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Jan 17, 2012 4:29 PM

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haha, Remon is the best character ever. My score for this anime goes up every time she laughs.
 
Jan 17, 2012 5:07 PM
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Remon is hilarious. Lol at her getting everyone drunk.
I wonder what's wrong with Kaito..? I like this show, hope it stays good.
 
Jan 17, 2012 5:15 PM

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Meh, Remon's probably the only reason I'll keep watching this. The love triangle between generic male mc, Chie and the boring alien doesn't do it for me.
 
Jan 17, 2012 5:43 PM

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another good episode wonder what will happen next

lol at Remon getting everyone drunk
 
Jan 17, 2012 7:16 PM

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this series is getting good. it seems to be straying away from its onegai teacher shell for the most part, which is very nice

loli-lemon is one sly fiend, and IM LOVING IT xDDDDD my fav character so far (LOVE THAT LAUGH)

and i smell a confession in the next episode o.O

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Jan 17, 2012 7:49 PM

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I have a strange feeling this anime is sequel to Onegai Teacher/Twins.
The main protagonist Ichika could be offspring of Kei X Misuho (from Onegai) due to Similar hair color.
She came to earth to explore the place where her mother fell in love with her earthing father. (she refers to the tree and lake). There's reference to Pokki.

Remon-chan could be Ichigo Morino from Onegai (same person with name changed, so that people don't notice that she didn't age) *think there was a plot in onegai where she was physically on stand-still ? unaged for 6 years (reminds me of Immortal Evangeline from negima)
It isn't first time i've seen her giving that juice. She uses the same drink on onegai twins ep6.
Same voice actor.
She seems to recognize the alien pet (no hint of surprise).
"It took me 20 years to develop and 5 years to write"

And there's bit of Toradora X Ano Hi due to
- Art Director (from Toradora & Ano Hi)
- Script Writer (from Onegai Teacher/Twins)
- 2 different char. designers (from Onegai & Toradora/Ano Hi)

And 6/5 for teasing us by ending the episode teasingly.




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Oh my goodness that would be so incredibly AWESOME!!! :D Its like now that I think about it your right. It does seem that way and it would make so much sense! Either you're right or that's all the creators know how to do...o.o



 
Jan 17, 2012 8:11 PM

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さいゆうせんじこうよ!www

 
Jan 17, 2012 8:18 PM

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Another great episode! I haven't actually ''loved'' an episode in almost a few months now! That itself shows just how great this anime is coming along so far. The only thing is that I feel like it should have taken more time to let all this drama and love triangle (in this case like a pentagon) to come into play. The setup seemed really out of nowhere. And that could have easily been a different story if the series was longer than 12 episodes (which really sucks). Other than that, what an episode. Remon put alcohol in the drinks and let them drink themselves to sleep. Well, at least Kanna. But, I wonder what Remon is really like? I love her seiyuu, great job and perfect fit. And that last scene. EXCELLENT. So much build up, JUST FROM THAT! That was excellent on the directors end! I can tell this series is going to leave an impact! Looking forward to the next!
 
Jan 17, 2012 9:15 PM

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Ahhh so many love triangle things, it's driving me crazy!

I absolutely adore Lemon; she is devious and my favorite character by far in this series.

I can't believe, though, that when Ichika's little alien helper friend unexpectedly came out that no one thought it was strange (of course, they were drinking, but still). I'm excited for when they all find out she's really an alien.

Can't wait for the next episode~
 
Jan 17, 2012 10:40 PM

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dat forehead kiss

I jelly
 
Jan 17, 2012 11:42 PM
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I love this series and love how its related to Onegai Teacher. Personally, Onegai Teacher was one of the best romance stories i have seen.

What really got me thinking, however, was the scene when Ishigaki rejected Kaitos confession. Why did Ishigaki reject kaito's confession? How did Ishigaki know Kaito loves her?

