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Aug 30, 2008 4:18 PM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Meh.

It was good enough. Wanted something else not this plot-twist nonsense lol. You know with healers/mages/warriors stuff like that. Oh well I'll find one later.
 
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I thought that was a very unsatisfying ending; so much was not resolved. What about the alien race that was attacking humans before they were put in this matrix? What the hell is Pacifica now? Why did she and Forcis come back to life? Did others come back to life? What about Zefi?

It just felt like they bit off more than they could chew with the story. I'm not sure how they could have convincingly finished it, but just cutting it off by "freeing" humanity by opening the ceiling of the sky didn't feel like an ending to me.
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Aug 4, 2009 8:02 PM

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it was ok... i wanted more, like more about their pasts and stuff and then the aftermath was like rushed and you got nothing of the end story. you could total see the ending coming from like a mile away and so that was kind of annoying. the final battle sens were cool when they went out into space and stuff. but still they needed more stuff about their past! and maybe more on what happens next. but if they added that then it would be to long and it would lose points for that. but i loved the watching it anyway.
 
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Silverhammer said:
What about Zefi?
she was in the ending, helping out at the weapon shop (or w/e it was).

so why wouldn't the aliens just come back and seal them in again? and what about the 3 mechas they built? now that they know how the road to space should be fairly short, after they use them to conquer the world that is. wouldn't Pacifica be hunted still by religious zealots unhappy with the new order and raised up as the Messiah by religious zealots that saw her as the emissary of the new age? there's no way she'd be allowed to lead a quiet life in the country ever again.
 
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Nov 9, 2009 11:17 AM

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Well I can't say I didn't like the series pretty enjoyable although it would have been much better if they added a few more episodes in which they would talk about the human past / the war between the humans and the aliens (why it started in the first place considering that there were no direct attacks of the humans and if the aliens were that evil why would they just seal them off instead of killing them?) and also what about now?
So they managed to break out and?What's stopping the aliens from coming back and sealing them again and/or were/are there any humans left outside the sealed world?
 
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Nov 16, 2009 8:54 AM

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Kinda satisfied with the ending. Lots of thing could have been tied up but they weren't necessary. In the end, all that matters to them was they became free birds and were set free from the bird cage.

Kinda lol at Zefi in her new outfit.
 
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Nov 18, 2009 8:48 AM

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Ending was OK but peaceful life looks very boring ^^ I expecting something like El Cazador's ending where heroines return to bounty hunting busines ^_^

And Zefiris was pretty interesting in new role but with old voice but she... errr... She not kawaii anymore... T_T


Silverhammer said:
What about Zefi?


What about Natali You mean? ^^'

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Nov 24, 2009 9:24 PM

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I also think it would have been interesting to hear more about the past. Based off of what they eluded to throughout this series I think they could easily make a prequel series of another 24 episodes. Action, drama, romance, adventure... Anyone know if the novel goes into greater detail?

As for the future, I think it could be interesting as well but I think the past has more story possiblities.

As for the aliens returning, the human race had been locked away for 5000 years in the medieval era so I would imagine that it would take a while for the aliens to take notice of them again.
 
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LostGamer said:
As for the future, I think it could be interesting as well


I think the future will copy current human histort ^^ First of all without Peacemakers they start war ^^ And it will be future full of wars for new territories ^^
 
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Nobody saw the series as a pretty pretty good saga on politics and a sophisticated discussion on what's the "right thing to do" ?
 
Dec 27, 2009 2:46 AM

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freecat said:
Nobody saw the series as a pretty pretty good saga on politics and a sophisticated discussion on what's the "right thing to do" ?


Sure that aspect was there and it was presented well but not many (including myself) focus their attention on that aspect. Many anime or other shows for that matter have some underlying theme and if the anime is good, as this one is, it conveys that message while still entertaining.
 
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I see. Well the visual part was good, the characters are beautiful, and the animation is good too(though it's not 'expensive' animantion), but I thought all that was secondary and a means to tell a story...
 
Feb 13, 2010 2:25 PM

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LostGamer said:
Sure that aspect was there and it was presented well but not many (including myself) focus their attention on that aspect. Many anime or other shows for that matter have some underlying theme and if the anime is good, as this one is, it conveys that message while still entertaining.


After watching The Sky Crawlers I must say that my opinion on this has changed somewhat. While there did seem to be an underlying message in the Scrapped Princess I don't think it was the primary focus of the creator, but I could be wrong. If it was the focus then it was somewhat diluted in the entertainment factor, at least for me.

