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Feb 24, 2012 2:30 PM

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Aurioch said:
Can I ask kindly of someone to offer me some explanation? From what I understand so far, each of main characters have their "avatar" in the Otherworld and character's emotions and events in real world affect events in otherworld, am I right?

Is that all I should know or there is some deeper connection within worlds and/or characters?
The bellow is all you should know pretty much story-wise at this point. Let me know if there's anything confusing you.

BRSxIgnition said:
I'd just like to voice my opinion on what we know so far, and what I assume is happening.

I believe that the poster "VictimOfFate" has it mostly correct - Saya/BGS is purposefully exploiting the minor worries and weaknesses of these girls to turn them into major disorders. ("Molehills into Mountains.")

She first 'grows' the 'other selves' in the Dark World, and as they - the 'other selves' - grow, they become connected to 'Our World' through people. Once they are connected with the person in our world, it magnifies their emotions, both good and bad - and allows them to build up much more than they usually would. This can be evidenced by Yomi's breakdown in this episode. Usually a girl wouldn't be THAT damaged by these events, even with another self in the dark world - however we can see in multiple instances in this episode that Saya/BGS was taking special care of 'growing' Dead Master - purposefully pushing her further and further to that point of breakdown, both in our world and the 'Dark World'.

As well as being able to pinpoint this, we're also able to generally accept that whenever a person/girl is killed in the Dark World, their worries and memories of those worries are 'killed' as well. This happened with Kagari and Kohachi - both forgot the events that led up to their worries and their breakdowns. In this episode, we saw that in Kagari's case, this was her entire childhood that she spent with Yomi. After hearing Yomi's breakdown in the kitchen at school, and not being able to remember the childhood Yomi was talking about, she went to Yomi's house to tell her to let go of her - this was the last straw for Yomi, and most likely planned by Saya/BGS.

I love how dark this all is, and I just wish that people would understand, that YES, the drama is overdone to the max, but it's SUPPOSED to be that way. It happens because of Saya, and the Dark World. The entire premise is that BRS is bearing this pain and helping others regain peace - I really like this plotline, and I actually hope things get darker from here.

Here's hoping for another awesome battle in next week's episode and a long life for Black★Rock Shooter as an IP!

**The above is all my speculation, but based on other's opinions and the anime itself, I'd say it's 90% right, hopefully.
BRSxIgnitionFeb 24, 2012 2:38 PM
"Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own."
- Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To
Feb 24, 2012 2:35 PM

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PaninaManina said:
Stop with that attitude "leave my anime alone". What I realized is that those most critical of those who speak ill of the series is the least that contributes to the discussion. If BRS is soooo wonderful why don't share some thoughts.

My contribution: http://forum.subeteanimes.com/thread-351-page-19.html


If you look back through these posts, you can see where I have put in my thoughts, backing them up with views and reasons - unlike you. Hell, the post directly above this has my thoughts quoted for you. I also recommend you check my thoughts on the first episode, which I hated, and talked about why on the first episode thread.

Sorry, as much as I want to read your link there, I only spent a year or so in Portugal, so i was never taught the language - It's a beautiful place though!

Anyway, back to BRS~
"Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own."
- Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To
Feb 24, 2012 2:37 PM

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BRSxIgnition said:

If you look back through these posts, you can see where I have put in my thoughts, backing them up with views and reasons - unlike you. Hell, the post directly above this has my thoughts quoted for you. I also recommend you check my thoughts on the first episode, which I hated, and talked about why on the first episode thread.

Sorry, as much as I want to read your link there, I only spent a year or so in Portugal, so i was never taught the language - It's a beautiful place though!

Anyway, back to BRS~


My opinion is divided.
When I'm watching I even want any hacker invades my note and make my hd explode.
But now... I'm thinking of making a positive review of these four episodes. I came to the same conclusions.
Feb 24, 2012 2:49 PM

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BRSxIgnition said:

If she can multiply their problems either way, she would focus on Mato regardless.


Mato better be super special for the setting to be such a silly, practically carefree school.


