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Jan 21, 2012 5:43 PM

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love how the story is finally coming together. that kaiki guy is so shady and interesting, and wtf is going on with senjougahara and hanekawa??? could they be plotting something??? O.o
cant wait to find out x]]]

and araragi going BEAST MODE on those chains after all that bdsm with senjougahara was PURE WIN >:D

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Jan 21, 2012 5:58 PM

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Great episode. I really wish it was getting more than 11 eps...
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Jan 21, 2012 6:06 PM

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Oh my, that was exciting. So who's the little sister who asked for help? Was it Tsukihi or Karen? I guess we'll find out in the next episode. :)
 
Jan 21, 2012 6:12 PM

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You guys wanted plot well you got it!, i enjoyed this episode the most so far because~

araragi broke dem chains like a boss *hes serious*
senjougahara getting nervous /blushing all in one episode?! :3
and the fact just mentioning this new guy kaiki's name senjougahara went into high alert mode in which she was *protecting*araragi makes him seem like hes quite the powerful person.

Want next week to come sooner !
 
Jan 21, 2012 6:15 PM

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OMG! I didn't realize the reference!
 
Jan 21, 2012 6:20 PM

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StreetSmartz said:
KOYOMI IS A FUCKING BOSS WHEN HE RIPPED THOSE CHAINS.....

and it seems like hanekawa is almost like bullying senjougahara


I didn't though that she would actually fool someone with that.
Senjougahara would never be that weak against anyone but her nemesis, aka Kaiki.
 
Jan 21, 2012 6:22 PM
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mdz's thoughts pretty much sums up what I loved about this episode. Incredible dialogues and some progression in the story.
IMO, the best episode yet.
 
Jan 21, 2012 6:49 PM

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Jan 21, 2012 7:02 PM

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Oh my, that was exciting. So who's the little sister who asked for help? Was it Tsukihi or Karen? I guess we'll find out in the next episode. :)


Nah, it was Tsukihi. The phone said "Small Little Sister", which is Tsukihi.
 
Jan 21, 2012 7:03 PM

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Maddo_scientisto said:
StreetSmartz said:
KOYOMI IS A FUCKING BOSS WHEN HE RIPPED THOSE CHAINS.....

and it seems like hanekawa is almost like bullying senjougahara


I didn't though that she would actually fool someone with that.
Senjougahara would never be that weak against anyone but her nemesis, aka Kaiki.


Err, because Kaiki just magically knows Koyomi's phone number, right? Right?
 
Jan 21, 2012 7:07 PM

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Woah, that was actually pretty good.
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
 
Jan 21, 2012 7:24 PM

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Panaru said:
Maddo_scientisto said:
StreetSmartz said:
KOYOMI IS A FUCKING BOSS WHEN HE RIPPED THOSE CHAINS.....

and it seems like hanekawa is almost like bullying senjougahara


I didn't though that she would actually fool someone with that.
Senjougahara would never be that weak against anyone but her nemesis, aka Kaiki.


Err, because Kaiki just magically knows Koyomi's phone number, right? Right?


This, unless i misunderstood you (Maddo_scientisto) i gotta agree that its highly unlikely that was Kaiki; also lets say it was him, do you honestly think she would act weak like that after she was saying she would kill him whether she was serious about that or not doesn't really matter, i don't see her acting like that even if it was Kaiki. The whole Hanekawa scenario seems more believable because we don't know what she has been up to, or the "relationship" Kanbaru spoke of which she said she isn't pleased with or something like that. In my opinion its one of two things; one Hanekawa got pissed at Senjougahara, like i mentioned perhaps because of Araragi or two it was an act and they are plotting something together.
 
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InfiniteDestiny said:
Panaru said:
Maddo_scientisto said:
StreetSmartz said:
KOYOMI IS A FUCKING BOSS WHEN HE RIPPED THOSE CHAINS.....

and it seems like hanekawa is almost like bullying senjougahara


I didn't though that she would actually fool someone with that.
Senjougahara would never be that weak against anyone but her nemesis, aka Kaiki.


Err, because Kaiki just magically knows Koyomi's phone number, right? Right?


