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Dec 1, 2011 8:54 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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An idol girl. Her song is the OP this ep.! "True Story" by Rie Kugimiya? She quitted idol work and transferring to the same school. Glasses for camouflage, and the guy followed her to return her cellphone. She's doing the part-time in tofu shop.

She's the next victim?

Police uncle is suspecting of the guys for knowing about the case.

They found a suspicious otaku guy following idol girl and caught him.

Idol girl ripping off magazine with her photos and saying they don't know the real her.

Manager doesn't want her quit her idol job. "Manami"??

Police uncle doesn't want the guy to involve.

Saving the idol girl next ep.
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Dec 1, 2011 9:13 AM

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Once I saw those two twintails I wet my pants, lol. Also, those "RISECHII" chants..
Now that Rise has been introduced, I think Chie is still the best "looking" so far in the anime, second would be Rise(although she looks a bit older) and I still can't get behind Yukiko's animation..

I expected some type of singing like that in this episode, due to Rie Kugimiya and Rise's obvious Idol role. Didn't like it as much as the original OP, but nice touch for a Rise arc start.

ROFL @ Stalker Yuu, lmao....At first, I thought it was Naoto..Which looks like they cut out...

That whole Yosuke/Chie skirt scene had me rolling.....JIRAIYA!!! lmao.

Dojima's suspicious/pissed off face is incredibly hilarious to me..

I desperately await Aika's social link in future episodes, if she has one..

I f'en LOL'd @ the "all out" attack on Risette's stalker, lmao. This show is too damn funny...

Yu can basically make paper cranes out of nowhere/anything~

And - The first "Narukami-senpai" of the season.. I wonder how many "SENPAI!" awaits us...Honestly, kinda weird to hear "Narukami-senpai" and not just "Senpai"...

No Lover's Arcana, so they could be doing it how it is in the game...Which means star arcana first.. Hope Yu was recording the Mid-Night channel...

And now, my favorite Shadow/Dungeon awaits next episode...blah, the long wait...Also looked like Yu had a bit more expression this episode..Or it probably was just the last episode that threw me off with all his emotionless stares, lol... Thought the pacing was good for how much things Rise's arc had, made it all fit nicely, IMO. So even with the slight changes, I enjoyed this episode, probably the "better" introduction between her and Kanji, since Kanji's was kinda rushed and less serious, looking back now - I felt it should have been taken a bit more seriously...

Need subs.
 
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Dec 1, 2011 9:36 AM

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Ughhhhhhhhhh.... Kugimiya Rie...

Aside from that, good episode. Looking forward to Rise's shadow... will they change it?

4/5
 
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Dec 1, 2011 1:03 PM

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I havent played the game but that detective is way to suspicious. So i guess Amagi and Rise both like Yuu.
 
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Dec 1, 2011 1:38 PM

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I've been waiting for this episode and boy did I enjoy it. Aside from Rise being my favorite girl, what I liked about this episode is how they actually had Rise and Yu spend some time together (paper cranes man), and they even showed a bit of her S.Link, before she was even kidnapped! They gave Rise a reason to fall in love, unlike the game where Rise pretty much just falls heads over heels for Narukami immediately after she's rescued...just because he's the protagonist.
 
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Dec 1, 2011 1:40 PM

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It was another interesting episode to watch with the new character Rise introduced. (it felt like Kujikawa Rise was a personification of Kugimiya Rie. Note the similarity of their names as well as their flat-chestedness... :P)

On the other hand, it was quite disappointing to find out that the animation quality from AIC studio has been frankly quite terrible in this particular episode. During conversation scenes between the main characters, some character's faces were completely motionless for like 30 secs even without a blink of eyes and their lips often didn't sync right with their lines. I wonder what kind of third-party company is AIC outsouring the douga department from? :S

 
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Dec 1, 2011 2:21 PM
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Yep, it was another interesting episode... I'm looking forward to the next one to see some more info...
 
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Dec 1, 2011 2:55 PM

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Another new character. Enjoyable to watch still; the anime doesn't really explain personas though.

4/5
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Dec 1, 2011 3:04 PM

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another Kugimiya's role! I wonder if she can hold many play this year.
Overall, this episode was nice and I'll give the score 4.5/5
 
Dec 1, 2011 3:44 PM

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I hope I'm not the only one who laughed at this:
http://i41.tinypic.com/14t0y13.jpg
Subtitles fit so well together with the scene....

I have to say, the Rise/Yu scene at school when he grabbed her hand, was pretty sweet. I still prefer the 3 Kouhai's together though, lol. Yu's "You suck" with that expressionless face - was hilarious.

Solkiskey said:
Aside from that, good episode. Looking forward to Rise's shadow... will they change it?