What do you guys think?
I really wonder why she rejected him.
I am currently in deep thought. Thinking why this occured.....
 
Jan 18, 2012 12:58 AM

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This anime is awesome.....

5/5
 
Jan 18, 2012 1:14 AM
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What do you guys think?


You confused Ichika with Ishigaki. I can't say I believe it to have been a confession in the making, but rather an honest expression about all the events leading up to that current moment. The two of them are comfortable with each other, and Ichika seems to understand Kaito and what he was about to say. Sure, she rejects the words that need not be spoken, but with a broad and gentle smile that speaks more than words.
 
Jan 18, 2012 1:28 AM

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Aw, I love this series so far! The part of me that loves stereotypical shoujo manga is loving when Kaito breaks out in his weird literal hives and when Ichika rushes to help him. Awwwww.

But from the fact that this is the next in the Onegai series/franchise (according to TV Tropes), I highly doubt Kaito will die by the end. If anything, I'm expecting like the end of Onegai Teacher where:

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Jan 18, 2012 3:37 AM

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aaa... love this episode.
 
Jan 18, 2012 5:01 AM

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Hilarious episode! Loved it from the start till the end! It's getting more interesting too! Ichika is so cute!!!
 
Jan 18, 2012 5:14 AM

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Knowing the makers of this, there's going to be love triangles and squares everywhere.

I quite like it so far, though the idea of Ichika needing to kiss Kai like that to repair him isn't all that great.

Unfortunately, the ending is probably going to be Ichika x Kai no matter what. Would be nice if it ends otherwise though.
 
Jan 18, 2012 6:02 AM

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ICHIKA = OLEV
 
Jan 18, 2012 7:11 AM

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To me this anime is still quite average, it is predictable, seems to be moving a bit fast also it is a bit to much like Onegai Teacher just tweaked in places. It does has still have time to develop and become its own though so i wont hate it for that.
Most the characters are ok but nothing amazing though Remon is nice to watch. If they want to break the mold a bit should make Kaito ignore the other girls and just end up with Remon, but that would never happen so thats a shame.
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Jan 18, 2012 7:29 AM

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Anyone else of the opinion that Kaito was not going to confess to Ichika at the end of the episode?

 
Jan 18, 2012 8:05 AM

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...and then Lemon molested everyone to sleep.
 
Jan 18, 2012 8:28 AM

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I really liked Kaito's sister.

Shame she has to go to abroad.
 
Jan 18, 2012 10:10 AM

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"Lemon"? I thought her name was Remon. Whatever. Given a couple of body language hints, the thing about the script taking "20 years to develop and 5 years to write", and her non-reaction to Ichika's 'pet' (she was drinking, but I'm willing to bet she was mostly sober), I'm wondering if she's also from Elsewhere like Ichika.

KaitoDash said:
And Mio loves him?
This is so complicated as hell.


Looks like there are emotional land mines all over the place in this story ;)


Yeah if things really are like that then quite a few emotional landmines since everyone loves a different person except maybe alien girl and protagonist pair.

I had the same suspicion as you by watching Lemon in this episode. She may very well not be human ether.

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I kinda don't like Kanna because she gets in the way of Ichika and Kaito, but love triangles make romances all the more better.


That's only because we see the story from their perspective. We should be smart enough to not be sheep that simply just agree with the perspective given or at least see the story from different angles. From her side she's just seen the new girl getting in her way. Lets not forget that Ichika is the one that appeared out of nowhere. So as Kanna sees it she was maybe making steady steps towards him and now suddenly this new girl gets in the way.

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So.......did Kai die and Ichika is keeping him alive? I'm just confused about that stuff that appears on his body occasionally.
My theory is simple for now. Kaito's body is just reacting badly to the treatment. I suspect nano reactions or something like that. Regardless the kiss Ichika gave to Kaito seems to promote stability that much we do know.

