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Jan 11, 2012 10:51 PM

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Let me make it clear what this thread is about.

Describe one(or some) of the biggest plotholes you can think of and place them here, like ones from Angel Beats!/Madoka/ or whatever series you can think of.

Also feel free to mention moment in a series where you basically felt like standing up and saying "That's bullcrap!"(whether it be a "fixed" battle or whatever the reason.)

This is NOT a "hate" thread, unless you want it to be. This is a "how in the world did that happen?" type of thread.

I have many, but I don't want to flood the first post.I'm interested in seeing other's responses.
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Jan 11, 2012 10:57 PM

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Mirai Nikki. No way in hell, you take hostages, kill a couple of people, and get off completely free like nothing happened. I thought it was a pretty awesome show before that, but that made it a much worse show for me on the spot.
 
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Jan 11, 2012 11:04 PM
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Pandora Hearts. The ending (the anime at least, yet to read manga). 'nuff said.
 
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Toshokan Sensou - why would you make two contradicting laws that would induce civil war throughout the country? Stopped watching within ten minutes of the show.
 
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I'm going to laugh at anyone that says Clannad After Story ending was stupid.

I realise that it's
but the whole foundation for the event was planned out and worked toward through BOTH seasons.
 
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Jan 11, 2012 11:16 PM
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JesusMcAllah said:
I'm going to laugh at anyone that says Clannad After Story ending was stupid.

I realise that it's
but the whole foundation for the event was planned out and worked toward through BOTH seasons.


Though I agree, it's not explained as well in the anime as it is in the VN, if the correlation between Tomoya helping everyone and obtaining the orbs of light was explained better I'm sure people wouldn't complain about it as much.
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in True Tears.


and Naruto is just full of these sorts of moments.


 
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Jan 11, 2012 11:23 PM

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Primity said:

and Naruto is just full of these sorts of moments.

We want to hear examples
 
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Jan 11, 2012 11:45 PM

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grandy_UiD said:
We want to hear examples




probably a few other ones I could mention but these are the ones that stand out to me most when it comes to "How does this work," "Why did this happen," or "That's bullshit" classifications. in all above scenarios I thought "this is dumb" while I was reading.


 
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Primity said:
grandy_UiD said:
We want to hear examples




probably a few other ones I could mention but these are the ones that stand out to me most when it comes to "How does this work," "Why did this happen," or "That's bullshit" classifications. in all above scenarios I thought "this is dumb" while I was reading.


I completely agree on that! ^^
 
Jan 11, 2012 11:58 PM

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mitch3315 said:
JesusMcAllah said:
I'm going to laugh at anyone that says Clannad After Story ending was stupid.

I realise that it's
but the whole foundation for the event was planned out and worked toward through BOTH seasons.


Though I agree, it's not explained as well in the anime as it is in the VN, if the correlation between Tomoya helping everyone and obtaining the orbs of light was explained better I'm sure people wouldn't complain about it as much.

Didn't the episode involving the gang war explain it? If I recall, it said if you collected enough orbs of light, you could make a wish.
 
Jan 12, 2012 12:44 AM
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SeraVerte said:
mitch3315 said:
JesusMcAllah said:
I'm going to laugh at anyone that says Clannad After Story ending was stupid.

I realise that it's
but the whole foundation for the event was planned out and worked toward through BOTH seasons.


Though I agree, it's not explained as well in the anime as it is in the VN, if the correlation between Tomoya helping everyone and obtaining the orbs of light was explained better I'm sure people wouldn't complain about it as much.

Didn't the episode involving the gang war explain it? If I recall, it said if you collected enough orbs of light, you could make a wish.


It said if a person is able to obtain an orb of light they can grant a wish, it was never mentioned how a person goes about getting them.
 
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Angel Beats!
 
Jan 12, 2012 4:26 AM

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Angel Beats!

 
Jan 12, 2012 4:43 AM

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Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ comes to mind with this WTF moment...

 
Jan 12, 2012 5:02 AM

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kyuubeys said:
Angel Beats!



 
Jan 12, 2012 5:06 AM

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kyuubeys said:
Angel Beats!


