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Feb 7, 2012 2:25 AM

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Another great episode! Can't wait for the next one. I'm still wondering the reason why Misaki has the doll's eye.
Feb 7, 2012 2:30 AM

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he should now start asking question from the library dude...
Feb 7, 2012 2:36 AM

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It feels so short! I felt this ep was 3 minutes!
Feb 7, 2012 2:36 AM

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hmm... anyone thinking same like me?

1. Why Sakakibara family has come back to their city? (as we know their live at Tokyo)
my answer : this is just in from my point, Sakakibara mother die because she had Sakakibara, isnt it? i think the curse on his mother is moving because he is dead and the school goverment transfer his into same class like his mother, 9th grade class 3.

2. What a reason to Misaki Mei make dont exist in that class?
my answer : Because Sakakibara has transfer to that class and the another reason you can see in last minute of this episode.

3. Who are Teacher making this way? to making someone dont exist in that class to backup are amount of stundent in that class are same like 26 years ago
my answer : i think the girl teacher has meet him in stair

4. Why the curse started?
my answer : in this case someone in 1st page has answer in right correctly in my point of view as viewer, Nyiari.

But i have more bigger question why they making Misaki Mei as unexist people?
Feb 7, 2012 2:42 AM

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Finally some mysteries are cleared around Class 3.
*sigh* but people continue dying. Poor Takabayashi-kun. Wonder who's going to be next. Those students should have explained Kouichi the situation beforehand, not when his new classmates started dying one by one "by accident".

And has anyone noticed how much Kouichi resembles Keichi from Higurashi?
Feb 7, 2012 2:46 AM

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some bigger mystery will be comming in 6th episode... while Sakakibara and Mei shake hand? they coperate or?
Feb 7, 2012 2:54 AM

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Wow. This anime really has great potential. Can't wait for Episode 6. 5/5
Feb 7, 2012 3:32 AM
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VanillaIceCream said:
What I don't get, though, is why has the curse started again? Is it because Koichi joined the class? And if so, could it mean Koichi himself is dead?

the beginning of ep 1 he was in hospital apparently recovering soooooo this ending seems likely amirite?
Feb 7, 2012 3:49 AM

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Well, Sakakibara is most likely the ghost here. He's the extra student, he's had that lung thing, they've asked him if he's been in the city before, but on top of that, he has been present at every single death incident.

1. umbrella in school
2. elevator via telephone
3. heart attack by the river
4. (glass accident on the streets), although none of them was hurt. maybe that was a coincidence.

If he continues to be around when people die, there is no other way than him being the ghost :-)
Feb 7, 2012 3:57 AM

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Series turns better since previous episodes. OP is still shit and I know most of spoilers but Misaki is damn cute.
Feb 7, 2012 4:12 AM
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wow that episode felt so short!! but some good information came out of it.
looking forward to the next episodes, HOPE IT ISNT THE END OF GORY DEATHS!
Feb 7, 2012 4:13 AM

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Great ep. Loved finding out that Mei was not a ghost.
Feb 7, 2012 4:27 AM

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Like others said, this episode was short! I was like 'oh, it's the end? where was that 24 minutes?'
And Mei is a real person.
But there are two 'ghosts' in the class now.
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Feb 7, 2012 4:37 AM

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Interesting turn of events and now at least it's somewhat understandable why the class wants to keep quiet. Though, knowing my own temperament, I would have probably started singing some morbid song to see how far the other's can continue to ignore me, the teacher can't tell you to keep quiet if you don't exist, right? Following that line of thought, I wonder how Sakakibara-san would get grades now and graduate.

I'm sad that we are almost at the middle, I could watch another 12 episodes. 4/5, eagerly awaiting how events will unfold.
Feb 7, 2012 4:41 AM

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i understand why the dead start ...
classs 3 want to act that mei misaki is not exist to stop the dead curse but sakakibara think that misaki exist .
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Feb 7, 2012 4:42 AM

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I doubt Sakakibara is the dead guy. I'm wondering what role his mother will play in all of this?
Feb 7, 2012 4:55 AM

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Cool Episode, This is getting better and better. Next episode is gonna be romance but I predict the show's gonna end in a tragedy
Feb 7, 2012 5:00 AM

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that was the ultimate mindf#@k plot turnaround since blood-c! this show just keeps getting better with each episode - it's very refreshing to finally watch a new anime where you really don't know what will happen next! also blows my mind every week just how beautiful the character design/art/direction is on this - perfect mix of dark colors and sombre environments - when japanese horror is well done, it just can't be beat for sheer creepiness!
Modified by octal9, Feb 7, 2012 5:03 AM
Feb 7, 2012 5:01 AM

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Aw, I felt sorry for Sakakibara in this ep. People are dying all over the place and he had no idea what was going on. Now, the rest of the class apart from Mei are treating him like he doesn't exist. Poor guy. Even if they told him after he first spoke to Mei, I doubt the curse would have stopped. Don't think nothing can stop it now unless they find this 'dead person'. Love this anime.
Feb 7, 2012 5:02 AM

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So that's why "Another" is called another.

