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Feb 7, 2012 2:07 AM
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Wow, Ichigo has to fight against his own friends to get to Tsukishima, things are getting intense now! Really love how they are animating these scenes!
Feb 7, 2012 2:16 AM
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Getting better since the last ep. I know Jouten I thought I was the only one who noticed the reanimation.


The added scenes are definitely making it flow alot better then it did in the manga.
Feb 7, 2012 3:22 AM
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I agree I am extremely impressed with how the anime is pulling it off so well.
This arc in the manga wasn't all that great but the anime version is really doing an amazing job with this arc.

The emotion put into it, the music which plays perfectly for a lot of the scenes, how you can feel Ichigo is just becoming so desperately confused and crazy in everything that is going on. How his family and friends think he's gone mad and that itself is affecting him emotionally.(The scene makes it feel like everything is just falling apart)

I have to hand it to them. I thought the anime of this arc would be no different then the manga but it supremely surpasses it and shocked me!(The "flow" of it as you stated, which really helped pull it off.) At one point it felt like one of those "On the edge of my seat" moments and now I'm actually really looking forward to the next episode as well!
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Feb 7, 2012 3:54 AM
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I found the whole brainwash thing quite predictable.. but animes these days don't work on the predictable anyway, it's how well it's executed. And Bleach executes it extremely well.

Also I was wondering what will be up with Ishida, I love him.
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Feb 7, 2012 4:44 AM
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It was a fine episode. Only thing that disappoined me is that Tsukishima's arm getting cut part was censored. Oh well, not the first time we see censorship in Bleach.
Feb 7, 2012 4:50 AM
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It's like this episode lasted two minutes! It's amazing how time flies when you're watching Bleach :D LoL at the scenes from the past with Tsukishima, he even fought Aizen :D
Feb 7, 2012 5:13 AM
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@Dodara

"It's like this episode lasted two minutes! It's amazing how time flies when you're watching Bleach :D"

+500 bro :)
Great episode by the way !!!
1 épisode until the epic moment of the Fullbring Arc, can't wait.
Feb 7, 2012 5:31 AM
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Dodara said:
It's like this episode lasted two minutes! It's amazing how time flies when you're watching Bleach


Yea, it was the same for me, but apart from IMHO being a good episode in the technical as well as atmospheric area I'd also blame it somewhat on the fact, that there was little feeling of progress for me. It seems like the entire episode was used to a) move Ichigo's character to Tsukishimas mansion and b) let him realize what the spectator know since the previous episode. These to steps may have been executed in a good manner and might have suffered if they were shortened in a significant way, but at least one more relevant element of story progress would have been nice IMHO. ;)
Feb 7, 2012 7:06 AM
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Crappy episode, just another coward wasting several episodes because he's a chicken. Really, fanboys aside, I can't see who would say the loved this episode. Total utter crap.
Hated it.


And i wonder what you like. So you criticize because everybody dont agree with you? Nevermind i saw your profile. So i guess Naruto is supposed to be so great and Fairy Tail the OP rip off.Ao no Exorcist anime turned to shit around episode 15 when they changed the whole story around.

I could had sworn in the manga that Tsukishimas arm was cut off unless i'm remembering wrong.
Feb 7, 2012 7:18 AM

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These cliff hangers are killing me!! the anime for this arc is deffinitely better than the manga!
Feb 7, 2012 7:26 AM

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It was a good episode, but it did felt a bit slow just like Urisk said. Half the episode was just the same stuff from the previous episode. The short fight was pretty cool with Ichigo's speed, getsuga shurikens and toned down Tenshou. I hope in the next episode Ichigo would man up and start talking to his friends about their memories, find contradictions and point them out. But even if he does that i hope it wont work, because we've seen enough evil conquered with the power of friendship.

Also nice foreshadowing in the beginning of the episode. What are they carrying i wonder...? Find out in the next episodes...
Feb 7, 2012 8:16 AM

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Episode was good with the extended fight parts that were added.

I'm only dissapointed Tsukishima's arm didn't get chopped off here tough, oh well...

Feb 7, 2012 9:27 AM

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Bleach does a lot less recap at the beginning of episodes compared to the past so I'm not complaining. Plus I don't mind if they stretch things out a little to keep pace with the manga and prevent fillers. But I do understand people saying the last two episodes were repetitive.
Feb 7, 2012 10:34 AM

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Why was Ichigo's father carrying a light sword ?
Feb 7, 2012 10:37 AM

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Game_Master said:
Why was Ichigo's father carrying a light sword ?


I guess he will
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Feb 7, 2012 12:21 PM
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I am literally in love with this series all over again. The anime is pulling out the stops like no other and it's awesome!!! While I still like this part of the manga, like much of this arc the anime team (and likely Kubo assisting) is making it 9000+ times better!!!