This, unless i misunderstood you (Maddo_scientisto) i gotta agree that its highly unlikely that was Kaiki; also lets say it was him, do you honestly think she would act weak like that after she was saying she would kill him whether she was serious about that or not doesn't really matter, i don't see her acting like that even if it was Kaiki. The whole Hanekawa scenario seems more believable because we don't know what she has been up to, or the "relationship" Kanbaru spoke of which she said she isn't pleased with or something like that. In my opinion its one of two things; one Hanekawa got pissed at Senjougahara, like i mentioned perhaps because of Araragi or two it was an act and they are plotting something together.


First we get a message from Araragi's sister that say 'help me' then suddenly someone able to make Senjougahara anything he/she want happen to contact her through Araragi's phone.

The fire sister will soon enough get into this mess, I think this is a good time for it.

In my opinion Kaiki took at least one of Araragi's sister hostage and use that as a
bait to fulfill his motive, as for what it is I have no idea but it will probably be centred about Araragi's family circle + Senjougahara.
Of course he is contacting her through Araragi's sister's phone.

Also Senjougahara is the kind of character that put a hard front but is not that strong in the inside. She won't get over the source of her trauma like she think she will. She will eventually get over it but right now she's scared shitless of him which is demonstrated with her over the top protecting behaviour for Araragi.
 
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Amazing episode. Finally the plot begins :D

5/5
 
Jan 21, 2012 7:50 PM

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Maddo_scientisto said:
InfiniteDestiny said:
Panaru said:
Maddo_scientisto said:
StreetSmartz said:
KOYOMI IS A FUCKING BOSS WHEN HE RIPPED THOSE CHAINS.....

and it seems like hanekawa is almost like bullying senjougahara


I didn't though that she would actually fool someone with that.
Senjougahara would never be that weak against anyone but her nemesis, aka Kaiki.


Err, because Kaiki just magically knows Koyomi's phone number, right? Right?


This, unless i misunderstood you (Maddo_scientisto) i gotta agree that its highly unlikely that was Kaiki; also lets say it was him, do you honestly think she would act weak like that after she was saying she would kill him whether she was serious about that or not doesn't really matter, i don't see her acting like that even if it was Kaiki. The whole Hanekawa scenario seems more believable because we don't know what she has been up to, or the "relationship" Kanbaru spoke of which she said she isn't pleased with or something like that. In my opinion its one of two things; one Hanekawa got pissed at Senjougahara, like i mentioned perhaps because of Araragi or two it was an act and they are plotting something together.


First we get a message from Araragi's sister that say 'help me' then suddenly someone able to make Senjougahara anything he/she want happen to contact her through Araragi's phone.

The fire sister will soon enough get into this mess, I think this is a good time for it.

In my opinion Kaiki took at least one of Araragi's sister hostage and use that as a
bait to fulfill his motive, as for what it is I have no idea but it will probably be centred about Araragi's family circle + Senjougahara.
Of course he is contacting her through Araragi's sister's phone.

Also Senjougahara is the kind of character that put a hard front but is not that strong in the inside. She won't get over the source of her trauma like she think she will. She will eventually get over it but right now she's scared shitless of him which is demonstrated with her over the top protecting behaviour for Araragi.


Riiiight, and how does Kaiki know that Senjougahara would answer Araragi's phone?
 
Jan 21, 2012 8:59 PM

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Panaru said:
Maddo_scientisto said:
InfiniteDestiny said:
Panaru said:
Maddo_scientisto said:
StreetSmartz said:
KOYOMI IS A FUCKING BOSS WHEN HE RIPPED THOSE CHAINS.....

and it seems like hanekawa is almost like bullying senjougahara


I didn't though that she would actually fool someone with that.
Senjougahara would never be that weak against anyone but her nemesis, aka Kaiki.


Err, because Kaiki just magically knows Koyomi's phone number, right? Right?


This, unless i misunderstood you (Maddo_scientisto) i gotta agree that its highly unlikely that was Kaiki; also lets say it was him, do you honestly think she would act weak like that after she was saying she would kill him whether she was serious about that or not doesn't really matter, i don't see her acting like that even if it was Kaiki. The whole Hanekawa scenario seems more believable because we don't know what she has been up to, or the "relationship" Kanbaru spoke of which she said she isn't pleased with or something like that. In my opinion its one of two things; one Hanekawa got pissed at Senjougahara, like i mentioned perhaps because of Araragi or two it was an act and they are plotting something together.


