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Feb 10, 2012 10:17 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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FUCK! I'm frustrated!
Which can only mean... this episode was fucking awesome. I swear that when Iketani left the gas station, my heart was racing. 5/5
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Apr 26, 2012 5:59 PM

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That's rough, man.
 
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May 8, 2012 7:24 AM

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Sorry but i think it's her fault too. He might have misunderstood on how she likes that other guy but still she never told him she likes him. First she told him she wanted him to arrange a race with 86 making him think that's why she approached him and then when she told him that she's still willing to give him her virginity it seemed more like "i wont to have a sex experience and you seem decent enough" not that she actually is her preferred choice. and especially after talking like that about the other guy.

To him she was an angel, a goddess, not some compromise since he can't get something better at the moment and that is the impression she was leaving to him. I can't blame him for thinking of not going when he feels like against his feeling hers are just "i need a guy to have sex with".
If he thought less of her then it would have been easy to go and get free sex but for him she was something greater and didn't want to feel like he was just the guy that happened to be around. He wanted something more from a night with her.
Hell am still confused if she really has strong feelings for him. If she felt strong about him then she should have told him something about her feelings.
 
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Aug 31, 2012 8:32 PM
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Dec 11, 2012 4:50 PM

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it was a mutual fault between two novices of love, neither Mako nor Iketani have any clue about what they're doing right or wrong.

with that said, what we see is clearly different from what they're experiencing, especially so because of their inward personalities and conflicting thought processes.

the end
 
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Jan 19, 2013 4:17 AM

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Oh my god so heartbreaking.. I wish they could be together in the near future..
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Jan 21, 2013 10:38 PM

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Holy shit the horror
 
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Apr 27, 2013 3:17 AM

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Monad said:
Sorry but i think it's her fault too. He might have misunderstood on how she likes that other guy but still she never told him she likes him. First she told him she wanted him to arrange a race with 86 making him think that's why she approached him and then when she told him that she's still willing to give him her virginity it seemed more like "i wont to have a sex experience and you seem decent enough" not that she actually is her preferred choice. and especially after talking like that about the other guy.

To him she was an angel, a goddess, not some compromise since he can't get something better at the moment and that is the impression she was leaving to him. I can't blame him for thinking of not going when he feels like against his feeling hers are just "i need a guy to have sex with".
If he thought less of her then it would have been easy to go and get free sex but for him she was something greater and didn't want to feel like he was just the guy that happened to be around. He wanted something more from a night with her.
Hell am still confused if she really has strong feelings for him. If she felt strong about him then she should have told him something about her feelings.

I agree, I'd even say it's mainly her fault. She realizes he thought she meant it as a deal, but then continues to talk about how great her crush is without telling him how she feels about him.

I'd like to see this romance being explored further, but I don't necessarily want it to end in a relationship between the two of them.


 
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Jul 31, 2013 9:12 PM

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I feel sorry for Iketani....although I have to say he should of made up his damn mind up earlier. Well, there was a bit if unfortunate obstacle in his way...but well, karma's a bitch.
 
Aug 11, 2013 2:31 PM

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Go! or you're fired!
 
Jan 11, 2014 12:13 PM
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Well, he had her cell number. Why not give a call instead of making her wait a lot? lmao.
 
May 15, 2014 6:03 AM

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He can still get the girl! Right? Right? :P
Damn you creators of this, whyyyyy :P

 
May 17, 2014 1:42 PM

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damn, this episode is so depressing XD
love is such horrifying thing.
 
Jun 5, 2014 6:11 PM

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That was quite a sad episode. Was really hoping things would work out before the very end...
 
Oct 25, 2014 6:43 PM

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Damn it all! Da feels are real. I hope they have a chance to make up, but I cant see it happening.
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Go! or you're fired!
That was the best moment in this episode. I love their manager.
 
Nov 15, 2014 3:14 PM

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Stupid Iketani, he should tell from the start to Mako that he won't show up. Because he's not planning to begin with, he's afraid of pussy. Lol
 
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Jan 3, 2015 10:59 PM

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Should never keep a lady waiting, Iketani.
 
Mar 26, 2015 2:55 PM

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Why does she want to have sex with him so badly? Seems pretty odd.
 
May 25, 2015 7:18 AM

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Yep, there's definitely a reason why this show is tagged "Drama" but not "Romance"... I'm guessing none of them will be successful in this domain.

To be honest, I wouldn't have bothered chasing after her either. She was just taking advantage of him when it was convenient. Even the "virginity offer" just sounded like "I'm curious, I want to fuck".
 
Jul 24, 2015 10:48 PM

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Wait... doesn't he have her phone number anyway ? I don't see the problem.

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Well, he had her cell number. Why not give a call instead of making her wait a lot? lmao.


You're forgetting it's an anime from the 90s, cell phones weren't popular back then. She probably gave him her house phone number.
 
Oct 13, 2015 2:15 PM

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A very mean example of "Yank the Dog's Chain".
 
Oct 27, 2015 10:54 AM
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Oh WTF! I wanted Iketani to win. I haven't been this emotionally invested in an anime for years now. My gut was literally getting twisted as he was stuck in traffic.

I would've gone up to Usui and hunted her ass down. I would do anything, everything if I were in his case.
 
Feb 23, 2016 2:54 AM

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This god damn episode!!!
 
Mar 13, 2016 6:42 AM
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good episode. very good!!!!! 5/5
 
Mar 23, 2016 1:38 PM

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That's what he get from being an idiot and a cuck.

