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Feb 2, 2012 10:47 PM
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I can say that I didn't see it coming, as I haven't watched Code Geass. Hare was a good character but I believe this was a necessary turn of events for Shu to change his ways.

As for Shu's emotions in the end and beating the crap out of Souta, that much I expected. It reminded me a lot more of the ending to Kami-sama no Memo-chou when


Now just to see where it develops from here.
 
Feb 2, 2012 11:00 PM
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This was by far one of the best episodes of the series, apart from Hare dying of course but because that happened, I believe Shu's personality will significantly change. I dont believe that he's going to become another 'Lelouch' because from the start Shu was a good person, and once he finally accepts Hare's death, I'm sure he will become an awesome leader. So I dont think he will die in the end like Lelouch, also how the hell is this another Code Geass?! They're completely different!

Im looking forward to seeing how his powers will grow and more character development, but I think Inori or something/someone else will get him back from being a 'ruthless' king.

And one more thing, has anyone else besides me thought about what Shu's void would be and if it will come out before the end of the series?
 
Feb 2, 2012 11:17 PM

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And one more thing, has anyone else besides me thought about what Shu's void would be and if it will come out before the end of the series?
Miracle Reviver. Revives all people that died in Shu's presence by re-materializing them. It would make me very happy to say the least.

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Feb 2, 2012 11:26 PM
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Yumekichi11 said:
Gui1ty_Cr0wn said:
And one more thing, has anyone else besides me thought about what Shu's void would be and if it will come out before the end of the series?
Miracle Reviver. Revives all people that died in Shu's presence by re-materializing them. It would make me very happy to say the least.
I could see how that would work but I dont think it would be something simple as that, I was actually hoping for an awesome sword or something but that probably wont happen either lol
 
Feb 2, 2012 11:46 PM

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Cirris said:
Shu is developing into an asshole, not a badass. .
 
Feb 2, 2012 11:49 PM

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WOW! I was not expecting any of that! Hare is really gone! And she was always such a supportive character for Shu! Poor Inori, she looked like she was being violated by Shu when he pulled out her void. Wonder how the rest of this will end up. Really good episode though!
 
Feb 3, 2012 12:07 AM

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Was Inori knocked out? Because I thought that Shu was able to extract voids without having the person lose consciousness... Moving episode btw first time I have cried in a while, silent deaths seem to have more of an emotional impact for me... Ohh well no more Hare x Shu could either be Shu x Inori or Shu x Ayase
 
Feb 3, 2012 12:09 AM

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Hare dead =( Not that I didn't see it coming, but still very sad. Shu got a Heroic BSOD over it, maybe even past the Despair Event Horizon. I think, quite a few episodes will now be with BSOD!-Shu, him getting things in school in order and then taking the battle to the enemy. ofc, in the end, Inori will get him out of this.

On a side note, I think Code Geass was mentioned more often in the thread than in the entire CG forum... I'm gonna turn Shu on everyone who says it again... I mean, it's not like I didn't hear it the past 5 million times you mentioned it...
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Feb 3, 2012 12:13 AM
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shirohara said:
Cirris said:
Shu is developing into an asshole, not a badass. .


Agreed all these people wanting mains to be badass are retarded, It gets used too much in anime.
Fuck why did they kill off Hare FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK. I mean Gai dying was good i loved it since he was a douche bag anyway.
This episode made me both sad and angry but i hate to say it its one of the best episodes behind ep 4.
 
Feb 3, 2012 12:34 AM

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Shu basically turned Lelouch on us.

I feel really bad for Shu, he basically cracked.


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Feb 3, 2012 12:58 AM

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FUCK! WHY!???!? MAN THIS NEW SHU BETTER FUCKING BE MORE BADASS!
 
Feb 3, 2012 1:18 AM

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Okay, to be honest. I was emotionally saddened to what happened to Hare.

At least, GC can do drama right. Now, if only they can stop doing shit like a van evading missiles.
 