First we get a message from Araragi's sister that say 'help me' then suddenly someone able to make Senjougahara anything he/she want happen to contact her through Araragi's phone.

The fire sister will soon enough get into this mess, I think this is a good time for it.

In my opinion Kaiki took at least one of Araragi's sister hostage and use that as a
bait to fulfill his motive, as for what it is I have no idea but it will probably be centred about Araragi's family circle + Senjougahara.
Of course he is contacting her through Araragi's sister's phone.

Also Senjougahara is the kind of character that put a hard front but is not that strong in the inside. She won't get over the source of her trauma like she think she will. She will eventually get over it but right now she's scared shitless of him which is demonstrated with her over the top protecting behaviour for Araragi.


Riiiight, and how does Kaiki know that Senjougahara would answer Araragi's phone?


Oh there can be many reason for that actually but most of them will turn out around this way:
He meant to talk to Araragi but Senjougahara answered, he then ajusted his talk to to Senjougahara.

Either he want Araragi and then told Senjougahara to stay away from this and now Araragi is walking into the ennemy trap or (very more probably) his true goal was Senjougahara from the start and he called to make sure that Araragi don't get in the way because, afterall, something could happen to his sister if he did.
But then it was Senjougahara that answered the phone so it solved the matter and probably ended up as a ''If you do as I say I won't hurt the guy you love''.

Anyway it's not like I can predict the future, it's just that I don't like when people say my theories don't make sense when they actually do :>.
 
Jan 21, 2012 9:16 PM
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onedaysnotice said:
Amazing episode. Finally the plot begins :D

5/5


AND IT SHALL THICKEN!!
 
Jan 21, 2012 9:46 PM

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So it takes 3 episodes for something to actually happen, and only for about half the episode. The dialogue is slightly amusing at best, and the story has barely gotten started, yet it's already so highly praised.


ahh yes the classic "I don't like it so no one else should" . Also, How does the speed of story progression reflect the quality of the anime? That makes no sense.

This show is just fun to watch, I mean it only feels like ten minutes go by when your done with the episodes. Strong start to this season so far guys keep it up.
 
Jan 21, 2012 10:11 PM

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i told myself not to fap today.

not, after seeing Nadeko again =w=

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Jan 21, 2012 10:38 PM
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loved it
 
Jan 21, 2012 10:40 PM

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AzylSagara said:
onedaysnotice said:
Amazing episode. Finally the plot begins :D

5/5


AND IT SHALL THICKEN!!


LIKE MY ****!

anyway, nice to see more progression and some nice fanservice here and there
 
Jan 21, 2012 11:12 PM

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What a huge leap compared to the first two episodes in terms of story and enjoyment! Loved the introduction of a new character and the Araragi x Senjougahara dialogue. She was so cute when she blushed and said he was cool.

Wonder what Hanekawa said to her. Didn't Hanekawa call Araragi's phone? Hm.

 
Jan 21, 2012 11:23 PM

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I love the story so far and Hitagi's change in personality at the end was awkward.
 
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don't want to create any spoilers, but some clarifications.

Yes it was Hanekawa calling araragi's phone.
Yes she knew Senjougahara would be with him, and she knew the situation and which buttons to push.
Yes she is involved with the sisters that is why she called araragi's phone.

In this novel the author adds on a layer to Hanekawa's personality and you get the feeling she isn't just book smart, but she genuinely understands all the subtleties of everyone's personality. She carries with her a different kind of strength than araragi and his sister, and she is by no means weak.
 
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don't want to create any spoilers, but some clarifications.

Yes it was Hanekawa calling araragi's phone.
Yes she knew Senjougahara would be with him, and she knew the situation and which buttons to push.
Yes she is involved with the sisters that is why she called araragi's phone.

In this novel the author adds on a layer to Hanekawa's personality and you get the feeling she isn't just book smart, but she genuinely understands all the subtleties of everyone's personality. She carries with her a different kind of strength than araragi and his sister, and she is by no means weak.


I didn't know all of this, but I knew it was Hanekawa just because of what Kanbaru said about her earlier in the episode, combined with the fact that I know NisioIsin isn't one to drop those kinds of details and not have a purpose for them.
 