Agreed. A lot of people say its one of the best love stories but I was more pissed at the end then anything. I mean the whole story took a 180 at about eps 9/10 then the final one was the kicker with me going wtf through the whole thing.


 
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I know it's Gainax but the whole last fight scene in TTGLagann was WTF and not in a nice way. I realize many people are going gung-ho great about it but...it was an ugly resolution to a battle for me.
 
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In TTGL, the militant trained anti-spiral army that outnumbers the rag tag group of spirals by a million to one are getting easily decimated without really killing anyone.
 
Jan 13, 2012 11:51 PM

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Mirai Nikki. No way in hell, you take hostages, kill a couple of people, and get off completely free like nothing happened. I thought it was a pretty awesome show before that, but that made it a much worse show for me on the spot.


Of all things you could choose from mirai nikki that's one of the most believable imo.
 
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What do ya know? Somebody gravedug my topic.

Soul Eater had a non-believable ending for 2 reasons.


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Jan 14, 2012 12:25 AM

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For me...

Angel Beats - they did die and they are fighting in the afterlife. What the heck are they fighting for? They die in the battle and revived again. Just what the hell.Their fighting didn't have any purpose that made sense.

Bleach - Why the heck Ulquiorra disintegrated just like that? Do hollows disintigrate when weakened? No. Only when they are defeated. Seriously. And those Full Bring powers. If your parents are killed by hollows, you get Full Bring powers? Ridiculous.

C - What is the real purpose of the Financial District? I know that you gain money when you bankrupt someone in battle, but who is behind it? And who the heck are these Masakakis? (I really like this anime, but I would have loved it more if it continued longer. I think it had the potential)

No. 6 - Where did those virus bees come from? Who the heck is Elyurias?
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Jan 14, 2012 12:44 AM

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I felt KuroKami was full of such stuff. Take the basic premise for instance.
 
Jan 14, 2012 1:02 AM

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Madoka
 
Jan 14, 2012 1:07 AM

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Vanisher said:
SSJBeastmode said:
Mirai Nikki. No way in hell, you take hostages, kill a couple of people, and get off completely free like nothing happened. I thought it was a pretty awesome show before that, but that made it a much worse show for me on the spot.


Of all things you could choose from mirai nikki that's one of the most believable imo.


No kidding, just wait for the massive plot holes that come at the end of the manga.



Anyways, best example I can think of

Hanasaku Iroha


Its shit like this that turned that show from being semi decent to decidedly average.
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Jan 14, 2012 1:27 AM

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This made no sense and made me mad, even more so the second time watching it.




Thinking about some of the plotholes of Madoka make my brain hurt.

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grandy_UiD said:
Madoka




Remnants- said:
grandy_UiD said:

Thinking about some of the plotholes of Madoka make my brain hurt.[/color]


 
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kyuubeys said:
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Angel Beats!





thats wrong, because he had regrets when he died
he wanted to become a doctor to help people and he couldnt accomplish that
also he wanted to save the ppl in the tunnel and just when rescue came he died, so he died with the thought, that he couldnt rescue them
 
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RoCSC-006C1BST said:

It's never said that the capacity of a witch is always directly related to her powers as a mahou shoujo.


erm...yes it was?

or something along that line.
 
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leingodf8 said:
Vanisher said:
SSJBeastmode said:
Mirai Nikki. No way in hell, you take hostages, kill a couple of people, and get off completely free like nothing happened. I thought it was a pretty awesome show before that, but that made it a much worse show for me on the spot.


Of all things you could choose from mirai nikki that's one of the most believable imo.


No kidding, just wait for the massive plot holes that come at the end of the manga.





(mirai nikki manga spoilers)
 
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grandy_UiD said:
RoCSC-006C1BST said:

It's never said that the capacity of a witch is always directly related to her powers as a mahou shoujo.


erm...yes it was?

or something along that line.


 
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grandy_UiD said:
Madoka


As much as I love Madoka, I had to agree with this one.


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RoCSC-006C1BST said:



But isn't despairing pretty much the reason why they turn into witches in the first place?


And even if it did push her to "above average" I still fail to see how Kyouko
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grandy_UiD said:
But isn't despairing pretty much the reason why they turn into witches in the first place?