We also do not know if his wounds were fatal. From the looks it big fat YES! Yet it's assumed for we do not know it. From the looks of it Kaito needs Ichika or he dies from the reaction itself.


I wonder if that may lead to him needing to be constantly treated or live in her planet so he can keep living and end up with an ending that makes leave with her.
 
Jan 18, 2012 10:22 AM

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Oh, that ED. Nagi's just so great.
 
Jan 18, 2012 11:18 AM

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Monad said:
Yumekichi11 said:
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So.......did Kai die and Ichika is keeping him alive? I'm just confused about that stuff that appears on his body occasionally.
My theory is simple for now. Kaito's body is just reacting badly to the treatment. I suspect nano reactions or something like that. Regardless the kiss Ichika gave to Kaito seems to promote stability that much we do know.

We also do not know if his wounds were fatal. From the looks it big fat YES! Yet it's assumed for we do not know it. From the looks of it Kaito needs Ichika or he dies from the reaction itself.


I wonder if that may lead to him needing to be constantly treated or live in her planet so he can keep living and end up with an ending that makes leave with her.
Might leave with her but from the looks of it I think she is the one stuck. That quantum link thingy....is that like for communications? If so then it being broke sucks for Ichika. No SOS possible. Furthermore the hull needs special materiel. So I doubt she will leave but who knows.

What I want am more curious is the gang's relations after the drinking party.

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Jan 18, 2012 11:23 AM

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Am I the only one who's disappointed with that show?

- the characters "love" each other for no reason, all their feelings are is just blushing and stuff like that. Still that's enough for them to be jealous of each other.

- the plot is progressing too fast. I mean what, he's been around her since yesterday and he's already in love with her? Heck, he's been sleeping/unconscious most of the time anyway!

- the story is not original at all. I heard it was similar to Onegai Teacher but heck, it's one and the same! Nothing new here, nothing at all!

- the drunk scene was so stupid and pointless it hurt. Get a grip, people, it's not funny when a group of teenagers do something like that! Even if it was to further the plot, I'd be more or less displeased, but it wasn't even that!

- Lemon. Hating her now. It's always nice to see an evil mastermind pulling the strings but note it's "masterMIND". Oh, how clever, giving the people alcohol so they do what we need them to do... But no, it's even worse! She had no reason for doing it! It was just for... for... I dunno for what. It's pointless, not funny.

Unless something truly interesting happens in episode 3, I'll probably be dropping that thing soon.
 
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Were they drunk? That whole sequence when they were playing the "king" game was fun to watch. "#2 have sex with #1" LMFAO! I like Lemon now, not only is she really evil but she really reminds me of Taiga. It ain't as dramatic as I expected (I was expecting more of an Anohana environment) but this is still a fun show to watch.

Just note that there might be some fanservice in the way. I mean coming from this episode, Ichika just loves to be sexy. And the VA is also the voice of Anaru (from Anohana).....both love to show off that they're gorgeous. Hmm coincidence?

Coming from these 2 starting episodes, I really find this show entertaining and one that I will really follow this season.



 
Jan 18, 2012 12:06 PM

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So what exactly was in that Dynamite Drink? Alcohol? Drugs? Everyone got so drunk and I just knew Kanna would begin about them living together. Lemon is so manipulative, expecially with the game "Who's the King?". So that's how she's planning to make a film huh? Just drug them and film their antics. xD

I can already see the love triangles heating up too. We know Kanna likes Kaito and Kaito likes Ichika, but it appears that Tetsurou may like Kanna judging by his "I'm am the idiot" following Kanna's mumbling about Kaito. Confusedddd. o_O
 
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- the drunk scene was so stupid and pointless it hurt. Get a grip, people, it's not funny when a group of teenagers do something like that! Even if it was to further the plot, I'd be more or less displeased, but it wasn't even that!

Yeah it was funny. Get your head out of your butt.