Considering how strong BRS is in the dark world, I think it's a god reason - we'll just have to wait and see.
"Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own."
- Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To
Feb 24, 2012 2:49 PM

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Thanks BRSxIgnition, now most of my questions are cleared out.
Only one remains: from where do you know names of the otherworld characters (except Black★Rock Shooter, that's obvious)?
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If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you?

Not air.
Feb 24, 2012 3:10 PM

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Aurioch said:
Thanks BRSxIgnition, now most of my questions are cleared out.
Only one remains: from where do you know names of the otherworld characters (except Black★Rock Shooter, that's obvious)?


This IP started with the drawing of Black Rock Shooter by Huke. As it got bigger, he added more characters, starting with Dead Master (Green girl), Black Gold Saw (Red Girl), and Strength (Gray Girl) - he based Chariot off of Dragon Slayer - which was another one of his other characters.

For those who are newer to the series, all of the character names are on the site.
"Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own."
- Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To
Feb 24, 2012 3:49 PM

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Eh... I felt that this episode was a little slower than the rest, but that might just have been the complete lack of Mato! |D I mean seriously. Where WAS she?

YOMI, I HATE YOU SO MUCH! GAAAAH
Actually, I think the art for Yomi has changed a little- is it just me, or did she used to look more sophisticated? But, anyway...

YOMI YOU'RE SO STUUUUPID! GAAAAAAAH
STUPID STUPID STUPID
/Pounds on computer

CREEPY COUNSELOR IS CREEPY O^O
Feb 24, 2012 5:21 PM

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BRSxIgnition said:
Aurioch said:
Thanks BRSxIgnition, now most of my questions are cleared out.
Only one remains: from where do you know names of the otherworld characters (except Black★Rock Shooter, that's obvious)?


This IP started with the drawing of Black Rock Shooter by Huke. As it got bigger, he added more characters, starting with Dead Master (Green girl), Black Gold Saw (Red Girl), and Strength (Gray Girl) - he based Chariot off of Dragon Slayer - which was another one of his other characters.

For those who are newer to the series, all of the character names are on the site.


Per BLK Huke Selected Works (and being a fan for so long), Black★Matagi, Black★Devil Girl, and this character (http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x142/ava_z/Unknown6.jpg) came before STRength did. STR was created solely for the OVA at that time.

The other BRS universe characters ( Black★Matagi, Black★Devil Girl, and the unknown character) just haven't been animated. STR seems to be based off of the unknown character, going by the look of her arms and hairstyle. STR in the series has those orange-red eyes, but didn't in the OVA.
Feb 24, 2012 6:32 PM

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LadyOrihime said:
Per BLK Huke Selected Works (and being a fan for so long), Black★Matagi, Black★Devil Girl, and this character (http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x142/ava_z/Unknown6.jpg) came before STRength did. STR was created solely for the OVA at that time.

The other BRS universe characters ( Black★Matagi, Black★Devil Girl, and the unknown character) just haven't been animated. STR seems to be based off of the unknown character, going by the look of her arms and hairstyle. STR in the series has those orange-red eyes, but didn't in the OVA.


I was only mentioning the main characters, but yes, there are the others you've mentioned.
"Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own."
- Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To
Feb 24, 2012 7:04 PM

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Another intriguing episode. I'm quite liking this series.

Jimb0 said:

i feel like this series is constantly trying to underwhelm me. most people came for the action and the other world with the actual title character, but its taken a back seat to the real world. i forgave the ova bcuz they tried to do a lot in only 40 mins, now i think they are trying to do too much for 8 episodes. hopefully they can tie it all together in the last 4 episodes.


You may have come for that, it doesn't mean that we have. Personally i don't give much shit about the other world. Is just stupid fights anyway. BRS doesn't even seem like it can be killed, the fights lack any sense of coherence.