Feb 3, 2012 1:20 AM

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Awesome episode, haters can hate but as far as improvement it was the best i think they could have fit into one episode and along with episode 4 was one of the best episodes of the series.

I hope I'm reading to much into this, but i hope they don't pull some crap like Gai coming back, when his second in command or who ever the guy with the glasses was playing chess said if he wins he will get to see "him", hopefully its some new guy or someone other than Gai, this show is most likely the most criticized show I've ever seen, they pull something like that and there will be no end to the fire.

I wonder is it a bad thing that my favorite part of the episode was Shu beating the crap out of that loser? That along with Shu ripping out Inori's void then destroying all the Endlaves, even stabbing a already broken one (since i think the pilots nerves or senses are connected right? so they can feel the pain?)

shirohara said:
Cirris said:
Shu is developing into an asshole, not a badass. .


Why? because he beat the crap out of a loser who's stupid pride got someone killed? because he implemented a system which causes needed organization at the price of what... feelings? Life ain't always sunshine and happy days, the fact that he realized that nice guys finish last in the apocalyptic scenario the better.

Also by defintion of "badass" haven't you ever seen a sadistic "badass"? you know the slasher smile characters; wouldn't those still be considered badass? you don't have to be morally sound to be "badass"

Is his system gonna make him look like an "asshole" ya, its a simple plot device, which after a while will most likely make him see his wrongs or something like that, but even though it was predictable by the episode title alone, it was still effective in my opinion.

Well next episode is called "Tyrant" so him being cruel and having asshole tendencies is to be expected, but i still think its an improved change, because while he will never even begin to touch Lelouch's character, Lelouch was a asshole at times and still (MAL alone shows this) one of the most popular characters ever, so i think the development in his character won't totally recoil from the expected "tyrant" behavior.
 
Feb 3, 2012 1:38 AM

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First off going to say I didn't expect it.. completely.. I mean she did raise quiet a few flags but being as loved as she was didnt see it (or at least didnt want it to happen).

This anime is by far one of my favs ATM, I can only stress that 22 eps is not enough!

I am a bit worried however, As bad ass as Evil/Besreker Shu is i don't really want him to be a complete asshole of a king - to toy with peoples lives and simple not give a shit about them ( I don't see this happening but still scares me!)

I'll be honest the first umm 12 eps were rather slow, i still loved it non the less but i did feel like it was missing some good action/drama (In my opinion).. whats been happening lately and epically now.. leaves me speechless, I don't think i can wait 1 week!

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Feb 3, 2012 1:50 AM

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Awesome episode, haters can hate but as far as improvement it was the best i think they could have fit into one episode and along with episode 4 was one of the best episodes of the series.

I hope I'm reading to much into this, but i hope they don't pull some crap like Gai coming back, when his second in command or who ever the guy with the glasses was playing chess said if he wins he will get to see "him", hopefully its some new guy or someone other than Gai, this show is most likely the most criticized show I've ever seen, they pull something like that and there will be no end to the fire.

I wonder is it a bad thing that my favorite part of the episode was Shu beating the crap out of that loser? That along with Shu ripping out Inori's void then destroying all the Endlaves, even stabbing a already broken one (since i think the pilots nerves or senses are connected right? so they can feel the pain?)

shirohara said:
Cirris said:
Shu is developing into an asshole, not a badass. .


Why? because he beat the crap out of a loser who's stupid pride got someone killed? because he implemented a system which causes needed organization at the price of what... feelings? Life ain't always sunshine and happy days, the fact that he realized that nice guys finish last in the apocalyptic scenario the better.

Also by defintion of "badass" haven't you ever seen a sadistic "badass"? you know the slasher smile characters; wouldn't those still be considered badass? you don't have to be morally sound to be "badass"

Is his system gonna make him look like an "asshole" ya, its a simple plot device, which after a while will most likely make him see his wrongs or something like that, but even though it was predictable by the episode title alone, it was still effective in my opinion.