 
Jan 18, 2012 1:09 PM

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lol Lemon got them all drunk. xD
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So what exactly was in that Dynamite Drink? Alcohol? Drugs? Everyone got so drunk and I just knew Kanna would begin about them living together. Lemon is so manipulative, expecially with the game "Who's the King?". So that's how she's planning to make a film huh? Just drug them and film their antics. xD

I can already see the love triangles heating up too. We know Kanna likes Kaito and Kaito likes Ichika, but it appears that Tetsurou may like Kanna judging by his "I'm am the idiot" following Kanna's mumbling about Kaito. Confusedddd. o_O


Japan is a very anti-drug society. But they all like to get drunk off Sake. So it would be safe to assume that she just mixed sake or some other alcohol into the drink.
 
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eworm said:
Am I the only one who's disappointed with that show?



Pretty much.

Look, the reason that characters already have crushes on each other is that they had a life prior to the event that begins the show (the crash of the spacecraft and damage to Kai). Ichika's intrusion into the existing relationships shakes things up, and also starts a process of resolving some of those existing love polygons.

If you buy in to the very plausible theory that this is actually a sequel to Onegai Sensei, the actions of some characters like Remon (Lemon) make a lot more sense. And a sequel to a much-loved show doesn't have to be totally original to be successful. How big an audience do you think a continuation of Toradora would draw?

In vino veritas. Get people drunk and they begin to reveal the things they keep secret--like the various love interests behind the scenes. All in all they were rather sweet drunks. Gods forbid that teenagers would actually ever engage in drinking or in sex....

If Remon really is the same character under a different name as in the first two Onegai series, then she does have a reason to do what she does. Perhaps not a morally defensible reason from your point of view, but a reason that makes sense in light of her personal (and tragic) circumstances.

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Jan 18, 2012 4:36 PM

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I'm pretty sure Remon is the devil and that I would sacrifice my everything to her.


Yep.
 
Jan 18, 2012 6:49 PM

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I'm liking this quite a bit so far. I wonder where that landscape is.

That was an awesome game of Simon Says.
 
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What do you guys think?


You confused Ichika with Ishigaki. I can't say I believe it to have been a confession in the making, but rather an honest expression about all the events leading up to that current moment. The two of them are comfortable with each other, and Ichika seems to understand Kaito and what he was about to say. Sure, she rejects the words that need not be spoken, but with a broad and gentle smile that speaks more than words.


I completely agree with your thoughts. However, that scene was a bit of a tease. The romance is moving unexpectedly fast.
 
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Rooting for Kanna so hard. She reminds me of an Anjou that just gets screwed over. >.>

Meh. Anjou >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kanna.
 
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LordFroz said:
I completely agree with your thoughts. However, that scene was a bit of a tease. The romance is moving unexpectedly fast.


Can't say I don't like it. Really like seeing so much surface. I applaude Remon for making it all happen.

Kanna is in a bad spot, sure, but it's never too soon to realise you can't sit around and wait when love has shown itself. If Kaito and Ichika fall for each other, then good for them and hopefully Kanna will work through it in a healthy way and learn from it. That goes for the rest of them as well.
 
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onzeedge said:
LordFroz said:
I completely agree with your thoughts. However, that scene was a bit of a tease. The romance is moving unexpectedly fast.


Can't say I don't like it. Really like seeing so much surface. I applaude Remon for making it all happen.

Kanna is in a bad spot, sure, but it's never too soon to realise you can't sit around and wait when love has shown itself. If Kaito and Ichika fall for each other, then good for them and hopefully Kanna will work through it in a healthy way and learn from it. That goes for the rest of them as well.


Kanna is definitely in a bad spot. She has to compete with the overwhelming sexual attractiveness of Ichika.