People talk about overreaction from Yomi and although that is indeed true is not really a problem because Yomi ain't your average kid anyway so not having a normal reaction on how to handle this staff is quite sensible.
It's a little bit of a Stockholm syndrome in a way. Yomi got so used to be depended upon even if it was in that psychologically heavy way and the years spend in those conditions made her incapable to understand a more casual way of friendship. Along with her age and the contribution of Saya-sensei it's not that strange to understand how she ends up overreacting over things that might seem normal to others.

For her, normal is not what is normal for most of us. Let's not forget that a big reason of why Kagari used to act like she acted was because Yomi allowed her to do so. Yomi encouraged Kagari's behavior because in a way she needed the attention too even if it made her suffer at moments. It was a self-serving, self-suffering relationship between those two.
Kagari snaped out of it because it seemed Yomi was ready to leave her behind and move on but Yomi hasn't moved on from her need she just moved her need to another person.
She kind of saw Mato as a Kagari replacement instead of just a friend since she kind of lost conception of what just a friend is anyway.

Now on the basketball girl matter. I don't think her memory problems have anything to do with the other world. It's probably just her brain blocking out a dramatic experience. As she said she's the kind of person that likes to smile away her problems so such reaction is logical. People that don't like to face their pain try to avoid it and a block from the brain of a painful experience seems quite fitting for a person like her.
Actually the other world might just be a conception of such simple psychological matters.

Blackiris said:
But everything aside, Saya is a one creepy dame - using subliminal stimuli to convey poisonous words in a simple "slip of the tongue"... She's a scary one all right.
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Yeah kind of scary and awesome at the same time. She's such a smooth operator. The fact that she has such a smooth voice too makes it even more scary.
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Throught the whole episode I wanted to hug Yomi, smack Saya for her awesomene-I mean evilness, and cheer for Dead Master. I do hope she had changed from being pitiful and sad, to badass awesome and full of hatred.

Overall loved the episode even it it ached my heart a bit. Although I wanted to see more of Strenght. Still looking forward of what became of Yomi.
Feb 24, 2012 8:20 PM

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Little girls going insane. Woohoo. XD
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Captain_GARlock said:

Of course people like you who watch garbage wouldn't notice, so enjoy your visual feces. I'm out.


Have a nice night~
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From what I gathered here in this episode, I think the counselor is behind the whole thing. Manipulating everyone's mind, which is the only reason I can think of to justify Kagari whole personality change. Hopefully everything will explain by the end. Also, not sure if anyone notice this, but I think this whole alternate reality is created by the counselor. The way that an eye always look over the people, people begins showing up in that world after talking to her, and the whole metaphor of a cabinet filled with cups.

I personally don;'t think this episode/anime is that bad. It is because of the fact that we are so familiar with the typical anime that explains stuff as we go through each episode, people tend to dislike this one since it is either confusing at time or doesn't take the time to explain things.
Feb 24, 2012 10:43 PM

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polke45 said:
From what I gathered here in this episode, I think the counselor is behind the whole thing. Manipulating everyone's mind, which is the only reason I can think of to justify Kagari whole personality change. Hopefully everything will explain by the end. Also, not sure if anyone notice this, but I think this whole alternate reality is created by the counselor. The way that an eye always look over the people, people begins showing up in that world after talking to her, and the whole metaphor of a cabinet filled with cups.

I personally don;'t think this episode/anime is that bad. It is because of the fact that we are so familiar with the typical anime that explains stuff as we go through each episode, people tend to dislike this one since it is either confusing at time or doesn't take the time to explain things.


Here is my description about the plot in general, that I've posted in the last page, hopefully it helps.

BRSxIgnition said:
I'd just like to voice my opinion on what we know so far, and what I assume is happening.

I believe that the poster "VictimOfFate" has it mostly correct - Saya/BGS is purposefully exploiting the minor worries and weaknesses of these girls to turn them into major disorders. ("Molehills into Mountains.")

