

The only thing worse than death, in my opinion, is never having existed, or being completely forgotten by everybody you care about. Which is why I'm very glad they brought Hirai back, albeit at the cost of Shana and Yuji never having existed.

Overall, a decent ending; though I would have preferred for everybody to return to the original world and live out an ordinary life...but I guess such an ending is impossible, considering everything that's happened.
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I think they kinda botched the transition between Season 2 and 3. I got into SnS in the first place because there was a bit of slice-of-life element in it, and I enjoyed the balance between them living the normal life and fighting for the balance of the world.

But Season 3 completely threw that off - they just decided to suddenly plunge into in 20 episodes of war, and that completely shattered what I had come to expect from the first two seasons. So many people died in this season, in there was absolutely no warning that any of this would happen, even in the second season.

I did enjoy the fighting scenes, but the mood of the series just changed too abruptly for me; and 20 episodes of pretty much non-stop war was not enjoyable to follow.

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Putting that aside, I'm kinda disappointed that Shana and Yuji will never have existed in the original world; all those moments with the 'ordinary' characters have gone completely to waste. It also seems sad to me that Yuji's mother will never realize she once had another son.

The only thing worse than death, in my opinion, is never having existed, or being completely forgotten by everybody you care about. Which is why I'm very glad they brought Hirai back, albeit at the cost of Shana and Yuji never having existed.

Overall, a decent ending; though I would have preferred for everybody to return to the original world and live out an ordinary life...but I guess such an ending is impossible, considering everything that's happened.
Yuuji had already been forgotten the moment he entered into a Flame Haze like relationship with the God of Creation. The only one that had to sacrifice her moments of regular life to bring Hirai back was Shana, but she herself knew it was gonna happen eventually and she had done it before.

 
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This was an amazing series. Story wise, it's horrible. All this bloody warfare wouldn't have happened if Yuji told Shana what's going on in his heart/mind from the beginning and vice versa. But no, they decide to cross swords instead and asume the worst. Oh well. The story was a mess. It gave light explanation of certain things but not definite. The ending was satisfactory althought the last battle was based on pure failure of communication. They didn't even have to fight in the first place. Yuji Baka! I still feel bad for Yoshida and her unrequited love for Yuji. It would've been better if she was a sacrifice.

The moral lesson in this series : say what's on your damn mind and heart to avoid a war that kills a lot of people and Tomogaras.

I can't decide if this is a 7/10 or a 9/10 for the sake of epicness.

So now that the world(Misaki City) saw the existence of Flame Haze and Tomogaras...what now?

I want an OVA or Moveh D:
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I'm a big fan of the shana franchise, when i watched the first i said this series seemed fine, the second kinda seemed dragged and they took awhile to get to the main plot, shakugan no shana s was imho the best out of all of them but 3 i'm afraid to say was BAD, it started off quite good but as soon as the war began it just plummeted downhill, the story was going off-point and it was getting hard to understand as it went on, the ending though was still happy and satisfying but still leaves us with more questions than answers, with the way it ended even though they say its the last, i really think there should be a 4th season for this, i was going tho give this a 4, but i'll give it a 5 just for old times sake and hope for better prospects in future

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Can somebody enlighten me?
What exactly was the point of the final fight?
Sydonay had to die just for that? WTF?
 
 
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Can somebody enlighten me?
What exactly was the point of the final fight?
Sydonay had to die just for that? WTF?

It just kept getting pointless as time went by
Probably just a desperate act to give everybody a happy ending since he always wanted to be with hecate

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TyroPwn said:
Can somebody enlighten me?
What exactly was the point of the final fight?
Sydonay had to die just for that? WTF?

It just kept getting pointless as time went by
Probably just a desperate act to give everybody a happy ending since he always wanted to be with hecate

Final fight had no meaning. It was based on Yuji's way of atoning for the sins he made which could've been avoided if he told Shana what he was doing and vice versa. The answer I can give is that Yuji fought Shana to get Hirai's soul torch to save/recreate Misaki City right before when Hirai was killed and to be with Shana. But as you can see, if Yuji asked for the torch and told her what he was going to do with it, the fight wouldn't have been needed.
Sydonay wanted to die to be with Hecate which was pretty dumb since she'll be reborn eventually.
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Sydonay wanted to die to be with Hecate which was pretty dumb since she'll be reborn eventually.

he will be reborn as well, you know.
They are connected to the Snake of Festival, so they can't really die (unless the Snake dies which is pretty much impossible now)
 
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Sydonay wanted to die to be with Hecate which was pretty dumb since she'll be reborn eventually.

he will be reborn as well, you know.
They are connected to the Snake of Festival, so they can't really die (unless the Snake dies which is pretty much impossible now)

Really? How? O_o I must have missed something in all the confusion and pointlessness xD I know Hecate will be reborn when wishes of Tomogaras come but for Sydonay...idk. Enlighten me plz!
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reve said:
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Sydonay wanted to die to be with Hecate which was pretty dumb since she'll be reborn eventually.

he will be reborn as well, you know.
They are connected to the Snake of Festival, so they can't really die (unless the Snake dies which is pretty much impossible now)

Really? How? O_o I must have missed something in all the confusion and pointlessness xD I know Hecate will be reborn when wishes of Tomogaras come but for Sydonay...idk. Enlighten me plz!
It was never explictly stated in the anime but Sydonay is kin of the Snake of the Festival just like Hecate, as such he will ressurect when Hecate does. I'm pretty sure all of the Trinity are kin of the God of Creation hence they can't truly die if The God of Creation lives. Bel-Peol is called the "daughter" of the God of Creation in the novels so I assume she is also as immortal as Sydonay and Hecate.

