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Mar 23, 2012 4:02 PM

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Sleep-inducing.It's standard anime conventions from start to finish. Predictable, bland and without any passion. Not even the uneventful but enjoyable type of slice of life because there's not a single fresh idea. I get the impression the creators were forced to do this.
Mar 27, 2012 11:11 PM
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fuckkk they shoulda been together
Mar 30, 2012 8:29 PM

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Eh, I liked the light novel much better than the movie adaptation. Some good parts of the story from the novel were changed, rushed, and even skipped. The story was also seemingly very boring and bland without the character development you were given from the novel.

Although I guess the aerial fight animation scenes were pretty cool.

Modified by SacredFactor, Mar 30, 2012 8:35 PM
Apr 4, 2012 4:03 PM

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that was pretty good. I liked the main male lead, but the overall story...etc was kinda bland. I loved the music and character designs. 7/10

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May 6, 2012 9:20 PM

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What the hell did I just watch?
I haven't read the novel but my comment about the movie is.
no story, no music, no characters.
May 31, 2012 10:56 AM

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I doubt I would throw away all the gold he and she worked hard for.
Jul 1, 2012 10:29 AM

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Liked it, but there was something missing about this movie.
Maybe the novel is better (?)
Well I hope that gon' have a good life.
But I doubt it for the pilot since he throw all the gold :P
Aug 5, 2012 4:46 AM

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In my opinion...

Produced by renowned Japanese animation studios Madhouse and TMS Entertainment, Toaru Hikuushi e no Tsuioku [known to the non-Japanese viewer as “The Princess and the Pilot”] is deservedly situated within the small aggregation of anime with which I both solemnly and proudly affirm myself an adherent thereof. Disregarding outright the conspicuous errors effectuated by director Shishido Jun, screenplay writer Okudera Satoko, and lead-role voice actors Taketomi Seika and Kamiki Ryunosuke (certainties, to a degree, with which many of the film’s discontented viewers repeatedly refer to so as to “validate” their own adverse opinions), this movie, in a manner which involves the requirement of prodigious caliber, managed to exhibit certain, defining elements - elements pertaining to the attentive detailing stressed upon the creation of its visually appealing scenes, in the development of its lead characters, and, most importantly, in the execution of its plot.

Titles like this, despite their flaws, are what motivate me to watch anime. For me, Toaru Hikuushi e no Tsuioku is deserving of a 6 out of 10.
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Sep 11, 2012 9:03 PM
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I dont even know what to say! this story is rife with cliches and, wholly feels like they are prodding a fully milked-and dead cow with a stick trying to make it get up and get back to work.

the execution is sub par, as if they were playing a game of "pin the overused trope on the anime" or something like that. from the chance childhood meeting of the two kids, to the overly and overtly genki friends, to the "love that can never be", to the rapidly changing personality of the princess, to the sheer boringness of charles' character. all of it has been done before, and almost any other show out there has done it better. and while all of this may be bad, what really gets me is the whole idea of Charles as a "bestado", the lowest caste in the levamme empire.

The idea of the lower caste character has been done well before. just look at Suzaku from Code Geass. the creaters wove a real conflict between Suzaku's goals, and his status as a "lowly Eleven". interactions are done extremely well in that show, and this status defines him. in this anime however, the idea of the Bestado doesnt fit in well at all, and seems like the writers wanted to include an extra obstacle in Charles' path to love.

to start, the whole idea of the Bestado isnt really explained at all, and apparently all we need to know is that Charles is of the lowest class, a hated "sewer rat" who lies, cheats, and steals to make a living. But looking at him, or even looking at the story, you'd never expect it. this guy seems like a perfectly normal person, completely unaffected by all the things that happened to him in the past, no hatred for anyone, just brushes off taunts

the reason why this idea fails is because every time his class status is mentioned, there is always a character telling us why the world hates him. they never show his plight to anyone. we dont even know what the qualifications for bestado status are, or even why it is so bad. If the creators have ever written a college essay or even seen code geass, or some other similar anime with good execution, they would know that you are supposed to "show dont tell".

it is so poorly executed in the anime, in fact, that taking out this minor plot point would barely affect the direction of the story at all. this is supposed to serve as a sort of "class based love affair that can never happen", but it would be almost exactly the same if he were just a simple citizen/commoner, albeit without the unneeded bullying.

