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Jan 19, 2012 2:26 PM

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Valaskjalf said:
Wait... those that mean no more Megaporn... ?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooo.....
there was actually something called megaporn?

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jan 19, 2012 2:31 PM

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Pocketasces said:
let me take this opportunity to tell everyone that fileserve is increasing in popularity and the premium accounts are cheap and fast


just make sure you use paypal and not a credit card, because if you use CC the only way to cancel the recurring sub is by going directly to your CC company, fileserve doesn't give the option to cancel recurring payments.

and yes they had megaporn lol.
Jan 19, 2012 2:38 PM

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Damm! All soundtracks and mixtapes from JPz Records were on megaupload.
Jan 19, 2012 2:45 PM

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Oh, and don't worry about other sites. Sites like Rapidshare have already been deemed legal in the US and Europe. Plus ICE just came off an embarrassing defeat. Here's hoping for another ^^
Jan 19, 2012 2:50 PM

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i never used this site. ;o

Jan 19, 2012 3:00 PM

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I forgot it even existed, lol. Couldn't care less... it frustrated me without measure when I was trying to re-watch Pokemon 4 years ago.
Jan 19, 2012 3:14 PM

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verdstein said:
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Ryuokoi said:
Don't they realize, that they are getting arrows to their own knees?

some people won't ever BUY their damn products.
BUT
more people downloading=product is getting popular
popular product=some people want to buy the product and stuff related to it

That's gibberish Jews only understand the language of money.

What makes you say that?

Politicians don't make decisions because they want to they are pushed and coerced by someone with larger pockets and it is in the best interest of these people to shut down means of sharing on the internet
Jan 19, 2012 3:26 PM

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Great >.> MU was one of my favourite hosting sites for several reasons, like really good download speed for free users.

Somewhat related:
http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/
Jan 19, 2012 3:28 PM
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JonyJC said:
verdstein said:
JonyJC said:
Ryuokoi said:
Don't they realize, that they are getting arrows to their own knees?

some people won't ever BUY their damn products.
BUT
more people downloading=product is getting popular
popular product=some people want to buy the product and stuff related to it

That's gibberish Jews only understand the language of money.

What makes you say that?

Politicians don't make decisions because they want to they are pushed and coerced by someone with larger pockets and it is in the best interest of these people to shut down means of sharing on the internet

I understand (and agree) with that, but I don't understand how that translates to "Jews only understand the language of money."
Jan 19, 2012 3:31 PM
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As far as copyright goes, Megaupload DOES take down copyrighted materials. The Justice Dept. is shooting themselves in the foot.

But as far as money laundering, this COULD be something completely different and serious.
Jan 19, 2012 3:35 PM

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Omg thank you for bringing this as a topic I was just about to create a forum for it. I can't believe those savage pigs shut down megaupload. That was where I watched most of my anime D: The current two anime's I'm watching right now I can't watch anymore because of SOPA and their ridiculousness. It's like the world is ending as we know it. Greed is a horrible thing. Damn government.
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Jan 19, 2012 3:36 PM

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Ryuokoi said:
Don't they realize, that they are getting arrows to their own knees?

some people won't ever BUY their damn products.
BUT
more people downloading=product is getting popular
popular product=some people want to buy the product and stuff related to it

They are not loosing their money when I download things, 'cause I would never buy it without knowing if it's worth money. It's rather a good thing, cause product is getting famous. And everybody knows what it means. PROFITS.


Politicians and bureaucrats do not have marketing skills.
They aren't chosen by IQ tests either.
Jan 19, 2012 3:39 PM
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"Other emails show how executives discussed cash rewards for uploaders who had provided specific DVDs and other copyrighted works.Further emails show how some of the executives scoured their own service to download copies of The Sopranos and various music albums."

........well, Megaupload shot themselves in the foot it seems....
Jan 19, 2012 3:39 PM
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OK, first of all SOPA did NOT take down MU, SOPA has NOT been passed into law, therefore that is impossible.

Secondly, you people shouldn't act so damn surprised that MU was taken down, everyone here knows exactly what they do and what makes their site illegal.