 
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Leon-Gun said:
Cian13th said:
reve said:
Cian13th said:

Sydonay wanted to die to be with Hecate which was pretty dumb since she'll be reborn eventually.

he will be reborn as well, you know.
They are connected to the Snake of Festival, so they can't really die (unless the Snake dies which is pretty much impossible now)

Really? How? O_o I must have missed something in all the confusion and pointlessness xD I know Hecate will be reborn when wishes of Tomogaras come but for Sydonay...idk. Enlighten me plz!
It was never explictly stated in the anime but Sydonay is kin of the Snake of the Festival just like Hecate, as such he will ressurect when Hecate does. I'm pretty sure all of the Trinity are kin of the God of Creation hence they can't truly die if The God of Creation lives. Bel-Peol is called the "daughter" of the God of Creation in the novels so I assume she is also as immortal as Sydonay and Hecate.


I see.
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I love how easily people in this anime moves on from the deaths of comrades of friends theyve fought beside for hundreds if not thousands of years. I assumed it was because once the perfect world is made that everyone that died here would be reborn on the other side but no1 actually mentioned anything to that effect which just made everyone seem that much more heartless.

Another point that amuses me is the tearful goodbyes for shana b4 eveyone moved on. I assumed it meant that shana was going to stay on this side but again, once the fight was done and Yuji and Shana made up they both went to the same world as all the ppl that said goodbye to her... so what was all that emotion for? did they assume she was going to lose and die by Yuji's hand?

Overall the ending was definitely not as good as some people seem to think.
 
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I didn't really enjoy the third season, mainly because the whole conflict of the story was pointless other than to take up the majority of the series, and in the end it was confirmed to be just that.
Then you had new characters whose names you didn't remember become really prevalent in the story.

I still liked the ending though, as a conclusion to the whole story overall it was pretty good.
 
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I am at a loss for words to accurately describe how much I enjoyed the ending, so I'll just quote this epic post from the first page:

game8910 said:
It has ended, after 7 years, 3 anime seasons, a movie, and an OVA Shakugan no Shana comes to an end.
What a great ending too, finally Shana and Yuji make their oath to be together and seal it with a kiss, that alone was something I've wanted to see for so long now.


Pretty much summarizes what I wanted to say.

5/5 for the ending. If that's not a perfect ending, I don't know what is. Also, I loved that song by Mami Kawada at the end.
 
 
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I'm glad the series has concluded, but I was very disappointed in the 3rd season. I was barely able to stay focused in the latter part of the series. All these names showed up and wasn't really able to wrap my around what the point of all of them were for. Much love to seasons 1 and 2. Time to watch the last episode of ZnT
 
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The ending is satisfying, since everything gets resolved and everyone is happy. And I like happy endings :)

However, the amount of turmoil to get to this ending is way too unnecessary as so many people have mentioned. Tomogaras and Flame Hazes will not sit down to talk, so war goes on for 20 episodes, where both sides eventually converge and compromise.

For me, most of this series was just a big debate that eventually came to a compromise after endless amounts of beating up each other. Also, so many random concepts and characters keep getting introduced, only complicating the plot on a very superficial level.

But then again, SnS would be the same as any other Shounen if they didn't have a cast of like 200 characters and 5393845 technical terms.

Well, atleast all the confusion came to an end.
 
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You can't have peace talks unless both sides are willing and neither sides were willing. The Tomogaras and Flame Hazes has a very long history of violence and hatred between them. Almost all the Flame Hazes were created because they were either killed by the Tomogaras themselves or their loved ones were murdered in front of them (ex.Yuri Season 2 ep. 8 & 9) . Driven by hatred and vengeance, they'll attack any Tomogaras on sight ( ex. Season 1 Margery). It only took an outsider ( Yuji) and victim to try to change it.
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Ending was pretty good, I did expect more but this is very very good for JC staff since they usually fail big time. I'm still missing the slice of life of the first 2 seasons.
I wonder what kind of ending ZnT will have, I guess worse than this.
I'll give this 8 out of 10.
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2011-2012 biggest disappointment. It was painful to watch a good show to turn out to be worst shit i have seen in a long time. First two seasons was very good but season 3 was shounen crap of the worst kind! Long boring action scenes with endless talking!! I HATE IT! I gave it 3 out of 10 and it is good because i wanted to give it 1. I gave it 3 only because Shana is a nice and cute character.
 
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