I even welcomed the 5 minute recap, because the last episode was just that epic!! Also added to the urgency. And the art is spot on, even. I could go on xp

Next episode is going to be ridiculous. Can't wait. 5/5
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Feb 7, 2012 12:33 PM

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Wow Ichigo is even stronger than he was a soul reaper.

Ichigo might have kill his own friends to kill Tsukishima.
Feb 7, 2012 1:39 PM
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I want Bankai back.
And what the hell happened to Kon?
+, his father is acting all mysterious.
Feb 7, 2012 1:57 PM

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What was Isshin and Urahara doing is what is making me curious. Although, I'm obviously also curious as to how he will defeat Tsukishima.
@AnimeFtw1 What did happen to Kon? He just disappeared I guess, unless I missed something about him going away...
Wonder what his powers will be like when he regains his shinigami powers back, assuming he does, due to him now having Shinigami, Hollow, and Fullbring powers. Could bring about some more awesome powers!
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Feb 7, 2012 2:17 PM
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Personally I'm just waiting for him to go Hollow/beast mode on Tsukishima. But I guess I'll have to keep waiting for that.. Him beeing in his original human form and all. /sigh
Feb 7, 2012 3:08 PM

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cant w8 for next episode!!!;)
Feb 7, 2012 4:14 PM

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Really cool episode!
I like that Tsukishima is really manipulative and really knows how to mess with Ichigo. Rather than just threatening friends and family, he's putting them right in the middle of everything and that really pushes Ichigo into a corner that he can't get out of because there's no way he would harm his friends and family.

This arc in the manga went extremely fast, I like that they're adding some details and better explanations to everything.
Feb 7, 2012 4:51 PM

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Pretty good episode, I got to say. They handled this scene beautifully, great music and everything.
Feb 7, 2012 6:25 PM

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I loled at the scenes where Tsukishima was there during hardcore fights where he would be completely useless.
Feb 7, 2012 7:00 PM
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im guessing kons not here because ichigo has no need for him anymore so hes proberbly either at uraharas shop with the bount sensors or he went back with rukia.
one thing i found funny about all the memories Tsukishima changed is that they are all major fight scenes while everyone is injured and has ripped clothes he didnt have a single scrach on him, i know its not just me but if he went up against aisen im pritty sure hed have at least a bit of dirt on him.
also cant wait to see what that light sword is that his dad had.
and there was one memorie that he changed witch was where they learned to use there powers, where the hell was yoruichi
Feb 7, 2012 8:29 PM
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SOO TRUUE. NO ONE WAS THERE TO SEE THAT FIGHT WITH AIZEN.

and in that scene, did you guys see Tsukishima's beautiful hair blowing in the wind, while Ichigo was all bloody and stuff? XD
Feb 7, 2012 9:55 PM

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Jouten said:
The added scenes are definitely making it flow alot better then it did in the manga.


Am I the only one who feels like they're just dragging it out so they don't catch up to the manga as fast? >.> But they did do a good job, i'll give 'em that, it's flows pretty well, and Ichigo's internal chaos is illustrated quite nicely, (though I can always do with more chaos!! >:D )

but on another note, why didn't anyone notice the huge, western-style building that popped up in the woods? =.= lol
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Feb 8, 2012 1:17 AM
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I like how Tsukishima looked all photoshoped/obviously useless in the flashbacks, especially the random stills where he was just holding a book.

"Oh what's that? Who took down Byakaya, Ulquiorra, and Aizen? It was Tsukishima, silly Ichigo. He was obviously the X-factor."

Too bad animation quality goes down next episode since if they keep the pace they're using a really good moment is about to come up and it would have been nice to see the A-rank animation team handle it.
Feb 8, 2012 3:51 PM

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This episode and the previous one are the only episodes I've really enjoyed for quite some time. These mind games / mind alterations are far more interesting and emotional than the mindless fighting in the last 100 episodes or so.
Feb 8, 2012 5:46 PM

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So... Am I the only one who DIED when I saw Tsukishima and his 'copy' 'paste' moments in those memories? XD
I mean.. Everyone's standing there, looking as cool as ever, and there's Tsukishima... Reading a book.

Oh and that scene where Ichigo was fighting Aizen, NO ONE was there to see that, other than Ichigo. [ Am I right? ]
SO HOW did Tsukishima get in there? XDDD
nah i was dying when i saw that each time it showed him somewhere i would just say *Insert Random ass Tsukishima here!*,i feel as though the flow of this arc is better then the manga
Feb 8, 2012 8:47 PM

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I wonder if this will be the final arc in the anime. It is like the shortest arc in the anime and the next one is going to be like the same size as aizen's arc and we all know that took up the majority of the series.

They could very well make a 2nd adaptation of bleach. Since the final arc is going to go in a completely different and new direction.
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Feb 9, 2012 1:06 PM

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Aizen would have killed that bastard Tsukishima with one swing.
Feb 9, 2012 1:39 PM

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I want Bankai back.
And what the hell happened to Kon?
+, his father is acting all mysterious.

