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Nov 6, 2011 3:07 PM

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I've noticed this especially with Clannad and Spice and Wolf, and in a couple other anime as well that i can't think of off the the top of my head.



Now don't get me wrong i love both of these series dearly (probably why these problems bother me in the first place) and i can understand why this topic is debatable in spice and wolf, but i find it ridiculous that there wasn't one in clannad. I was just wondering why the producers or whoever makes these type of calls decide to do this. Is it something that has to do with the anime industry. Or maybe it's something that has to with Japanese views on relationships (i know that the Japanese believe privacy to be very important when it comes to intimacy)
 
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Nov 6, 2011 3:15 PM

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It's Japanese's views on relationship. Unlike in the west, Kissing is seen as a huge thing. I think someone told me that public kissing equate to a form of oral sex? I laughed when he told me that, but I know it's hugely embarrasing.
 
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The creators want the protagonist to stay somewhat neutral! It's like that in MOST cases.
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i feel the same way with clannad! i was just waiting for the kiss that never came! and i think they do it on purpose to keep us on our feet :o
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I think there are more male runs into a female naked scenes than kiss scenes.
 
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SLUT.
 
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I want to make a counterexample comment, but even though I could put it in spoilers, one would be able to easily predict the spoiler...
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Japanese sexual etiquette is a walking paradox public kissing is a no no but fan service panty shot's of loli's tripping on a public street are acceptable haha. But i feel that japanese culture is not a strong enough argument, you see plenty of anime with kissing scenes. on top of that, if said couple are to kiss in a private setting i don't understand how that would conflict with Japanese ideals.
 
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SLUT.


What a shocking, naked, raw depiction of the breakdown of moral values. Somebody call Ishihara, we simply cannot let this go on any longer.
 
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i feel the same way with clannad! i was just waiting for the kiss that never came! and i think they do it on purpose to keep us on our feet :o


Clannad is the anime equivalent of blue balls
 
Nov 6, 2011 7:33 PM

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I've noticed this especially with Clannad and Spice and Wolf, and in a couple other anime as well that i can't think of off the the top of my head.


There's a kiss in spice and wolf, even though its pretty crappy.

Now don't get me wrong i love both of these series dearly (probably why these problems bother me in the first place) and i can understand why this topic is debatable in spice and wolf, but i find it ridiculous that there wasn't one in clannad. I was just wondering why the producers or whoever makes these type of calls decide to do this. Is it something that has to do with the anime industry. Or maybe it's something that has to with Japanese views on relationships (i know that the Japanese believe privacy to be very important when it comes to intimacy)
 
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I lol'ed ^_^

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Nov 6, 2011 10:12 PM

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I don't see why kissing is such a big deal, especially in anime like Clannad where you know right off the bat how much they care for eachother.
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Nov 6, 2011 10:13 PM
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in the games even before the after story game there aisohion that they kiss

but in the anime i thnk is the fact that there nowhere near the age that kissing in a public place its not the kissing that is looked down upon its what i could lead to is they get to in to it

under age sex is more lookied gown upon in asia[not only japan] than it is in the west as ideals dictate the sensible age even thing about having Kids in most east asian nationas in 22 [ 20 your an adult 2 years to get your life in check before family planning ]
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Nov 6, 2011 10:20 PM

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Kanon has a kiss

and it's the same studio, produced only one year earlier than Clannad.
 
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Nov 6, 2011 10:58 PM

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They kiss in spice and wolf, in season 2 anyways, but it's fucking terrible and can easily be missed. Probably the most limp wristed kiss in anime ever.

Kisses in Romance anime are pretty unsatisfying in general, they always feel souless and lack any sort of passion. Kinda like the kiss you give your grandmother or some thing.
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Nov 6, 2011 11:19 PM

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Kissing in anime doesn't happen much for the same reason kissing in TV shows rarely happens. When the characters/actors are kissing they aren't talking or moving the plot. For a romance heavy series a kiss is meaningful thing that doesn't happen just because it can but because the anticipation for it has been created.

 
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Anime need more underage incest kissing like Shakugan no Shana.
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It's Japanese's views on relationship. Unlike in the west, Kissing is seen as a huge thing. I think someone told me that public kissing equate to a form of oral sex? I laughed when he told me that, but I know it's hugely embarrasing.
I have a hard time believing they're a bunch of oriental Amish when the stuff they aim at kids has tits galore. Also, the staple of many a harem is the main guy accidentally falling on some chick and grabbing her breasts to cushion his fall, but the momentum causes him to French her. It's not that kissing never happens in anime, I think it's just that the OP thinks all the meaningful signs of affection are ignored while cheap jokes run rampant.
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Ammish said:
It's Japanese's views on relationship. Unlike in the west, Kissing is seen as a huge thing. I think someone told me that public kissing equate to a form of oral sex? I laughed when he told me that, but I know it's hugely embarrasing.
I have a hard time believing they're a bunch of oriental Amish when the stuff they aim at kids has tits galore.