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Maddo_scientisto said:
Panaru said:
Maddo_scientisto said:
InfiniteDestiny said:
Panaru said:
Maddo_scientisto said:
StreetSmartz said:
KOYOMI IS A FUCKING BOSS WHEN HE RIPPED THOSE CHAINS.....

and it seems like hanekawa is almost like bullying senjougahara


I didn't though that she would actually fool someone with that.
Senjougahara would never be that weak against anyone but her nemesis, aka Kaiki.


Err, because Kaiki just magically knows Koyomi's phone number, right? Right?


This, unless i misunderstood you (Maddo_scientisto) i gotta agree that its highly unlikely that was Kaiki; also lets say it was him, do you honestly think she would act weak like that after she was saying she would kill him whether she was serious about that or not doesn't really matter, i don't see her acting like that even if it was Kaiki. The whole Hanekawa scenario seems more believable because we don't know what she has been up to, or the "relationship" Kanbaru spoke of which she said she isn't pleased with or something like that. In my opinion its one of two things; one Hanekawa got pissed at Senjougahara, like i mentioned perhaps because of Araragi or two it was an act and they are plotting something together.


First we get a message from Araragi's sister that say 'help me' then suddenly someone able to make Senjougahara anything he/she want happen to contact her through Araragi's phone.

The fire sister will soon enough get into this mess, I think this is a good time for it.

In my opinion Kaiki took at least one of Araragi's sister hostage and use that as a
bait to fulfill his motive, as for what it is I have no idea but it will probably be centred about Araragi's family circle + Senjougahara.
Of course he is contacting her through Araragi's sister's phone.

Also Senjougahara is the kind of character that put a hard front but is not that strong in the inside. She won't get over the source of her trauma like she think she will. She will eventually get over it but right now she's scared shitless of him which is demonstrated with her over the top protecting behaviour for Araragi.


Riiiight, and how does Kaiki know that Senjougahara would answer Araragi's phone?


Oh there can be many reason for that actually but most of them will turn out around this way:
He meant to talk to Araragi but Senjougahara answered, he then ajusted his talk to to Senjougahara.

Either he want Araragi and then told Senjougahara to stay away from this and now Araragi is walking into the ennemy trap or (very more probably) his true goal was Senjougahara from the start and he called to make sure that Araragi don't get in the way because, afterall, something could happen to his sister if he did.
But then it was Senjougahara that answered the phone so it solved the matter and probably ended up as a ''If you do as I say I won't hurt the guy you love''.

Anyway it's not like I can predict the future, it's just that I don't like when people say my theories don't make sense when they actually do :>.


Just like you i can't predict the future but i gotta disagree with your theory for a few reasons, for starters lets say that once again Kaiki was the caller just for argument sake; why would she apologize after like that, stuttering and all? Also let's say Kaiki threatened Araragi like you guessed he did, do you really think she would just let him go after that? As far as we know Senjougahara doesn't give a crap about what happens to Araragi's sisters so thus the intended threat to Araragi (supposing the call was for him like you suggested) doesn't apply. The only real thing she could call a weakness is what she locked away in handcuffs, so if that was really Kaiki do you really think she would "promote" his idea for going back home? I just don't see it.
 
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taj69 said:
don't want to create any spoilers, but some clarifications.

Yes it was Hanekawa calling araragi's phone.
Yes she knew Senjougahara would be with him, and she knew the situation and which buttons to push.
Yes she is involved with the sisters that is why she called araragi's phone.

In this novel the author adds on a layer to Hanekawa's personality and you get the feeling she isn't just book smart, but she genuinely understands all the subtleties of everyone's personality. She carries with her a different kind of strength than araragi and his sister, and she is by no means weak.