but by far the most Out-of-the-blue thing they do in this anime, and that really set me off, was that these supposedly "high class" people GIVE HIM THEIR PRINCESS, TO FLY ALONE, WITHOUT ESCORT, ACROSS DANGEROUS TERRITORY AND THROUGH ENEMY LINES!" i mean COME ON!!!! WHO THE DEVIL WAS MAKING THIS DECISION? am i missing something here? what kind of general trusts the "lowlife sewer rat" with their princess and expects him to deliver her to the kingdom without all help, in an inferior aircraft, and completely against all odds? DID IT AT ANYTIME CROSS THEIR MINDS THAT THE BESTADO MIGHT STEAL HER AWAY??? there was nothing stopping him! i mean, if he were just a neutral citizen/commoner, i would completely understand that he should do all in his power to deliver her, despite getting none of the credit, but COME ON! EVERYONE HATES HIM! he could just hightail it away somewhere else and start a life with her. thats what she wanted. and then he could have had a princess and no money, versus having no money and no princess and dying like a dirty dog. oh yea, which brings up ANOTHER CLICHE. the honorable and morally good anime character that just doesnt make the right decisions! none of it fits within the context of the show, and contributes next to nothing to the story. add in some dumb samurai pilot, a bunch of ships, and a cursory glance at some falling dudes in an attempt to humanize the enemy, and you have this anime, a steaming pile of poorly written jank.

overall, trying to stuff a bunch of romantic cliches into an already milked-dry and dead cow is not going to yield delicious milk, and this anime is the poster child for that fear. apparently someone thought that they could teach us a lesson that things are not like the movies, but in overusing tons of ideas from previous shows, they cause this one to just flop right on its face, effectively eliminating the hour and a half worth of enjoyment you may get from it.

on a positive note though, the art was pretty nice.

Overall: 6/10
Sep 12, 2012 10:46 AM

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Honestly it was that good i felt i had to post.

Personally i think she suited short hair, it was actually that imagine and the description of her that made me watch it and glad i did, very enjoyable. I'm also certain i have heard her voice in something before, not looked her up but i'll be suprised if it turns out i haven't.

Only gripe and after reading some posts and learning it had a novel i feel i cant complain as much about is that nothing happened between them. So much chemistry you were dying to see something happen and yet it never came, though his ending gesture was very well done. I did picture her jumping off the airship or falling like she did so many times before. Though this time leading to him catching her and escaping together or maybe eloping is better word choice :)

Though as i say since it came from a novel even if i haven't read it i don't like when they make big changes like that, so it's left just as wishful thinking. I do accept minor changes do happen and sometimes have to happen as somethings just don't work as well on screen as they do in a book.

I gave it a 9, would of been a 10 had they eloped :) i'm still running on the high of having watched something great and it's shows like this that make watching anime so enjoyable
Oct 5, 2012 10:13 PM
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Just finished this movie tonight and hmm...

The princess Fana looks graceful but for some reason, I hate that Carlos or w/e his name in the red suit. He looks generic and boring. Pretty tragic opening there in the beginning though with that sudden attack.

I like the theme of aviation in the series before as I rarely watch anime involving airplanes as opposed to space crafts. Fana needs to stop falling to the damn sea so much though LOL, it's almost embarrassing to watch. I liked her and Charles' interactions though ^__^

Charles got some pretty epic aviation skills though when he guided and avoided the missiles.

Regarding Fana's hair..I liked that she decided to cut it when they arrived on that island. She just looks so much natural that way. The dance was pretty funny lol, they should of kissed :P

Anyways, this was a great movie and I enjoyed it quite a bit. 8/10

I wonder how much gold that was in the air
Oct 12, 2012 4:37 PM

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I didn't expected to enjoy it like that !! :D
Well, truth to be told, I would have slightly prefered if they ended together, but unexpectedly enough, I liked too this bitter sweet ending ! *-*
Guess it's Okey to have this kind of ending from time to time ^^
10/10 For me !
Oct 13, 2012 11:30 AM
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Pretty good movie. Nice to see a aviation one once in a while. All Dat gold flying in the air OH MAN!
Also Fana falling into the sea way too many time. I was laughing my ass off everytime she did, and the action and aviation skills were nice to see.
Nov 16, 2012 4:50 AM