Females have breasts. So eventually if one were to draw a female, tits have to be part of the equation. You'd have to prove what "aim at kids" means because just saying kids could mean anything from age 7 to 107.

 
Nov 6, 2011 11:56 PM

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for Spice and Wolf specifically, it's obvious, why would they have the two characters that we love kissing? it's to build a climax.... duh

and for Clannad, they're ugly, no one wants to kiss people with big heads and eyes
 
Nov 7, 2011 1:05 AM

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I swear to god they kissed on the last episode of Clannad in the school...
 
Nov 7, 2011 1:18 AM

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I've never really thought about it or noticed it. In Clannad I thought the love between the characters was well shown, but in Shakugan no Shana for example, I found myself wanting Shana to express her love to Yuji, and I think that's what the producers want, just like in Spice and Wolf where you are wanting it to happen so you continue on, and it makes space for more series.
 
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Spice and Wolf is easier to explain why.
You see Spice and Wolf is a light novel series and it has 17 volumes!
Season 1 and 2 of the anime only cover 4 of the 17 books!
So of course their isn't much kissing or anything going on yet it's still way to early in the story.

However, their will be more (If the damn guys will make a season 3) intimacy as it goes on. Now that they are a bit more open with each other with the ending finally having Lawrence reveal his feelings and what-not in season 2 it should progress fairly well.

After all they still have a lot to go off of with all the volumes! Now they just need to continue the series. (and I hope they do...)


As for Clannad it's a bit tougher to explain because it was based off of a visual novel. Now they could have added in more yes but they just probably found it un-necessary. Since after all in the game theirs really not much kissing going on or anything. They could have added more but it's their decision not ours. D:
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The kiss in spice and wolf was also a bit different because she's like a wolf, they brush noses right? cute as fuck.
 
Nov 7, 2011 3:53 AM

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Yes we all need some kissing. Like the beautiful kissing scenes in Kiss x Sis

 
Nov 7, 2011 4:03 AM

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I wanted to see Yukito and Misuzu kiss in the Air TV series, but unfortunately that didn't happen, at least the movie made up for it by having a kissing scene between Yukito and Misuzu.
 
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Kissing is too heavy for most anime in Japan, look at the CERO descriptors on games, there's a descriptor for Love as it's like a BAD thing for youth to know about.


 
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Yes we all need some kissing. Like the beautiful kissing scenes in Kiss x Sis


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Nov 7, 2011 8:56 AM

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Because the producers or whoever want fans to keep coming back to see if the characters will kiss or not.

For example: if the series had 26 episodes, but the characters kissed on the thirteenth, nobody will need or want to watch it anymore because what they wanted to happen already did, and there's no suspense anymore, unless the show ends up pulling a School days.
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Ammish said:
It's Japanese's views on relationship. Unlike in the west, Kissing is seen as a huge thing. I think someone told me that public kissing equate to a form of oral sex? I laughed when he told me that, but I know it's hugely embarrasing.

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I have a hard time believing they're a bunch of oriental Amish when the stuff they aim at kids has tits galore. Also, the staple of many a harem is the main guy accidentally falling on some chick and grabbing her breasts to cushion his fall, but the momentum causes him to French her. It's not that kissing never happens in anime, I think it's just that the OP thinks all the meaningful signs of affection are ignored while cheap jokes run rampant.


exactly. Listen, whether japanese or not, the people that create anime and manga for us are still storyteller's, and they should follow basic storytelling guidelines regardless on their nation's custom's. I am sure they're civilized enough to handle 2 animated characters who are in love kissing.
 
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exactly. Listen, whether japanese or not, the people that create anime and manga for us are still storyteller's, and they should follow basic storytelling guidelines regardless on their nation's custom's. I am sure they're civilized enough to handle 2 animated characters who are in love kissing.


Whose guidelines? What guidline says people have to kiss in public?
Japanese have their own storytelling guidelines just like Arabs, French, Italian, Russian, and Americans all have their own ways of telling a story within their culture.

 
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I've heard it's mostly surrounding Japanese culture, apparently even hugging in public isn't something you really do.