Lastly, I think it's BULLSHIT that they arrested a bunch of people involved with MU, they are NOT responsible for what everyone does at MU.
Jan 19, 2012 3:39 PM

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Edit: After reading more about this I have to say I support the taking down of Megaupload. Those idiots -___-
dsisterJan 19, 2012 3:49 PM
Jan 19, 2012 3:46 PM

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Pessoa said:
Ryuokoi said:
Don't they realize, that they are getting arrows to their own knees?

some people won't ever BUY their damn products.
BUT
more people downloading=product is getting popular
popular product=some people want to buy the product and stuff related to it

They are not loosing their money when I download things, 'cause I would never buy it without knowing if it's worth money. It's rather a good thing, cause product is getting famous. And everybody knows what it means. PROFITS.


Politicians and bureaucrats do not have marketing skills.
They aren't chosen by IQ tests either.


They surely aren't chosen by smart United States citizens either.. >.>
Jan 19, 2012 3:46 PM
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dsisterAnonymous took down a couples sites already ;)[/quote said:


That's exactly the excuse the government needs to pass laws like SOPA and PIPA but whatever.

All I know is, I know that copyrighted stuff on MU isn't on there for very long anyway...so like what the hell?
Jan 19, 2012 3:49 PM

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dsister said:
Bedroom_Toki said:
Omg thank you for bringing this as a topic I was just about to create a forum for it. I can't believe those savage pigs shut down megaupload. That was where I watched most of my anime D: The current two anime's I'm watching right now I can't watch anymore because of SOPA and their ridiculousness. It's like the world is ending as we know it. Greed is a horrible thing. Damn government.

SOPA is in no way involved in this. And apparently the FBI has been making this case for awhile and Mega was doing some stuff they really weren't supposed to... that's what I'm reading at least.

Sorry I know I re-read my post. I hate when I hear someone say something in the background and I end up typing it. I know SOPA hasn't even been passed yet. I'm hoping to god that it wont be.
Semi related. Anonymous took down a couples sites already ;)
-tokidoki
Jan 19, 2012 3:53 PM
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This is bullshit, just moments away for they to take down other downloadable sites, prepare for the worse people...
Jan 19, 2012 3:54 PM

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Disasterpiece91 said:
dsisterAnonymous took down a couples sites already ;)[/quote said:


That's exactly the excuse the government needs to pass laws like SOPA and PIPA but whatever.

All I know is, I know that copyrighted stuff on MU isn't on there for very long anyway...so like what the hell?
Well, after reading up on what happened to dajaz1. The government needs to learn that we won't stand up for stupid crap like that. But if what I'm reading about megaupload is true then they did deserve it. I edited my post to reflect my newfound mindset
Jan 19, 2012 3:55 PM
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RandyW88 said:
This is bullshit, just moments away for they to take down other downloadable sites, prepare for the worse people...


well it turns out [allegedly] Megaupload paid users to upload copyrighted stuff......if proven true in a court of law then that's REALLY bad for Megaupload....
Jan 19, 2012 4:03 PM
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ffs... well I've sticked to mediafire for a while, but this sucks
Jan 19, 2012 4:05 PM
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i'm skeptical about the copyright charges though, as i've said they do remove a lot of copyrighted material on their own, though I'm really curious about the money laundering charge.
Jan 19, 2012 4:20 PM

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Fileserve free speeds are beyond horrible compared to MU. Oh well MediaFire provides about half the speeds I get from MU at least. Still sucks
Jan 19, 2012 4:20 PM

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Huh, didn't on for 1 day many things have happen. Damn I really like MU since it doesn't have captcha & waiting time and also support resume even for free user.
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Jan 19, 2012 4:43 PM

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Count two of the indictment, section 69 ("Overt Acts"), subsection yyy, page 45-46:
United States District Court, Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division said:

On or about December 10, 2010, DOTCOM forwarded a complaint from a user that “Megakey is not working” to ORTMANN and VAN DER KOLK. In the forward,DOTCOM writes “this doesn’t work yet? we are advertising it. why is it not working?”. In the user’s e-mail, he complained that he installed Megakey, which provides Mega Conspiracy advertising to users in exchange for premium access to Megaupload.com and Megavideo.com, and the user was still receiving a message about the “megavideo time limit.” The e-mail included apparent screenshots of the user’s computer which shows the linking site animefreak.tv being used to attempt to watch an episode of the copyrighted television series “Fruits Basket” on Megavideo.com.
Death by shoujo.
Jan 19, 2012 4:57 PM