She first 'grows' the 'other selves' in the Dark World, and as they - the 'other selves' - grow, they become connected to 'Our World' through people. Once they are connected with the person in our world, it magnifies their emotions, both good and bad - and allows them to build up much more than they usually would. This can be evidenced by Yomi's breakdown in this episode. Usually a girl wouldn't be THAT damaged by these events, even with another self in the dark world - however we can see in multiple instances in this episode that Saya/BGS was taking special care of 'growing' Dead Master - purposefully pushing her further and further to that point of breakdown, both in our world and the 'Dark World'.

As well as being able to pinpoint this, we're also able to generally accept that whenever a person/girl is killed in the Dark World, their worries and memories of those worries are 'killed' as well. This happened with Kagari and Kohachi - both forgot the events that led up to their worries and their breakdowns. In this episode, we saw that in Kagari's case, this was her entire childhood that she spent with Yomi. After hearing Yomi's breakdown in the kitchen at school, and not being able to remember the childhood Yomi was talking about, she went to Yomi's house to tell her to let go of her - this was the last straw for Yomi, and most likely planned by Saya/BGS.

I love how dark this all is, and I just wish that people would understand, that YES, the drama is overdone to the max, but it's SUPPOSED to be that way. It happens because of Saya, and the Dark World. The entire premise is that BRS is bearing this pain and helping others regain peace - I really like this plotline, and I actually hope things get darker from here.

Here's hoping for another awesome battle in next week's episode and a long life for Black★Rock Shooter as an IP!
"Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own."
- Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To
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i think you have the Real World/Dark World priorities reversed. think of Dark World personas as embodiments of emotion. as one's emotion grows in the Real World, a representation of that person manifests in the Dark World, with the power of that character indicative of how strong their emotions are. we can obviously see that BRS/DM/Chariot are powerful manifestations, and the emotional status of those girls' Real World counterparts were very strong, albeit somewhat volatile.

Kohata is completely different. although she's naturally discovering her own emotions, (since she fell in love with her senior) she's still a bit more emotionally hardened than any of the main characters (as she didn't cry during her ordeal earlier seen in episode 3). BGS "growing" Kohata's Dark World counterpart was just representative of Saya trying to amplify her emotions through the use of excessive empathy (you're so strong, you can cry if it's hard on you, etc).

but other than that I think your explanation is pretty spot on.


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People may think this anime is a failure, but personally I'm loving every single episode.
Who thought of taking a simple (and relatable) concept of friendship drama, and making it so perfectly done. I felt on edge with Yomi the whole time. I got relate to her having the feeling that no one needs you and everything felt really intense.
Anyway, I can't wait for the fight next week and to see where the story will go.
Keep it coming!
Feb 25, 2012 1:16 AM

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Bunch of Sensitive Girls
and Bunch of Sensitive Watchers xD
Feb 25, 2012 4:26 AM

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Scary Episode, really.
Feb 25, 2012 4:34 AM

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Captain_GARlock said:

And you're completely full of shit. You're overanalyzing something with absolutely nothing below the surface. It's a poorly written piece of crap with no redeeming qualities. Develop your taste.

As for the basketball girl, that's not a traumatic experience. Yes, the word is traumatic, not dramatic. It was mild embarassment at best.



You are completely ridiculous. The lack to empathize with any person different than your own glorious self is laughable.
Many things people do are incomprehensible in the way i see the world but i still empathize and manage to see on how the world can seem different to them.

Mild embarrassment? Sure under my logic that's what it is too. When kids get taken from their homes and trained to fight in wars or dying from hunger such things might seem silly but no matter how silly it might seem according to people who see a bigger picture of the world and suffering in the world it does not mean is something that doesn't happen.

She's a 12 year old girl leaving in a western society and in a school that's basically her whole world. That embarrassment and her love for that boy is a very big thing for her no matter how silly such matters may seem to us.
Similar stuff goes for Yomi.
There are quite a few examples of kids that killed themselves over a bad grade or because they got rejected. Those weren't in some anime, they where real. People overreact and even commit suicide or hurt others for things many of us might find silly but meant the world to them.

