Toaru Hikuushi e no Tsuioku Episode 1 Discussion
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I would prodly recommend this movie to anyone. I really liked the ending. It's not like in *** shonen where no matter what will happen for example Ichigo will always win.
Anyway we received what we should expect from MadHouse ; )
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It was a pretty good and old school movie, very similar in tone and inspiration to Miyazaki's Laputa and Porco Rosso (several scenes are ressembling those two movies' closely, though not as rip-offish as Hoshi wo Ou Kodomo is compared to Mononoke) with nice direction from a rookie director and a magnificient musical score. I also really liked the two voice actors, they felt very fresh and enthusiastic despite their lack of experience. But with that said, The Princess And The Pilot was also heavily flawed, the script and dialogues were especially contrived and over-played most of the times, plus the animation wasn't that good for an animated feature. Well, let's say it could have been far better but at least it was bright and felt right overall.
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Goddammit I hate endings like this, why can't they be daring and just go off somewhere? I mean, if she didn't show up in time they would assume she had died (after some searching probably) and that be the end of it. It's not like that retarded prince would have cared.
you know, I think that if that happened it would have been less cliche. Pretty much every movie I've seen about romance and different status and whatnot end with them separated. For once I'd like to see a movie that doesn't go that route and actually dares to do something different. Is it the Japanese culture? Living for your country or something?
P.S.: anyone, feel free to send me a PM with a title that has a happy ending for the main pair, e.g. the exact opposite from this one in regards to that.
It's not like in *** shonen where no matter what will happen for example Ichigo will always win.
Anyway we received what we should expect from MadHouse ; )
I've seen more series end with the MC's not getting together than getting together. I personally would love to see a show with a true "happy ending". And I do mean together. Not die together, or thinking about eachother, NO, actually being with the one they love, get kidz and all that shizzle.
I've started first looking at the ending of a show before I begin reading/watching it because I'm sick and tired of getting crap like in this series.
Exactly my thoughts ^_^. I don't know why but japanese don't seem to like happy endings...Do they always think that things will never turn as good as they may want to be ? Happy endings are not cliched since they are pretty rare in animes where life is endangered(exemple Gurren Lagan, Angel Beats,Darker Than Black T_T) or when they want to leave an open ending . As for me this movie was just removed from the list of "have to buy" ... Too bad I really liked the movie, but the ending just made the entire story completly pointless T_T .
Now that was just my thought ^^, everyone has their own taste and I know that many people don't like happy ending like "they lived happily and had many children" ^^.
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I know you're not happy with it, but the spam raging is annoying, stop it.
Agreed it wasent that bad, pretty bittersweet ending. I personally liked the VA's for the lead girl. she did a great job.
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I dont even know what to say! this story is rife with cliches and, wholly feels like they are prodding a fully milked-and dead cow with a stick trying to make it get up and get back to work.
the execution is sub par, as if they were playing a game of "pin the overused trope on the anime" or something like that. from the chance childhood meeting of the two kids, to the overly and overtly genki friends, to the "love that can never be", to the rapidly changing personality of the princess, to the sheer boringness of charles' character. all of it has been done before, and almost any other show out there has done it better. and while all of this may be bad, what really gets me is the whole idea of Charles as a "bestado", the lowest caste in the levamme empire.
The idea of the lower caste character has been done well before. just look at Suzaku from Code Geass. the creaters wove a real conflict between Suzaku's goals, and his status as a "lowly Eleven". interactions are done extremely well in that show, and this status defines him. in this anime however, the idea of the Bestado doesnt fit in well at all, and seems like the writers wanted to include an extra obstacle in Charles' path to love.
to start, the whole idea of the Bestado isnt really explained at all, and apparently all we need to know is that Charles is of the lowest class, a hated "sewer rat" who lies, cheats, and steals to make a living. But looking at him, or even looking at the story, you'd never expect it. this guy seems like a perfectly normal person, completely unaffected by all the things that happened to him in the past, no hatred for anyone, just brushes off taunts
the reason why this idea fails is because every time his class status is mentioned, there is always a character telling us why the world hates him. they never show his plight to anyone. we dont even know what the qualifications for bestado status are, or even why it is so bad. If the creators have ever written a college essay or even seen code geass, or some other similar anime with good execution, they would know that you are supposed to "show dont tell".
it is so poorly executed in the anime, in fact, that taking out this minor plot point would barely affect the direction of the story at all. this is supposed to serve as a sort of "class based love affair that can never happen", but it would be almost exactly the same if he were just a simple citizen/commoner, albeit without the unneeded bullying.
but by far the most Out-of-the-blue thing they do in this anime, and that really set me off, was that these supposedly "high class" people GIVE HIM THEIR PRINCESS, TO FLY ALONE, WITHOUT ESCORT, ACROSS DANGEROUS TERRITORY AND THROUGH ENEMY LINES!" i mean COME ON!!!! WHO THE DEVIL WAS MAKING THIS DECISION? am i missing something here? what kind of general trusts the "lowlife sewer rat" with their princess and expects him to deliver her to the kingdom without all help, in an inferior aircraft, and completely against all odds? DID IT AT ANYTIME CROSS THEIR MINDS THAT THE BESTADO MIGHT STEAL HER AWAY??? there was nothing stopping him! i mean, if he were just a neutral citizen/commoner, i would completely understand that he should do all in his power to deliver her, despite getting none of the credit, but COME ON! EVERYONE HATES HIM! he could just hightail it away somewhere else and start a life with her. thats what she wanted. and then he could have had a princess and no money, versus having no money and no princess and dying like a dirty dog. oh yea, which brings up ANOTHER CLICHE. the honorable and morally good anime character that just doesnt make the right decisions! none of it fits within the context of the show, and contributes next to nothing to the story. add in some dumb samurai pilot, a bunch of ships, and a cursory glance at some falling dudes in an attempt to humanize the enemy, and you have this anime, a steaming pile of poorly written jank.
overall, trying to stuff a bunch of romantic cliches into an already milked-dry and dead cow is not going to yield delicious milk, and this anime is the poster child for that fear. apparently someone thought that they could teach us a lesson that things are not like the movies, but in overusing tons of ideas from previous shows, they cause this one to just flop right on its face, effectively eliminating the hour and a half worth of enjoyment you may get from it.
on a positive note though, the art was pretty nice.
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Just finished this movie tonight and hmm...
The princess Fana looks graceful but for some reason, I hate that Carlos or w/e his name in the red suit. He looks generic and boring. Pretty tragic opening there in the beginning though with that sudden attack.
I like the theme of aviation in the series before as I rarely watch anime involving airplanes as opposed to space crafts. Fana needs to stop falling to the damn sea so much though LOL, it's almost embarrassing to watch. I liked her and Charles' interactions though ^__^
Charles got some pretty epic aviation skills though when he guided and avoided the missiles.
Regarding Fana's hair..I liked that she decided to cut it when they arrived on that island. She just looks so much natural that way. The dance was pretty funny lol, they should of kissed :P
Anyways, this was a great movie and I enjoyed it quite a bit. 8/10
I wonder how much gold that was in the air
Oct 12, 2012 4:37 PM
Oct 13, 2012 11:30 AM
Pretty good movie. Nice to see a aviation one once in a while. All Dat gold flying in the air OH MAN!
Also Fana falling into the sea way too many time. I was laughing my ass off everytime she did, and the action and aviation skills were nice to see.
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