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The animation and the music were ok, not too good not too bad, mediocre if I may.
I think the voice acting was fit for the characters, surely it lacked emotion but we're talking about a girl who only speaks when allowed to and a guy treated like pariah since birth...
The movie was actually almost enjoyable( yay lets send the future queen over the ocean without any guard whatsoever, oh and did we mention that our best team died there? ) to a point, that damned island. The first thing you do when you get on a deserted island within enemy territory is cutting your hair(ok, fine she tended to his wounds first but still...) because "it was in the way" ... oh and later lets all cry about someones dead mother then get drunk and dance, yeah, romance at it's best.
The ending was stupid, she married a fancy prince and became a boring queen and he gave up his newly-acquired wealth for making her happy for like 5-10 minutes. And after that he goes back to being trash. Though the cliches were so abundant that i could barely think of crying between the WTFs. 5/10
Nov 24, 2012 10:47 PM

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The somewhat downer ending totally does makes sense. She's a princess; she can't just run away. I really loved the atmosphere of this movie. The characters weren't all that great, partly due to the voice acting, but they were cute together. Animation was beautiful - thank you Madhouse!
Dec 10, 2012 6:25 PM

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there prob wouldn't be a second sequl BUT I WANT ONE!!!!!!!
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Dec 25, 2012 5:49 PM

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loved the soundtrack an the characters
Mar 22, 2013 4:58 AM

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The movie was entertaining. Although the ending was not what I hoped for (was hoping for a more romantic feel ending), it's very much realistic. He still did what's best for the girl, even sacrificing his own happiness for it. I guess you can't always have your "happily ever after" endings.

Still, good movie, good movie! 8/10
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Apr 11, 2013 12:39 AM

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This was way too cheesy and tired out in a bad way. It made me want to watch something like... Top Gun or Princess Bride instead.
Apr 18, 2013 4:25 PM

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Absolutely beautiful movie, I loved it! I actually found the voice acting refreshingly different from what I'm used to and it was by no means bad, I actually liked it relatively much :)

The movie was well paced, the action parts were done really well and I didn't get bored during the break times either. I'm debating whether I should give this 9/10 or even 10/10. This surpassed my expectations by far, even though I already was expecting quite much from it. Very well worth my time, I'm glad I watched this movie ^^
May 21, 2013 3:08 PM

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8/10 . Something was definitely missing. Probably the good ending where Charles and Fana would've end up together .
Oct 20, 2013 1:23 PM

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Oh this was so retarded, so many inconsistencies!
Like the gold at the end, the airship was moving forward very quickly as it was flying back to base, yet the gold (which is supposed to fall quickly) acted more like feathers with 0 km/h wind. The gold should've raped her face when it hit her with 100km/h.
The way the plane flew was just bullshit and a lot of magic unexplained stuff everywhere.
Not to mention the lamest ending ever.

3/10, because it's just failing hard at what it's trying to do and it's really, really disappointing.
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Dec 19, 2013 9:51 AM

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I liked that movie but the ending is sad :| 8/10 Seriously the movie was great :3

Dec 24, 2013 3:24 PM

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The movie didn't differ from others for its own good in any way.
I felt sorry for the pilot but couldn't care less for the heroine.
Jan 19, 2014 4:19 AM
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One of the best movies I ever seen. 9/10
Feb 2, 2014 4:04 AM

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That was a nice movie 8/10 ^^. Really enjoyable.
Feb 24, 2014 4:45 PM

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I watched this after starting to watch The pilot's love song. It was better than I thought it'd be.

The prince sounds like a total fool. Was hoping he wouldn't end up with Fana from the start, because he really had zero character development other than make him out to be a total imbecile.

After hearing the story about Charle's mother being thrown out of the manor, I'm quite glad that Fana's father died.

That dogfight duel that intense. It was the highlight of the film for me.

That F***er that pointed his gun at Charles, not only hit him, but then literally lined his pockets with his reward? Was hoping Fana would use her position to take his gun, make him kneel, and shoot him with it.
Also, gold dust!? What an impractical currency system.

Dammit Fana
-2 out of 10 for that. So my score for this movie is 7/10, because at least one more person should have died.

As for the "mystery" to how they ended up with their lives...I'm hoping she divorces that sorry sack of gold-dusted turd and goes off to find and marry Charles. Fingers crossed that they mention them in the spin-offs.

Side note: whoever said he threw away all his gold? As far as I can tell, all he did was sprinkle it. I won't believe it unless I see the bag itself take flight into the the skies as well.
Feb 25, 2014 3:17 AM

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Toaru Hikuushi e no Koiuta finally made me dig this out of my PTW.

It was a good movie but that ending was depressing. I hope the prince dies during one of the battles to be honest.
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Feb 26, 2014 1:16 PM

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Beautiful movie :) Really loved the OST.