I laugh over people who think they know what is realistic by their minimal experience and by basically seeing other supposed realistic works instead of actual reality. Yeah sure you know realistic reactions from the TV box, don't make me laugh. Actual reality is crazy as fuck. Half the things that happen and especially in terms of behavior would be called as "insensible" if they where put in a movie or an anime plot.
I have seen people behaving in ways i can never tell what the fuck they were thinking and yet this were real people we see everyday. Kids being traumatized over something that might seem silly to an older person is nothing that unusual.

But in the end if you think any problem this teenage girls might have is silly why did you even started this series? They ain't living in some undeveloped nation that will force them to have more serious problems like food and shelter or survival in general. You knew that. What problems did you expect them to have?
Do we have to kill their parents or make another plot of them trying to save the world like all the other 5745 anime out there for their problems to be watchable?
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I SEE EMO PEOPLE! EMO EVERYWHERE!

"Oh, poor girls, Kohata was rejected and Yomi have no friends and think she is uselees (and she really is). Going insane and commiting suicide because of this, seems legit."

Bullshit!
Stop crying and get a life.
Feb 25, 2012 5:33 AM
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The drama... The drama !

Great episode, I think it was very consistent with the themes of adolescence and friendship.

In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
Feb 25, 2012 5:44 AM

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Besides that other world/reality, BRS is now just as bad as Ano Hana and Hanasaku Iroha.
Feb 25, 2012 5:46 AM

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Though I do not sympathize with the Internet tough guys and their psychopath posturing, the more I think about BRS, the stupider it seems.

Oh well, I enjoy bad, too.
Feb 25, 2012 6:01 AM

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When I myself went through similar situations in childhood, guess what was the solution?
Fap my frustrations.

If Yomi just play a little with her pussy, then so: no build up of emotions, and no emotional outburst, no repressed feelings just unmatched feelings.
Se only need to stop shrinking in the corner of her room and seek answers with the "adults" and find something to do. Open the window, go to the streets, enjoy life.
But no... we'll have to watch this spectacle of "fucking mild tragic embarrassment super drama", and little birds, and butts, till the end when the power of frindship and love will save the day.
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PaninaManina said:
I SEE EMO PEOPLE! EMO EVERYWHERE!

"Oh, poor girls, Kohata was rejected and Yomi have no friends and think she is uselees (and she really is). Going insane and commiting suicide because of this, seems legit."

Bullshit!
Stop crying and get a life.


I see silly immature people everywhere. How gloriously stupid can you get? Why don't you go grow your internet penis somewhere else than trying to play the cool internet guy because you don't care about the drama and you supposedly ain't emo(is that word still in fashion?).
Let me explain something to you silly little dude. None of us is gonna sleep with his socks tonight or lose his appetite over Black Rock Shooter but unlike you we actually think that watching something is about trying to understand it and enjoy it instead of bashing everything that isn't exactly as badass as we like to play we are.
Go figure huh? People actually trying to watch a show by expanding their views and using understanding and empathy so they can see if it has something they can enjoy instead of watching shows to grow their dicks. How crazy they must be wanting to find the enjoyment in artistic works. Go figure?
It could end up being good or bad but the nerve of them trying to get it. Silly people.


Now go watch TTGL where there are big robots throwing galaxies like frisbees so you can tell your friends how cool not emo you are because you like seeing galaxies being thrown by huge robots and shut-up.

PaninaManina said:
When I myself went through similar situations in childhood, guess what was the solution?
Fap my frustrations.


Wow, now i want your autograph. You are like my idol.
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Monad said:

Let me explain something to you silly little dude. None of us is gonna sleep with his socks tonight or lose his appetite over Black Rock Shooter but unlike you we actually think that watching something is about trying to understand it and enjoy it instead of bashing everything that isn't exactly as badass as we like to play we are.
Go figure huh? People actually trying to watch a show by expanding their views and using understanding and empathy so they can see if it has something they can enjoy instead of watching shows to grow their dicks. How crazy they must be wanting to find the enjoyment in artistic works. Go figure?


