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Jan 26, 2012 11:18 AM
#1
You know how almost every anime in existence has some type of fanservice? Whether it involves saunas, hot springs, pools, beaches, or even blatant things like cleavage, pantsu, or perverted jokes, there usually is at least one perverted aspect. While by "fanservice", I mainly mean perverted aspects, but feel free to talk about any type of fanservice. Now, I'm NOT looking for recommendations. I'm interested in hearing from you guys if there really aren't that much series that are completely clean. So, are there any series that you've seen without any fanservice whatsoever(or close to none)? This isn't really worth a thread, but I'm making this one anyway. I mean there are stupider things to make a thread about. |
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Jan 26, 2012 11:22 AM
#2
You're just watching the wrong genres. There's plenty of shows out there without any fanservice. |
Jan 26, 2012 11:31 AM
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Jan 26, 2012 11:40 AM
#4
So... you aren't asking if an anime without fanservice exists, you're asking if one without sexual fanservice, but things like unnecessary explosions are fine, right? Hmmm... I don't remember seeing any sexual stuff in the first 30 episodes of Legend of the Galactic Heroes (damn, I still need to finish that one), but other than that, unless you watch the kiddie shows (or rather, instead of the "normal" stuff aimed at 14-year-olds, the stuff aimed at 7-year-olds) you're bound to see cleavage eventually. |
Jan 26, 2012 11:44 AM
#5
Not that big of a challenge, but it's somewhat hard to find shows with ZERO fanservice, since about every show includes female characters. As for the following, they may have it, but I don't remember it. (not counting blood as fanservice, BTW) Ashita no Joe Baccano! Captain Tsubasa Grave of the Fireflies Hikaru no Go Inazuma Eleven Kaiji Legend of the Galactic Heroes Level E Mirai Shounen Conan Rainbow: Nisha Rokubou no Shichinin Saint Seiya Trigun Yojouhan Shinwa Taikei (only in 1 goddamn episode, but it's a part of the storyline) |
Tiago97Jan 26, 2012 12:07 PM
Jan 26, 2012 11:45 AM
#6
Arguably in many cases cleavage and jokes are not fan service in most cases. There's a lot of anime that have fanservice, but it's probably close to 10% of the total amount of anime. In fact, easy way to be sure to find one without it is to get rid of comedy and ecchi in your search criteria. Also take this case: Kimi ga Nozomu Eien is an anime that contains nudity, panties, cleavage and sex yet it is not "fanservice". Fanservice is a term specifically used in anime that contain obvious nods to the male audience in terms of panty shots, shredding of clothing, harem and so on. The elements themselves can, when presented differently be part of the plot and not be fanservice at all. I think you're misusing the term fanservice for anime that contain no sexual reference. There's also plenty of those. At least all childrens anime, shonen for the young, shojo, seinen and josei anime contain none of the elements you speak of. The genre used for fanservice is "ecchi" and to a certain extent also "hentai", but in that last case you probably can't call it fanservice anymore. |
Jan 26, 2012 11:49 AM
#7
AeonsLegend said: Fanservice is a term specifically used in anime that contain obvious nods to the male audience in terms of panty shots, shredding of clothing, harem and so on. The elements themselves can, when presented differently be part of the plot and not be fanservice at all. Not just sexual content, but as Wiki says: "Long full shots of robots in mecha shows, sexual elements, long fight scenes or violence, all can be considered fan service as they are specifically aimed to please the fans of any given show." |
Jan 26, 2012 11:53 AM
#8
Tiago97 said: I know, but the general accepted term "fanservice" is what I described. If you want to get technical, anything in an anime that is aimed at a specific group of people is fanservice. The wikipedia is not a comprehensive list either and in that case ALL anime have fanservice, so NO anime have fanservice because anime IS fanservice. I say, let's stick to something we can all agree on and not get inane.AeonsLegend said: Fanservice is a term specifically used in anime that contain obvious nods to the male audience in terms of panty shots, shredding of clothing, harem and so on. The elements themselves can, when presented differently be part of the plot and not be fanservice at all. Not just sexual content, but as Wiki says: "Long full shots of robots in mecha shows, sexual elements, long fight scenes or violence, all can be considered fan service as they are specifically aimed to please the fans of any given show." |
Jan 26, 2012 11:55 AM
#9
Kaiji is the first that comes to mind. i think there is only 1 female character in the entire 2 seasons and she only gets a few secs of screentime lol. but yea seems like 90% of anime has atleast some fanservice. Glad im not a hater XD |