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This is a joke right? : (
Jan 19, 2012 5:06 PM

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I WISH this was a joke >_>
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Jan 19, 2012 5:07 PM

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http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9223557/Feds_charge_7_in_massive_case_against_Megaupload_online_piracy_ring?taxonomyId=82

This article explains the situation to some extent. It also shows that SOPA is unnecessary considering we have laws already to deal with piracy.
Jan 19, 2012 5:18 PM

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I can't even imagine the reactions of those who have renewed their Prenium subscription recently.
Jan 19, 2012 5:33 PM

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So they DID take it down...I found it odd when I tried it this morning (damn this is getting crazy!!)
Jan 19, 2012 5:35 PM

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Hey guys did you hear? Napster was taken down.

Oh wait.
Jan 19, 2012 6:26 PM

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I don't really understand all the outrage. Megaupload is being charged for serious crimes well beyond pirating.
1. conspiracy to commit rackateering
2. Copyright infringement (skipping the other pirating related charges)
3. conspiracy to commit money laundering

Actually reading through the entire indictment there is a lot of stuff mentioned that makes me wonder how the hell they stayed up as long as they did. Even in the pirating department they are saying they told them to take down 39 video's and a year later 31 were still up. And some of the emails included in the indictment are pretty damning in and of themselves. Including them discussing the rewards programming (paying people for popular uploads) and the types of files the people were uploading. So essentially acknowledging they were paying for uploads of copyrighted material.

In the end it was their own damn fault....

Link to the indictment just in case you're actually curious.

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/284649/united-states-of-america-v-kim-dotcom-megaupload.pdf

Jan 19, 2012 6:28 PM

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Well I wont deny that there's alot of pirated stuff I've downloaded there and I understand why it's been taken down. But now I wont be able to get some anime from them anymore which kinda makes me feel down... and gloomy.
Jan 19, 2012 6:50 PM

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mmm 2012 im feeling it, the Mayans were right about everything afterall


Jan 19, 2012 6:56 PM

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Corleone said:
I can't even imagine the reactions of those who have renewed their Prenium subscription recently.

Lol Yeah that really sucks for them. >.>

On a site Note, was it just Megaupload or was Megavideo taken down too?
Jan 19, 2012 6:57 PM

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Usually I use those site to download anime, software, etc. Curse SOPA ==;
Jan 19, 2012 6:59 PM

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Shay-Chan09 said:
but this is why several of these industries are going out of business


Source?
Jan 19, 2012 6:59 PM

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It was all the mega sites: megavideo, megaupload, etc.
Jan 19, 2012 7:02 PM

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ironic that this was the one to go, out of all the filesharing sites, megaupload is the one ive seen to take down the most content for infringement...



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Jan 19, 2012 7:03 PM

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Shay-Chan09 said:
It was all the mega sites: megavideo, megaupload, etc.


don't forget megaporn =P

Jan 19, 2012 7:07 PM

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Shay-Chan09 said:
It was all the mega sites: megavideo, megaupload, etc.


Ahhh okay. Cool thank you for the Clarification. ^^
Jan 19, 2012 7:08 PM

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And nothing of value was lost.

Time to use mediafire, folks.
Jan 19, 2012 7:12 PM

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Great.... now where can I download old shows?
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Jan 19, 2012 7:15 PM

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Shay-Chan09 said:
Ummmmm hello Bandai is going out of business and so did Geneon a couple of years ago. While pirating wasn't the only reasons why these companies failed it was definitely apart of the problem. Greg Ayers a well known voice actor has done several panels talking about fan subs and pirating and how it is hurting the anime business.


A couple companies going out of business means piracy is the cause, or even involved? In what decade and what industry have at least a couple companies not gone out of business?

