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Apr 4, 2012 2:04 AM

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Nice episode, next episode will be the last (perhaps some OVA later when BD comes out).
I'm looking forward to some answers and what kind of ending it'll be.
I still think the first 2 seasons were a lot better than this.
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Apr 7, 2012 3:07 AM

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And so the war ends with the objectives of both sides achieved. The new world Xanadu is created, as the goal of the God of Creation, Bal Masque and the Tomogara. A natural law that prevents Tomogara from eating humans in Xanadu has been incorporated, as the goal of the God of Destruction and the Flame Haze.

A seemingly win-win end to the war for both sides, not bad. However, while the war has ended, it seems Shana and Yuuji's own battle is not yet over... and Sydonay surprisingly stays behind with Yuuji even after the God of Creation has left him.

It was also interesting to briefly see a flashback cameo of Asiz and Tis.
Apr 8, 2012 12:10 AM

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Damn good episode. Looks like SnS 3 is sometimes capable of being absolutely awesome.

So sad to see Khamsin die. He was one of my favourite characters. At least his death was semi-epic so I can't complain. Made me like him even more.
Apr 9, 2012 8:56 PM

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MasterMeNL said:

I still think the first 2 seasons were a lot better than this.

Same, and I didn't even like the first two seasons.

I am glad there is only one more left, in any case.
Apr 11, 2012 11:54 AM

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Why Kamshin? He was such a badass, one of my favorites in the anime. He will be missed :(

Nice episode, I was a little afraid when Yuji said that everything they did failed and it depended on the Tomogara's wish. It was both sad and nice to see that the Tomogara actually wished for the law to be integrated.
Yuji still wanting to fight Shana seems a bit pointless to me. I thought it wasn't gonna be a real fight at first but even Sydonay said he would remain to fight. Well, we will see what they meant.
I also don't really understand what the being created by Pheles and Johan might be, apart from being their "child". Maybe they want to get the two worlds closer to each other?

Only one thing remains. A Shana x Yuji ending. I sure hope it will happen after 72 episodes.
May 11, 2012 7:52 PM

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I almost lol'd when they say "even a God acknowledged" with the hybrid child.

Not much else was said about this newborn tho. Maybe they'll go over it in the final episode.

And wow, I just saw a creation of a new world. Wow.
May 17, 2012 7:13 PM

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Khamsin ;_____; He was always one of my favorites from the very beginning. His death sure was handled nicely too.

I really liked this episode, maybe because it's nice to finally have the other world created. Or actually the fact that it was made! Congratz Snake dude. Although it was revealed some time ago that the Flame Hazes had no interest in stopping the creation, it just seems like something that would still be stopped somehow and I couldn't drop that thought.

Anyway, time to see how this ends...
May 28, 2012 6:59 AM

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I was always wondering why it was such a bad thing for the flame hazes that Xanado would be created. It wold be hilarious if flame hazes would just get normal jobs from now on like working on the streets XD.

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Jun 3, 2012 2:56 PM

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oh boo hoo one lame Flame Haze was lost. It should have been a lot more with the scale of war. Too bad it wasn't Shana.

the beginning was weird and confusing. XANADU! Well it was nice seeing it created.

Yuji was pretty cool in the end. I don't want to watch the last ep, because it's probably going to be some lame cheesy Yuji/Shana get back together crap.

the 4 "Gods" were still some of the worst, and unlikeable characters created.
Jun 29, 2012 6:51 PM

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Well this one took me by surprise, much better episode then the previous ones. Kamshin's death was pretty heartening to see since we been following him from the entirety of the series and it was sad seeing Yoshida see him die right in front of her eyes.

Thee creation of Xanadu and the god of creation ambition has finally been fullfilled, ending the war and all of the tomagara go to the new world.

STill i would of liked get a little more insight on that new GOD that appeared and had the power to change the rules of the world. THis episode was very complex and confusing, because everyhing building towards it was just so cloudy and hard to understand through this season. But i did appreciate the fact that they did a good job this time of explaining the current events.

Onto the last episode and i can finally close my chapter on shakugan no shana.
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Aug 14, 2012 8:20 PM

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We have one ep left of the whole 3 seasons and if it isn't all about Yuji and Shana's love for each other I'll be so annoyed.
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Dec 23, 2012 2:00 PM

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I just realized that this whole fight is blatantly pointless. If only both sides talked about this.

Though I feel relieved that those Guze No Tomogara can feel peace on the 2nd world. :D

Dec 28, 2012 3:23 PM

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does anyone know what is the piano song played on the scene when Khamsin dies please (around 21') ?
I really can't find it -.-
Mar 21, 2013 2:00 AM

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Sa-chan_ said:
I just realized that this whole fight is blatantly pointless. If only both sides talked about this.

Though I feel relieved that those Guze No Tomogara can feel peace on the 2nd world. :D

Tennouji said:
I just realized that this whole fight is blatantly pointless. If only both sides talked about this.

