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Mar 19, 2012 1:20 PM

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I think the main problem with this season is the execution. I love the characters, and I plan to read the novels sometime soon, but the way that J.C. Staff executed everything was completely off topic and random. I can only give this season a 7 or 6 because half the time I didn't know what the fuck was going on. Plus, like people mentioned, I HATED having all these new characters in it. I love this series for Shana, for Yuuji, for Kazumi (sorta), for all the original characters that I grew to know and love. No one really cares about all these other side characters that got useless screentime. Fuck you, J.C. Staff.
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Mar 19, 2012 1:59 PM

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All these questions left and right show that people really didn't pay attention either out of lack of effort or due to no attention span; some questions are obviously going to occur, heck i have a few myself, but to act like the whole show has a broken plot and everything needs to be questioned just shows you didn't watch it carefully (or at all) and are grading it incorrectly; its just like i said before; people who dislike this show; from what i've seen and read is simply because they can't keep up; their lack of ability to do so isn't the shows fault its the viewer for lack of better words being incapable; If i'm wrong then answer this; how are there people who understand the entire plot without reading the novels? if you say there aren't any then you are being ignorant; so while you may have found this offensive i simply recommend you reconsider your standing on why you are truly grading this season whatever you are grading it; because other wise you are just trolling.
 
Mar 19, 2012 2:04 PM

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Exacly this. I would have prefered fan service over this season.

Same characters and some of the same elements from first season were kept, but rest of it was like completely new show. I hope this ends well because the about 15-20 episodes were bad from all the 23 this far.

I hope J.C doesn't screw up Zero no Tsukaima and Shakugan no Shana endings. The heroines (aka. Small and spicy tsunderes who love the protagonist) are just too cute to deserve a bad ending.

Waiting for special episodes full of fan service!

After the explanation of Game about the bus it is quite understandable but for people like us who don't read the novels it will always be something unexpected and out of place. I understand the novels are quite good though.

And for posters, I'm not a hater. Like I said, what I was disappointed is with the season, not with the story. I'm sure the novels explain everything unlike the adaptation made my J.C. Staff.
 
Mar 19, 2012 2:22 PM

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All these questions left and right show that people really didn't pay attention either out of lack of effort or due to no attention span; some questions are obviously going to occur, heck i have a few myself, but to act like the whole show has a broken plot and everything needs to be questioned just shows you didn't watch it carefully (or at all) and are grading it incorrectly; its just like i said before; people who dislike this show; from what i've seen and read is simply because they can't keep up; their lack of ability to do so isn't the shows fault its the viewer for lack of better words being incapable; If i'm wrong then answer this; how are there people who understand the entire plot without reading the novels? if you say there aren't any then you are being ignorant; so while you may have found this offensive i simply recommend you reconsider your standing on why you are truly grading this season whatever you are grading it; because other wise you are just trolling.


I praise the people who were able to pay attention. I found it extremely difficult to and honestly, I didn't expect that it'd be this complicated to understand it. Maybe it wasn't to others, but to the majority of the viewers it was obviously overly complex. That doesn't mean we have a "lack of ability to keep up", it means J.C. Staff has a lack of ability to keep the majority of it's audience interested in the series.
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Mar 19, 2012 2:49 PM

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I praise the people who were able to pay attention. I found it extremely difficult to and honestly, I didn't expect that it'd be this complicated to understand it. Maybe it wasn't to others, but to the majority of the viewers it was obviously overly complex. That doesn't mean we have a "lack of ability to keep up", it means J.C. Staff has a lack of ability to keep the majority of it's audience interested in the series.

Its not a good idea to generalize like that, you are making it sound like the fanbase for the series is mostly composed of people that just want everything spoonfed to them or are unable to keep up with a story. Granted, the big gap between season 2 and 3 is part of the reason some people are confused now, but this is not the fault of the adaptation itself which compared to S1 and S2 has been the most loyal of them all.
 
