| Since im no girl i'll excuse myself from commenting, but what topics/issues make your tomboy/girl blood boil? >:3 |
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| when boys say that girls are supposed to work n the kitchen! and they are not good as boys! that some boys think they can do everything to girls because... they are girls!! and im not talking about people who think that girls are less strong or athletic than boys... its annoying, but almost everyone think like that! even girls...!! aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhh! >:O ......................(calm down, calm down) =_= |
| Similar to what Y-elf said about how girls should be in the kitchen, it annoys me. Plus, when guys tell me how much better guys are at sports than girls. That just makes me want to challenge them right then and there. My brother constantly brags about how girls are inferior to men. He says men are better than women in nearly every way: sports, physical strength, intelligence, good humor, etc. I understand how guys grow taller than women and that they have more muscle, but once I reach my limit, I get ticked off at him. Other than that, I don't get mad often. So, my advice to you: Don't brag about stuff like that. O.o |
| nah im not athlete so im sure many girls can beat me up... and about the kitchen i rather be the one cooking :D i really enjoy it. girls are just the same in other intelligence related issues. unfortunately the physical stuff is true, but if anything blame evolution. I was always pissed off at school cuz in P.E basketball was only for girls, it was really hard to get a basketball team going. |
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Chef_Sanji said: Similar to what Y-elf said about how girls should be in the kitchen, it annoys me. Plus, when guys tell me how much better guys are at sports than girls. That just makes me want to challenge them right then and there. My brother constantly brags about how girls are inferior to men. He says men are better than women in nearly every way: sports, physical strength, intelligence, good humor, etc. I understand how guys grow taller than women and that they have more muscle, but once I reach my limit, I get ticked off at him. Other than that, I don't get mad often. So, my advice to you: Don't brag about stuff like that. O.o cool, finally, someone who thinks like me.. i hate when girls agree and think that guys have to protect them and all because they are better on everything. so finally, a girl who dont agree with all those things. |
| ^ same with me. Its the whole gender role system. even some guys who are way weaker than some girls they still try to put them down, because they think they're the men so they try to be all mighty! |
| Glad we think alike Y-elf. *high fives* Natsuru said: even some guys who are way weaker than some girls they still try to put them down, because they think they're the men so they try to be all mighty! That once happened to me. A kid who was 1 year younger than me kept on bragging about being so strong. He exaggerated stories to make him sound strong. I looked at his arms and I looked at mine, and I was like, "Whoa...I have more muscle than him...that's sad." It turns out, he was just lying and he was a computer geek with skinny wrists who never played sports. :O |
| I remember one time when it was free time in gym. I was in the 5th grade. ALL the girls were sitting in chairs gossiping and I walked up to them and said, "Hey! Let's challenge the guys at basketball!" The replies I got were awful: "Nah, basketball is for boys." "I'm bored!" "We're not strong enough anyway. Guys are better than us at sports." Even most girls are getting lazy and thinking that way. >.> |
| yeah, i always thought that all the girls agree with me. but everytine i was talking with my friends about it ( '- im not going to describe everything i said, lol ><), they were ANGRY and started to argue with me! ''do you really think that girls can beat guys?!'' ''be real'' ''even the most geeky guy can beat girls'' -things like that... so yeah thats why i said that even girls agree with guys, so annoying. and yeah, even guys that i always beat up at sport keep saying that im weaker than them and less athletic. |
| :D I want to hop in this. I'm no female but I'm a rather hardcore feminist. But some things that anger me about women is when they're perfectly ok with gender roles and tradition. Such as "If a boy and girl like each other, the boy asks the girl out" and "Boys play sports and girls just talk" kind of stuff. Of course, when gender equality has been reached I think it's perfectly fine if those sort of things happen INDIVIDUALLY not as a whole gender. Such as in one relationship it just so happens that the man doesn't do anything while the woman cleans and cooks, etc, but there's no subconcious trace of gender inequality. And when it comes to rights and things of this nature, I'm a pretty hardcore individualist. I kind of prefer the reform or, if necessary, the destruction of marriage. Since historically it enforces male dominance and patriarchy, and no one can seem to get that off of their minds. But besides patriarchal jocks, REAL feminists (women are better then men) tick me off as well. Of course I see where some may be coming from when they're real feminists, since men have had a history of doing so many horrible things to women that women deserve to be on the top for a while, but I still oppose it. In the end, REAL gender equality would mean that there's no distinction between the two, the destruction of the female ego and the male ego, we're all people and that's the end of it. I JUMPED AROUND A LOT, awesome. |