I don't think they would change it..I mean, Kanji's shadow would have been changed, since it's kinda the same as Rise's but a "homosexual" form, and kinda offensive. Rise's shadow is just...well.."provocative"..

stevewiess01 said:
On the other hand, it was quite disappointing to find out that the animation quality from AIC studio has been frankly quite terrible in this particular episode. During conversation scenes between the main characters, some character's faces were completely motionless for like 30 secs even without a blink of eyes and their lips often didn't sync right with their lines.:S

I have to agree. Beginning of the episode was alright, somehow, during the middle it got really terrible and crashed....
 
Dec 1, 2011 4:24 PM

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Wow. Rise's got a Clark Kent proof disguise right there. Pop on some glasses and you're totally a different person. Also, I think I like this Rise more than the game Rise. Although her voice will definitely annoy me.
Anywho, nice ep. Can't wait to see Rise's dungeon. It'll probably get censored to a certain extent too.
 
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I had to wait a while to see it, but it was honestly worth the wait!

Rise Kujikawa + Rie Kugimya = AMAZING. She does a fantastic job with Rise here. She was great in the Japanese version of the game, even better in the anime! I like this role for her better than any of her 'Four Tsundere Wonders' roles, and that's saying something. I just thought I'd get that out of the way first.

A really nice setup episode. The OP change kind of took me by surprise, but it was a welcome change. I loved how Yousuke was constantly fangasming over Rise, and the ensuing hilarity over Chie's legs (Jiraiya!). Adachi does a really good job of mostly being useless. Dojima, on the other hand, plays his hard-ass role to the hilt. I loved Yukiko's reference to Chie as a 'Chie Pet'. The 'All-Out Attack' by Chie, Yosuke, and Kanji against the paparazzi guy was unexpected, but really awesome. Aika was amazing as usual, I can't wait for her future appearances.
Also, Yu can make cranes out of just about anything! Also, poor Rise, I wanted to hug her at the end. HNNNNNNNNNGGGGHHH... T_T

The only thing that really bothered me: animation quality took a huge hit in this episode. Seems like they do a worse job in the real world as opposed to the TV (Shadow) World. I mean, I realize this isn't a big-budget anime to begin with, but there's no excuse for the inconsistency. ASTA needs to pay these people and get it cleaned up, or at least be a bit more consistent between the two worlds. Pacing was pretty good this episode. 4.5/5.

Next week is Rise's Shadow Dungeon! Oh wow! Next week can't come soon enough for me!
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Dec 1, 2011 5:31 PM

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P4 is so funny!
 
Dec 1, 2011 5:41 PM

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...she's not flat-chested...
 
Dec 1, 2011 6:00 PM

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lol
Man I love Narukami's sense of humor lol
I can't wait for the next episode!! XD
I love the song for Rise's bar dungeon!!!
 
Dec 1, 2011 6:09 PM

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I hope I'm not the only one who laughed at this:
http://i41.tinypic.com/14t0y13.jpg
Subtitles fit so well together with the scene....

I have to say, the Rise/Yu scene at school when he grabbed her hand, was pretty sweet. I still prefer the 3 Kouhai's together though, lol. Yu's "You suck" with that expressionless face - was hilarious.

Solkiskey said:
Aside from that, good episode. Looking forward to Rise's shadow... will they change it?


I don't think they would change it..I mean, Kanji's shadow would have been changed, since it's kinda the same as Rise's but a "homosexual" form, and kinda offensive. Rise's shadow is just...well.."provocative"..

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On the other hand, it was quite disappointing to find out that the animation quality from AIC studio has been frankly quite terrible in this particular episode. During conversation scenes between the main characters, some character's faces were completely motionless for like 30 secs even without a blink of eyes and their lips often didn't sync right with their lines.:S

I have to agree. Beginning of the episode was alright, somehow, during the middle it got really terrible and crashed....


But she shoots out stuff from her V!
 
Dec 1, 2011 6:35 PM

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Notice how unanimated these guys are in the scene they sit at Junes discussing stuff on rainy day, they only "activate" when they speak. Kanji is drawn especially poorly through this episodes, at some point I might even include him into the 4chan meme faces pantheon.
Poor Kugimiya, probably her 1st major not tsundere role after so many trashy ones. It wont convince anyone. Well, poor luck there.
 
Dec 1, 2011 6:45 PM

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Fuck yeah Rise is my fav girl and this episode was really good! AIC doing Rise justice! (but they better fix the animation on the BDs)
 
Dec 1, 2011 7:09 PM

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Solkiskey said:
But she shoots out stuff from her V!


 
Dec 1, 2011 7:11 PM

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Solkiskey said:


stevewiess01 said:
On the other hand, it was quite disappointing to find out that the animation quality from AIC studio has been frankly quite terrible in this particular episode. During conversation scenes between the main characters, some character's faces were completely motionless for like 30 secs even without a blink of eyes and their lips often didn't sync right with their lines.:S


I have to agree. Beginning of the episode was alright, somehow, during the middle it got really terrible and crashed....