Loved Fana and Charles a lot. Both are lovable characters. Loved their interactions a lot. The fact that there is such racism was depressing.

Fana's development was really great. From being a silent girl that accepts anything her dad says to what she became at the end :D Loved the scene she was drunk in. Really cute :3 Should've kissed though -.- I know they wanted to :P

Charles was BA! How he accepted people calling him filthy dog like nothing was awesome. His flight skills are friggin top notch. Totally loved the tense moment when he was shot and barely surviving. Friggin intense and damn creepy with all those huge ships chasing u appearing out of the clouds so suddenly XD and the duel was epic too. Loved the island part, I would have accepted to elope with Fana XD She's basically confessing to him that she wants to live with him together forever >.<...That's the only thing that annoys me. How the hell is she gonna go back to that loser prince and leave Charles T_T Those 2 are made for eachother >.<

Loved the ending with the gold spreading. Like a BOSS!! Beautiful scene :D

Now, I hope Charles will appear in Toaru Hikuushi's next ep since that was obviously flying the Santa Cruz? Blue seagull last ep ^^
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Feb 28, 2014 2:25 PM

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Watched this because of Toaru Hikuushi :D The plot was pretty straight forward. No real qualms with the show despite some cheesy/cliche moments/dialogue. The action was good. By no means was it a masterpiece but it was enjoyable. 7/10
Mar 9, 2014 1:01 PM

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Loved this movie
but one problem: WHy didnt Fana and Charles end up together??? this is one of the most depressing ends!! the author sucks!
Mar 14, 2014 2:22 AM

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Wow, Charles was pretty much my ideal image of manliness in the end... he literally gave everything he had just so she could be happy. He could have lived a peaceful life of luxury, and left behind all the prejudice people had for him, but instead he chose to be proud of who he was and be better than all of those spiteful racists. He may have given up his biggest chance of happiness, but at least he can die proud of who he was, which was his dream... so it really wasn't a sad ending. Some people might pity him, but I personally envy that he could have the chance to prove his worth like that.

I actually almost cried at the end just because of his integrity.

What is sad though, is that it seems like all of his friends died... which I can't help but feel like that should've been cleared up. Other than that, it was a grade A movie, imo.

I actually really liked the voice acting too. It doesn't matter to me what history in voice acting they might've had... they portrayed the characters' actions/feelings really well.
Apr 1, 2014 6:12 AM

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razorblade81 said:
Enjoyment is off the scale for me. Didn't read the novel but now I want to. I am a sucker for love stories. Wanted her to jump off to his plane at the end. =( oh well. (PS: what the hell is with the Titanic like scene, lol)
Well, it's sad that the LN ended too. Kinda wanted to know what happened to their lives after.
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Apr 1, 2014 11:02 PM

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The spin-off series that just ended made me want to watch this movie. My eyes were glued to the screen the entire time, loved the film. I'm okay with the ending, Typical for a forbidden love type of story but at least Charles got to put on a little show.
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Apr 5, 2014 12:44 PM

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Just finished the TV series and came to check this out and well this movie sure was lovely, it did felt a bit different but you could see that it was set in the same universe which was pretty lovely!

The slight backstories managed to give the characters each a stronger presence and well both characters were actually pretty lovely.

The ending was of course not as many wanted but is still pretty decent I must say and well I liked it, it was cute in its own way and well he did do his job and got paid for it.

All by all a very lovely movie! 7/10
Apr 12, 2014 4:57 AM

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Aw. So they did not end up together? But I still liked it. Realistic.
They were just with each other for 3 days and she is a Princess.

Good! 9/10 :)

May 9, 2014 4:12 AM

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Much better than the TV series imo. I am not a fan of the dramas presented in this movie, the romance was pretty meh too, but I like the male MC. I am pissed at how poorly he is treated. The ending was fine, but I would have liked to know what happened to Charles later.
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The movie didn't feel much like a romance to me, Charles and Fana's interaction felt more of a growing friendship (They did only know each other for 4 days) Which I liked.

which I hope they kept it as that, but the dialogues and their interaction say otherwise.
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May 22, 2014 6:31 AM

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I didn't like the voice acting either for the most part, and the story was pretty cliche as others have stated. Characters were bland and two-dimensional, nothing stood out for me.

I do have to say though, the animation Madhouse has done is once again superb, they very rarely disappoint me, and this movie is no exception. The bombings at the start and the battles in flight were just magnificent!