Goddammit.
 
Apr 4, 2016 1:16 PM
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At least he could've gone to Usui pass and maybe with a miracle meet her there or on his way there.
 
May 15, 2016 5:36 PM

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It's quite confusing, i'm kind of lost, i guess i hope he can still have a chance with her
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May 16, 2016 5:54 PM

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Nice new OP! But quite a sad ending :/ Decent episode though, I wonder if they'll advance on it or just let it flow!
 
Jun 16, 2016 4:19 PM
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Looooool, now hopefully we move away from the poorly done romantic drama.
 
Aug 30, 2016 9:03 PM

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When yur crush gives u a genuine ok to SMASH but you don't SMASH what a fuckboy smh. Don't even start on Itsuki lol he's always fucking ppl up hope that lil shithead learns to shut up in the later seasons

n yea idk why he didn't bother calling the next day...guess every1 likes to go full retard

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Oct 23, 2016 7:27 PM

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What a fucking idiot lol
 
Oct 30, 2016 12:45 PM

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Well, that was tragic. Makes me glad cell phones are so common nowadays.
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Dec 4, 2016 12:42 PM
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new opening sucks
 
Jan 12, 2017 10:46 PM

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What a nice boss, I wish there's a boss like him in real life.. Never seen eone though

That was sad :(
Author why did you do this?

I mean he can contact her first right? She gave him her number for a reason right?
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Paprion said:
Well, he had her cell number. Why not give a call instead of making her wait a lot? lmao.


I don't think they had mobile phone back then since we've only so far seen a house phone in the series
 
Jul 19, 2017 11:11 AM

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There was like no Takumi in this episode. Once Mako was introduced this shows gone somewhat downhill, I'm hoping with the final Ryosuke race the show will pick up again. It's not bad but it's just not what it's been before this. Seriously the whole episode was based around subpar romance and had two seconds of plot progression. I just want my races dog.

It was pretty rad when the manager called out Iketani on his shit, favorite part of the episode.
 
Jul 22, 2017 4:16 PM

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Yo, life was tough before mobile phones.
 
Sep 4, 2017 2:34 PM

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Ecchi from the previous century and millenia , that's some good stuff mane.

If I was in Itsuki's / Kenji's place I wouldn't behave this stupidly.. Can't they clearly see that the girl doesn't have any interest in them and they just look like fools there :/

The boss is awesome saying "Go bang her of you are fired" and overall all this "Let's meet at 8 , you'll make a woman" feels so weird in an amusing way , maybe it was a normal thing back then hehe
 
Sep 26, 2017 6:55 AM

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That hit right in the feels, fuck... :/
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Oct 11, 2017 6:23 AM

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Powerful. Most powerful episode this season.

Old dude's speech on love was incredible and it's sad that things didn't work out. It really is all apart of life though. Neither Mako or Kouichiro will come out of this unscathed. I'm interested in seeing what happens next.

Something very similar to this has occurred in my life, so it's easy for me to feel their pain.

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Jan 9, 2018 1:11 PM

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NO, this was such a painful episode. I hope they can both become happy in the future.
 
Feb 24, 2018 10:30 PM

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Iketani Senpai, forever Lonely Driver. Damn.
 
Aug 31, 2018 4:53 AM

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Iketani is such a fool, he screwed it up!

Mako was as honest as possible with him, she told him that it wasn't because of the race that she wanted her first time to be with him, and when he asked about her past crush, she told him everything, it's interesting that Ryousuke was her inspiration too, but Iketani with his complexes got on the defensive again, and made her wait like a fool for hours!

I'm glad his boss said just how stupid he was being to his face, and I'm still rooting for them, but I'm glad that all that he found when he finally got there were the bitter marks of her drift on the asphalt. He should feel guilty, he could at least had said to her face at the pool, or phoned her to tell that he wasn't going in the first place or something, I hope she's mad, and not just sad. I'm also glad that she won't give up racing anymore, she's my favorite out of the racers so far. And now it's finally Ryousuke's turn to face Takumi.

And it's a bit weird we got a new OP so close to the end of the season, but it's cool I guess. Also, Itsuki and Kenji are terribly annoying.
 
Sep 10, 2018 2:30 AM
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So she's gone for good now? She's out of his reach now? Damn.
 
Sep 20, 2018 7:31 PM
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Racers don't need a girlfriend. Poor Iketani
 
Oct 3, 2018 4:00 AM

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Wth, this was so frustrating. I could understand both sides and I actually liked how we didn't just get a cliche reunion, but damn was it sad. I gues both were to blame, Mako shouldn't have acted slutty and Iketani had an inferiority complex, especially mentioning Takahashi was the final nail in the coffin. Good that the manager talked some sense into him, but it was too late and there wasn't another chance. I hope both Iketani and Mako develop from now.

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Nov 3, 2018 10:10 AM

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I cant understand you guys that keep saying that Iketani is the idiot. The whole thing started and was provoked by the stupid bitch!!!! I swear that he should've dump her or say to her never to show her face again before him. Yeah hr was stupid to keep chasing her after all she've done. How low can you go to sell your virginity for a stupid race??? That one line should have indicated to him that she's a whore!!! Whoever wrote this lives in a fantasy world. Heads up Senpai. Greater things are coming. Dont loose yourself. A car is the only thing you need. Forget about the stupid bitch!!!
 
Dec 20, 2018 8:17 PM
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Fucking hell... that hit home real hard
 
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Poor Iketani. Feel bad for him. Though it was partially his fault.

 
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