Meh, the animation wasn't that bad. I actually thought it was an improvement on previous episodes - the fact that characters don't blink for awhile isn't atrocious. I get the feeling that just because we were told early on in the project that there was a falling out over salaries between the artists and management, people began to start looking for flaws in the animation. If we didn't know, most people, I would guess, would forget about these relatively minor issues, as they would not have been so heavily highlighted.

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Kanji is drawn especially poorly through this episodes, at some point I might even include him into the 4chan meme faces pantheon.


Haha I have to agree there - in episode eight his face was constantly being fucked around with.

On a brighter note - this episode was great! The opening song being replaced was nice for a change, and the pacing was great considering the content got through. The first meeting of Yu and Rise was predictable - guy wearing a school uniform following her *remembers episode 6 where Yu picks something up Kanji drops on the floor* - oh right, it has to be him trailing her for a similar reason.

Yu: "You suck" to Rise was fantastic, as was the pervy moment with Yosouke and Chie. Adachi's role in this was abit random, but I guess they had to squeeze him in. He's a bigger fool in the anime than in the game! He didn't even seem aware that Rise may be being targeted unlike in the game where he so subtly says "we're waiting for you, you bastard" outside the Tofu shop. He also slipped way to much out about being ordered to follow Yu and co. Adachi is dumb, but not THAT dumb! Also - where was the cabbage in that meal he ordered >.< !!! (overly unnecessarily grandiose fanboi reaction)

Episode - 5/5 :D can't wait for the next one.
 
Dec 1, 2011 7:13 PM

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This OP... was unexpected o_O
An idol dancing... doesn't really go with Person 4's mood
Oh well, I don't mind that much XD

And the 2 ads by Rise... Awkward
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Meh, the animation wasn't that bad. I actually thought it was an improvement on previous episodes - the fact that characters don't blink for awhile isn't atrocious. I get the feeling that just because we were told early on in the project that there was a falling out over salaries between the artists and management, people began to start looking for flaws in the animation. If we didn't know, most people, I would guess, would forget about these relatively minor issues, as they would not have been so heavily highlighted.


Hmm, I thought episode's 8 animation was the best so far. I dunno about that, people are always picking out flaws in animes. I don't necessarily point it out all the time, cause I wanna enjoy Persona 4 to the fullest. There's just some quite "noticeable" animation faults.

I honestly don't really care as long as the story/character interactions stays the same though.
 
Dec 1, 2011 7:37 PM

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RISE RISE RISE RISE RISE RISE RISE
RISE OPENING OMFG IT'S SO AWESOME
RISE RISE RRRRIIIISSSSEEEEE HHHNNNGNGNGNH

Keep being this awesome, P4. Please.
 
Dec 1, 2011 8:02 PM

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*Charlie*Gets all the ladies with his Origami skills,on to the episode i see alot of Rise fans here lol which is cool because how can you not like her?!.
good episode is good~.
 
Dec 1, 2011 8:04 PM

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I'm glad Rie Kugimiya didn't use her loli voice. Otherwise, it would be so annoying.
 
Dec 1, 2011 8:15 PM

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LOVED THE ALTERNATE INTRO XD
 
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teh2ndrunner said:

Meh, the animation wasn't that bad. I actually thought it was an improvement on previous episodes - the fact that characters don't blink for awhile isn't atrocious. I get the feeling that just because we were told early on in the project that there was a falling out over salaries between the artists and management, people began to start looking for flaws in the animation. If we didn't know, most people, I would guess, would forget about these relatively minor issues, as they would not have been so heavily highlighted.

I don't really care about the studio's salary problem or what not, and it certainly wasn't influencing how the animation looked to me. Just watch from the 06:58 to 08:03.. It just alternates between two views over and over gain, while the lips (which is the only thing moving in the picutre) isn't even syncing with the character's lines. That was one of the most boring one minute I had to endure..

I usually don't complain about low-budget animations when they're handled correctly, but this particular episode stood out in a pretty bad way...

 
Dec 1, 2011 8:49 PM

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Rise is a great character but nowadays there is always an idol character in an anime o_o.

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Uwahh... T___T poor Rise... I was sort of surprised how low her voice is compared to the game. I always found Kugimiya's Rise in the game was still rather high-pitched compared to the anime's Rise, but I like it a lot better this way. Narukami-kun... normally when someone drops their cellphone, you should speak up... instead of stalking the person =.='...

The animation didn't really bother me too much... I usually only notice those type of flaws when I rewatch it. I'm usually too engrossed in the story unless it is blatantly ugly.
 
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greenmush said:
Rise is a great character but nowadays there is always an idol character in an anime o_o.