Mar 19, 2012 3:47 PM

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-There was fighting
-Everyone wins
-Happy ending

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Mar 19, 2012 3:57 PM

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-LovelyTsundere said:
InfiniteDestiny said:
All these questions left and right show that people really didn't pay attention either out of lack of effort or due to no attention span; some questions are obviously going to occur, heck i have a few myself, but to act like the whole show has a broken plot and everything needs to be questioned just shows you didn't watch it carefully (or at all) and are grading it incorrectly; its just like i said before; people who dislike this show; from what i've seen and read is simply because they can't keep up; their lack of ability to do so isn't the shows fault its the viewer for lack of better words being incapable; If i'm wrong then answer this; how are there people who understand the entire plot without reading the novels? if you say there aren't any then you are being ignorant; so while you may have found this offensive i simply recommend you reconsider your standing on why you are truly grading this season whatever you are grading it; because other wise you are just trolling.


I praise the people who were able to pay attention. I found it extremely difficult to and honestly, I didn't expect that it'd be this complicated to understand it. Maybe it wasn't to others, but to the majority of the viewers it was obviously overly complex. That doesn't mean we have a "lack of ability to keep up", it means J.C. Staff has a lack of ability to keep the majority of it's audience interested in the series.


I think the problem there is they made the information about the "Grand Order" so very vague until the final few episodes, and they waited so long to reveal everything that people felt like they were reading the same thing over again, and didn't pay much attention to it.

That being said, i still think J.C. did an excellent job with this season. About a year or two ago when i was reading about stuff that has been happening in the novels, i saw that Yuji joined Bal Masque because a part of him was the Snake of the Festival, and that him and Shana fought, so i was worried about what would happen to their relationship, however watching this season has put all that to rest, and J.C. pulled it off extremely well.

I thought Bal Masque and the Snake of the Festival were "evil" but this season made me side with them surprisingly, and it was hard to determine who was the antagonist. When Yuji captured Shana, and the flame haze mounted their rescue, i felt like they were the bad guys here and i didn't want them to succeed in her rescue. The ending of this episode was done amazingly too, They made the Snake of the Festival have a voice of deception, so it made me smile when he was separated from Yuji and what he said to him. I can say that i'm happy with the turnout of this season, and J.C. had me cheering for both sides.

Also, where was Rebecca in Khamsin's death D=? I figured she would be there too to see him off.
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Mar 19, 2012 4:53 PM
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There's too much battle and too little explanation. If it's possible for Tomogara to survive in Xanadu without consuming humans, why didn't Yuji/Snake design it this way from the beginning? It's described as a world "overflowing with the Power of Existence", so why being so eager about eating people? Are they tasty or what?


 
Mar 19, 2012 5:21 PM

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qifo said:
There's too much battle and too little explanation. If it's possible for Tomogara to survive in Xanadu without consuming humans, why didn't Yuji/Snake design it this way from the beginning? It's described as a world "overflowing with the Power of Existence", so why being so eager about eating people? Are they tasty or what?




Wow so J.C Staff fucks up again and basically make the Flame Hazes look like saints.

Well this season gets a damn 5/10 for me.

I still see the stupid ass 4 gods as a waste.
 
Mar 19, 2012 6:19 PM

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Lightbarier said:
qifo said:
There's too much battle and too little explanation. If it's possible for Tomogara to survive in Xanadu without consuming humans, why didn't Yuji/Snake design it this way from the beginning? It's described as a world "overflowing with the Power of Existence", so why being so eager about eating people? Are they tasty or what?




Wow so J.C Staff fucks up again and basically make the Flame Hazes look like saints.

Well this season gets a damn 5/10 for me.

I still see the stupid ass 4 gods as a waste.


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Mar 19, 2012 7:32 PM

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So...anyone have any idea why Shana is still going to fight Yuji? The shit is out of the way so WTF? She still butt hurt or something?
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Mar 19, 2012 7:47 PM

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Unbelievable. To think there's one episode left T_T.

Shana was what got me interested in anime, so the series really means alot to me.

Question: So was that beam of light the 3rd God of the three? Alastor, Snake and ?

I actually love the fact that they added a ton of characters and expanded. My #1 concern with Shana was sense of scale. I didn't see how you could bring up issues like flame haze, tomogara, torches etc. If it was all in one city with a dozen characters. Way too self-contained, although that was one of its strengths, focusing on Yuji x Shana. But its interesting to have new characters.

A perfect example is Index. Index introduces a ton of random characters that contribute in their own way to the main plot, but keep a core, and it works fantastically. I sorta wish we had more between Shana and Yuji, but if their engulfed in this massive conflict, it'd be foolish to repeat what S1 and S2 did. The loose ends did seem to tie up pretty quickly. But they had to do it all in one season, so its understandable.