I still hope that someday there will be a prequel to this series.

Here is to hoping.
 
Oct 22, 2010 3:22 PM

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I didn't mind the ending...I'm very glad Pacifica was alive at series end...

Though I don't get how. How can a virtual reality world heal a sword wound? Fuck, how did Forsythe live despite not going where Pacifica was?
 
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i liked the ending, but the series as a whole was kinda average.

7/10.
 
Jun 20, 2012 7:58 PM

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Lul, priceless ending. Anyways, this series was alright.
 
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Anime itslef was very good and enjoyable (8/10) only that ending felt bit simple. I felt that there were missing e something like re-discovering old places and knowledges that were long forgotten which would lead to advanced technological development and mixture of sci-fi and medi-evil age themes. Or meeting with humans or allies from outside of sealed world. Unfortunately because of how it ended, concept of so highly advanced technologies that were understood as magic by simple people was wasted by ending suited for usual fantasy concept even though this story was supposed to be in fact sci-fi.
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I enjoyed this series a lot, though it dragged a bit in the middle once they got to the capital. Overall, I thought this ending was just right for the type of material. I don't think all shows should go for the uber epic answer everything big bang, resolve all people's storylines. It's about the story of the Scrapped Princess and her journey with friends. Taken as that, it worked for me. My only guess as to why she and her brother were able to survive is that their blood was mixed and captured by the system (the lines of energy in the temple) and they were re-constituted from that information. No one who died outside of that link were brought back.

Anyways, the story has some similarities to Fred Saberhagen's Empire of the East series. Fantasy stories set in a SF universe where medieval people discover that tech had been transformed into magic by what they thought was a God that was actually a computer and demons were nuclear weapons. Good books, check them out.

In terms of questions about the alien race, Celia answered that partly. They weren't at war with the aliens (or at least it wasn't the aliens that started it), it was humans themselves that was causing the destruction. So the prison is kind of like a holding cell for wild animals who would hurt themselves. Hehe. The aliens believed humans to be an endangered species. The Peacemakers were AI's of human origin, so they developed human emotions--unfortunately they only seemed to pick up the bad ones.

The weakest part for me was the amnesia arc, I'd rather they had set it up so she fell in love with the assassin guy naturally, instead of forcing the setup. They had to do it, because she would have spent the whole time looking for her friends and not relaxing, I just wish it had been done more naturally rather than a contrived amnesia thing.
 
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autisticanime said:
I didn't mind the ending...I'm very glad Pacifica was alive at series end...

Though I don't get how. How can a virtual reality world heal a sword wound? Fuck, how did Forsythe live despite not going where Pacifica was?


I think it was because their blood mixed and started the initiation sequence that released all the locks in the system. Perhaps some nano-tech type disassembly that took her original body apart. When she was rebuilt by the system, his repair was a bonus since he was in the temple and connected by blood to the circuits. But ya, having him be healed too like that is a big stretch.

It's hinted that the whole world they are in has embedded tech (when they use magic, you can see the circuit lines) and mages are just locally over-riding the various protocols that actually run the world behind the scenes. It's like a giant Holodeck the size of a continent.

Personally, I think it would have been funny if Pacifica couldn't fully come back as a human after the transformation and had stayed around as the new Goddess after Mauser leaves. Popping in to tease her friends like a ghost. She'd still be alive, but as a human sentience in the world helping people out. A sequel could be set in ages past when humans only remember her as a Goddess, who died and came back to life absolving them from all their sins.
 
May 31, 2013 8:43 AM
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Great show with a nice ending, Gonna give it an 8/10 probably would've given a nine but there were some filler-ish episodes that I wasn't too keen on like the Elfatine part.
 
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this anime i gave a 6 i really wanted to give it a 9 or 8 but the story was a mess i told my self it will get better but was a let down it had get potential but bad execution B class anime having a class potential sad :(
 
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I just want to know if Pacifica remembered Fulle at the end. It was hinted at, but it could have been taken more than one way. Gosh dang it! If her injuries and her brothers injuries can completely heal then why couldn't Fulle be brought back to life....... huh.... excuse me while I go write fan fiction.
 
Jun 28, 2014 2:31 AM
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Pretty happy ending. I prefer it this way, on a more personal scale, rather than a huge ALIEN INVASION or teh Ultimate Answer sort of thing.

>.> So Fulle is just lost in the land of filler.