Macross SDF and even Kon Satoshi's "Perfect Blue" had an idol girl in it in the past, though there certainly seems to be a recent idol boom in the anime industry with AKB48 coming out soon as an animation. XD

 
Dec 1, 2011 9:08 PM

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LMFAO they made the stalker look exactly like king moron, whaaaaat?
 
Dec 1, 2011 9:26 PM

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Narukami such a smooth playa. He gets all the bitches. The OP was pretty lulzy too. Here's hoping they keep stripper shadow in all its glory.
 
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I liked this episode curious if Narukami will ever get a job like the game other then that everything seems there don't remember the father looking so suspicious tho..
4/5
 
Dec 1, 2011 11:29 PM

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Di-chan said:
The worst episode so far...Not plot. But animation. They continue to show same static picture way too long. Check moment in Junes where YousukeChieKanj were talking =_=
You know what i noticed alot of static pictures this episode but going back and looking at that scene that's crazy how little movement there was lol but hey every anime has there ups and downs.
 
Dec 1, 2011 11:31 PM

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I think the new OP is only for this episode. Good episode plot wise.
 
Dec 1, 2011 11:59 PM

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Average episode, I think. :| Although there was some funny moments like group attack on the stalker - it really made me laugh. And yea, I think too that 8th episode was the funniest so far. Overall, little has happened.
Geez, I can't wait! The next ep will be finally Lovers Arcana. I wonder how her dungeon will look in the anime version. And the Star Arcana will come too.
 
Dec 2, 2011 12:11 AM

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Not really a Rise fan so wasn't really expecting much. Have to say, though, the epsiode was great. I enjoyed it quite a bit, anyway. They did a pretty good job at handling Rise and her situation.

Only thing I really didn't like was Rise's song, which was hideous.
 
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Rise is finally here, woohoo

Lmao, Kanji xD
"That hit the spot."
Half a second later,
"You bastard!"
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"In our own lives, we're not the readers. We're the writers. We're able to...change the ending, aren't we?" - Gintoki Sakata
 
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I hope I'm not the only one who laughed at this:
http://i41.tinypic.com/14t0y13.jpg
Subtitles fit so well together with the scene....

Haha, I took a screenshot of the exact same thing xP

Anyway, I agree that the animation quality was off, but I liked the storytelling in this episode. The move of a good chunk of the stuff from Rise's SLink to before her shadow works better than the game, I think. I always found the party member SLinks awkward because of the way they seemed to jump back a little and forget whatever revelation they made because of their shadows.
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Ahh, refreshing to hear Rie Kugimiya do a non-tsundere role. Last anime I watched her not do a tsundere was FMA: Brotherhood...

Your epic disguise after claiming a hiatus is...glasses...? What.

What the fuck happened to the animation during the Investigation Team's discussion? It was like watching a still image but they made their lips flap.

LOLWHAT? Yu really has no sense of cues and whatnot.

Lol, stalking to find a stalker. Aika appears again out of nowhere. Just as emotionless as Yu as ever, haha.

BAAHAHAHHA, that quick, but nonetheless lulzy, "You suck," by Yu was hilarious. They seem like a strong pairing already. Hand-holding on the second day and Rise hiding behind Yu. Hmm.

Guess next episode is the conclusion. Yay, new card for the ED then.
 
Dec 2, 2011 4:36 AM

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the real culprit's face make me want to punch my screen...
 
Dec 2, 2011 5:17 AM

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YES! We finally get to see Rise! Yahoo! XD
 
Dec 2, 2011 5:48 AM

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bonifide said:
I havent played the game but that detective is way to suspicious. So i guess Amagi and Rise both like Yuu.


Suspicions that he is the Kira went up to 25%

 
Dec 2, 2011 6:29 AM
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Finally Risette is there! I have waited for her appearance since she's one of my favorites. With her the show is a lot better now ^^
 
Dec 2, 2011 8:00 AM

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RISE CHAN !!
 
Dec 2, 2011 8:11 AM
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Taigaaa!!!... Oh no.. it's Rise! :D
 
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Meomix said:
bonifide said:
I havent played the game but that detective is way to suspicious. So i guess Amagi and Rise both like Yuu.


Suspicions that he is the Kira went up to 25%


Wait which detective are you talking about - Dojima or Adachi? If I had to suspect one it would be Dojima given his unusual anger at the MC for interfering. Adachi is just too stupid lol.

I'd say it's impossible to make an educated guess as to who is kidnapping them all. No one really stands out as suspicious to me.
 
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The conversations in the show are always the best. Yukiko is always in her own little world.

Lol'd at Yu asking if the other two guys are the killers after the girls pointed out how suspicious they are stalking Rise.
 
Dec 2, 2011 10:56 AM

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great!!!
 
Dec 2, 2011 11:54 AM

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They screwed up the soda ad!!! D:

U-..... -SODAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!



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