People are alot pickier than they were a few years ago :/

Ive always liked the flame haze, so I never felt any animosity towards them, but wow. My opinion of Bal Masque changed entirely

I think the setup is amazing though. In the end, neither the good guys or the bad guys win. There's no reason to fight anymore, and now the focus and last episode is down to one final showdown between Shana and Yuji. Nice.

Its not turning out how I imagined it would years ago. But its still been a great ride.
 
Mar 19, 2012 8:15 PM

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Ending was abrupt; we have 5 and a half episodes of war and half an episode where it suddenly ends. They should have ended the war more gradually. This new God was very random and I didn't quite understand what she was implying. (moreover, what was Pheles and Johan supposed to represent here?) Alas, we get to the most confusing piece, the Tomogara's change in decision. I don't understand why they changed their mind and wished for the world the Flame Haze rewrote. It makes zero sense to me. Khamsin's death was very touching and he was a character I personally enjoyed, but overshadowed by the rest of this confounding episode, I would say episode 24 is going to have to pull something amazing out to salvage this series. And the fight shown in the previews doesn't look like that'll salvage anything. Why are they still fighting?

 
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JC staff is kinda rushing all their projects till the point the story dont make sense
 
Mar 19, 2012 9:26 PM
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One thing that was never answered for me, what was Lamies/Spiral Organ doing with Bal Masque? I remember that he stated that he would be helped in his goals by following Snake of Festival but I can't remember it being explained what his goal was and why he was collecting torches in season 1. Can anyone explain what is going on with his character?
 
Mar 19, 2012 9:38 PM

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So...anyone have any idea why Shana is still going to fight Yuji? The shit is out of the way so WTF? She still butt hurt or something?


Their own personal issues; people gotta sort out their stuff; you can't honestly expect them to simply shake hands and call it a day after what they went through; people aren't so simple like i've said again and again; people who criticize the show can make the decisions sound stupid by some of the characters, and they very well maybe but people can go stupid under pressure, its realistic in that sense.

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One thing that was never answered for me, what was Lamies/Spiral Organ doing with Bal Masque? I remember that he stated that he would be helped in his goals by following Snake of Festival but I can't remember it being explained what his goal was and why he was collecting torches in season 1. Can anyone explain what is going on with his character?


Explained next episode i'm sure, with the much anticipated Yuji x Shana ending.
 
Mar 19, 2012 9:44 PM

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A much better episode. I was pleased that Yuji's plan came together and he got the respect of the Snake of the Festival for his ideals. Felt that he had really accomplished something there. Was really nice seeing Bel-Peol soften up a bit, even to Yuji himself.

I have alot of time for Bal Masque and its members and it's sad that it has been disbanded. However Sydonay remaining is a nice sight to behold and he will be a powerful ally in the final battle no doubt. I felt for the poor guy when Hecate finally disappeared. I will miss her too no doubt. =(

Khamsin dying, cant say I care. He was never a particularily interesting character anyway so it's no real loss here. I suppose it's all for the greater good and all but I cant say I've enjoyed how biased the show has been towards the Flame Hazes all throughout. I mean we lost at least half of the relevant characters on the side of the Tomogara's including Dantalion who had been here since the first season yet the Flame Hazes lose Khamsin while the rest are impregnable to harm.

I dont know, on the whole I have not enjoyed this season at all, however this episode was decent as there was some recompense for all the death and destruction that the Tomogara suffered for the last 10 or so episodes.

Did anyone else find it ironic that that crying bitch didnt shed a single tear as Khamsin died? That's some screwed up morals right there. >>


 
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Mar 20, 2012 3:37 AM

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Ending was abrupt; we have 5 and a half episodes of war and half an episode where it suddenly ends. They should have ended the war more gradually. This new God was very random and I didn't quite understand what she was implying. (moreover, what was Pheles and Johan supposed to represent here?) Alas, we get to the most confusing piece, the Tomogara's change in decision. I don't understand why they changed their mind and wished for the world the Flame Haze rewrote. It makes zero sense to me. Khamsin's death was very touching and he was a character I personally enjoyed, but overshadowed by the rest of this confounding episode, I would say episode 24 is going to have to pull something amazing out to salvage this series. And the fight shown in the previews doesn't look like that'll salvage anything. Why are they still fighting?