Thanks for the clarification I'll take your word up on it; but it was still surprising that she would react that way, I'm sure we will find out sooner or later but it will be interesting to see which buttons you are referring to that would make Senjougahara act like that. Oh a little clarification question since my memory is a bit hazy on it, Black Hanekawa is a oddity based on Hanekawa's stress right? But it is still based on her, so when Hanekawa created a scenario for Shinobu to help Araragi it was inner desire? So i suppose my real question is that trying to kill Araragi last time was also her inner desire? which could perhaps be a prelude to this different personality you speak of?
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Damn, finally we got some real development in this episode. Like the nitrous kicking in at full boost. 5/5.
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was over before I realized! Great episode
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MissileSoup said:
So it takes 3 episodes for something to actually happen, and only for about half the episode. The dialogue is slightly amusing at best, and the story has barely gotten started, yet it's already so highly praised.


ahh yes the classic "I don't like it so no one else should" . Also, How does the speed of story progression reflect the quality of the anime? That makes no sense.

This show is just fun to watch, I mean it only feels like ten minutes go by when your done with the episodes. Strong start to this season so far guys keep it up.

Ah, the classic "Assume what the other person said without knowing what he meant because I want to defend my favorite anime." When did I say no one else should? At most, I'm merely questioning the reason why people praise it when the story's just gotten started, and I didn't explicitly state even that. To explain what I actually said in clearer words, since you apparently care so much: I don't understand why people are loving it so much when nothing has actually happened. I don't care if people choose to like it or not, just the reason.

And the story progression does affect the quality of the anime. But that's not what I was saying in this case. There has been no progression.
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Was awesome. Interested to see what that phone call at the end was about.
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RIPPED THOSE CHAINS LIKE A BOSS! >:)
 
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5/5 This episode introduces us to the main plot as well as the antagonist of Karen Bee. Better than the filler Episode 2.
 
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@MissileSoup But people weren't praising it for the story/plot. Like you said not a lot of the plot has been unraveled and many have stated that but that doesn't mean people still can't enjoy it. I've loved this season thus far for the dialogue/interactions between characters and the brilliant SHAFT animation that goes along with it. It keeps me entertained even when the story pace is slow.

Also just because you only find the dialogue slightly amusing it doesn't mean others feel the same. You don't have to understand it. I don't think "story progression affecting the quality of anime" holds true for every show. You can enjoy comedies or slice of lifes even when they barely have any underlying story.
 
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Everything here is win.

Especially loved the relationship diagram, "Maybe I'm actually in love with Hachikuji..."


took the words right out of my mouth

i'm glad gahara got some screen time again. and man what a bamf when he broke those chains. i would kill to have this entire series out right now, it kills me that i have to watch it over the course of almost 3 months
 
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@MissileSoup But people weren't praising it for the story/plot. Like you said not a lot of the plot has been unraveled and many have stated that but that doesn't mean people still can't enjoy it. I've loved this season thus far for the dialogue/interactions between characters and the brilliant SHAFT animation that goes along with it. It keeps me entertained even when the story pace is slow.

Also just because you only find the dialogue slightly amusing it doesn't mean others feel the same. You don't have to understand it. I don't think "story progression affecting the quality of anime" holds true for every show. You can enjoy comedies or slice of lifes even when they barely have any underlying story.


Well, yes. But I'm sure the term "monogatari" implies some sort of a story, therefore progression is an issue. Though again, that wasn't my point. I wasn't really questioning the reason, as its obviously the characters. It was meant to rhetorical. It just seemed worth pointing out that certain individuals understand not everyone has to feel the same as I do, yet my post was singled out for not loving this as much as they do.
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Jlopes3 said:
MissileSoup said:
So it takes 3 episodes for something to actually happen, and only for about half the episode. The dialogue is slightly amusing at best, and the story has barely gotten started, yet it's already so highly praised.


ahh yes the classic "I don't like it so no one else should" . Also, How does the speed of story progression reflect the quality of the anime? That makes no sense.

This show is just fun to watch, I mean it only feels like ten minutes go by when your done with the episodes. Strong start to this season so far guys keep it up.

Ah, the classic "Assume what the other person said without knowing what he meant because I want to defend my favorite anime." When did I say no one else should? At most, I'm merely questioning the reason why people praise it when the story's just gotten started, and I didn't explicitly state even that. To explain what I actually said in clearer words, since you apparently care so much: I don't understand why people are loving it so much when nothing has actually happened. I don't care if people choose to like it or not, just the reason.

And the story progression does affect the quality of the anime. But that's not what I was saying in this case. There has been no progression.