Overall, 7/10 from me.
May 24, 2014 9:55 AM

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I liked it, the animation and fight scenes were well done. 8/10

I never had a problem with any of the VA, tbh I rarely do. The only VA I found annoying is Narutos but that's probably because I find the character annoying. LOL.

I hate endings like that, at least tell us a bit about what happened to Charles. Not just 'he was never heard of again'.

Also how is this linked to Toaru Hikuushi e no Koiuta? Was it set in the same place but different time?
May 28, 2014 10:29 AM
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Such a nice movie, it is really realistic. The greed, the hate the love... And the animation has been done pretty well.
Aug 8, 2014 8:15 PM

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The battles were short, but intense.

The rest was a bit lacking. The romance wasn't very good.

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Aug 21, 2014 9:55 PM

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Great air battles. I cheered for our Empress when she shot that wing off. So proud.

I felt so sorry for Charles too. :( He did not have a happy life at all.

When the Fana was trying to get the two guards to move, I was thinking she should have said: "When I marry your Prince my first act will be to decapitate you both." But that wouldn't have gone too well.

I want to believe that while he was throwing his gold, some got into everyone's eyes and they were rolling around trying to get it out.

Great movie, great song. Downloading song now.
Dec 14, 2014 3:23 AM

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eh i thought this is older movie from early 2000, turned out it was aired on 2011. I have to say that the graphic quality is....mediocre? .___. but the animation is as smooth as I expected from Madhouse ;) the story itself is fine, nothing too special, but the ending is appropriate, realistic, although I admit that there are several moments that made my heart trembling as I watched it ;__; Solid 7/10 from me.
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Dec 19, 2014 7:03 AM

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Essentially the pilot gets a slap on the ass and a "good game" from the Princess and her escorts. This dude pilot will most likely disappear back into the social sewer with nothing because he threw his vast payment into the sky. The F' kind of ending is this?!

The pilot essentially 'started from the bottom,' and well....he is still at the bottom. I would have liked him and the princess to get together! Or at least give the man a happier ending. Perhaps he gets recognized as a social equal or gets internalized into the royals. But. No. He flies away leaving the audience wondering what he will be up to; most likely still being treated like garbage.

Regardless, I give the film credit. The film was well animated. The sound and aerial dog fights were cool. Beautiful scenery and heart warming characters.
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Jan 4, 2015 11:13 PM

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I started to watch this movie because I've finished the anime "Toaru Hikuushi e no Koiuta".
The story is different, but still good. I would have liked see more of the relation between Charles and Fana. The final scene was beautiful, but how Charles does he have lived if he has scattered all his gold?
Anyway good movie.
Feb 23, 2015 3:14 AM
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that ending lol.

Apr 23, 2015 7:51 PM

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Was decent but...that epilogue really. A big letdown if I've ever seen one. And I've rarely seen them like this.

Was either hoping for both of them to die or get together, and instead we get this bull ;( MC didn't even get much character development I am disappoint. The plot didn't get anywhere; Charles' character felt so vain.

8/10 until the 3 sentence epilogue ruined it for me turning it into a 7/10. Can't even show Charles pimping with the gold in the future T.T

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May 24, 2015 2:28 PM

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First of all, this was better than the anime "The Pilot's Love Song"

Now, as for the movie:

The male MC was that cliche nice guy. He was a bit bland. I also didnt like how they used the cliche of that the male MC is an underdog who comes from a not so established family and everyone hates him for that and keep insulting him. Since they did that, there is no grey area. You know who to root for and whom to not root for.

Just a little pet peeve, but I would have preferred if the male MC had a deeper voice.

I didnt like how in the end, they did a monlogue as to what happened to the main characters..... This is anime..... Not a documentary of something that happened in real life.

I also didnt like how there was NO ROMANCE!!!! Thats the biggest reason why I watched this movie. The princess just wanted the male MC to be her savior, but there was nothing romantic in it!!!!

But is this movie a fun watch? Yes.
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Jun 9, 2015 8:18 AM
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Mediocre movie with every cliche the creators could fill in 2 hours, and all of that mediocrity led to a unsatisfying, terrible ending. The Sky Crawlers was a slightly better movie. Both movies have bad CGI, CGI dogfights in anime are just out of place. They should go the good old way of hand drawn animation on those sequences. The best flying/ace pilot anime is still the Area 88 OVA.
Jun 11, 2015 7:53 AM

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Nice and solid movie for me. 8/10 because it felt nice to watch it. Many other movies alsways have something that is out of place.
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