The new god was supposed to be random. In episode 20, Ernest (Flame Haze in white) trapped Rofocale (traveling musician) in an illusion. Rofocale was actually a servant of the new god. And the Flame Hazes wanted to use him to summon Shaher (god) on their side by announcing the ban on eating humans in Xanadu but Rofocale said it wasn't enough to summon her.

Enter the Engage Link (Johan & Pheles), Johan was slowly dying inside the Reiji Maigo. Back in Season 2, he told Pheles to make preparations for something and that something has to come to fruition here in Season 3. Since Johan was dying, he and Pheles decides to combine their existence in a glass bottle ( Kazumi Yoshida was seen carrying and protecting it). They're also using the available PoE, which is a lot, to make an offspring. That got the attention of Shaher whom only comes when something new is discovered.

The Tomogara were tired of fighting. They've been fighting for over thousands of years. They just wanted to end it.
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Mar 20, 2012 9:03 AM

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Looks like many can't follow the plot.
Fuc*ing awesome ep for me. 10/10!
 
Mar 20, 2012 9:03 AM

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thx for explaining that, i totally could not understand while watching it...

i guess it also means the anime did not do a good job of telling the story properly, still i like the eps as it gives a conclusion to the whole Xanadu thing

next eps they better tell us what is Yuji's real wish
 
Mar 20, 2012 10:01 AM

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Really sad Khamsin die, damn his like the best character that they developed this season. Anyways whats up with the engaged link? Whats their purpose can someone tell me? I really dont get their purpose at all
 
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Damn, Sairei no Hebi is such a cool character... orb... thing.
I'm sad that he exited the stage, but I hope he lives a happy life.

Kamshin dying was sad, mostly because the superior Yoshida cried for him.
 
Mar 20, 2012 2:21 PM

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Why are Shana and Yuji fighting in the previews? What is there for them to fight for?

This series doesn't make any sense.
 
Mar 20, 2012 3:04 PM

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Why are Shana and Yuji fighting in the previews? What is there for them to fight for?


Wouldn't it be better to wait for the next episode for the answer.
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Mar 20, 2012 4:20 PM

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So they jammed everything into one episode while they could have made it more times better with more episodes? And all this happened because they wasted too much time and money on S1 and S2?

Well, I guess that is what I get when people just want to see "OMG Shana is CUTE!"


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For my part I totally loved this season of SnS and think it is the best of all.
WHY you ask?
--> because there was nearly no Yoshida Kazumi Screentime and not Yoshida x Yuji interaction YAY !!!!!
The only thing I didn't liker in the first two seasons was Yoshida.
She is the most annoying character I know.

So all we need is our Shana X Yuji ending :-)
 
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So they jammed everything into one episode while they could have made it more times better with more episodes? And all this happened because they wasted too much time and money on S1 and S2?


Yup.

I'm just glad they didn't give Shana the Zero no Tsukaima Final treatment.
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One thing that was never answered for me, what was Lamies/Spiral Organ doing with Bal Masque? I remember that he stated that he would be helped in his goals by following Snake of Festival but I can't remember it being explained what his goal was and why he was collecting torches in season 1. Can anyone explain what is going on with his character?


As long as J.C. staff find the time it should be explained in the first minute or so
 
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at the first half I was quite angry that I didn't get what happened, but as the things started to make sense I was quite happy, a great scene in the second half ;)
 
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For my part I totally loved this season of SnS and think it is the best of all.
WHY you ask?
--> because there was nearly no Yoshida Kazumi Screentime and not Yoshida x Yuji interaction YAY !!!!!
The only thing I didn't liker in the first two seasons was Yoshida.
She is the most annoying character I know.

So all we need is our Shana X Yuji ending :-)


Hahahahahahahahahaha This, this and this SO MUCH THIS XD! I wholeheartedly agree with this! Yoshida got barely any screen time which i LOVED this entire season!
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Ahri said:
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For my part I totally loved this season of SnS and think it is the best of all.
WHY you ask?
--> because there was nearly no Yoshida Kazumi Screentime and not Yoshida x Yuji interaction YAY !!!!!
The only thing I didn't liker in the first two seasons was Yoshida.
She is the most annoying character I know.