The statement "yet it's so praised" clearly implies you don't like the show and many others do and you don't get why, which is all I was pointing out. Look people watch this show because of it's characters and the series' great dialogue, not because of it's story, which is why I stated that the story progression is irrelevant. It's irrelevant as long as the show is entertaining (which is clearly the case with many people). Look at all the praise shows like Lucky Star and Azumanga Daioh get. You care to tell me how the "story progression" is in those series? So, there you go that's why so many people like this show so far because it's entertaining.

" since you apparently care so much"

lol that made me laugh, because you obviously care enough to post in the forums in the first place amirite?

" I want to defend my favorite anime"

lol did you even bother to look at my favorite anime list before posting that or did you just assume that after trying to call me out for assuming something about your post, Hypocrite much?

I can respect if you simply don't find it entertaining as of yet and maybe you're just into the story lines in anime and that's cool, but not everyone is like that. Some people just like to have a good laugh you know?
 
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" I want to defend my favorite anime"

lol did you even bother to look at my favorite anime list before posting that or did you just assume that after trying to call me out for assuming something about your post, Hypocrite much?

Er...the point was to be hypocritical, as I was mocking your post. Because you assumed, so I did. So yes, hypocrite lots.

I don't feel like multi-quoting, so I'll just respond to the rest of your post as a whole. Shows like Lucky Star and Azumanga Daioh don't need story progression, because that's not the point. As I already said, the term "monogatari" implies some sort of story progression. It's also obvious from Bakemonogatari that this show is meant to be a series of short stories. Why are you stuck on that point so much, I already said that wasn't the point I was making. If you haven't read my post above yours (and from your reply, I can't say you have), then do so. What I said was meant to be rhetorical, though I suppose it didn't come across that way, hence the clarification. I post in the forums because I feel like leaving my opinion. I don't reply to other people with a assumptive stance as you did. Since we're taking the sarcastic tone rather than the mocking tone now, I'm glad I made you laugh.
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It is a parody of Yoshitaka Amano?



 
Jan 22, 2012 2:52 AM

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MissileSoup said:

Well, yes. But I'm sure the term "monogatari" implies some sort of a story.


Haha funny I was honestly going to mention that and the irony of it but I deleted it. Nisemonogatari has a story for sure but I don't feel like pacing is really an issue as long as the story gets told in the end.

No need to feel singled out, I wasn't trying to attack you. But yes, rhetorical. Got it.

@gothlol: Hahaha I thought so too! Though not confident enough to say it is.
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Jan 22, 2012 4:24 AM

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OK, I know for sure Kaiki Deishuu in the spoiler
Is for sure the one who made Hitagi in the following,

there is no way anyone else nor Hanekawa would make her like that. Therefore she lied under coercion from Kaiki. I wonder WTF does he have as shit to use against Hitagi because for her to be like that means it's huge!

Now what I want to know from anyone who may spoiler me, is he the fucker who fondled Hitagi’s body parts and nearly raped her innocence away? Cause if he is the shit head looks like *cracks knuckles* it’s time for some revenge for Hitagi. I swear I would destroy this guy’s fugal face for hurting Hitagi.

He ain’t scary, he is just a ugly pedo shit. You don’t go after under 18 when you are over 20. Plain and simple.

I also know that Karen/Tsukihi are dealing with goons that work for him under his mind control. Well through cunning words coming from Kaiki.

What does bother me of Kaiki is that he can read auras and determine their power at the very moment. Not sure if it’s fake but it looks real to me.

The art render of him in the spoiler
was chilling to the bone. Death tree control?

BTW I managed to do some GIFs like:

A real MOE killer of Hitagi. The rest are in page 1 link.

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Jan 22, 2012 5:04 AM

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LOVED this episode.
I missed the interaction between Arararagi-kun and Senjougahara, it's great when they talk with each other!
 
Jan 22, 2012 5:14 AM

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Yumekichi11 said:
there is no way anyone else nor Hanekawa would make her like that. Therefore she lied under coercion from Kaiki. I wonder WTF does he have as shit to use against Hitagi because for her to be like that means it's huge!
I also think it wasn't Hanekawa from what i am aware of there relationship doesn't seem like one is blackmailing the other or one is submissive.
Tho i have my doubts that it was Kaiki that was on the phone since it seems she broke contact with him long ago and she mentioned she would kill him.
There is also the fact that she already lost almost everything because of him and she probably doesn't have anything to lose if she where to go against him.
To me the only thing she seems to fear from him is the fact that Araragi might be caught up with him.