Well next episode is called "Tyrant" so him being cruel and having asshole tendencies is to be expected, but i still think its an improved change, because while he will never even begin to touch Lelouch's character, Lelouch was a asshole at times and still (MAL alone shows this) one of the most popular characters ever, so i think the development in his character won't totally recoil from the expected "tyrant" behavior.


Actually my original post said a lot more than the snippet that was quoted. My comments was based on his treatment of Inori when he wanted her void, plus his statements after smacking Shouta around.

Also, his actions aren't really grounded at all. His actions are merely a weak little boy who can't cope with the loss of a dear friend and is snapping on anyone who gets in his way.

To me, badass do things in a manly way that people can get behind. I REALLY don't see the rest of the group going "you go Shu!" it's more like "WTF, he's gone psycho!"
 
Feb 3, 2012 2:51 AM

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/cue Shu Yagami or Shu vi Brittania

Anyways, I loved the episode. So when Segai was playing chess with Shibungi. What does everyone think by "If I win, I get to see him."? COULD GAI BE ALIVE?! WOOHOO!
 
Feb 3, 2012 2:54 AM

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Shit just got real.

I wonder what's going to happen next :)
 
Feb 3, 2012 2:55 AM
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Oh the irony. Hare loved him and saved him because he was the "kind king", and here he goes "kindness is pointless" after she dies.
Shu acted simply cruel. He surely isn't charismatic now, so he's still no badass leader like Gai. But it's episode 15 out of 22, he'll surely get more developments.
 
Feb 3, 2012 2:58 AM
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Shu's scream after Hare died was just so lame and weak that it ruined the atmosphere after her death really bad

and although I didn't really have anything against this show in the beginning now it's completely different. The more episodes I watch, the harder I can keep watching this, though this wont drop to less than a 6 on my rating scale, but it seems it may not even be worth of a 4....
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Feb 3, 2012 3:06 AM

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Shits Gonna GO DOWN!
 
Feb 3, 2012 3:07 AM

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Woah O_O what a harsh episode...now Shu begins to remind me of Lelouch...just alittle though. Is Daryl turning more kind as he is falling for Tsugumi? Oh my oh my!
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Feb 3, 2012 3:10 AM

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Is Daryl turning more kind as he is falling for Tsugumi? Oh my oh my!


Wow, I never thought of it that way! SO THE PLOT THICKENS =O
 
Feb 3, 2012 3:12 AM

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What do you mean guyz buy "that's expected"? Omg, I didn't saw this coming! I love the way how Shu beated the crap out of Souta. EPIC episode is what i wanna say..
 
Feb 3, 2012 3:14 AM
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Fantastic episode :) although a bit sad.

i was wondering some people are mentioning a preview of the next episode but i cant seem to find it :(?
 
Feb 3, 2012 3:21 AM
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Shu's sudden dramatic character development seemed way too rushed and awkward. Would be more natural if his maturation was more gradual over a period of time, but it was like pussy to heartless hitler in one minute.
Haru dying was a tear jerker though and then you knew shit was going to hit the fan all because can opener boy needed some validation for his small pe n is.
 
Feb 3, 2012 3:22 AM

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Wowow. Shit just got serious. I kinda had a feeling there was gonna be some big turning point (judging from the OP) that would affect Shu emotionally, but I didn't expect it to be this. :(

poor Hare. /tear
 
Feb 3, 2012 3:23 AM

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another sloppy episode - what little enjoyment i had from this steadily goes down with every episode - not that it was horrible, just sort of...messy - also, killing of one of the few interesting characters (hare) was a bad idea - sort of felt like they were going for the whole tear-jerking thing and then the ending was just silly......
 