Jan 26, 2012 12:24 PM
#10
I know there are lots of animes that doesn't have fanservice out there and I've seen a couple of them too. Frankly speaking, i prefer watching animes with fanservice in it. I find it really entertaining having those stuff added in cause sometimes they get so ridiculous that i just couldn't stop laughing my ass off. |
Jan 26, 2012 12:33 PM
#11
AeonsLegend said: Tiago97 said: I know, but the general accepted term "fanservice" is what I described. If you want to get technical, anything in an anime that is aimed at a specific group of people is fanservice. The wikipedia is not a comprehensive list either and in that case ALL anime have fanservice, so NO anime have fanservice because anime IS fanservice. I say, let's stick to something we can all agree on and not get inane.AeonsLegend said: Fanservice is a term specifically used in anime that contain obvious nods to the male audience in terms of panty shots, shredding of clothing, harem and so on. The elements themselves can, when presented differently be part of the plot and not be fanservice at all. Not just sexual content, but as Wiki says: "Long full shots of robots in mecha shows, sexual elements, long fight scenes or violence, all can be considered fan service as they are specifically aimed to please the fans of any given show." No. you described "ecchi" while being the most prevalent form of fanservice, fanservice is not limited to ecchi. What Taigo97 said does hold water. and fanservice can even be expanded to include the female audience not just the male. and No, this doesn't mean every anime has fanservice :D |
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Jan 26, 2012 12:39 PM
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Jan 26, 2012 12:47 PM
#13
usagi drops :) madoka magica (i think, can't remember haha) pokemon, digimon, bakugan... Bokura ga Ita (would be even more weird if it had fanservice hahaha) god to many to name haha |
Jan 26, 2012 12:48 PM
#14
Hexis said: No I described the general term "fanservice". I know it contains more than just ecchi, but when used to describe anything in general it is ecchi. And like I said, there's a problem with fanservice crossing genres like the wikipedia describes. Logically the description is flawed because it describes anything that pertains to a specific group of people, but that's the setup of all anime which defeats the purpose of classifying it entirely. All Anime is aimed at a specific group so all anime is fanservice. If it is fanservice it cannot contain fanservice. There's no two ways around this statement. This is why when talking about fanservice you should specify the type so it pertains to a specific genre. Like I said, without naming a genre it is generally used to define parts usually found in ecchi animeAeonsLegend said: Tiago97 said: I know, but the general accepted term "fanservice" is what I described. If you want to get technical, anything in an anime that is aimed at a specific group of people is fanservice. The wikipedia is not a comprehensive list either and in that case ALL anime have fanservice, so NO anime have fanservice because anime IS fanservice. I say, let's stick to something we can all agree on and not get inane.AeonsLegend said: Fanservice is a term specifically used in anime that contain obvious nods to the male audience in terms of panty shots, shredding of clothing, harem and so on. The elements themselves can, when presented differently be part of the plot and not be fanservice at all. Not just sexual content, but as Wiki says: "Long full shots of robots in mecha shows, sexual elements, long fight scenes or violence, all can be considered fan service as they are specifically aimed to please the fans of any given show." No. you described "ecchi" while being the most prevalent form of fanservice, fanservice is not limited to ecchi. What Taigo97 said does hold water. and fanservice can even be expanded to include the female audience not just the male. and No, this doesn't mean every anime has fanservice :D |
Jan 26, 2012 1:02 PM
#15
AeonsLegend said: I know it contains more than just ecchi, but when used to describe anything in general it is ecchi. this. while yes generally its ecchi stuff, but what im trying to say its not limited to that stuff. AeonsLegend said: And like I said, there's a problem with fanservice crossing genres like the wikipedia describes. Logically the description is flawed because it describes anything that pertains to a specific group of people, but that's the setup of all anime which defeats the purpose of classifying it entirely. All Anime is aimed at a specific group so all anime is fanservice. If it is fanservice it cannot contain fanservice. There's no two ways around this statement. This is why when talking about fanservice you should specify the type so it pertains to a specific genre. Like I said, without naming a genre it is generally used to define parts usually found in ecchi anime there is a stark difference between creating material for a specific audience, and creating things that the audience wants or likes. haha twilight comes to mind >.< guh. why did watch that. |