Yumekichi11 said:
Now what I want to know from anyone who may spoiler me, is he the fucker who fondled Hitagi’s body parts and nearly raped her innocence away? Cause if he is the shit head looks like *cracks knuckles* it’s time for some revenge for Hitagi. I swear I would destroy this guy’s fugal face for hurting Hitagi.

He ain’t scary, he is just a ugly pedo shit. You don’t go after under 18 when you are over 20. Plain and simple.
Don't know if he was the one that tried to rape Senjougahara but i fully agree with you that someone over 20 should stay off from someone under 18.
Really someone who lays there hands on a child should be tortured in the most brutal way.

Yumekichi11 said:
What does bother me of Kaiki is that he can read auras and determine their power at the very moment. Not sure if it’s fake but it looks real to me.
I think so as well, i think he is looking for children caught up in something supernatural so he can frame them.

Yumekichi11 said:
BTW I managed to do some GIFs like:

A real MOE killer of Hitagi. The rest are in page 1 link.
You managed to get the best shot of her there it just looked them cute in that scene seems she still has a hard time to admit that she loves Araragi.
 
Jan 22, 2012 5:18 AM

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Aversa said:
Yumekichi11 said:
What does bother me of Kaiki is that he can read auras and determine their power at the very moment. Not sure if it’s fake but it looks real to me.
I think so as well, i think he is looking for children caught up in something supernatural so he can frame them.
Bet you he is the one using the kids for the fake charm stuff heard at the end of last episode from Karen and the other sister.
Aversa said:
Yumekichi11 said:
BTW I managed to do some GIFs like:

A real MOE killer of Hitagi. The rest are in page 1 link.
You managed to get the best shot of her there it just looked them cute in that scene seems she still has a hard time to admit that she loves Araragi.
It's also the first time we see Hitagi blush properly.

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Jan 22, 2012 6:15 AM

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Yumekichi11 said:
Aversa said:
Yumekichi11 said:
What does bother me of Kaiki is that he can read auras and determine their power at the very moment. Not sure if it’s fake but it looks real to me.
I think so as well, i think he is looking for children caught up in something supernatural so he can frame them.
Bet you he is the one using the kids for the fake charm stuff heard at the end of last episode from Karen and the other sister.
That might be the case since that fan charm became popular recently and he entered the city recently.
Still what does he gain from spreading the fake charm, he seems like that type that only does things that he can gain from and doesn't care about his victims at all.
Araragi's sisters will get involved with him one way or another and they probably need the help of there brother to beat him.
Maybe that was what the call was about from the little sister.

I wonder if they will find out about Araragi being a vampire and i wonder how they will react to that.

Yumekichi11 said:
Aversa said:
Yumekichi11 said:
BTW I managed to do some GIFs like:

A real MOE killer of Hitagi. The rest are in page 1 link.
You managed to get the best shot of her there it just looked them cute in that scene seems she still has a hard time to admit that she loves Araragi.
It's also the first time we see Hitagi blush properly.
Yes it's a bit unexpected tho nice to see that even she has a weak side.
It will be nice to see what more we can expect from her that we didn't see last season.
 
Jan 22, 2012 6:31 AM
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lol This episode gone back to the confinement room .I never thought the flashback took more than 2 episode.
Sugara mentioned something about both Gahara and Tsubasa's relation.Maybe she know more about them =P

...not related stuff
 
Jan 22, 2012 7:41 AM

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They're such a lovely couple.
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Jan 22, 2012 9:00 AM

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Episode 3 is giving me hope for the series. Seems like the only appeal of episode 1 and 2 were fanservice. And while Bakemono had a ton of fanservice, that was one of the things that made it great. As opposed to episode 1 and 2 of Nise, where the fanservice was the ONLY appeal it had going for.

I guess those episodes were a reintroduction to some old characters so now that thats over and done with, I guess it can move forward. Still waiting for Hanekawa and Shinbo actually talking. Also, Hitagi was very yandere this episode. I think she's still my favorite character in the show so far.
 
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