Knowing Onegai Sensei, Kei Kusanagi fell for the alien teacher, Mizuho Kazami rather than Koishi Herikawa. People can presume that the protagonist, Kaito, will fall for Ichika rather than Kanna in the end. However, the anime may take a different turn of events. Maybe the author wrote this to give people an anime in which the protagonist, Kaito, will not fall for the alien girl, (unlike what happened in Onegai Sensei). Maybe Kaito will fall for Kanna in the end? The author may have wrote this to please the audience who favors a childhood friend romance ending (Kanna and Kaito together).

Who knows?
 
Jan 19, 2012 1:12 AM

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Oh Ichika's such a tease. Poor Kaito-kun xD

I'm digging this show :)
 
Jan 19, 2012 2:21 AM

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I like the supporting characters more than the main.
Looking forward to the romance in this show.
 
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Who knows?


A possibility I wouldn't mind. Then again the conclusion is not that important as long as the character interactions up to that point are satisfying. Who ends up with who is ultimately just a matter of taste, rather than good direction etc.
 
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LordFroz said:
onzeedge said:
LordFroz said:
I completely agree with your thoughts. However, that scene was a bit of a tease. The romance is moving unexpectedly fast.


Can't say I don't like it. Really like seeing so much surface. I applaude Remon for making it all happen.

Kanna is in a bad spot, sure, but it's never too soon to realise you can't sit around and wait when love has shown itself. If Kaito and Ichika fall for each other, then good for them and hopefully Kanna will work through it in a healthy way and learn from it. That goes for the rest of them as well.


Kanna is definitely in a bad spot. She has to compete with the overwhelming sexual attractiveness of Ichika.

Knowing Onegai Sensei, Kei Kusanagi fell for the alien teacher, Mizuho Kazami rather than Koishi Herikawa. People can presume that the protagonist, Kaito, will fall for Ichika rather than Kanna in the end. However, the anime may take a different turn of events. Maybe the author wrote this to give people an anime in which the protagonist, Kaito, will not fall for the alien girl, (unlike what happened in Onegai Sensei). Maybe Kaito will fall for Kanna in the end? The author may have wrote this to please the audience who favors a childhood friend romance ending (Kanna and Kaito together).

Who knows?


What more interesting is the fact Kanna's plan B MIGHT be Ishigaki this time, instead of a monkey wrench teacher in Onegai Teacher. However, I don't think Ichigaki's "I'm the idiot" comment right after Kanna's "Kaito, you idiot" comment was a prelude to him having feelings for her. I think it meant something else.

I have two other plausible theories.

The first one is that I think Ishigaki feels guilt for introducing the group together; because now Kaito and Ichika seem to be an item and it is breaking Kanna's heart. He has already shown encouragement for Kanna chasing Kaito a couple of times. He might feel that Ichika and Kaito's closeness is a direct result of him pushing Kaito into meeting Ichika and Remon for the first time.

The second theory is that Ishigaki likes Ichika himself. So he used Kaito and the film club as a rouse to meet with Remon and Ichika. But it's backfiring because instead of him being around Ichika more, it seems like Kaito is the focus of her attention. So his plan of using Kaito as a crutch to meet Ichika, instead of approaching her on his own, might have backfired on him.
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I'm really liking this show so far, love the soundtrack.
I like the side characters more than Ichika.
Lol at evil Remon.
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Cirris said:
LordFroz said:
onzeedge said:
LordFroz said:
I completely agree with your thoughts. However, that scene was a bit of a tease. The romance is moving unexpectedly fast.


Can't say I don't like it. Really like seeing so much surface. I applaude Remon for making it all happen.

Kanna is in a bad spot, sure, but it's never too soon to realise you can't sit around and wait when love has shown itself. If Kaito and Ichika fall for each other, then good for them and hopefully Kanna will work through it in a healthy way and learn from it. That goes for the rest of them as well.


Kanna is definitely in a bad spot. She has to compete with the overwhelming sexual attractiveness of Ichika.