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| its ok... you can say whatever you want.. (although its not the place for you to say that but... saying what you think in that way is not rude). so.. anyway.. if you rhink that women can do what men do, why do you think they shouldnt? (and yeah, i guess i really overdid in how i wrote it, but thats really what i think) |
soul4soul said: i happen to find my way here and rlly want to put my 2 cents into the pot <snip> My, that's some flamebait we have here. Just because you like your women to be sweet and frail that doesn't mean every woman has to be like that. Not to mention that you're in no place to decide what's right for a girl to do and what's wrong. tl;dr Archaic views coupled with biological determinism attitudes never fail to make my blood boil. |
| welll people like usually make me angry.. but its ok to have a different opinion.. just why did you join the club if you dont really like tomboys or feminists and not agree with what they think. or did you just join to argue with us and say that WE are wrong..? then why do you think that women 'shouldnt' if they can? is it wrong for them? cant they act like themselves, how they want? |
| I get angry when I hear about almost all the said things, but a while ago my mom said something that made me really pissed. Ò_Ó We should watch a movie in the cinemas and I was sitting like a always do (like a boy, with my legs widely spread. My mom sat next to me, and saw how I sat. She said to me: "Don't sit like that." "Why?" I asked. Then she said: "Because girls shouldn't sit like that. It's not a good way to behave." I was so pissed I sat like that through the whole movie just too irritate her. >:D soul4soul said: Y-elf said: then why do you think that women 'shouldnt' if they can? is it wrong for them? cant they act like themselves, how they want? this is the only thing i can come up with to answer that. they shouldn't b/c guys need to 'help' girls its a way for them to 'show off' and get there attention and try to get girls to like them. just the same as women who need to help out with things that require a more gentle touch. things that guys 'cant' do i hope that makes sense Have you never thought about what the girls themselfes want? Maybe they don't want to be helped, cause it obstruct their self-esteem. |
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| the one thing i hate is when guys say you can do it because youre a girl. im always like AAARRRGH i wanna pull out your hair! and also when teachers say i want a strong person to carry this and they end up only choosing guys.; like what the heck? girls are strong too you know.. and how people always say girls are supposed to do the cooking, cleaning, all that home economics crap but ill just say it straight out. i suck at ALL those things. |
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| I hate when people say that tomboys are annoying. I mean seriously, they just can't deal with the fact that they can do most of the things that they can't even work up the courage to do. I also hate how they berate them and tell them that guys are better than girls (And I'm a guy). Now I'm a guy, but I'm making a defense for those girls because I believe that guys and girls can perform on equal levels. |
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| If you want to make me REALLY angry, just say something about what is "proper" behaviour for genders and talk about things that girls can't do, just because they're girls. My MOM said this one thing the other day... I finished painting my shelf and it had dryed, so I wanted to hang it on the wall. We did have a drill, but i didn't know how to use it. So I asked my mom. She wondered why couldn't I get my dad to do it and I answered that I wanted to learn to do it my self, so that when i move out, I wouldn't be in trouble. Mom: " Hey, don't worry! By the time you move out, you'll propably have a boyfriend who can do it for you." I stood there for a second, propably having a terrible wince on my face. I: "You mean, that because I'm a girl, I don't have to learn, just let a man do it for me?" I have a pretty good relationship with my mom, but this is the topic we often argue about: Gender roles. She says that women can of course do what they want, but men have to manly. I'm a feminist, but I'm not that kind that thinks women are better than men. I prefer equality between genders. |