So all we need is our Shana X Yuji ending :-)


Hahahahahahahahahaha This, this and this SO MUCH THIS XD! I wholeheartedly agree with this! Yoshida got barely any screen time which i LOVED this entire season!


your reason for liking it is rather odd XD
 
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......It seems to me that the Flame Haze is the bad guy lol....
The God of creation & yuji goal has been the same all the long
The flame haze has been trying to destroy their plan and goals and den now Xanadu is finally cr8 and all the denizen went dere and they say it is not a bad result
WTF? So they has been sending flaze hazes to death w/o any meaning in those previous battles?
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Wow, when Aizen... I mean, that Hebi god or something left Yuji's body, I was afraid that he will lose his bishouneness... Good thing he didn't!
Really, I'm sad that side I was cheering have left.
Khamsin~... I loved this character since first season, why couldn't it be some of randoms or gods or whatever T_T
Okay, so next episode is last... I don't really feel this season, TONS of randoms were fighting, taking break for talk and after then guess what? Another pointless fight. Jeez.
But, let's see how it will end.
 
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......It seems to me that the Flame Haze is the bad guy lol....
The God of creation & yuji goal has been the same all the long
The flame haze has been trying to destroy their plan and goals and den now Xanadu is finally cr8 and all the denizen went dere and they say it is not a bad result
WTF? So they has been sending flaze hazes to death w/o any meaning in those previous battles?
You know, I'm sure more Flame Haze would have been willing to let the Tomogara off the hook if they, I duno, hadn't massacred a shit load of them right after announcing Xanadu. You don't get to do that and still say you are fighting for peace and love and rainbows (and that the new humans of Xanadu won't be harmed by the Tomogara).....no one would believe you.

 
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Well the flame haze will was enforced in the end by the 3 gods killing as it made sure no humans eaten in new world and thus creation of destruction energies.

Series I felt was kinda random but good action/bgm
 
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I can only assume this is something that will be answered in episode 24 but...just to review (correct me if/where I am mistaken):

- Sakai Yuji's continued existence is possible through the Reiji Maigo, which replenishes his power of existence each midnight, preventing him from disappearing like other torches.
- Reiji Maigo, as we learned in episode 23, accomplished this by gathering power from the "repulsive forces distortions have as a result of dislocations in the world" created by Tomogara devouring humans
- As part of their plan to create Xanadu, Yuji/Serpent absorbed "a limitless number" of dislocations that existed in the world and used that power to create Xanadu
- Also as part of their plan, all Tomogara left this world, thus removing the potential for future disturbances created by Tomogara

Summary: So, the show seems to be implying that all distortions of the world have been used, thus the power source for Reiji Maigo has been eliminated, as well as the potential for any future sources of power. This should mean that Yuji no longer can have his power of existence replenished by Reiji Maigo, and thus will gradually fade away like other torches.
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That was a good episode, I liked the outcome... I wonder what'll happen in the next episode...
 
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T_T Khamsin.... I almost cried
I really enjoyed his seiyuu, Junko Minagawa, throughout the seasons. Great role for her :3
Great episode, 5/5
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NOOOO T__T IT ALL ENDS TOMORROW
 
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There, there. As a certain lyrical mahou shoujo once said, "A goodbye is not an end. It is a new beginning." I <3 Shakugan no Shana
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Khamsin :( good man, my eyes was getting watery when he was giving his last words and fading away. Going to miss this guy.

Great episode, Xanadu is finally created and even with that last trump card Yuji wasn't able to stop the flame hazes. Looks like those brutal massacres and endless fighting really got to the tomogaras and they accepted the flame haze's rule of never eating humans again. Glad to see it end this way.

:O So that vial that Engage Link created is going to be a new being and a heir to both Johan and Pheles? Wow that's pretty sweet tbh, looks like they got their wishes.

NOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo tomorrow is when it all ends, I can't believe it; no more heavy anticipation weeks after weeks. :( Shakugan no Shana will be missed dearly. Shana vs Yuji last battle, cmon I hope everything turns out good and they'll be together.
 
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You do realize that your entire argument for not liking it is based on your simple lack of intellectual ability to keep up right? or am i wrong? you lose track of names and people and can't follow the story; granted i will give you the fact that's it a lot of characters but if you pay attention you would see that plenty understand the story just fine; you just don't put the effort to.