Despite I keep calling Yomi a emo, because she is emo without doubt, I cry a lot watching anime. My favorite series is Aria and I cry almost in every episode. Chrno Crusade? Left me traumatized, whenever I hear the song that play in Chrno and Rossette's final scene I start to cry instantly.
The problem in Black Rock Shooter TV is not that i don't understand and feel the drama, the emotions of the characters. I just disagree.
All problems would be solved if Yomi just looking for something to do!
She gets isolated in room and in school, silent, doing nothing, just waiting for others. The problem is her, just her. After getting rid of Kagari, in half a day she begins to behave like her. Hypocrite, and coward.
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The drama still seems highly forced, and Yomi is seriously messed up in the head. Saya-sensei is EVIL, I strongly suspect she's the one orchestrating all this insanity. Her manipulating everyone behind the scenes is the only explanation for how illogically some of these characters are acting.

Kagari's still a hateful, sociopathic bitch I see. Even when she's trying to be 'nice' she stabs Yomi in the face. Looks like I was right, there's no redemption for someone that sick. No idea why the class all loved her for her bitchiness ... must be the tsundere thing.
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The episode finale was excellent. Some brilliant expressions by Yomi.
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Saya is putting some shit into these girls' coffee to make they do insane stuff.
It's not possible that they just go batshit dramatic because of a bunch of stupid things in one or two days. ESPECIALLY Yomi.
When Kagari was evil, she was all "Oh, I don't have freedom, let me go, Kagari, lemme be friends with other people, I wanna be free" and when Kagari is finally acting like an actual person she's all "NOBODY LOVES ME ANYMOAR, PLEASE COME BACK TO DRAW HEARTS ON MY SKIN WITH NEEDLES, KAGARI!"
Not to mention that Kagari was magically exorcized.

I really hope Saya is directelly connected with BRS World (it's already damn obvious that she's BGS) and is making all this weird forced drama happen. Otherwise... These characters are just bad.
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Holy shit, these bitches are all out of their fucking minds.

Saya-chan-sensei is all too eager to take advantage of that, the devious whore.
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PaninaManina said:
Monad said:

Let me explain something to you silly little dude. None of us is gonna sleep with his socks tonight or lose his appetite over Black Rock Shooter but unlike you we actually think that watching something is about trying to understand it and enjoy it instead of bashing everything that isn't exactly as badass as we like to play we are.
Go figure huh? People actually trying to watch a show by expanding their views and using understanding and empathy so they can see if it has something they can enjoy instead of watching shows to grow their dicks. How crazy they must be wanting to find the enjoyment in artistic works. Go figure?


Despite I keep calling Yomi a emo, because she is emo without doubt, I cry a lot watching anime. My favorite series is Aria and I cry almost in every episode. Chrno Crusade? Left me traumatized, whenever I hear the song that play in Chrno and Rossette's final scene I start to cry instantly.
The problem in Black Rock Shooter TV is not that i don't understand and feel the drama, the emotions of the characters. I just disagree.
All problems would be solved if Yomi just looking for something to do!
She gets isolated in room and in school, silent, doing nothing, just waiting for others. The problem is her, just her. After getting rid of Kagari, in half a day she begins to behave like her. Hypocrite, and coward.


Yeah and where you just disagreeing connects with your silly emo comments, and how you fap away?
I had to criticize you to write something more decent like you did now? You can wright your critic of what flaws you find without acting like some silly teenager trying to play hardcore over the internet.
The problem isn't your opinion about the show.
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Yomi's breakdown looks completely ridiculous and over the top on the surface (And I concede it IS a little TO dramatic) but if we look deeper into it and analyse everything that happened you'll find it is understandable. So lets begin analyzing!

At the beginning of the Anime she's jumpy and unwilling to make friends. That's because her whole life she's been burdened by the guilt of causing Kagari that injury (Which isn't even major, Kagari has been able to walk the whole time. It's just been a "Mental" issue preventing her from walking) while she was chasing after the departing Yomi. Already her Psyche is fragile. I believe Yomi is unwilling to make friends because she's afraid she'll cause them pain in some way or form. But at the same time she craves friends!