If piracy is harmful, that means it harms all companies that sell intellectual media. not just a few of them, and I don't really see anybody offering evidence of that. The movie industry is doing better now than it was 15 years ago, despite piracy and despite the state of the economy.
Jan 19, 2012 7:27 PM

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Shay-Chan09 said:
Ummmmm hello Bandai is going out of business and so did Geneon a couple of years ago. While pirating wasn't the only reasons why these companies failed it was definitely apart of the problem. Greg Ayers a well known voice actor has done several panels talking about fan subs and pirating and how it is hurting the anime business.


It's not the only reason, that is true, and someone would be hard pressed to say it's the main reason. One could easily say if the parent companies in both situations had taken a step back and did not demand as much as they did, the companies might have had more success. It really is a hard feat to prove how much pirating hurts or helps an industry. I am sure it does hurt, but I don't for a second believe either of these companies would have been fine if pirating didn't exist.

Jan 19, 2012 7:29 PM

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Shay-Chan09 said:
Ummmmm hello Bandai is going out of business and so did Geneon a couple of years ago. While pirating wasn't the only reasons why these companies failed it was definitely apart of the problem.
A bad economy and bad business decisions are what causes a company to go out of business, not piracy.

Piracy is not as bad as companies make it out to be.

Greg Ayers a well known voice actor has done several panels talking about fan subs and pirating and how it is hurting the anime business.
How much you wanna bet he was paid to do it?
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rekindledflame said:
Shay-Chan09 said:
Ummmmm hello Bandai is going out of business and so did Geneon a couple of years ago. While pirating wasn't the only reasons why these companies failed it was definitely apart of the problem. Greg Ayers a well known voice actor has done several panels talking about fan subs and pirating and how it is hurting the anime business.


It's not the only reason, that is true, and someone would be hard pressed to say it's the main reason. One could easily say if the parent companies in both situations had taken a step back and did not demand as much as they did, the companies might have had more success. It really is a hard feat to prove how much pirating hurts or helps an industry. I am sure it does hurt, but I don't for a second believe either of these companies would have been fine if pirating didn't exist.


I would guess that a big part of what took down Bandai was the fact that they were still selling singles, unlike everyone else who went to box sets. Certainly a big part of what kept me from buying K-On!

Jan 19, 2012 7:38 PM

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I won't negate the fact it's wrong. I absolutely agree it is. Do I still do it though? Of course, because more often than not there just isn't any other option. Majority of shows will never get licensed and if they do, then sites like crunchyroll are more conveniant. Which is legal of course as I pay a subscription, but that only covers a very very small percent of anime out there.

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Shay-Chan09 said:

I didn't mean that it was the only cause but you can't say that it's not a part of the problem.For the movie industry I don't really know much about but I really was talking about the anime industry. The anime industry has started to go downhill in the past couple of years and it doesn't seem to be because of lost of interest. Regardless that many companies do go out of business that doesn't make piracy right. I'm not going to lie I used to watch fan subs of anime and also would watch anime on non legit sites but after hearing about Bandai and seeing what was happening in the industry I stopped. Once again there are other reasons for those companies failing but regardless I still feel that pirating is wrong.


Actually, I can say it's not part of the problem if I want to, because as far as I know, nobody has offered any direct evidence that it is. It's taken as a fact, based on pure speculation, by too many people, that piracy is the same thing as physical theft and has the same consequences. It's completely different, though. Supply and demand is different with digital media because there is virtually infinite supply, and costs associated with producing more copies of an anime have nothing to do with the intellectual property and everything to do with what physical form it is sold in. Once the show is made, though, it could be shown to almost every human being on earth at virtually no extra cost to the company that made it.

So digital media is a question of demand. The more demand you have, the more money you get, because you can meet 100% of the demand in one way or another. Advertising increases demand, and while piracy offers a way to get the media free, it also advertises the media and increases demand for it and for all its related products.

And not every view has to result in a sale. That's how television works... they can offer media for free simply because some of the people watching will spend money on some of the advertising partners. Is it theft to watch a show on TV, even though you didn't pay for it? Of course not, that's ridiculous, even though it's profitable for the companies in a way that is very similar to piracy.

So with digital media, any sales lost to piracy are, to some extent, offset by the demand that piracy generates for the media. To what extent has not really been shown very well, and it could very possibly be 100% or more, since these industries are still fully staffed and churning out media, so I don't think it makes sense to just assume that piracy is even harmful.
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