Feb 3, 2012 3:28 AM
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another sloppy episode - what little enjoyment i had from this steadily goes down with every episode - not that it was horrible, just sort of...messy - also, killing of one of the few interesting characters (hare) was a bad idea - sort of felt like they were going for the whole tear-jerking thing and then the ending was just silly......


yup because this anime has no fluidity
dramatic character development through one traumatizing event is so over used
it is a better episode but it's not saying much and certainly doesn't repair the dismal past episodes :|
especially that whole gai death/ mana thing
quite frankly i still don't get it
 
Feb 3, 2012 3:33 AM

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Shu finally SNAPPED !!

 
Feb 3, 2012 3:36 AM

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SSJ3Lunar said:
Kami565 said:
Is Daryl turning more kind as he is falling for Tsugumi? Oh my oh my!


Wow, I never thought of it that way! SO THE PLOT THICKENS =O
i really want daryl to leave the army and help out funeral parlor, but after hare's and gai's death the shows is starting to go into anyone can die territory. starting just not there yet, i mean i alrerady know shu has no chance in hell of surviving and sadly neither does ayase, so i dont think daryl will either

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
Feb 3, 2012 3:41 AM
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why? why must Hare die?!?!?!

well ..the best part is ...Shou became a total badass xD wuhoo ...but still I'm very sad for Hare's death >.< :'((
 
Feb 3, 2012 3:42 AM

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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said:

i really want daryl to leave the army and help out funeral parlor, but after hare's and gai's death the shows is starting to go into anyone can die territory. starting just not there yet, i mean i alrerady know shu has no chance in hell of surviving and sadly neither does ayase, so i dont think daryl will either


Do you really think Gai is dead though? I mean what was the deal with the chess between Segai and Shibungi? Shibungi said something along the lines of. "If I win I get to see him." So the only two people I can think he is talking about is Keido, Kenji, or Gai. So maybe Gai is alive somehow and just puts Shu in his place. xD
 
Feb 3, 2012 3:57 AM

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One of the best episodes. If this gets better and better I might give this show a 7.

Go Shuu!
 
Feb 3, 2012 3:59 AM

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This fucking sucks. Shu fucking sucks, plot device deaths suck. It's all Shu's fault, not Souta's. It's his fault for being naive idiot and pussy. if he didn't pulled voids out of them nothing would have happened but why, Shu is such type who always try to please everyone to not get hated and now he's using an excuse like "oh my friend died and I have all right to be complete douchebag hitler wannabe and abuse the shit out of others"
I hated this episode more than ep 12, Hare's death was total rip off and Shu's "development" was the clichest thing ever that happens over 9000 times in other animes, main guy goes all nuts and becomes total a$$hole after some chick's death.
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Feb 3, 2012 4:15 AM

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Wow.. just.. wow. Perhaps it's just me because I'm not an individual you're likely to meet, but when will animes stop using the.. I dunno.. actually fucking show some emotion? I didn't feel anything. Honestly, my whole expression during the episode didn't change at all.
Personally, I already had a feeling when she confessed, because anime these days loooove making a confession and then killing the character. "Here, feel my soft boobs." -Hare to Shu
And of course, the impulsive bastards who realllllly should stfu. I mean, you're ranked lowest which means you're useless, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO PROVE THAT.

-10000000/5 for the episode. Relentless, unreasonable, pointless, and unneeded death. Why the fuck do I have to see the confession > impulsive idiots with inferiority complex > death of someone that means something.

But you know I feel kinda mean.. I was munching popcorn while watching hare bleed and then disintegrate to death.
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Feb 3, 2012 4:21 AM

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Man, Guilty Crown never fails at keeping me on the edge of my seat.

WHAT A FANTASTIC EPISODE!

I feel that since Shu has pretty much snapped; he's probably going down the road of self-destruction.
 
Feb 3, 2012 4:22 AM

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Nice episode I loved it cause Shu became epic there at the end. I lold when he raped pushed down Inori and took out her void by force LIKE A BOSS. xD

I was sad when Hare died, but Shu's reaction and the way he tried to scream or maybe he was choking or some shit I started laughing that really killed the mood imo. A regular scream would have made the scene more emotional.