They had a lot to cover so it turned out this way; and in all honesty its a lot better then what ZnTF did which also had a lot to cover but instead of doing this screwed over the story line (not to mention there season was too short to begin with); aside from all that if you are going to dislike something but all means do so; its your opinion that you are entitled to, but you should give better reasons then "i don't understand" or "i can't keep up"; I also really dislike the four "gods" but every show has crap characters; if you let a few characters bring down a show then i don't know how you watch anime; especially since they aren't even main characters.

"You do realize that your entire argument for not liking it is based on your simple lack of intellectual ability to keep up right? or am i wrong?"

To be perfectly fair, yes you are wrong on that part. Thinking there are too many unimportant characters to digest doesn't just have to do with one's ability to keep up. While the LN might not suffer as much from it as the anime does, a larger amount of characters usually mean less focus on each and every one of them. The more they are, the less screen time they all get. That's simple logic, unless you stuff all of the characters into every scene... which would suck. Of course, an increased amount of episodes could also solve such a problem. But being limited to 24 episodes, it is understandable that some people are annoyed by a large new cast taking up screen time that could have been used to further develop the characters the show already had.

Yeah, sure... the LN the anime is based off might have these characters and so the anime "had to" include them all. But that doesn't automatically excuse everything and make the anime more enjoyable - especially if you haven't read the LN, it can easily be a bit of a pain.

So speaking of the anime as a "stand alone", yes it is perfectly understandable for someone to dislike a massive new cast showing up out of nowhere. It can be hard to digest a big new cast because you actually have to "get to know" and "like" those new characters for the show to be fully enjoyable.

This certainly isn't the worst anime of the season - I agree with that, and especially ZnTF has managed to disappoint me a whole lot more. But I do personally think that both S1 and S2 were much better.

Finally, regarding crap characters - 99% of the shows do indeed have a few crap characters, but not ALL of them do. There's still a golden 1% of the animes that only have good/decent characters. Not trying to argue that you should only watch those 1% - most of the really good animes have some crappy characters - I just felt like being a bit of an ass and point out that "most" but not "every" anime has crap characters. =D
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Pretty alright ep. Wonder how they finish it next week???
 
Mar 23, 2012 7:37 PM

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Finally I understand the story. Well most of it. They could have done it earlier, explaining all that about what the Engage Link were doing, what Snake was fighting for, how that meshes with Yuji's plan. But now that's out of the way, this episode was totally awesome. The right balance of action, story, and story that we can actually understand.

I hope the last episode does it well. I'm very worried for Syndonay though. Staying back with Yuji even though his master has left, I hope the gate to Xanadu isn't closing off anytime soon.
 
Mar 23, 2012 10:36 PM

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game8910 said:
. Engage Link's plans are revealed


What was the plan?
 
Mar 24, 2012 2:02 AM
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SwordWielder said:
game8910 said:
. Engage Link's plans are revealed


What was the plan?
They wanted to create an offspring ussing the excess energy left behind by the creation of Xanadu. That's what Yoshida Kazumi keeps carrying around (well, technically that's also the Engage Link's souls but yeah, offspring).

 
Mar 25, 2012 1:19 PM
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It's time for the finale, cant wait! >:D
 
Mar 26, 2012 5:59 PM

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It was such an awesome episode. I love how Xanadu was created, it surprised me that tomogara agreed with the change. Kamshin's death was so sad...the four god flame hazes were indeed so annoying, wish they died instead of kamshin. Seirei no hebi was really fond of Yuji. I didn't get the other god's prophecy. So, Pheles and Johan had a child...how?
 
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When I first heard that Khamsin had died, I was immensely saddened...he was definitely one of my favorite Flame Haze for his backstory and calm demeanour. But having actually watched the episode, I've reconciled with the fact that he's died...the writers did an excellent job of sending him off with a martyr's death. He was the oldest Flame Haze, after all; and nothing lasts forever.

Although I'm still mad that all of this could've easily been prevented. Yuji has a lot to answer for.
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'I met many people. We were separated. And then reunited. This tune contains all those feelings.'
- Nanaka Yatsushiro, Myself;Yourself, Episode 13
 
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