You know I don't think anyone noticed he was missing at all. He's just such a shitty character I think it would be best to scrap him. It'd be nice if they did that actually.
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Feb 9, 2012 1:56 PM

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i must say i really liked this ep, its finally starting to have some action.. cant wait to see next things animated ^_^
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Am I the only one who feels like they're just dragging it out so they don't catch up to the manga as fast? >.>

well manga being on hiatus for 3 weeks, that is quite possible..
Feb 9, 2012 8:15 PM

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It's starting to get interesting again, now that Ichigo has some powers..
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Feb 10, 2012 1:50 AM

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Damn, I'm seriously loving how great these parts of the arc are being animated, been done really well. Tsukishima being in all the events that everyone has been through so far, those scenes were made pacing flow quite nicely. What I really loved was the fight in this episode. Ichigo used his Fullbring and his 'shunpo' was so fast, reminded of his Bankai speed and how he fought Byakuya. Also the OST that played when they were fighting, so epic.

Fullbring Arc Anime > Fullbring Manga imo. Actually liking Fullbring Arc more than I had in the manga.
Feb 10, 2012 2:12 PM

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i was laughing so much when they were showing the past with Tsukishima, it was so random and it felt like he was a photobomber, but an anime version.
the omake was really good too


Feb 11, 2012 6:47 AM

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Awesome! Maybe now ichigo can kill everyone along with tsukishima. I found most of the supporting cast up to now quite annoying. bleach seriously needs a reboot with all new supporting cast to be fresh.. out with the old and in with the new I say. KILL, KILL THEM ALL!!!!!!!!! except maybe yuzu.

Ok i think i stop now and take my medication.

Jokes aside, was a pretty good ep. Loved how ichigo reaction from everything. he can be so serious and his face expressions are just lol.

Feb 12, 2012 9:57 PM

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I wonder if this will be the final arc in the anime. It is like the shortest arc in the anime and the next one is going to be like the same size as aizen's arc and we all know that took up the majority of the series.

They could very well make a 2nd adaptation of bleach. Since the final arc is going to go in a completely different and new direction.
Well, let's just hope it doesn't really come to that right now...If Bleach goes away suddenly like Katekyo Hitman Reborn, the anime world might be in an uproar.
Feb 12, 2012 10:52 PM

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Wow Ichigo is even stronger than he was a soul reaper.

Ichigo might have kill his own friends to kill Tsukishima.

what, no way, he's strong, but I highly doubt he was stronger than when he was a soul reaper, the whole point of this process is to get his powers back, which in turn, when he does, he'll keep his current powers, and add on to his soul reaper powers. So no, he isn't stronger than before, but he will be when he gets his old powers back.
Feb 14, 2012 10:20 AM

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I'll have to follow the anime more close than I did the manga since I got a bit lost with who the antagonist really was in that.
Feb 14, 2012 10:00 PM

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somehow this arc is more tolerable than it was in the manga. still rather bad.

better off just watching though, less wait and bore than plodding through the manga.
Feb 15, 2012 4:32 AM

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It's a little weird to see Ichigo with a normal sized sword!
Feb 21, 2012 11:58 PM

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Feb 22, 2012 8:34 PM

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Oh and that scene where Ichigo was fighting Aizen, NO ONE was there to see that, other than Ichigo. [ Am I right? ]
SO HOW did Tsukishima get in there? XDDD


Then that would mean he was actually there now wouldn't it... didn't you see him... over by the rock? Ichigo is obviously the one with the memory troubles. Lol

Seriously though, it was so funny how Tsukishima was inserted in all those scenes unscathed and reading a book while everyone else is completely into the moments.

Thanks to Iri for the awesome Signature!! ^^
Mar 14, 2012 3:01 AM

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It was hard for me to buy this story, sadly the Omake was even better
Mar 21, 2012 7:36 AM

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Saruwatari-Ayumu said:
the anime for this arc is deffinitely better than the manga!
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Wow, Ichigo has to fight against his own friends to get to Tsukishima, things are getting intense now! Really love how they are animating these scenes!


Abs agreed! I still wonder what Urahara and Ichigo's father were doing and I cant wait to see Rukia appearing again.
The episdoe was great as usual, I've wanted to see this kind of battle for a long time.
5/5
Apr 11, 2012 9:11 PM

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The intro and the initial recap took a full 5 minutes. That is over 20% of the episode. You also have think of the ending credits at a full minute and a half. That is 6.5 minutes of 24 minutes worth of original content. Over 3/4 of this episode was a repeat and this isn't out of the ordinary.

That being said, I think the parts with Ichigo going insane were too drawn out and predictable, but the fight redeemed this episode. What got me in to Bleach to begin with was the intense music and the fight scenes where Ichiigo showcases new power. This episode definitely delivered.

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Really interesting and definitely some of the better episodes since the end of Aizen.
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