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Jan 26, 2012 1:33 PM
#16
Hexis said: Agreed. You create things an audience like and market it for a specific group of people. The people that liked the things you created. It's degrading words to the level of specification, it's not actually showing a flaw in my logic. Unless we go into the discussion on what is fanservice and it should be limited to elements inside an anime. For the sake of the argument let's accept that. This limits the use of anime as fanservice in my argument, but since the elements themselves aren't limited it could be anything and no anime would ever be created without containing something the targeted audience likes. This goes back to my original statement that all anime contain fanservice, which defeats the purpose of calling it fanservice. Since if anything could be fanservice there is no point in classifying it.there is a stark difference between creating material for a specific audience, and creating things that the audience wants or likes. |
Jan 26, 2012 1:42 PM
#17
Legend of the Galactic Heroes is probably one of the best examples. Sure, you do get lots of big battles full of pew pew and the occasional gore shots from inside collapsing ships, but all in all, the series focus less on the battles than most scifis would. You hardly ever get any of those fancy dogfighting sequences for example, even though a couple of the recurring characters are pilots. I guess the pretty pointless close combat with all it's gore might be a bit fanservice though. But again, hardly anything considering how little of it there actually is. |
Jan 26, 2012 1:52 PM
#18
-Solo said: You know how almost every anime in existence has some type of fanservice? Whether it involves saunas, hot springs, pools, beaches, or even blatant things like cleavage, pantsu, or perverted jokes, there usually is at least one perverted aspect. No. Case closed. |
Jan 26, 2012 1:59 PM
#19
AeonsLegend said: Hexis said: Agreed. You create things an audience like and market it for a specific group of people. The people that liked the things you created. It's degrading words to the level of specification, it's not actually showing a flaw in my logic. Unless we go into the discussion on what is fanservice and it should be limited to elements inside an anime. For the sake of the argument let's accept that. This limits the use of anime as fanservice in my argument, but since the elements themselves aren't limited it could be anything and no anime would ever be created without containing something the targeted audience likes. This goes back to my original statement that all anime contain fanservice, which defeats the purpose of calling it fanservice. Since if anything could be fanservice there is no point in classifying it.there is a stark difference between creating material for a specific audience, and creating things that the audience wants or likes. Ok so from what I understand, you are saying that if we broaden the definition of fanservice to include elements that the viewer likes, every anime can be fanservice because every anime has things we like, and therefore defeating the purpose of having it as a classification. I will try to give a better example of Hexis said: creating things that the audience wants or likes. Lets assume most guys like breasts. Now based on what you said, any anime with breasts would constitute fanservice, but why is that not the case? Because fanservice usually entails hyperbolized reality. So an anime with huge breasted girls would be considered fanservice. Similar logic can be applied to other cases to differentiate between where something is added as fanservice or not. |
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Jan 26, 2012 2:05 PM
#20
If you specifically want an absence of sexual fanservice then Studio Ghibli is probably the best place to start, except for Nausicaa Of The Valley Of The Wind. There are lots of upskirt shots, and Nausicaa is always flying about without underwear, which certainly catches the eye (no actual nudity, it's not hentai). |
Jan 26, 2012 2:15 PM
#21