Though I feel relieved that those Guze No Tomogara can feel peace on the 2nd world. :D

i ton't believe that the Hazes side wold have listen to their plan, they wold have stopped them & they wold have succeeded, that's why this plan had to be secret!!!
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Mar 26, 2013 3:48 PM

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Can somebody...anybody...tell me the name of the song that plays while the Old Man dies? I've been searching for a couple Shana tracks from the OST, but I can't seem to find them. I've heard almost every last one of them, and yet I still can't find anything that is stuck in my head.

This is one of the few which scene I know by heart, so is anyone can tell me the name of the song that plays at the end of the Old Man's life, i would be forever in you debt....
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Sep 9, 2013 8:12 AM

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This was actually good! I am glad Yuuji won, the 'bad guys' got a good ending :D!
Probably the only episode i enjoyed this season :|
Modified by Aozure, Sep 9, 2013 8:23 AM
Sep 15, 2013 2:39 PM

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1 more episode :(
Nov 13, 2013 7:47 AM

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Kudos Yuji, you won.

I told you all to have faith in the denizens.

Khamsin lived a very long life and was there for the final battle, he was great but I can't think of a better time or reason for him to die.

Wait, why do Yuji and Shana have to fight now?
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Dec 6, 2013 11:27 AM
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Well it was certainly better than the last episode. Hmm, the God of Guidance mentioned a new existence, one of half human half tomogara. That's knd of like what Yuji was in the second season.

Anyway, why would the tomogara suddenly change their mind about eating humans? A few words by a flame haze is enough to overwrite centuries of old habits? And I thought old habits died hard, apparently not.

Final episode incoming, I hope there's enough time for a proper ending but I'm not holding my breath.
Modified by emeraldrosary, Dec 6, 2013 11:50 AM
Feb 11, 2014 12:21 PM

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So this is it... they all got what they wanted. I do wonder though why Shana must fight Yuji again. Guess last episode will tell us that story.
Apr 9, 2014 5:27 PM

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Damn, Kamshin... :'( Rest in piece peace

It's funny to think that everyone was working against the other. So much misunderstanding.... If Yuuji and Shana become a couple, they need to work on the communication xD
It costed the life of a lot of peoples.

So there was a god even more powerful than the Snake of Festival? That was unexpected. Did he called him/her directly from the Guze dimension?
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Oct 30, 2014 8:21 AM

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Yuuji VS. Shana continues [again] for the nth time.

I'm curious about that progeny. Next ep should give most, if not all, the details.
Jan 6, 2015 4:22 PM

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Oh god, rip Kamshin.

He was my favorite flame haze. Almost cried a little :(
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Aug 5, 2015 7:53 PM
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The rule not eating human was implied by Snake of Festival in the first place, JC staff just create some understandable reason for the Flame Haze fight which was suck.
Mar 9, 2017 1:13 PM

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RiP Khamsim, you will be missed and never be forgotten ;_;
Jun 16, 2017 2:58 PM

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Yuji/Hebi succeeded with their plan and seperated from each other.

Khamsin unfortunately didnt make it, I know that I wrote into last episodes thread that losses would be nice, but after this I want him back.

His last moments were heartbreaking :(
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Jul 20, 2017 8:00 AM
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Still not sure why they couldn't have created this new world from their own dimension where Flame Hazes rarely enter instead of starting an all out war against them. Guess they needed to fill 24 episodes with barely enough plot for a film.
Oct 13, 2019 8:26 PM

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*angry sobs*

Jan 28, 2020 7:34 AM

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Linkark07 said:
I gotta give you that confuser, Shana 3 felt the inferior season of the entire 3 and the OVAs. The main characters that we always cared about, Shana, Yuuji, Yoshida and all the others didn't get enough screen time, instead, we are put with characters we don't know nor we care like the nun or all those flame hazes.
Yeah i cannot stand this season. Glad it's almost done. The little boy perished but i don't care about him
Dec 2, 2020 10:37 AM

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The battle is mostly over. I wonder what Yuji meant by saying a lot of work is left for him to do.
The Oracle came out of nowhere. I am not sure if I had heard about this Tomogara before but surely I don't remember it. Maybe what it said convinced all the Tomogara to avoid eating humans and accept the new law in the new world.
Apr 26, 4:27 PM

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Mother of Deus ex Machinas, you came!



Honestly, this was the worst and unsatisfying resolution to whole the conflict. Unsatisfying clusterfuck.
Don't tell me Tomogara actually rejected their nature after one meddling on this behalf. No way would they wish for something like this so readily. Happily ever after, right? /facepalm

Also, Kazumi crying over Khamshin was so forced I can't even... she literally knew him for just few moments and there was no previous developement with them to warrant such feelings. He might have saved her life but it's still bad writing.

Now I hope they won't forget that all Flame Hazes are Tomogara using human existence too, they simply can't stay here either else everything was in vain. And I honestly don't know where they even want to get all the existence to repair the city.... another deus ex machina? Yeah, probably that new Johan's invention.
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