There's something i dont fully understand thought, how is the new student supoded to follow the class rules if anyone tell him about what they are?
Feb 7, 2012 5:05 AM

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that strange word in Misaki's desk "who is dead?"
so who is the extra person in the class? mei or kouichi?

so this episode's death is by heart attack. it surprised me when he(forgot the name) want to say something about mei misaki but suddenly died LOL

i thought this anime will be purely thrilling horror, but later it added some romantic haha never mind, just enjoy watching it
Feb 7, 2012 5:18 AM

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I dont know why but I'm really relieved that Mei exists.

A ghost plot with her as the ghost would have been too obvious so it's nice that she is indeed real.

A romance budding from this wouldnt be a bad thing but is it not going to cause the deaths to continue if they both treat each other as people that exist?

Just how I see it anyway.

Feb 7, 2012 5:31 AM

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I didn't fully understand this episode. It was confusing to the point that i'm guessing who's dead and who's not. Apart from that, mei said that there was an extra student or something and in order to prevent the class from loosing it's said students, the students must ignore the transferred student which is Sakakibara. This is getting interesting. Well, Let's see next week.
Feb 7, 2012 5:46 AM

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fanks_177 said:
that strange word in Misaki's desk "who is dead?"
Best to take note of that. It's really important in regards to Mei later on. Just a heads up.

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Feb 7, 2012 6:28 AM

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Feb 7, 2012 7:06 AM

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and another one died probably another person will die next episode and i think Misaki is really dead she lies!
Feb 7, 2012 7:08 AM
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So Misaki isn't a ghost, just an ignored girl... Pretty disappointing, but hey, the whole story turned out pretty interesting.

Huh, wait, Sakakibara didn't ignore Mei and he's still alive. So either he IS the dead guy, or... he's just special.
Feb 7, 2012 7:14 AM

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Cool episode!!!
Misaki gave us ansewrs about what happend 26 years ago, and how the curse start affect the other Class 3 of the upcoming years!!

And now what I understand, I hope that I'm right in this:
So there is a dead one(extra person), each year in the class and the students must choose someone from their classmates, and threat him/her as ''non-exist'', so the dead one will not activate the curse, and each month someone or a member of family of a classmate dosen't die.But since Kouichi, is speaking with Mei the ''charm'' of their ''protection'' is not that powerful so every month one of the students will die or someone of their family
And now because two people die in one month, the students(more importantly Izumi), decide to treat Kouichi as ''non-exist'' so their ''charm'' will protect them more...
The ''dead one'' or ''extra person'' is someone who has died from previous years,and now is coming as an ''extra'' in the class, but he/she doen't know that he/she is dead and he/she alters the memories of theirselves and everyone's in the town!!!!
Feb 7, 2012 7:14 AM

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I was thinking Kouichi could already be dead but ... no?

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Feb 7, 2012 7:30 AM

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I'm soooo confused:P and at the same time i understand.. well that's weird...
Feb 7, 2012 7:37 AM

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Just watched the episode... Awesome.. Best one so far, and there is no strange death..

This is getting complicated but I think that it's getting little predictable too...

Somehow I get a feeling that they will start working together and break the curse.

Too bad that there is no romance. Mei and Kouichi... So cute...

I am glad Mei isn't dead, since I really like her, and it would be weird if she's dead :D

Looking forward for the next episode... Can't wait...
Feb 7, 2012 7:43 AM

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Wordsmith said:
Some of my suspicions became truth this episode.
I expected the treatment of mei to be some kind of counterreaction to the girl who died but was kept alive. I DIDN'T expect that kouichi now got the same treatment, but it looks like it works out for the better: He's getting closer to Mei. (I'm really starting to ship them)

I expect that they will now start to look for the dead person (I suspect the male teacher - he teaches like a Zombie XD)

Also, one question:

I'm not into disabled girls - at all!


Well, it's not fair to disabled people what you said....

I actually know one very cute girl without one eye (she had eye cancer )... She always wears eyepatch (similar to the one Mei is wearing). I actually like her very much... Her healthy eye is so beautiful, bright blue, like ocean... Anyway I am going off topic...

To answer to what I put in bold...

Yes she is... Especially in the ending in that red dress... :D
Feb 7, 2012 7:53 AM

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It'd be too obvious if Kouichi was the dead one. I think he needs to talk to Mei's mother.

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Feb 7, 2012 7:57 AM

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I was questioning another at first, but am liking it now. Hopefully it doesn't go to shit all of a sudden.
Feb 7, 2012 8:04 AM

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It is hard to guess who the another one is if you didn't read the manga or novel as it is just unpredictable, at least for now. I won't spoil it here, it is distasteful.
Feb 7, 2012 8:04 AM

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Revelations, revelations, revelations!!