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And even if it did push her to "above average" I still fail to see how Kyouko


 
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RoCSC-006C1BST said:
I believe people are supposing Madoka is much more complex than it really is
Truer words were rarely spoken. Funny because with the stuff you've been saying so far I thought you were one of the people overthinking things.
To me, this scene was just a simple and obvious plothole, nothing more, nothing less. I just feel like whenever you point out the flaws of Madoka you get ass raped by all the rabid fanboys/girls failing (or refusing) to see the weaknesses of the show, trying to over explain everything so that it makes sense in the end (and therefore the show flawless again).
 
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grandy_UiD said:
RoCSC-006C1BST said:
I believe people are supposing Madoka is much more complex than it really is
Truer words were rarely spoken. Funny because with the stuff you've been saying so far I thought you were one of the people overthinking things.
To me, this scene was just a simple and obvious plothole, nothing more, nothing less. I just feel like whenever you point out the flaws of Madoka you get ass raped by all the rabid fanboys/girls failing (or refusing) to see the weaknesses of the show, trying to over explain everything so that it makes sense in the end (and therefore the show flawless again).


Well I might be one who is over-thinking things, who knows, it's hard to know by my own judgement. It's just a "well it doesn't make much sense" plot-hole rather than "OMFG why the bloody hell this happened?" type of plot-hole.

Fan-boys and haters are hard to deal with, but in the end most plot-holes in Madoka doesn't really affect my enjoyment of the series, sort of like Rambo who shoots from a machine gun for 5min even though in reality it would only last mere seconds, "there's a time to live and a time to die". I love good discussions but alas people are so mesmerised by their love that they often can't deliver decent debates about animes.
 
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Heartcatch Precure was pretty well put together, but a couple of things confused me, namely centered around Dark Precure.

 
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Vanisher said:
SSJBeastmode said:
Mirai Nikki. No way in hell, you take hostages, kill a couple of people, and get off completely free like nothing happened. I thought it was a pretty awesome show before that, but that made it a much worse show for me on the spot.


Of all things you could choose from mirai nikki that's one of the most believable imo.


agreed with mirai nikki. it rlly had me hookd until the plot holes

from bleach: wheres nel? wheres grimmjow? howd aizen survive hado 96? why didnt every1 use their bankai together to defeat aizen? head captains bankai?
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kyuubeys said:
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Angel Beats!







D-did... did I miss anything?
... Lolol why do I analyze this so much? I barely even liked this anime the first time around. Typing this actually made me appreciate it more.
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I'm thinking about Shiki.

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Toaru Majutsu no Index


"Life is always a continuation of unpreparedness" - Evangline A.K. McDowell
 
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Angel Beats!


 
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I'm thinking about Shiki.

What's the point in slaughtering everyone? They didn't need all that blood at once. So just living there "peacefully" grabbing a snack every now and then is much more efficient.
They didn't settle down there to make a bloodbath but to live there, after all.

At least as far as I remember.
 
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Madoka

I agree with you but...
I love Madoka, one of my favorite anime. But it isn't perfect.
 
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grandy_UiD said:
Morbyllan said:
I'm thinking about Shiki.

What's the point in slaughtering everyone? They didn't need all that blood at once. So just living there "peacefully" grabbing a snack every now and then is much more efficient.
They didn't settle down there to make a bloodbath but to live there, after all.

At least as far as I remember.

agree. if the vampires slaughter everyone in a single night, how are they going to live for the rest of the days...? they'll be running out of 'food' :<
 
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Fractale, definitely got this reaction from me. Can't name one moment in particular, but the show just fell apart in a big way.
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Just about everything in Angel Beats!...it made no sense to me when
And then everything else.
 
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grandy_UiD said:

What's the point in slaughtering everyone? They didn't need all that blood at once. So just living there "peacefully" grabbing a snack every now and then is much more efficient.
They didn't settle down there to make a bloodbath but to live there, after all.

At least as far as I remember.

I know this, but I'm talking about the part it became pretty much an open war.

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RLinksoul said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcL46NjFDJU&t=5m30s

Why did Vegeta explode?



"No no no no no NO!!!" LMAO!! Those dubbers are silly!
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