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| There are lot of sexist things that really "ruffle my feathers". 1. Women belong solely n the kitchen - Um, no. I don't think so. Maybe in the 1700's that was the norm, but not anymore. Lets catch up to the 21st Century people. 2. A woman shouldn't do a what's considered a "man's" job. - Bullshit (excuse my French). My father and mother raised me to do all sorts of work in and outside of my home from construction, taking care of the lawn, cleaning, cooking, shoveling, digging holes, gardening, etc. Anything my male relatives/friends/colleagues can do, I sure as hell can do too and that goes the same for just about any profession. 3. Girls shouldn't play sports. - Psh, yeah okay. Listen buddy, girls can hit or kick a ball just as good as you. Doesn't take that much effort. And this last one is from an educational point of view. 4. Males are better at Science and Math than females. - Tell that to all my female friends that scored higher on tests, labs, and assignments than my male friends who took the exact same class with the exact same teacher. Really what hinders females from doing well in these two subjects is a teacher's prior mentality that SS and English is for females and Math and Science are for males, so therefore they aim the latter two subjects for the boys in their class more than the girls. |
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| I figured i should post too... Well the kitchen thing is over commented and i must say I totally agree with that. Another thing is the sports section, where boys consider them selfs the <best>. When I used to take part in the PE classes i had one activity I really liked. We were supposed to throw a kinda heavy ball as far as we could. I was the 13th in the row and just before me a guy was commenting like <I'll through really far.. because I am a boy.> He did through further than the girls before but i threw further than him. ^^" He didn't say a thing after but neither did I (my classmates did the commenting ><) Oh! Another thought popped in my mind now. Girls shouldn't pick fights with boy. I wonder why, coz many girls are capable of beating guys ^^" i mean i know one girl who beats the hell out of whoever annoys her. And I too had to dead with some perverted idiots who just lurk around in the night. i can;t say i beat them but one punch ore something so they left even faster than they came... It is said that girls are more intelligent than boys but boys posses more power than girl. But it can be the other way around or some girls can be both intelligent and can beat the hell out of you ^^" |
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| I think tomboys in Animes are cute, real tomboys are interesting that's why I joined the club, But when it comes to the right thing to do I think a woman should not act like a man. "2. A woman shouldn't do a what's considered a "man's" job." She can play sports, be scientist (I think they are actually better at science), but things like military and craftwork is no woman thing no matter what. |
DeathDoll said: @Janne but why do you consider this? i mean like some boy aren't good at something like a <man's job> some girls could be. So why not? (mom did military) I agree. In some instances a woman is better at doing a "man's" job than the man himself. My boyfriend's older sister is in the Navy and I've met a lot of my boyfriend's friends (he's the Navy too) who are female and are in the military as well. They're all tough and can handle anything that the guys are put through but they're still girls. It's not like being in the military changes them into men. |
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| @ ivorykeys I didn't say military changes them into men. But what if a man does..hmm... Let's say helps in the house, does the laundry , does the dishes and so on all the time. Does that mean he's a woman? i mean it's just the same. guys can do women's work so why not the other way around? if they can handle |
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DeathDoll said: @ ivorykeys I didn't say military changes them into men. But what if a man does..hmm... Let's say helps in the house, does the laundry , does the dishes and so on all the time. Does that mean he's a woman? i mean it's just the same. guys can do women's work so why not the other way around? if they can handle Lol I know that's not what you meant. It was just my own opinion and thoughts. |