Hexis said: Fanservice is the specific addition of elements in any type of show to appeal to a certain group of people. Most of the times obvious, like panty shots, other times not obvious like superpowers. (According to wikipedia)Ok so from what I understand, you are saying that if we broaden the definition of fanservice to include elements that the viewer likes, every anime can be fanservice because every anime has things we like, and therefore defeating the purpose of having it as a classification. Hexis said: Yes, usually, but not always. Big boobs might be fanservice, but it might also not be fanservice. As I posted in my original post. The application of these elements doesn't always mean that they are meant as fanservice. This however poses the following problem with the term fanservice. If in one anime the element is fanservice and the other it isn't fanservice it is only so because of how it is judged by the viewer. This means it is not identifyable as fanservice in all cases. Fanservice should be obvious to all viewers as fanservice. This addition should be made. It should always be hyperbolized as well. If not then I revert to my original argument that anything could be fanservice since it will always appeal to a certain group of people. Your use of the word "usually" makes my point. A classification should always be valid and not only sometimes. If I use the word fanservice I will use it to denote an obvious use of a certain factor that appeal a certain group of people that serves no purpose to the story itself. Without any genre specific denotation it serves as the use of ecchi elements in an anime. Lets assume most guys like breasts. Now based on what you said, any anime with breasts would constitute fanservice, but why is that not the case? Because fanservice usually entails hyperbolized reality. So an anime with huge breasted girls would be considered fanservice. Similar logic can be applied to other cases to differentiate between where something is added as fanservice or not. I think you'll find it impossible to find an anime without fanservice as the wikipedia describes it: Wikipedia.org said: Long full shots of robots in mecha shows, sexual elements, long fight scenes or violence, all can be considered fan service as they are specifically aimed to please the fans of any given show. To me, this is an inaccurate description of fanservice. My earlier statements and arguments show that it is flawed. You yourself raised the necessary points to prove me right. |
Jan 26, 2012 2:51 PM
#22
AeonsLegend said: Yes, usually, but not always. Big boobs might be fanservice, but it might also not be fanservice. You said it well here: AeonsLegend said: If I use the word fanservice I will use it to denote an obvious use of a certain factor that appeal a certain group of people that serves no purpose to the story itself. AeonsLegend said: This means it is not identifyable as fanservice in all cases. I think the contrary. AeonsLegend said: Fanservice should be obvious to all viewers as fanservice And it is AeonsLegend said: Without any genre specific denotation it serves as the use of ecchi elements in an anime. Not necessarily AeonsLegend said: I think you'll find it impossible to find an anime without fanservice as the wikipedia describes it: I agree AeonsLegend said: Wikipedia.org said: Long full shots of robots in mecha shows, sexual elements, long fight scenes or violence, all can be considered fan service as they are specifically aimed to please the fans of any given show. To me, this is an inaccurate description of fanservice. My earlier statements and arguments show that it is flawed. You yourself raised the necessary points to prove me right. I didn’t say I agreed with that definition. I was just emphasizing that ecchi is not the only form of fanservice. |
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Jan 26, 2012 3:01 PM
#23
Sigh, but the entire debate started because of the wikipedia reference. If you don't agree with it then why do you argue the statement I make when I compare my opinion with the wikifact. You said "you said it well here" which was my opinion on fanservice. I simply did not agree with the wikipedia reference since it is a contradiction and I explained it in all my posts. Now you tell me you disagree with the wiki reference as well. And I agreed with you that ecchi is not the only form of fanservice, but without a reference to a certain genre it defaults to ecchi. |
Jan 26, 2012 3:02 PM
#24
Many series don't have fanservice. Some examples: One Outs, Kaiji, Akagi, Chi's Sweet Home. |
Jan 26, 2012 3:21 PM
#26
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Doraemon has no fanservice in it, at least as much as I've seen of it... Just sayin... |
Jan 26, 2012 3:28 PM
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Jan 26, 2012 3:53 PM
#28
Kuromii said: The Aria trilogy don't have any fan service in them. Well, I could see someone thinking the spa and Neverland episodes as fan service. If someone wants to, they can probably find something that could be perceived as some sort of fan service in pretty much anything. Personally, I'm caring less and less as I watch more. |
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Jan 26, 2012 4:11 PM
#29
While not completely free from fanservices, Taishou Yakyuu Musume had almost zero of it, besides of spring bath scenes(which not that sexy) and implied lesbian relationship. You won't see anything like bouncy breasts and pantyshots which is quite ironic it shared same league as most moe shows out there. |
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Jan 26, 2012 4:19 PM
#30
Escaflowne (don't thnik there's any) Mirai Shounen Conan |
Jan 26, 2012 6:07 PM