Anyways 5/5 from me. Glad I decided to get caught up this morning.
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Feb 3, 2012 4:26 AM

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finally it's berserk time.
 
Feb 3, 2012 4:27 AM
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Directors fault for making the great characters have to die :'(
Opening had to spoil the good parts
So depressed how you taken Gai and Hare.
This would be a long time to get over with :(
 
Feb 3, 2012 4:43 AM
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"We have to separate the good from the trash."

haha that is so crazy. Hare loves him as a kind king and after her death, he totally snaps and behaves the opposite way. I am really wondering what things will be like at the school next episode and how our evil king will behave. xD
Obviously, Shu won't stay like that forever, so it will be interesting to see how he changes again as well!!!
 
Feb 3, 2012 4:51 AM

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Looks like the great supporting character has to be sacrificed for the greater turn of the main character development...How ironic.
 
Feb 3, 2012 4:54 AM
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I am now waiting for him to go on a rampage and ruin everything that is in his way. This episode was a huge shock for the ending but it actually gave me chills to see him go to badass mode and take Inori's void to destroy.
 
Feb 3, 2012 5:08 AM

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shu in self-destruct mode, uh-oh. pity she died though :/
 
Feb 3, 2012 5:32 AM

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ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?! HARE DIED?! OMFG, NO JUST FUCKING NO! Seriously though, Hare was one of my favourite GC characters and seeing her die was so sad, especially her dying moments telling about a book she read, DAMMIT! Tears actually ran down my eyes during that bit. :S

Anyhow, Shu changed drastically after Hare died, holy shit that was awesome, despite it being very cliche. His eyes were so deadly and seeing him force Inori down and ripped the sword out of her chest was so fucking badass. Killing the Endlaves as if they were just grunts, overpowered King Shu. :D

Best episode so far imo. Damn, going to miss Hare. Looking forward to more badass Shu. If GC keeps this up, I'm sure it can redeem itself.
 
Feb 3, 2012 5:41 AM
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Shu's road to his new kingdom has begun, and all it needed was a trigger, a sacrifice of someone dear to him. However it was a surprising change that occur in a snap.
 
Feb 3, 2012 5:56 AM

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Well i can't say im surprised but its still sad to see her die after confessing. I really hate seeing that in anime tho im not using it as a knock on it. Shu went off the deep end as expected that he would. Not much for me to say about it. It does make things even more interesting going forward. More importantly how he is going to reign this in.
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I just watched ep 15. oh my god I almost cried! it was so sad to see Hare die and Shu's face when he sees her lying there.

But....I was happy to see how he dealt with the antibodies. they have heaps coming! Shu's no push over anymore.

Now it's pay back time, I can't wait to see what happens next!!
 
Feb 3, 2012 6:07 AM
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I have some question guys . hope you can answer that!

1.Does anyone know if its possible for shu to draw out more than one Void at once? Then hand it to the owner's of said void multiple times

2.And why inori always unconscious when shu take her void ?


for q:1 I'm not sure either

but for q:2 I think it has something to do with Inori's connection to Mana. still unsure though.
 
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I am totally shocked


Wait, wait, wait. You are telling me you didn't see this coming? Even though you see Shu and Inori on the cover of this show?? Did I mention Hare is listed as a "supporting" character?
Having cooled down a little, no I did not. I was thinking of Deus magically everyone get healed as much as it sounds cliche I wanted Hare to be by Shu's side. I did not want to believe because of my attachment to Hare. How hard it hit is still in me after the episode. It will take some hours to get over it. I liked a lot of Hare. Like I mention her sweet side especially this episode to Shu hit the hardest only to be destroyed by death.

Well they sure fucked me up emotionally those people who did this episode.


so true! I'm gonna miss Hare :( she was sooo kind.
 
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well now i understand why this series is called Guilty Crown

Good episode BTW

& Shu is like Turned into a Badass mode xD
 
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