That is why, through persistence Mato is able to befriend Yomi. For Yomi she now has this need to always be and help Kagari but she also yearns to be with Mato, who cares for her and treats her like a human instead of a servant. Kagari totally guilt tripped Yomi into practically becoming her maid, saying she's the cause of her disability and that Yomi HAS to be there for her or else. Yomi became USED to that even though she may not like it. It's a psychological thing. When you hear the same thing over and over and do it over and over you become used to it and you believe it. You adapt to it! Yomi believed that she'd always have to be their for Kagari unless she wanted Kagari to get worse.

But even though Yomi believes all of that the rational and optimistic Mato has come along. Yomi now knows what its like to have a REAL friend not out of pressure but out of getting to know eachother and liking one another for who they are! Yomi's sense of friendship has been twisted by her friendship with Kagari. She believes "Friends" have to be there no matter what, that they'll never disappoint you, that YOUR the world to them. Because that was what she had to be for Kagari. But of-course thats IMPOSSIBLE and so not true!

She's so untrustful in her friendship with Mato because she thinks Mato must be hers only. She's not use to "sharing" her friends and them having other friends. That explains her anxiousness about Mato and Yuu's friendship. She's mega jealous of them being together because she wants Mato all to herself. Aka she's still like a child in her head thinking that once you obtain something it's yours and not to be shared! She is being dramatic but when you've grown up to believe something it's hard to face the reality that it may not be true. Ignoring the happenings of the other world (where it appears if your killed your emotions and memories to certain people are cut and forgotten) Kagari suddenly doesn't need Yomi anymore. She may not have liked Kagari a whole lot but she was so used to Kagari needing her she's surprised how much she doesn't now appear to matter to her. With Saya's little "You don't matter" comment her psych took another blow.

For her everything is changing! THATS why shes starting to lose the plot! Saya drilled it into her head that if she dies or disappears no one would give two cents! Once again it's a psychological thing. Though it's obscene to us rational people, Yomi believes that! Right when shes angst-ing the most she latches onto her friendship with Mato. Her belief that Mato will come no matter what. But instead she got a message from Yuu. That's the ultimate betrayal to her! Mato didn't come and instead she told Yuu her details. She concluded that Mato didn't care about her anymore and that she was pushing her off onto Yuu. As her last attempt to hang onto her sanity she runs to Kagari thinking "Kagari needs me no matter what" but in the end Kagari was just their to end their friendship. That was the final straw. It was a sequence of events that led to Yomi losing her mind. It's dramatic and silly but understandable.

Every human grows up differently. What were taught and what were told by elders we believe. Heck some twisted person can teach their child while their growing up that 7 means 9 and that kid will believe it until their told otherwise and proven wrong. The otherworld ties in with the real world and exaggerates the already dramatic real world. The otherworld IS the real world but instead of mental battles and belief's being fought over and antagonized it puts everything into a psychical perspective. If what was happening in those girls heads was happening in life then they'd all be fighting like they are in the otherworld. Saya's just controlling everything to how she pleases!

Until Mato, Yomi, Kagari, Yuu and Kohata can break the strings that Saya has attached to them nothing will be resolved and everything will go the way she wants. Mystery is what she wants! Aka everyone should just sit back and watch the show xD I'm liking this alot because I'm a person who loves delving into psychology and really analyzing characters! It's totally off the plot but Im loving it! The characters feel real to me and are growing and changing whether it be for the better or worse! THAT is a good anime to me ^_^
Feb 25, 2012 7:16 AM

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I really hope Saya is directelly connected with BRS World (it's already damn obvious that she's BGS) and is making all this weird forced drama happen. Otherwise... These characters are just bad.


Preeeetty much.
Feb 25, 2012 7:24 AM

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Why have so many people given this a 5? Come on, Seriously?

Edit: Looking at all the posts, I'm really surprised there aren't as many <3 (by that I mean less than 3, not love) votes, many people have said this is bad, but the ratings don't reflect it at all.
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Yeah and where you just disagreeing connects with your silly emo comments, and how you fap away?
I had to criticize you to write something more decent like you did now? You can wright your critic of what flaws you find without acting like some silly teenager trying to play hardcore over the internet.
The problem isn't your opinion about the show.