I found this anime pretty enjoyable as a whole, though wanted a bit more character development. It certainly didn't turn out how I expected it to he from the start! Once I got used to the shift from magic/swords classic fantasy action to pure mecha, it was good.
6/10
 
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I cannot believe there is no mention of Cin/Cz. what happened to her in the end, really?
 
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freecat said:
Nobody saw the series as a pretty pretty good saga on politics and a sophisticated discussion on what's the "right thing to do" ?

I did.

Lipvinnor said:
I cannot believe there is no mention of Cin/Cz. what happened to her in the end, really?

She died. It was clearly shown in the episode.

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Like others, I have mixed feelings concerning the ending. Of course, there's questions like how did Pacifica (or the Prince for that matter) heal, which could be explained although the show doesn't attempt to. There's also the matter concerning the alien race and what really happened, or for that matter what will happen going forward. Has humanity learned its lesson (supposing it was wrong in the first place)?

Somehow, leaving it at simply freeing humanity feels like a great deal of potential was left untapped. This series certainly could have spawned a number of expansions, both in the form of a prequel and in the form of numerous sequels. Given that it was made over a decade ago now, though, it seems quite unlikely to happen.

Ahh. It was a good show, but I'm sad to see it end here. I'd like to imagine that someday we'll see more. Perhaps Pacifica herself will be a legend by then, in the world growing again ever so slowly.
 
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that she ended up dead is obvious. but why exactly did she stop her peer, and why did she allow shannon to kill her?
 
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Kaeis said:
that she ended up dead is obvious. but why exactly did she stop her peer, and why did she allow shannon to kill her?


I would suppose that the Cin side of her won out in the end.
 
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Lol wow, that tiny piece of land floating in space was what they were living on? That's crazy, there's gonna be so much for them to explore @_@.

This was a decent enough final episode though, lots of questions were left unanswered and some questionable things happened, but overall I'm glad Pacifica and mostly everyone else got a happy ending.

However, I was a little annoyed that they just killed Cz off like that, it just seemed like such a waste. She was honestly my favorite character, so I was really hoping they would do more with her :/. I mean all those scenes where she was following Shannon around, it showed she still cared about him in some way. She also was shown to disagree with killing so many humans, showing sympathy towards them, heck she even questioned killing Pacifica at one point. I was so sure they were gonna have her switch sides and join team Pacifica, but sadly that wasn't the case :<.

But yeah, this series was pretty good. It had its ups and downs, got a little slow at times with some rather fillerish feeling episodes, overall though it was still enjoyable. It would be nice if they made some kinda prequel to explain in more detail about the war 5000 years ago, but sadly that doesn't seem very likely to happen at this point. Who knows though, maybe someday we'll get some kinda continuation or prequel to this series, Id happily watch it if we did.

7/10.
 
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Would have respected series more if they left Pacifica dead, or at least the prince. There was no reason for her to be resurrected. Like many others have said too, what stops the aliens from coming back and resealing up the humans? I suppose they have a whole universe to get through so why would you go back to something you considered resolved, probably though humans would never break out? IDK i shouldn't have to write out plot holes :P that being said, series was still overall enjoyable, ending was bit of a cop out and should have dared to be different enough to make ending bitter sweet with Pacifica freeing the humans from entrapment paying her life to do so.
 
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jacobpaige said:
Silverhammer said:
What about Zefi?
she was in the ending, helping out at the weapon shop (or w/e it was).

so why wouldn&#039;t the aliens just come back and seal them in again? and what about the 3 mechas they built? now that they know how the road to space should be fairly short, after they use them to conquer the world that is. wouldn&#039;t Pacifica be hunted still by religious zealots unhappy with the new order and raised up as the Messiah by religious zealots that saw her as the emissary of the new age? there&#039;s no way she&#039;d be allowed to lead a quiet life in the country ever again.


It has been 5 millenia. The aliens who sealed humanity might not even be around anymore.
 
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So they were on a piece of Earth pulled out from the planet? That was full of Matrix WTF.


With that ending, I dropped this from a 7 to a 6, not for all the world revelations and stuff...no it's for that BITCH Pacifica slapping Leo like that for asking her to marry him. Of all the bitch moves she pulled that was by far the worst. Ugh I almost wanted for Leo to slap her back, but he's too good of a guy.

You're too good for her Leo, let her go.
 
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2 things:

First is: WHAT THE FUCK

What you get when you mix Gurren Lagann, Evangelion, Madoka, JoJo, Hitsugi no Chaika, Fire Emblem, Age of Empires, My Super Sweet 16 and drugs, a lot of drugs?
Scrapped Princess

Second is: Nice show, not the best but 7/10 would watch again.