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| Even if it's a dead topic I couldn't help but reply, I just wanted to say that I love you guys(no, I'm not gay) and I hate stereotypes too, I'm a very sensible person yet I have a really strong personality but in spite of that I've been called gay lots times now and it's very iritating, I'm like: What? Can't a man be sensitive anymore without being called gay????What's that for bulls***? I really hate this world, I mean everyone is doing their hardest at making men and wome more diffrent. Yes, I do agree that women are less strong than men but the big problem is that instead of making facilities for making women stronger so everything will be equal they made army for men so the diffrence will be even bigger? It's like when you are bad at one subject in school and you go like: I wasn't created for this, I'l just let someone else do that for me. No! You study even harder that subject so you'l get better grades! I've heard that some guys(that goes even for you girls) here had problem with their mom, I know what it feels like, a long time ago my mom told me that men are sex machines (no, I'm not kidding) and I was outraged, I just wanted to climb on the walls and scream but I guess that wouldn't be that civilized. |
QuirkyIceHeart said: ~Replies to dead topic~ I hate it when either gender is looked at as a sex object, or otherwise any sort of stereotype. If you look at a person and think of 'girl', then assume things and such, then it's wrong. You should always know the person as an individual, not just 'the other gender'. Or when people want a 'good girlfriend', and just want something to fill that role, rather than really loving someone. Also, I know it sounds weird, but I dislike when people assume that girls don't have an interest in pursuing anything, a partner, a job, or whatever. Like, I knew this boy once who was shocked to find explicit anime guy pictures online. He assumed that was for gay guys, without ever CONSIDERING that sex wasn't just for men. Like... what, so you just find a girl willing to pleasure YOU? Also, with strength things, just look at the strength of the individual. I've known plenty of girls who are stronger than plenty of guys. Though really, it doesn't matter so much. I take issue with those who act like it matters. When people think that somehow a girl cares less if her partner is mean to her. That a girl has no meaning without a guy. That every girl is just sitting there BEGGING for a guy to pick her up. Any guy, as long as there's no huge issue with him, without having her own love preferences. And that they don't have to spark the girl's interest, just their own in her. And yes, all of those, in high school, not imagined. >.> I happen to be pansexual, so I run into other attitudes, but these ones apply to most girls ^ And I have JUST as much issue with guy stereotyping and the bias toward them, but that's off topic... axy_david said: I've heard that some guys(that goes even for you girls) here had problem with their mom, I know what it feels like, a long time ago my mom told me that men are sex machines (no, I'm not kidding) and I was outraged, I just wanted to climb on the walls and scream but I guess that wouldn't be that civilized. I agree with your post, and that's awful. It's good you saw that it was wrong. ^^ I still see girls as princesses who are waiting for their prince, that won't change but ofc that I don't see the feminists one as well. |
Michi-chan said: I get angry when I hear about almost all the said things, but a while ago my mom said something that made me really pissed. Ò_Ó We should watch a movie in the cinemas and I was sitting like a always do (like a boy, with my legs widely spread. My mom sat next to me, and saw how I sat. She said to me: "Don't sit like that." "Why?" I asked. Then she said: "Because girls shouldn't sit like that. It's not a good way to behave." I was so pissed I sat like that through the whole movie just too irritate her. >:D LMFAO. I sit like that all the time. My girl friends just laugh and say I sit like a guy. XD Then, I'm just like "Ehhh...whatever". Hmmm...what ruffles my feathers? Well, when people gloss over certain issues like rape and domestic abuse really easily. I hate the subjugation and objectification of women. The waterworks just annoy me. Another touchy subject is how some women develop a terrible case of Stockholm Syndrome after being abused for so long. I get really angry and sad when that happens. WorldWide said: Real feminists are those who know how to balance gender equality with the recognition that women need their rights to be recognized. Your emphasis on "REAL" feminists seems to me to be more of the hard-core extremists type. A real feminist wouldn't see women as better than men. I do agree that men unfortunately are confined in the man box, a place where they are given the roles to be aggressive, crude, and angry people. Men have their own share of sexist problems.But besides patriarchal jocks, REAL feminists (women are better then men) tick me off as well. Of course I see where some may be coming from when they're real feminists, since men have had a history of doing so many horrible things to women that women deserve to be on the top for a while, but I still oppose it. In the end, REAL gender equality would mean that there's no distinction between the two, the destruction of the female ego and the male ego, we're all people and that's the end of it. |
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