Good to see that you have no prejudices or unfounded concepts about people that you only have contact by through an internet nickname.

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Feb 25, 2012 7:57 AM

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BRS is an anime about karma.
All rage you direct to it come back three times towards you in foruns.
Feb 25, 2012 8:46 AM

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Why have so many people given this a 5? Come on, Seriously?

Edit: Looking at all the posts, I'm really surprised there aren't as many <3 (by that I mean less than 3, not love) votes, many people have said this is bad, but the ratings don't reflect it at all.


Because I never vote on the episode polls. LOL
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BRS is an anime about karma.
All rage you direct to it come back three times towards you in foruns.


I really think you shouldn't be on these forums.

I understand you dislike the show, but the way you express that annoys a lot of people, and it's starting a lot of arguments. If you can leave your opinion at just that; AN OPINION - that would be great.

You don't need to point insults at each person that disagrees with your opinion. You just need to state WHY you think the way you do.

If you don't, you're just sounding ignorant and stupid.

Next time, just state your reasons, instead of the above.
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Feb 25, 2012 9:33 AM

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I understand you dislike the show, but the way you express that annoys a lot of people, and it's starting a lot of arguments. If you can leave your opinion at just that; AN OPINION - that would be great.


Everyone told me this, and can't be helped. Is just my way.


About express my opinion, I thought that was what everyone was doing here. Just in case I'll end my sentences with "IMO".

BRSxIgnition said:

You don't need to point insults at each person that disagrees with your opinion. You just need to state WHY you think the way you do.


I don't insult anyone here, only the producers.
If my opinion about BRS insult you, it's not my concern. Deal with it or do what Monad did, accuse me of being a "silly teeneger" and faping my e-penis. But careful, I can take my big epenis and hit you to death.

Yomi still emo, IMO.
Feb 25, 2012 9:41 AM
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the scene with the captain, creepy.
So cutting off their heads, like, deletes their memories of what was making them upset? Creepy OnO
Feb 25, 2012 10:11 AM
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Hinamizawa syndrome.

The councellor must be feeding the students PCPs.
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Feb 25, 2012 11:13 AM

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I love Saya's cups - individual cup for any quest.

Yomi is a real emooo and there is little chance, that she would cease.

Mato wanted to like characters from other animes run to school with toast in his mouth, but it's not such a series! lol.

On Yomi's painting, Mato tearing blood!

Creepy Kohata!

I even like Saya~
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Thinking that counselor is a complete Sadist she seems to like toying with the emotions of young adolescence and watching them burn. Assuming she's not just doing to unleash what's going on in this fantasy world to destroy the world or some baloney like that.
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Feb 25, 2012 12:52 PM

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Not much battle this episode....In fact, the one real half-battle was in the end.
Now i realized something. When a self in the other world is destroyed, the character or the memories of the other is altered. That's why Kagari and Kohata don't remember anything.
Yomi had a total breakdown there. But i like Kagari now.
Showdown between Yomi's and BRS next week!
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Bitches be crazy in this show.
Feb 25, 2012 3:32 PM

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lol I'm probably the only one liking the moment when Yomi flipped xD

Well I have a weird taste.
Feb 25, 2012 5:27 PM

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lol so much rage in this anime Yomi going crazy!
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BRS may seem like a "Japanese story about teens", but the script is bad and transparent, the drama is forced and stupid and characters go from boring to annoying. The only interesting part, the alternative world, composes only the 30% of the show, and while I like the motif about the book of colours and birds, they use it in a way that feels retarded, and there isn´t much other highlights to dissimulate its flaws.
Honestly, even if it´s only 8 episodes, I don´t feel like enduring another average-to-mediocre anime, I´m already having enough with Guilty Crown...
DROPPED. Might consider finish it if I hear promising things about BRS, although I have doubts about it...
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