 
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Its not always needed to show kissing when there is romance.
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Whose guidelines? What guidline says people have to kiss in public?
Japanese have their own storytelling guidelines just like Arabs, French, Italian, Russian, and Americans all have their own ways of telling a story within their culture.


first of all, i never implied that people should kiss in public, nor did i imply that it is mandatory to kiss in the first place if it is not necessary or if there is some legitimate reasoning for doing so. There are basic universal methods of storytelling that cross all cultures that help the creator strengthen their story. All im saying is that sexuality (including kissing) is universal, and when creating something like, i don't know, a romance series, no matter where you come from, not showing real intimacy between characters who are in love makes no sense. Take America for example, although it is becoming more progressive, homosexuality is still seen as "taboo" or inappropriate by many americans, yet homosexuality is starting to play a significant part in our media as gay's are in many highly popular tv shows, movies etc. and the fact that they thrive in our media even though homosexuality is shunned is proof enough that it doesn't matter what the popular cultural mannerisms are.
 
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And once you're able to handle that different cultures handle things like intimacy differently and have varying degrees of progressiveness you will have your answer for this thread.

Take America for example, although it is becoming more progressive

Right in order for it to become more progressive that means America would had to have been less progressive before the time you are commenting about. Now imagine a totally different culture that's less progressive than America in certain areas but what they do works for them and you'll start to be able to lose that ethnocentric air all of your posts have.

 
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And once you're able to handle that different cultures handle things like intimacy differently and have varying degrees of progressiveness you will have your answer for this thread.

Take America for example, although it is becoming more progressive

Right in order for it to become more progressive that means America would had to have been less progressive before the time you are commenting about. Now imagine a totally different culture that's less progressive than America in certain areas but what they do works for them and you'll start to be able to lose that ethnocentric air all of your posts have.


I understand your point of view and i believe you are partially right. I also understand that obviously the main consumer are the Japanese, but anime is watched all over the world, and i believe that in time the number of anime fans across the globe will increase enough to the point where it influences the anime industry to start including consumers of other countries when they start to come up with new shows. However i don't know if this is going to be a good thing or a bad thing, there are pro's and cons on each side of the argument. Im not trying to compare America with Japan i was using america as a metaphor to show that some cultural beliefs don't have to restrict you when creating a story.

At the end of the day i still find it paradoxical that we have some anime that have few or no scenes with real human intimacy while things like fan service run rampant.
 
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At the end of the day i still find it paradoxical that we have some anime that have few or no scenes with real human intimacy while things like fan service run rampant.

There's no paradox. The two things real intimacy and fan service exist separately and don't contradict each other. In Japan it's frowned upon to openly kiss between teens that has nothing to do with watching fan service on TV at home.

 
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They save intimacy for hentai, you can watch lots of it there.
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A particularly irritating example would be Kara no Kyoukai.

 
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At the end of the day i still find it paradoxical that we have some anime that have few or no scenes with real human intimacy while things like fan service run rampant.

There's no paradox. The two things real intimacy and fan service exist separately and don't contradict each other. In Japan it's frowned upon to openly kiss between teens that has nothing to do with watching fan service on TV at home.


Once again i have to mention that i never said anything about public displays of affection. if im not mistaken if an anime were to show a couple kissing in private that should not conflict with their ideals. Besides i believe your argument is somewhat invalid because there are many anime that have kissing scenes, some even in public, and no one seems to complain about that.
 
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I sure do wonder how Mirai Nikki will be played out at around chapter
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I also wonder: will I ever see an anime with kisses and mild sex scenes? I think someone should break this chain of cliches with this either-hentai-or-ordinary-anime rule.
Give me action, profound plot, developed characters and real-life relationships between them! =_=
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I also wonder: will I ever see an anime with kisses and mild sex scenes? I think someone should break this chain of cliches with this either-hentai-or-ordinary-anime rule.
Give me action, profound plot, developed characters and real-life relationships between them! =_=


Aki-Sora and Yosuga no Sora have sex

Baby Princess has kissing with incest.

Mashiroiro Symphony has kissing and implied sex


 
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this trend is most bizarre in Clannad Afterstory... they could have at least kissed on-screen for crying out loud... at least in Kara no Kyoukai I can forgive it since Shiki does not relate to normal emotions in the conventional sense. i think we can call her and Mikiya a 'special case'.
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There are enough Kiss scenes in anime IMO. Sometimes they look so damn awkward that I'd rather see no kiss scenes.
 
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