Knowing Onegai Sensei, Kei Kusanagi fell for the alien teacher, Mizuho Kazami rather than Koishi Herikawa. People can presume that the protagonist, Kaito, will fall for Ichika rather than Kanna in the end. However, the anime may take a different turn of events. Maybe the author wrote this to give people an anime in which the protagonist, Kaito, will not fall for the alien girl, (unlike what happened in Onegai Sensei). Maybe Kaito will fall for Kanna in the end? The author may have wrote this to please the audience who favors a childhood friend romance ending (Kanna and Kaito together).

Who knows?


What more interesting is the fact Kanna's plan B MIGHT be Ishigaki this time, instead of a monkey wrench teacher in Onegai Teacher. However, I don't think Ichigaki's "I'm the idiot" comment right after Kanna's "Kaito, you idiot" comment was a prelude to him having feelings for her. I think it meant something else.

I have two other plausible theories.

The first one is that I think Ishigaki feels guilt for introducing the group together; because now Kaito and Ichika seem to be an item and it is breaking Kanna's heart. He has already shown encouragement for Kanna chasing Kaito a couple of times. He might feel that Ichika and Kaito's closeness is a direct result of him pushing Kaito into meeting Ichika and Remon for the first time.

The second theory is that Ishigaki likes Ichika himself. So he used Kaito and the film club as a rouse to meet with Remon and Ichika. But it's backfiring because instead of him being around Ichika more, it seems like Kaito is the focus of her attention. So his plan of using Kaito as a crutch to meet Ichika, instead of approaching her on his own, might have backfired on him.


Your interpretation and perception of that scene is quite fascinating. I wouldn't be bothered if that does happen. Like Onzeedge said, it doesn't matter who the characters end up with as long as the events leading up to the ending are satisfying.

I'm loving this series so far- just as i did on Onegai Sensei. I presume we will probably understand the anime more once episode three comes out.

Lets look forward to it!
 
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onzeedge said:
LordFroz said:
Who knows?


A possibility I wouldn't mind. Then again the conclusion is not that important as long as the character interactions up to that point are satisfying. Who ends up with who is ultimately just a matter of taste, rather than good direction etc.


My thoughts exactly. I tried to cheat to see if i could find online what will happen in the end. I guess that's not a good way to enjoy an anime right? :P

I always look forward to a new episode!
 
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This episode was pretty boring and highly predictable even the alcohol.
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Jan 20, 2012 5:05 AM
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Cirris said:
I have two other plausible theories.


Whoa, I agree with Froz, nice there - very possible you're on the right track. Yummy!

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My thoughts exactly. I tried to cheat to see if i could find online what will happen in the end. I guess that's not a good way to enjoy an anime right? :P

I always look forward to a new episode!


Nothing wrong with that. I almost enjoy it as much, if not even more, discussing and reading about other viewers' opinions, than actually watching this show. Same goes for Another. So.. I'm in no position to criticize. Heh.

Finally weekend, the next set of episodes for this season are nearing, oh yeah!
 
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Kudos to you for your alternate theories on the whole glancing and "idiot" thing at the end. Those never even crossed my mind but are definitely possible. It'd be cool to see a show go through those as opposed to jumping straight to the love triangle.

Too bad this show is only 12 episodes. I have a feeling I'm going to wish it was twice that by the end.

 
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Cirris said:

I have two other plausible theories.

I just wrote a lengthy "TL Note" for this series including a detailed analysis on the "idiot" line.
http://8ths.in/2012/01/20/ano-natsu-de-matteru-ep12-tl-notes-observations/

I am fairly certain that Ishigaki actually likes Tanigawa Kanna.
I'm sure you hear the stock phrase "I'm not being honest with myself", "She's not being honest with herself" in anime very often, and this is one of those cases. Kanna despite being tsundere, is very honest to her feeling of love (and easy to read) while Tetsurou is not, and has not shown obvious signs of it until that "idiot" line.
 
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Better than expected! *.* Tragic ending anyone?Love polygon....? Damn..>.>
 
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