On a side note, MISAKI IS SO MOE!!! HNNNGGGGG!!!
Feb 7, 2012 9:52 AM

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Wow, much larger info dump than I was anticipating.

I find it odd that Takabayashi died right as he was about to reveal something about Mei. I'm still not willing to dismiss my suspicions about Mei, though it's nice that she and Kouichi have one another to rely on now.

Is it just me, or does Mei seem less pale in the latter half of the episode than before?
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Feb 7, 2012 10:49 AM
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1st it's the 4 eye girl.
2nd it's the nurse.
Now it's Takabayashi.
Who would be next in the RIP list?
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Feb 7, 2012 11:11 AM

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VanillaIceCream said:
Sir_Lexa said:
VanillaIceCream said:
What I don't get, though, is why has the curse started again? Is it because Koichi joined the class? And if so, could it mean Koichi himself is dead?

Cause he didn't ignore Misaki. Probably.

Oh wait, that makes sense now. Still, I'm really curious to find out who the dead person is. I hope we find out before the very last episode.

It doesn't make sense to me. If they can ignore a leaving human in the place of the dead then what matters is the number and not that they have the dead right? So shouldn't his arrival in the class disrupt that number? Or it doesn't matter how many people they have but only that they ignore one person as a replacement for the dead one? But if that is the case shouldn't that be disrupt too now that they are ignoring two people? This makes no sense.

Also why the hell didn't they tell him this from the start. They seemed like they tried to hide it because of a reason but now that we know there doesn't seem to be much of a reason not telling him immediately the way the class operates and why. Anyone knowing nothing would of-course become curious of why the girl he sees in the class seems to be non existing to the others. Couldn't they figure that out, did they really thought he will ignore her instead of getting curious?

Another last thing is why the hell are all acting like zombies at certain moments if they are alive? Do you remember the non-reaction when he was presented at the class. Everyone was just sitting there with dead eyes. What the hell was all that about? Just to make a creepy atmosphere? That bad directing.

Anyway did anyone die before he entered the class? I imagine they didn't ignore her from the first day as she said they started ignoring her recently. So did anyone die? If it did then there was a dead person already in the class before our main arrived and so there is a strong possibility that he ain't dead and definitely not the single dead person if he is dead.

As about finding the person. Can't they just measure their pulse or something? The dead person may have a body and mind but it can't have a beating heart and staff to or else it's basically alive and shouldn't be called a dead person. So just check for a heart beat and breathing. Is it really that hard?
And does not having a class 3 failed? Just ignore the class altogether and the room. I get that the class 3 students moving classroom might not save them but from next year it might start working since no students will become class 3 students.

One last thing was the strange dialog about his mother. The guy talking to him seemed to have a different idea about when his mother died. That must have been a clew.
Modified by Monad, Feb 7, 2012 12:25 PM
Feb 7, 2012 11:31 AM

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err some of this just doesn't make sense.

HOW CAN HE GO BY THE CLASS RULES IF NOBODY WILL TELL HIM WHAT THEY ARE? so they ignore him after he asks questions that nobody will or can answers? shouldn't they just tell him by the rules he can't ask questions now?

eyepatch girl isn't a guy just the "ignored one", okay I get it they have to ignore one person to offset the casualties. now with the deaths and 2 ignored people shouldn't that fuck up the ruleset again?

the tsundere girl probably won't die for a while but I can't see her doing a good job.
Feb 7, 2012 11:41 AM

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Great episode!

Though I really don't think that Sakakibara is the dead person. If they had already exceeded the original number of people in class 3 by 1 from the very start (which they had, hence everyone ignoring poor Mei), that would mean the dead person has been there since the beginning of the term, when Sakakibara wasn't present. If this is true, people would've died once every month if neither Mei nor anyone else in class 3 had been picked as the scapegoat of the ostracizing, whether Sakakibara was to join them later on or not.

Looking forward to next week!
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Feb 7, 2012 11:50 AM

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Kouichi was already included in the class list before he got sick. He didn't transfer after he was sick.

They probably didn't tell him from the start because they had mixed thoughts about it. Before May 1, some might have thought that the curse wasn't true and all that. Also, maybe Misaki's cousin's death was a start of why they slowly believed in it and put their countermeasure in effect. (Which makes me think...what if Fujioka Misaki was in class 3 with Mei? Or perhaps it's just her connection with Mei that indirectly caused her death?) I mean, it might be that Fujioka Misaki was the student with no desk and chair or something...=.=
Somehow, it does matter to them how many students there are in the class. An increase would trigger deaths, so they brought the charm plan to action.