#31
I didn't mean for this topic to spark debate, but do what you want guys. Whatevs. SilentMelodies said: AnoHana. It almost didn't. If they didn't throw in that pointless scene of Jintan freaking out about Menma coming out of the shower, as well as the time where she was grinding on top of him in the first episode and he ended up "passing out." |
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Jan 26, 2012 6:47 PM
#32
Hm. Pokemon, Digimon, Beyblade, Crush Gear. They are all anime that is toy/game related. Mojacko, Doraemon, Voltes V, Daimos. The old classic ones almost don't have any. I would say AnoHana. And Durarara!! I guess. I don't remember any sort of fan service on them. And I would like to add that fillers isn't just there to prevent manga from catching up, but fillers serve as fan service as well. |
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Jan 26, 2012 8:04 PM
#33
Baccano, and monster spring to mind. although now that I think about it...fanservice does dominate a lot of anime doesn't it? |
Jan 26, 2012 8:12 PM
#34
As many others have said, a lot of anime has little to no fanservice in it. I'm no ecchi fan, and I try to stay away from it. :P |
Jan 26, 2012 10:26 PM
#36
-Shuda- said: What you're looking for is Highschool DxD. Your post makes me laugh with laughter and cry with tears! |
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Jan 26, 2012 10:50 PM
#37
Jroflcopter said: Mirai Shounen Conan Very nice one, that one. :) Well, many titles have been given already. I'd like to add many 70/80s shows but I'm afraid I watched them censored (not 100% sure about it) so I'd rather not name you those. It is possible to find animes without fanservice as you described it in your first post but it is difficult and requires more energy than usual. :) |
Jan 27, 2012 1:37 AM
#38
The only thing that comes to my mind is shojo anime. Obviously they have no fanservice. |
Jan 27, 2012 2:43 AM
#39
animelly said: The only thing that comes to my mind is shojo anime. Obviously they have no fanservice. Not really true, there is such a thing as male fan service. Take Utena for example, it gets to a point where two male characters randomly strip off their shirts and sit on the hood of cars while cruising down the road. I'm convinced the series was making fun of fan service there, though. |
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Jan 27, 2012 5:30 AM
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Jan 27, 2012 5:40 AM
#41
Binchou-tan is not focused on fanservice. Same with Kamichu! There's a whole bunch of them including Tsumiki no Ie. |
Jan 27, 2012 6:19 AM
#42
Nudity does not always =/= Fanservice Example Paprika and Perfect Blue have nudity and sexual situations in them but it's used to illustrate a point or establish a tone, not try to give the audience a boner. |
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Jan 27, 2012 9:49 AM
#43
-Shuda- said: What you're looking for is Highschool DxD. LMAO!!! Seriously, Ano Hana didn't have any fan service and neither did Usagi Drop. There's plenty with very very little, but with NONE it's harder to find (even US animation will have a bit). "Another" doesn't seem to have what I would consider fanservice aside from 2 naked dolls sitting on a couch in episode 2. |
Jan 27, 2012 10:43 AM
#44
Dennou Coil is the best I've seen without any fanservice. Great series. Also: Manabi Straight Aria |
Jan 27, 2012 11:50 AM
#46
That's one thing I liked about Nichijou. An anime centered around school girls, yet it avoids fanservice entirely? Precure is another good example. Magical Girls anime in general has a habit of avoiding fanservice despite featuring girls in mini skirts fighting monsters. Usually the fanservice comes from the transformation sequences, but in the case of Heartcatch, even that is tasteful. And gorgeous. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28c0Bj-SBtU |
Jan 27, 2012 12:02 PM
#47
Wait wait..whats wrong with fanservice? "Dat shit is awesome." XD |
Jan 27, 2012 12:18 PM
#48
To my knowledge, series's that lack sexual fanservice are: - Studio Ghibli films (in general) - Rurouni Kenshin - Level E - Shiki - Pokemon and it's movies - Texhnolyze (fan disservice) - Durarara - Baccano - Midoka - Natsume Yuujincho - Hellsing/ultimate - Fruits Basket (depending on your perspective) - Michiko to Hatchin (ignoring outfits) - Berserk (fan disservice) |
Jan 28, 2012 8:29 AM
#49
Queen_Stars said: To my knowledge, series's that lack sexual fanservice are: - Studio Ghibli films (in general) - Rurouni Kenshin - Level E - Shiki - Pokemon and it's movies - Texhnolyze (fan disservice) - Durarara - Baccano - Midoka - Natsume Yuujincho - Hellsing/ultimate - Fruits Basket (depending on your perspective) - Michiko to Hatchin (ignoring outfits) - Berserk (fan disservice) no. Durarara shouldnt be on the list. |
Jan 28, 2012 9:11 AM
#50
Tiago97 said: Mirai Shounen Conan I see this and raise you Akage no Anne. |
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