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What an awful ending. Might as well of been a time reset, the prince is all patched up and stuff too. And all because she hadn't turned 16 yet but almost did she was able to choose what would happen. Perfect lazy way to end a ridiculously lazy story.
I get Pacifica was basically choosing blissful determinism or risky free will, but jesus man, it's as she says "a world anime without choice is just wrong". As in don't use a stupid genes plot device to make the plot move brainlessly, and don't use them / supernatural powers to brainwash the individual choice out of people so brashly you may as well have a bunch of robots.
And it ends with Leo friendzoned forever! And just to add it in here, the cast in this was irredeemably overpowered, and the combat was some of the most boring I've ever seen.

I like the characters, they are really really fun and their interactions are always great, but this was prime example on how to ruin an anime's plot with lazy writing. Lazy is written all over this, well at least in most plot defining moments. The parts around those were generally fun, or at the worst excusable, and the characters felt real and so did their relationships with each other(even if they inevitably were predetermined). I really wish the themes, which were well executed in the beginning followed through, but sadly they did not. We got flaunted creamy good thought provoking themes portrayed through a fun fantasy adventure, and only ever got teased with them after their introductions. Really early threads I had write ups on how fascinating and well done they were, Doyle as a character is still fresh in my mind as one of my favorites because of them, but the themes were hardly explored and certainty didn't ended with satisfying conclusions or messages. If we had more care for those this might be a different story.

If this anime was longer, and didn't use the lazy writing elements I've already mentioned, Scrapped Princess could be really good.
Sadly with how it is, Scrapped Princess is a 5/10.
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I started watching this around ten years ago. I almost forgot to finish it. Now having resumed watching it, it just feels so nostalgic that I can't give it a bad score. Damn nostalgia.
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Happy peaceful ending, quite satisfying to be honest. Although it was a bit weird to see them coming back to live, peacemakers did never show any God level black magic fuckery before; I guess it was something the author just wanted to happen.

I was expecting to see a bit more about the alien race, they didn't show up at any point of the anime and they didn't even represent how they looked lol. Anyways, it wasn't relevant to the plot.
 
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YOU'RE GONNA CARRY THAT WEIGHT


There were times where I started losing interest, but this show was like a roller coaster, things never stopped changing up. I think an extra 20 episodes of world-building and character development could've made this a masterpiece, along with reworking the themes (which is basically cynic justice vs optimistic justice). The lore was interesting and a bit surprising, and I get what it was going for purpose-wise, but the execution wasn't that good. I wish they did more with Raquel, focused a bit too much on Shannon. I also would've liked more Chris too. Also very cruel to Mr. Fulle, he was just helping out! They should've gave him more scenes at least before killing him off.

fedaykin said:
What about the alien race that was attacking humans before they were put in this matrix?

jacobpaige said:
so why wouldn't the aliens just come back and seal them in again?

Mauser was basically serving as the representative of the aliens, so the species was likely reconsidering the whole containment of humanity, and decided to allow them freedom.
freecat said:
Nobody saw the series as a pretty pretty good saga on politics and a sophisticated discussion on what's the "right thing to do" ?

Honestly that was my biggest problem with it. The aliens contained humanity to protect it from destroying itself with advanced technology etc, but Mauser was strangely convinced it was the thoughtful and just action to make, when their reset policy kills the majority of the human race over and over again, which is a pretty enormous genocide and a huge cost to save potential self-destruction. And it's not like the humans aren't still killing eachother and going to war. The lore was interesting for the most part, but Mauser should've seen the containment as a personal decision rather than a merciful one.
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What you get when you mix Gurren Lagann, Evangelion, Madoka, JoJo, Hitsugi no Chaika, Fire Emblem, Age of Empires, My Super Sweet 16 and drugs, a lot of drugs?
Scrapped Princess

I know! This show was consistently strange in subtle ways, more and more so as it went along, like strange changes to pace (like that memory loss x love-triangle arc).
ernst said:
I started watching this around ten years ago. I almost forgot to finish it. Now having resumed watching it, it just feels so nostalgic that I can't give it a bad score. Damn nostalgia.

Same kinda, I started six years ago and finally got back to it.
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I would liked it more if Pacifica stayed dead - or more precisely - as the new "god" of this world.

I would also like to know more about the war between humans and the aliens. Was it some Gubuster-like thing, that human race was considered a disease or something completely different?

And why didn't Cz/Cin change the sides? It was hinted so many times that she would do so...
 
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