As to about the pulse checking, I think it might not work. It seems like not your ordinary zombie. I guess, it might be more appropriate that the "dead person" was temporarily resurrected. He or she can breathe, act like a really alive person, eat, etc...It defies all logic of being a zombie (if there's even a logic of being a zombie).

Also, I think, even if they skip in labeling a class as "third class" like people had stopped labeling the fourth floor in the elevator as "4," there would still be a "concrete" third class in count.

What I meant is that, even if they omit the third class and just go by 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th class, there is still a "third class," when you count the classes NOT by what they're labeled in.

Like this:
1st class=1
2nd class=2
4th class=3
5th class=4

And about his mother...if she died 15 years ago, it might be because SOMEONE related to her was in class 3. And somehow, the only thing I could think of as related to her at that time was her sister, Reiko.
Modified by witchhuntress, Feb 7, 2012 11:54 AM

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Feb 7, 2012 12:07 PM

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This episode was so confluzzing. I felt sorry for that boy who went through that heart attack.
The class rules just make no sense especially when Sakakibara is like WTF why are you all ignoring me. I think there is a chance that Sakakibara could be one who isn't alive but I still think Mei is behind it.
Feb 7, 2012 12:13 PM

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It was surprising - I almost believed that Mei don't exist. And I had a feeling that the next person who will die is that guy with heart disease - it was predictable. But it seems that he died because he broke the class rules - this show is getting more and more similiar to Higurashi.
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What I don't get is that when it shows the other students looking at Sakakibara-kun when he's talking to Mei, it shows Sakakibara-kun by himself. That makes it seem like Mei is a figment of his imagination. Did the class just will themselves to literally not see Mei anymore? It's confusing. :o
Feb 7, 2012 12:31 PM

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Queen_Stars said:
BossLuffy said:
I wish the MC would nail that red-head girl already... >:I

The tsundere with the pigtails? If so, why rush?
I'm willing to place a bet that if this series continues down the mass death path, the 'cute tsundere' will be there at the end.
Oh yeah I am hoping to see her as a cute tsundere somewhere down the line, she's got such a potential to be great lol.

Now that all the concerning mystery about Mei is gone, and she started showing some emotions. She's actually really cute and can be very moe (as seen in the preview). Hmm... looks like she really does exist. I wonder how she got chosen to be the nonexistent person in the first place. And now that Kouichi has joined her ranks, looks like she's really loosening up. Looking forward to next episode, looks like they are gunna spend much more time together.

Great to finally find out what the secret was. Very intriguing mystery, I like it. My guess for the dead person is going to be Kouichi or that glasses student, Kazami. He looks so dull and dead just like that teacher.
Feb 7, 2012 1:05 PM
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One thing I am still having trouble understanding. People are complaining he broke the rules.

Can someone tell me which episode they tell him the rules, cause from what I watched, it was basically, we're keeping them a secret and wtf, why didn't you know the rules??

MC: Cause you never actually told me them!

I know he gets calls and the guy says, don't take to things that don't exist, but it really feels like they basically are annoyed that he started it, but never made the effort to explain.

Or is it just bad translation?

EDIT: Didn't see page 7 and it seems 3 other people have the same question.
Modified by Kendjin, Feb 7, 2012 1:10 PM
Feb 7, 2012 1:09 PM
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I think we should be more critical about what Mei said and take eveything with a grain of salt. The supposed curse is merely a hypothesis and will be one for the foreseeable future since the supernatural can't be scientifically proven.

The countermeasure the class has decided on can be seen as a desperate attempt to save what still can be saved. There's no evidence that it will work especially since it is stated that the string of casualties can't be stopped once started.
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Feb 7, 2012 1:14 PM
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"And about his mother...if she died 15 years ago, it might be because SOMEONE related to her was in class 3. And somehow, the only thing I could think of as related to her at that time was her sister, Reiko."

A line in this episode was....

Reiko: I don't remember it was 15 years ago and I hate that bird. (which asks her why?)

This means that her sister died cause of her being in that class. The librarian knows the rumors and now knows what happened.
Modified by Kendjin, Feb 7, 2012 1:29 PM
Feb 7, 2012 1:27 PM

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Kendjin said:
Can someone tell me which episode they tell him the rules, cause from what I watched, it was basically, we're keeping them a secret and wtf, why didn't you know the rules??

MC: Cause you never actually told me !

They never told him outright. They're going in circles, squares, whatever about it. =.=

Yeah, it's their terrible projection to Kouichi actually. Although Akazawa regrets about it, she doesn't say it's not Kouichi's fault either (or did she?). Anyway, I do believe Reiko 15 years ago being in third class has a somewhat connection to Ritsuko's death. After all, there's nobody plausible who could be connected to her at that time (and it's unlikely that there's somebody not introduced to us yet that's related to Kouichi's mother at that time? Cousins? Nahhh =.=).
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