Fate/Zero Episode 10 Discussion
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They should have stick closer to the novels, instead of the adventures of Super Loli Rin saving the day (you know, what happened to have a horrible mental breakdown after finding out the remains of children that she had to suppress her memories from it as it DID happen).
Aoi, Tokiomi, Kariya and Kotomine saved this trash from 1/5, it's 3/5 thanks to them.
Also, I really like that dialogue between Kariya and that woman who's supposed to be Rin's guardian at the time.
LOL best way to describe Aoi, nobody can tell she's a mother for being fucking terrible at her job.
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Probably the weakest episode so far, but still good. I was kind of hoping it would have more of Tokiomi.
I was expecting Tokiomi to rescue Rin, which while a little bit on the deus ex machina (not exactly the phrase I"m looking for but it fits the general idea) side would have been a little more realistic.
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So good. Oh, how I've missed you Rin.
But I'll admit Rin owning Ryuunosuke was a bit lame, yeah right she can do that.
Next episode, some Rider yay.
3 epi left, i guess no servants (or master) will die (or eliminated) off this war?
which makes the next season even more exciting
I haven't read the novel so this isn't a spoiler but I'm sure at least one will die. I'm guessing it'd be Caster's master. Probably by Emiya and probably will involve Rider. Caster just has to be eliminated before next half.
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I haven't read VN whatever it is, but I do like seeing Rin again and they show her past self.
After I have seen this anime so far, this episode feel kind of different from what happend in these past episodes, maybe we don't need a Rin at all but still I'm happy to see her again.
I'm happy that Rin saved her friends.
Good ending, school & her smile face. :D
This has nothing to do with that. The LN chapter is focused on her failure and meddling, a lesson of humility. She should have gotten owned and rescued because she was incredibly stupid to venture into the night. There would not be a "happy ending". The episode should have mentally scarred her, not validating her sheer stupidity. She's about 6 or so, no way she could beat a serial killer who makes furniture and musical instruments out of children. Sorry.
If they are changing stuff for a "happy ending" now, people are going to be very cautious for the things to come.
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Well I don't know about you all but should you not praise Rin for the following,
after all she saved kids! She is hero! It's not just the MOE, it's about saving lives!
It's also about the following,
add to that the moment in the spoiler
Rin you are a hero and my respect went for you over 9000! I really will respect her and understand her strong feelings of protecting people more than before TBH with this episode.
BTW I put the rest of these GIFs in the club,
Guess Rin got me moving around my ass to make them.
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ufotable did a really good job until now and i really doubt they gave rin so much screentime because of her fans...
They actually "Did it".
Read Thess's Comment again about "what really happened" in the Light Novel.
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Haven't read the LN, but I did read the Fate/Stay Night VN and one of the things going on between Rin and Shiro
is that she is impressed by how he can keep it cool when all their classmates faces are melting inside Rider's blood fort. The VN explains that's because Shiro had all that bad past trauma and was used to "dead bodies" while she wasn't.
It was implied that she suppressed the memory of this episode it was too horrible for her to handle it (the terror she experienced) and that she could not see anything in the dark, but she imagined it what was that. She's a kid. I wish they would have made Uryuu give her a beating of her life, instead (since he was also inserted here and killed all the threat from the upcoming episodes when a little girl 'defeats him') to make a point that this Holy Grail War isn't a child's business.
The way this was adapted was completely against the mood of the series. Rin was meant to be another helpless victim, not a heroine. If they were going to add scenes about it, then get some in the mood of the story.
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Worst episode of the season, but still a good one. I'd like to think that this ep was also made to show how Tokiomi was not necessarily a bad father to Rin. Also, people complaining about how this was a filler episode: It was pretty obvious in last week's preview. Even the title was a giveaway.
BUT FOR SRS. Ufotable makes the best sceneries/backdrops. They've got that really eerie feel to them.
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sallym613 said:I understand but understand that after the shitty ass murdering shit that Uryuu did to kids, sheer justice with a4 hammer have been delivered of those dead kids by Rin. It is to say the least a homage to avenging those kids.
@ Yumekichi: I have nothing against Rin trying to save her classmate and the kids (even though its foolish, it was really brave of her regardless) but I feel like Rin's complete success with owning Ryuunosuke and getting the kids out of there alive without Ryuunosuke getting an opportunity to retaliate...just doesn't sit too well with me. Especially since Fate/Zero has made a strong impression on me of having an overall dark, serious mood...where things don't usually go well or happen on a happy tone.
Rin owning a despicable criminal was awesome..by itself. However, not within the context of Fate/Zero.
That being said MOE does not really belong in this series except seldom inserted. Now this episode concentrated half MOE half serious with Berseker's Master being the final punch in this episode.
BTW is it me or Berserker's Master can control the locust swarm?
Except something doesn’t sit well with me....how did he gain control of it?
What can it do?
Can it be killed?
Totally or partially and regenerates? Thanks to anyone who knows of this.
Point being that despite them changing things, glorifying Rin is good IMO.